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Color is a trick of the light and a creation of our brain.
It's actually very challenging to study color because of the complexity of it and the perception is so context -dependent.
Austin Rura is a professor of optometry and vision science at UC Berkeley, and he's likely the first person in the world to ever see a new color.
Meaning, a color that does not exist in nature and was developed entirely in a lab.
Austin and his collaborator, computer scientist Ren Eung, call this novel color Olo.
It's blue -green. It's a teal color.
But it's just more saturated than any teal you can see in the natural world.
And to make this super -saturated color, the team used a technique they call Oz.
Named after the movie, The Wizard of Oz, which, as you may remember, starts in black and white.
Until Dorothy emerges into a technicolor world.
Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.
We must be over the rainbow!
And so Oz in a way, to me, it's that effort to evoke a new sensation of color and so we go from a normal colored world to this extraordinarily colored world through direct manipulation of the self.
Was it like that for you?
Like I see the world in basic color and this is super saturated?
I would say yes. But, you know, we're not looking at this at an IMAX theater.
Our display is the size of an icon on your cell phone or it's the size of your fingernail held at arm's length.
Today on the show, Seeing Olow, how color perception works and how a swatch of color created by machines is pushing the boundaries of vision science.
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Okay, Austin and Ren, let's talk about color.
What is color, Austin?
And for those of us who can see color, how are we able to?
So humans have three types of cone photoreceptor and they're sensitive to the long, middle and short wavelengths of the visible light spectrum.
So they're called L, M, and S.
And with these three types of sensor, we can send information to the brain that will inform the brain about color.
So it's the brain that looks at the subtle differences and the excitation of those three cone types to generate a percept of the color.
So with just a mere three cone types, Humans are able to differentiate, arguably, up to ten million different hues in the visual world.
And that's really through the extensive processing that the brain does.
It's a very important part of the process.
The three types of color cells in the retina, the reason they're sensitive to these three types of different parts of the visible spectrum them, is because they're filled with photo -pignents, which are proteins, okay?
And those proteins come from our DNA, from three genes, okay?
So literally, the color vision is baked into our DNA, literally.
Are different people seeing different colors?
If all three of us here were to look at a sunflower, would the yellow of the petals look a little different, because are our cones unique to us in some way?
Absolutely. And that people see colors in the world and experience them differently, for sure.
And if you're a color blind person, that is what we call dichromatic, or hard dichromatic is missing one of those three genes completely.
Okay. And when that happens, then what is that vision like?
Actually, it's really hard to know what the experience of having another person's vision is.
It's sort of impossible, right?
And there's three types of this type of cold liners, but the most common type would be an experience, we think, that sees the world only in shades of blue and yellow.
Okay, so you don't see all the colors of the rainbow.
You can't order the colors of the rainbow because you don't perceive them, okay?
You perceive them as shades of blue and yellow.
So absolutely, we're all seeing the world in different, you know, differently.
Fascinating, okay. Let's talk about your study.
You set out to stimulate M cones without stimulating any neighboring L or S cones, and that doesn't happen in nature.
So, what did you want to know?
If you did that, I guess the question becomes, do you see a square color or is your brain just confused about what you see there, are you using a black hole or, you know, what is it?
And I thought, well, you know, I guess you would see a color and I wanted to know, hey, does that look like, what does it look like?
Does it look like the greenest green you've ever seen?
And I want to call out James Fong and Hannah Doyle amongst many collaborators, but really they stand out as the people that did the hard work, had the perseverance and the smarts, the talent to really chase this down.
It was so challenging.
But The Fruits of the Labor is so valuable because it is really something that's never been done before.
So there's no charted course to it.
Right and you did see something.
You saw OLO. What's required to see this novel color?
Yeah, there are a number of parts.
First of all, in order to be able to consider even targeting only the M -cones, you have to have a map of the cone mosaic of the three types of cones.
So every subject in the study had to travel to the University of Washington to our collaborators lab where he has a device to image the retina and with a special type of imaging called optical coherence tomography.
He was able to label the cone types as being L, M, or S.
So he kind of mapped everyone's eye cones.
That's right. So then when we go to the lab, in the lab here, there's a few steps.
One is you need to dilate your pupil and then we bite into a bite plate called a bite bar, which gets locked into the device.
So your head is held perfectly rigid and then somebody else will align you in X, Y, and Z to get your pupil aligned with the output aperture of the system.
This really reminds me of going to the eye doctor.
Exactly. To test my vision, go on.
That's right, and then now there's one little important fact is that classifying the cones or generating maps of the cones is difficult and nobody has ever mapped the cones right along the line of sight in in an area called your fovea, because the cones are really densely packed there.
So we, instead, we map the cones a little bit away from the fovea.
But about a half a millimeter away from the center of the fovea.
And initially, while everything's getting set up, things look green, or just a regular green.
Then once everything gets into place, and you're carefully fixating, then, whoop, you have this moment where it just turns this saturated teal.
And I was aware at that moment that we had succeeded, that we had created and that we were able to stimulate only the M cones.
And James Fong, the lead author on the paper, he invented the name OLLO because it's a binary code for zero one zero, which represent the stimulation of the L, M and S cones.
It's so smart. And, as I understand that, you also have this teal laser next to OLLO.
and it was a laser containing the most saturated natural light you were able to generate so steady participants could compare the colors.
Right? That's kind of how you showed that olo isn't just teal, it's a completely different color.
That's right What do you say to folks who wonder if olo exists in nature in such a way that maybe other animals could see it?
I love that question.
To be clear, animals don't see the world in color anything like a human does, right?
Nothing like a human does.
Animal eyes are vastly different than ours and even our closest cousins on the evolutionary tree, their genes for those photo pigments that we talked about earlier, they're not the same as for us.
They don't have the same number as us and they don't have the same genetic sequence.
So its functional effect is in the world we're detecting is totally different.
We know that. Like hummingbirds, people have probably heard or may have heard, some of the species can see UV light… We're blind to UV light as one example, but every animal sees it completely differently.
Another way to think about it is that, you know, we all look at the TV, like wow, that color's pretty good.
When your dog or your cat is in there looking at that TV, they do not see that and be like, wow, that kind of looks like, you know, that photo that we all took together outside of the house this morning!
It's just, the colors don't look right, okay?
How do you know? My cat won't play the same video games as me.
I think he's following.
You might be following but the colors won't look the same.
So back to this question about, you know, could there be you know an animal that could see olo...
I received that question for it and said...
Oh, what a great question.
But it's actually that there's no way for that to happen because the experiential...
You know, nature of the color for different species is just so vastly different.
I recognize that you need a machine to see Ollo but, for those of us at home, is there any way to approximate the Ollo experience and to trick your eyes?
Now there's one type of situation where you can get an impression of what Ollo might be and that is if you desensitize or if you're exposed to a bright red light for a period of time.
I'm going to do this at home.
I want to see Ollo so bad, okay.
So if you look at red light and you kind of adapt to red light, by looking at red light too much for a long period of time, you may desensitize to it or adapt to it.
And then, immediately following the adaptation to red light, you show a green light, and that approximates the condition that we generate with Ollo, whereby the M cones are preferentially stimulated more than what normal natural light would do.
And so if you wanted to get a rough idea of what olo looked like, you could do this adaptation trick.
Now the difference is that when we deliver olo we can make it last. It can persist. Wow.
You speak like such a steward of a color.
And it's funny to me because the pop culture craze around seeing Ola has got to be pretty funny for you all to witness.
I read about an artist from the UK, Stuart Semple, who is selling for $10 ,000 preorders of a paint based on Ola called YOLO, which is… you only love those.
Oh, I know. We love that.
What has been the funniest Olo homage or Olo plea that you've read about or seen?
Well, I think I loved YOLO.
The reason I loved it, of course, you can't make a paint that recreates Olo.
It seems like saturation is such a big part of this.
That's right. It's all about saturation.
It's all about the hue.
That's right. But Stuart Semple totally realized that, and his paint was meant to sort of evoke a sensation, a feeling of olo.
From what he describes, he kind of achieved that by adding some fluorescent components.
Some say, well, olo is no different than Taco Bell's Baja Blast, okay?
Some people say, I had the color olo on my Nike sneakers back in 2015.
And so it's all been fun.
They're experiencing FOMO OLO, which that's what that is.
FOMO low. Yes, we've had a bit of that.
Fear of missing out on OLO.
That's right. Thank you for sharing OLO with us on shortwave and with the world, and we wish you luck with future adventures and advances in color in human color vision science.
Well, it's been a real pleasure to talk to you.
Thanks for having us on, Emily.
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