Don't believe everything you see on a product that you buy, because we're being exposed to really toxic chemicals that we know cause harm.
Okay, so I've got everyday products that we're all using.
Is this good? No. What about this?
Absolutely not. Is this a good one?
Yes. This? Throw that out.
Good, bad. There are so many issues with that.
This. Perfect. What about this?
This is one of the worst products that you can use.
I've been using it every day.
Get rid of them. Goodbye.
Dr. Yvonne Burkhardt is a toxicologist whose groundbreaking research has unveiled the shocking truth about the hidden risks of toxins found in everyday products.
And what we can do about it.
We don't know what we're exposing ourselves to, because by law in Europe and in the U .S., manufacturers do not have to disclose certain ingredients.
But we finally have proof that there are links to increased rates of cancer, infertility, obesity.
We know that a surface scratch on a non -stick piece of cookware can release 9 ,000 particles into your food.
Those microplastics have been found in lungs, heart, brain, penis.
There's microplastics in my penis.
Yes. And scientists have found that eventually we will become more plastic than we are humans if we continue at this rate.
You seem really pissed off about this.
I'm really angry that people have to suffer.
I mean, these chemicals are causing children to have cognitive delays.
They start having behavioral issues.
And I think it brings up a lot of emotions for me because I've been personally impacted.
But I think of how many millions of people around the world are struggling and don't know why.
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Dr Yvonne Birkhart.
I've consumed a lot of your content.
I've seen your videos.
I've read a ton of your work.
Just to start, if you had to sort of encapsulate the warning that you're communicating to people into a sentence, what would that warning be?
Don't believe everything you see on a container, a bottle, or a product that you're buying.
Why? What's the consequence?
Is that if you're believing in the marketing and what you see on the front of the label instead of actually reading the ingredients, you could be exposing yourself to toxins that you probably don't want to be.
What mission are you on, Yvonne?
Well, I'm on a mission to empower people to avoid environmental toxins so they can protect their families and really using science and evidence to make informed decisions that affect their health.
And what is the macro picture here?
When you think about the world we're living in and how exposed we are to toxins, do you think people are at all aware of the toxins that we're consuming every day?
I think now people are becoming more aware, but there are new toxins that are emerging every day, and it's simply a consequence of how the system is set up.
And it's mainly because chemicals and products are not required to be tested for safety before they're released onto the market, at least in the US and many other regions of the world.
And so what happens is people are buying these products, and we're being exposed to chemicals that we have no idea how they're actually impacting our health if they're harmful or not.
And we're basically guinea pigs in a massive human experiment that no one signed up for, that we didn't consent to.
And what's the risk?
Well, the risk is that we go about our daily lives, not knowing what we're consuming or being exposed to, and then later on in life, unfortunately fall ill and suffer from some chronic disease.
Are there particular illnesses that are most closely associated with toxins in our environment and toxins that we're consuming every day?
Yes, so cancer is probably one of the most clear associations, as well as infertility.
And more widely known are issues like not being able to conceive, having a decrease in sperm count, sperm quality, and the fact that sperm count has declined by 50 % in the last 50 years is pretty alarming.
And who are you? I'm a toxicologist, but I'm also a mom.
What's a toxicologist?
So I study the basic science of poisons.
How do chemicals interact with the cells in our bodies and how do they cause harm?
Not only that, how do our cells defend themselves against these toxins?
Why did you choose to do toxicology?
You could have done anything with your life.
You could have pursued anything.
I found it by accident.
Was it really an accident though?
I don't know. I think I was led there.
I think I've always been interested.
I think I was meant to share this.
And I think it brings up a lot of emotions for me because I've been personally impacted.
But I think of how many millions of people around the world are struggling and don't know why.
And so if I can bring awareness to that, then I feel like my mission is complete.
But I studied toxicology because just in my body I knew that something was amiss.
We need to study this environment around us.
We need to be more aware and more conscious of what we're doing.
And when I was an undergrad and I discovered toxicology, I was living the absolute conventional lifestyle and sick all the time and wondering why.
And just thinking that it was normal and I shrugged it off and it wasn't normal.
And I reversed it. It's so personal for you, isn't it?
It is, absolutely. Why?
Not only because I've been personally impacted, but I want my children to have the best version of me.
So I can look after them and so that I don't have to worry about them having some of the problems that I had.
Are you scared about that?
I'm concerned. And I take action on it every single day.
I think about it all the time.
But not in a scared way.
Just what else can I do?
What else can I research?
What else can I learn?
How else can I implement this?
And how else can I share this so that other people can implement it?
Because there's so much going on in the scientific community about these toxic chemicals that the general public doesn't know.
And we all have a right to know.
Have we got any tissues, Joe?
Thank you. Didn't expect to cry.
Yeah, I mean, I can understand, but it's illuminating because it really shows why you're doing what you're doing and how much it means to you, which I think is really important.
And it makes a lot of things make sense, frankly.
But it also, I haven't had kids yet, so I don't have that lens that, I guess, comes with being a parent and that concern of, I think about myself and I'm fairly young.
But I can imagine in a world where I had kids, I'd become ultra cautious and ultra thoughtful.
Yeah, especially coming from where I came from, where I had those problems.
And just to think, if I can prevent that in my children and help people prevent that in their children, then that's the best outcome for everyone.
I actually did never pay attention to toxins before.
I studied toxicology.
I was in the lab. I was looking at really toxic chemicals.
Chemicals that we know cause harm and cause cancer.
But as I went on with my life, I started to face more and more increasing health issues, increasing in severity until I was faced with fertility challenges.
And I was unable and unwilling to accept at the time that IVF or in vitro fertilization would be my only option if I wanted to have family.
And I was unwilling to accept that because I said, wait a second, I know that there's an environmental component to this.
There's chemicals in our environment that are impacting my fertility.
That's what I studied in the lab.
I studied fertility and cancer.
So it was quite shocking to me that I actually started to struggle with some of these conditions, but no one could give me answers.
And what was missing from my view at the time was these low dose chronic exposures over a lifetime to toxins and chemicals in our products, in our homes, in our outside world, that nobody really has connected to some of these disease states.
And so it wasn't until I embarked on a journey of self discovery and research that I started to uncover the linkages between these low dose environmental chemicals and products that we're using all the time and how they impacted my health.
And when I started to remove them and replace them with safer options, my health returned, my health recovered, and I was actually able to conceive my own children without assistance.
How old were you when you were first told that IVF was the only route?
I was 32. Okay. And you'd had tests done and stuff, and at that time to see if you were your sort of fertility levels and things like that.
Right. I was actually not having a cycle at that point for nine months.
You didn't have a period at all.
I didn't have a period.
So that is quite striking because as a person in their 30s, people don't go through menopause and have a lack of a period until sometimes 50 years old.
That's almost 20 years earlier than that.
That was really shocking to me.
Something was clearly wrong.
My body was screaming for help, and I had no other option but to take matters into my own hands.
As a toxicologist, someone who's trained and done the research, when you were told that IVF is the only route, what did they say was the problem?
Because if someone's telling you that IVF is the only route, presumably they're saying that you're maybe implying between the lines that you're broken in some way or that it's normal not to have a period at 32.
What does the system tell you is the problem with you?
That's the issue is that they didn't.
They had no answers.
They couldn't tell me what the issues were.
They said, oh, you look normal in tests, but if you're unable to get pregnant on your own, well, the other option is IVF or adopt.
And as a toxicologist, was there anything that you needed to relearn or re -understand based on your training that you've discovered wasn't true?
I had to relearn almost everything because as a scientist, I was trained as a toxicologist day one to follow the path and the belief that the dose makes the poison, that the more you're exposed to a chemical, the more severe the outcome.
And that's not always true because as we know now, there are chemicals in the environment known as endocrine disruptors at very low levels have higher activity than they do at high levels.
So it's completely backwards.
So I had to relearn everything that I had learned as a student in order to recover.
And in fact, I was so resistant and so hesitant to go outside of what I knew that actually helped, uh, kept me stuck for much longer than I needed to be.
Did you say with endocrine disruptors that sometimes lower doses are worse than higher doses?
Exactly. How can that be possible?
They're called non -monotonic dose responses.
That's a technical term for it, but it's basically because the hormones in our bodies are present and active at such extraordinarily tiny amounts that any amount of excess or chemicals coming from the environment could trigger those same pathways could be devastating on a cellular level.
And when you think about the products that we use day to day, whether they're beauty products or, you know, might be a frying pan or a spatula, plastic spatula or anything, how many of these are toxic chemicals?
Almost everything. And it might shock you to think that is almost everything, but unfortunately it is.
It's because our world now is overcome with plastics, single use plastics, plastic containers, food containers, almost everything that we know of has some plastic element to it.
And that's really at the root of a lot of the problems that we have because the chemicals that are used to create the plastics are leaching.
The plastics themselves are breaking up, leading to microplastic and nano plastic release that we are just being constantly bombarded with on a daily basis.
And what about beauty products?
Because I had this conversation with my partner recently.
So we're in the process now.
I'm 32 years old. So it's that kind of season of life where you start thinking about having a family and kids and such.
And so we've both become pretty conscious of the products that we're applying every day from shampoos to deodorants.
So for the most part, if you grab a product off of a store shelf, nine times out of ten there are chemicals of concern in them.
And we're talking about major retailers, big box stores.
If you go to smaller, let's say, health food stores and chains like that, then the percentage is much lower.
So you have a better chance of getting a safer product at a health food store.
Just before we get into it, can you give me an overview of your personal education and the career journey you've traveled that have resulted in the wisdom that you have now?
Yeah. So I am a PhD toxicologist.
I started studying reproductive toxicity in the laboratory as an undergrad.
And we were looking at the effect of environmental chemicals that are pretty much everywhere in the environment.
They're the products of combustion.
So the combustion of gasoline and cars and cigarettes and cooking.
So some of these chemicals.
And we looked at the impact of them on the reproductive system in males and females.
And what we saw was pretty striking such that when the animals are challenged with these chemicals and they're pregnant, then the offspring, not only the daughters and the sons, but also the grandchildren are impacted by the grandmother being exposed.
How does that work?
So when a woman is pregnant with a female daughter, her developing ovaries, which will then someday become, contain the eggs that will then become the grandchildren, are also in the same environment as the mother.
So what the mother is being exposed to, the baby is also being exposed to and also her grandchildren are being exposed.
So if a mother is exposed to toxins, her babies babies are being exposed to those toxins.
That's exactly right.
So there's sort of a generational toxification of people.
Yeah. That's called multigenerational toxicity.
And it even goes a step further.
Transgenerational. That's when great grandchildren can be impacted because what's happening in utero is epigenetic changes.
So changes to our DNA that are then being passed down through our progeny.
So great grandchildren, even if they live a perfectly clean lifestyle and haven't been exposed to toxins, could have already been genetically predisposed to developing some of these conditions.
Are there particular toxins that you think are especially susceptible to this sort of transgenerational passing down through mutations in our DNA?
Yeah, it's the endocrine disruptors, things like phthalates, bisphenol, PFAS chemicals, a lot of the endocrine disruptors that some people are familiar with, other people are not, but that are found in our everyday products, like nonstick cookware, the makeup and cosmetics that we're using, the plastic
containers that we're buying food in.
What is an endocrine disruptor?
Explain that to me like I'm nine years old.
Okay. So in the human body, we have eight endocrine glands.
So there are little centers in our bodies and they secrete hormones.
And these hormones regulate pretty much everything that you can think of.
So from sleep, wake, digestion, to how well your brain works, cognition, to metabolism, so how quickly you can burn calories, how much fat you deposit, how much fat you can lose, and also your fertility if you're able to have children someday.
So endocrine disruptors are coming in and they're basically disrupting, like just as the name indicates, they're throwing the balance off, they're messing up with the signaling, they're causing everything to go haywire in our bodies.
So we really need to be careful, especially for children whose bodies are rapidly developing and then you're throwing in these endocrine disrupting chemicals.
It's like adding gasoline to, you know, like a dumpster fire basically.
And as it relates to children, are they especially susceptible to endocrine disruptors because they're in a developmental stage?
Absolutely. So with children, it's extremely unfortunate that they are the most susceptible and most vulnerable to a lot of toxins, because like you said, they're growing, they're not able to detoxify.
In fact, a child's detoxification capacity doesn't fully develop until the age of 10 years.
So detoxification capacity, what's that?
Yeah. So the ability of your body to detoxify chemicals.
We all have it. Everyone has it.
The liver and the kidney are the detox organs, the main ones.
But we have this capability of being able to break these chemicals down and remove them so that they don't cause harm in our bodies.
But with children, that ability isn't fully developed until the age of 10 years old.
So if you think about all these little children, they're being exposed even before they're born, after they're born, and then they can't even get rid of these chemicals from their body until they're 10 years old.
And what are some of the illnesses or diseases that we see in children that have been heavily exposed to these endocrine disruptors in our everyday environment?
The worst is cancer.
So we see an increased risk of childhood leukemia with certain exposures.
There's also neurodevelopmental delays.
So cognitive deficits in children that are exposed to these chemicals.
We also see increased rates of obesity.
Obesity in children is skyrocketing now.
Unprecedented levels that we have not seen before.
And it's likely due to these chemicals and this genetic predisposition and programming that kids are just being dealt the worst hand possible.
What about things like neurodivergence?
Is there links between things like ADHD and these endocrine disruptors?
And ADHD, autism, etc, etc.
Yeah, there is a link, actually.
So some of these chemicals have been known to worsen these behavioral conditions like ADHD and autism, like you mentioned.
And have they done studies on this?
Yes. So there's associations where they'll measure the amount of these chemicals in children through their urine or through their blood.
And they'll confirm the severity of these conditions and be able to correlate it with the amount of the chemicals in their bodies.
And what about the impact this has on things like puberty?
Because I was reading some stats before that.
I think it's is it women are having girls are getting going through puberty earlier and earlier?
Or is it later and later?
I can't remember. It's one of the two.
It's earlier, earlier and earlier.
So children who are being exposed to these chemicals are experiencing earlier puberty, earlier breast development, earlier menstrual cycles.
And what that does is actually shift the entire window.
Because if you think about it, we're born with a set number of eggs in our ovaries.
Once those eggs are gone, that's when you start having menopause.
So what's happening when you start your period earlier, you actually go through menopause earlier.
And that can come with a whole host of risk factors, bone fractures, and so on and so forth.
And this is because of those endocrine disruptors?
Likely, yes. How would they know?
They've done studies on this as well.
So you can see that they've done observational studies where they'll ask families, when did your child start using beauty and personal care products which are loaded with these chemicals?
The children who used more products have more phthalates, more endocrine disruptors in their blood and in their urine.
And then they have earlier puberty, unfortunately.
And as it relates to fertility, generally, in adults, are you aware of the shifts we've seen in infertility?
What are the numbers?
How do you quantify the changes?
Well, over the last hundred years or so, there has been a drastic decline in the number of live births.
So that's one of the numbers that I have looked at recently, right?
So it isn't necessarily that more people are experiencing infertility.
It could be a measure of people are having children later, could be.
People are just having less children, but it is an overall measure of population level.
So it looks like there's just less children being born, and that could be for a whole number of reasons, right?
Are people not able to have kids?
Are they choosing not to have kids?
I would almost argue that it's the fact that people are not able to have kids.
When you correlate that with the fact that sperm counts have declined by 50 % worldwide, that is absolutely astonishing.
We're not at the point yet where humans will go extinct.
But if we continue on this path and don't make changes, which there are many ways that we can make changes, then we might be looking at population decline.
Isn't it the job of the FDA or some kind of government body to regulate the chemicals that are in all everyday items?
You would think, right?
In Europe, the European Commission has a much better system of regulating chemicals.
So they require upfront chemical testing, depending on the amount that is produced.
So chemical manufacturers need to provide data.
So they have to fund these studies, these laboratory studies.
They have to fund them and provide this package of information to the European Chemicals Agency or ECA.
And once they do that, then based on the amount that they're producing, you have to give more information.
You have to have more testing.
Such that if you're producing several metric tons of chemical, you've got to do a whole bunch of studies to really prove that it is safe, not only for people, but also animals and the environment.
That it's not going to be something that is persistent, that builds up, that can't be broken down, that starts to accumulate, because that's what we're seeing now with some of these chemicals.
And that's really the problem, is that they don't break down.
They don't go away.
They don't disappear.
So then what happens?
It basically disrupts the entire ecosystem of the planet.
And we're not disconnected from that, right?
We're connected to the ecosystem.
We rely on that. So if we're looking at it from the standpoint that testing of chemicals up front, that is absolutely something that we should be doing.
But no one is really mandating that, except in Europe.
Why don't they mandate it in other parts of the world like the United States?
Our system wasn't set up like that over here.
I think we've got a different relationship between the government and with industry.
I think there is a lack of regulations, a lack of requirements for toxicity testing, combined with the lack of corporate responsibility.
So a lot of these manufacturers don't want to have to foot the bill and pay millions of dollars to have testing, only to show that this chemical that they are so excited and in love with can't be used because it's toxic.
Do you think it is malicious and intentional, in terms of, do you think there's a concerted effort to make sure that the government doesn't increase regulation on these industries so that they can continue to produce low -cost items that have long shelf lives and are cheaper?
I would hope not, but it's looking like that.
It's just this whole system is not set up to protect consumers and then the environment, at least in the US.
You don't have your period yourself.
You're told that your best option is to go do IVF.
You then go on a bit of a journey yourself to unlearn lots of things you learn in toxicology training.
What was the ending to that story in terms of what did you do then?
Did you go find a different doctor?
What did you change?
What is the ending of that story?
Well, I fell down a rabbit hole of research and I had to pick myself up and say, hey, you know what?
I'm going to take matters into my own hands.
I'm going outside of the route that I thought I was supposed to go down, the mainstream route.
I went sideways a little bit and I went with integrative and functional medicine.
I went looking for the root cause, the root cause, which is not necessarily what I was being guided toward with the conventional route.
So with integrative and functional medicine, there was personalized testing.
And of course, this was all upfront cost for me, but this was something that was absolutely vital.
So I found a way to pay for these tests and they told me exactly what I'm deficient in, what I need to do, and they guided me.
So I first started with removing inflammatory foods and really dialing in on my diet.
And I saw relief from my symptoms within two weeks, very rapid.
Once I started removing these triggers that were causing digestive problems, then I started to see improvement very fast.
But it was then going on six months and I kind of felt like I hit a plateau.
I said, there's something else that's still triggering me.
There's something else that's still bothering me and I don't feel 100%.
Even though I've done all the work, I've cleaned up my diet, I cook all my meals at home.
I have sourced the best quality meats and vegetables.
I even started growing my own food and there was still something there.
Something was not right.
And so then I started targeting things in my home.
My makeup cabinet in particular was a huge source of trigger for me in terms of chemicals and toxicity.
Once I started to clean out my makeup drawer, I really saw a shift because what I was doing on a day -to -day basis, I was using several cosmetic products.
I was absolutely obsessed with perfumes and fragrances.
Once I removed those, one by one, slowly disentangling myself from there, just being obsessed with them, I started to see real change.
And I noticed more energy return.
I was feeling more fit.
I had more mental clarity, more focus.
I didn't have as many headaches and migraines anymore.
And I just started to feel like a more vital person, more vitality.
And did your period return?
It did. It did return and it returned and I was pregnant within nine months of that first, the first time when I started this whole journey within nine months, I was pregnant.
I had my period back within, I'd probably say three months and then six months after that, once I got rid of all the beauty and personal care products, I also looked into my oral care, my oral health.
I had mercury amalgam fillings and mercury is extremely toxic to reproduction, but also to the brain.
Once I got rid of the mercury out of my teeth, that was when things just really took a nice, a huge leap in my in my health journey.
And how were you able to measure the improvements?
I know you can say, you know, I felt better, but could you measure the improvements biochemically in a lab somehow?
Yes, actually, that was part of this entire journey.
So there was regular routine testing going on whenever we made changes.
I was working with these practitioners and I made changes and we would do tests and say, look, your numbers came back.
It looks great. You removed the mercury amalgam fillings from your teeth.
Your mercury levels have dropped.
Really? Yeah, it was pretty shocking.
And I felt almost instantly better when they took those out of my mouth.
It was that striking of an effect.
Knowing what you know, surely it's built up a bit of, I don't know, a bit of a, if I knew all that you knew, I think, about toxins in our environment, I would be A, a really annoying person at like every dinner party.
And B, there'd be a certain sense of, I guess, emergency, an urgency to me, because I'd be looking around at all my friends and I'd be, if I understood the consequences of them drinking from that plastic container or putting that product on their face, I feel like I'm trying to be shouted at the world
to tell them to stop.
Do you feel a sense of that?
You directly witnessed the impact that making these changes and detoxifying your environment had on you.
Do you feel a sense of like, you know?
Absolutely. I mean, I can't even tell you how much passion it has ignited in me to be able to share this information and spread it as far and wide as possible because it's literally affecting every single person on this planet.
And I do find it sometimes challenging not to call someone out and say, hey, be careful with that.
But you know, I think it comes from being a living example.
And I found that that is much more effective at being a living example, instead of telling people don't do this, don't do that, showing them what's possible.
Look at what happened to me.
Look at my journey.
Look at the benefit that I feel.
And then once you start removing these things and making these simple swaps, it's about simple small incremental shifts that anyone can do over the long term because it's really about it's a marathon, not a race.
It's not about you've got to throw everything away and you've got to hide under a rock because I tried that and it didn't work and it caused more stress and stress is harmful.
So being a living example, empowering people with information, educating about the problem, but coming with the solution.
You mentioned cancer is one of the downstream consequences of living in a toxic environment.
And we talked about how sperm quality has reduced over the last couple of decades.
When we look at the stats around cancer, are there any stats in particular that you think are most clearly associated with us living in such a toxic environment?
One of them that always brings to mind is breast cancer because I think I read or heard that breast cancer is on the rise or has been rising for the last couple of decades.
And when you look at the Western world versus something like a tribe in Africa, they don't see the same levels of breast cancer.
Yeah, that is definitely a concern because cancer historically was a disease of age, aging.
It wasn't so common that you see cancer in your thirties, forties, and even fifties.
Now we're seeing a shift.
The window is moving earlier and earlier.
Cancer incidence, like you said, breast cancer incidence is definitely on the rise.
I myself never knew anyone that suffered from breast cancer or survived it until I hit my thirties.
Then I knew five people that had it, including two people that I worked with in the toxicology lab.
And what are your suspicions is there's a huge environmental component to it because a lot of what was believed decades ago was that disease and cancer incidence had to do with your genes.
You were just genetically predisposed.
You were unlucky. But in actuality, what we're seeing now is that the environment plays such a massive role in whether or not you actually have cancer.
So just because you have the predisposition to developing breast cancer, such as the BRCA gene, doesn't mean you'll get it.
It really depends on your lifestyle and how you lived, but also how your ancestors lived, right?
We talked about the multi -generational effect of these chemicals, depending on how your ancestors lived, how your grandmother and how your mother lived, could predispose you to this.
And have there been any studies that show the impact of these sort of everyday chemicals on cancer risk?
Yes. And that's something that is, I don't want to say that it's exciting, but I'm glad that we finally have proof.
I don't want to see these studies.
I hate seeing this actually.
I'm really angry that people have to suffer with cancer because it's so preventable.
There was a study recently that looked at removing certain ingredients from beauty and personal care products.
So women without any history of breast cancer were asked to remove these ingredients from their products for 28 days.
So that's very short, four weeks, right?
They took cells from the breast tissue.
They were all normal.
They measured the amount of breast cancer gene expression.
After 28 days, they took another sample.
So after 28 days of removing these ingredients, they took another sample and they saw that the breast cancer gene expression dropped.
And the only thing that they were asked to change about their lifestyle was to remove these ingredients from their beauty and personal care products.
And which products were they told to remove?
And what ingredients were those?
It was skincare, deodorant, shampoo, things that most people are using.
And the ingredients were phthalates, which can often be found in fragrance.
So the seemingly innocuous little term on the ingredients list, fragrance or parfum, can contain a huge number of chemicals.
It's hidden behind this umbrella term because by law in Europe and in the U .S., manufacturers do not have to disclose this.
It is considered trade secret.
And within that chemical mixture are known carcinogens, endocrine disruptors like phthalates, and the most potent allergens known to man.
And with phthalates, the reason that they're in fragrances and that manufacturers love them so much is they're what are known as film formers.
So it helps the fragrance to stick to surfaces like your skin, your clothing, and it helps to make it last longer and linger.
So if you've ever sprayed something on yourself and are still able to smell it hours later, that's a telltale sign that you've been exposed to phthalates, that you have phthalates in that fragrance, in that product.
And how many deodorants on the shelf have phthalates in them?
If it's got fragrance in it, almost all of them.
It's code for endocrine disrupting phthalates, essentially.
You can assume that.
And in fact, it's safe to assume that they contain phthalates.
So I mean, this is one of the deodorants that I often use.
It's just, I mean, for anyone that's just listening, it's just like one of the deodorants you would find on a shelf in any store that comes in a little, is this an aluminium can?
Yeah, it is an aluminium can.
Does this have phthalates in it?
How do I know? So you just turn the container around and check the ingredients list.
Do you see a word fragrance slash parfum?
Yeah, fragrance brackets parfum.
That's what you're looking for.
Okay, so I shouldn't be spraying this all over my body.
Right. Okay. So sometimes you'll see on there, it'll say phthalate free.
Okay. Right. That's helpful.
But that still doesn't take away the fact that there are known carcinogens and allergens in there.
So if you've got any kind of respiratory problems, any kind of skin problems, and you just don't want to expose yourself to unnecessary carcinogens, then it would be beneficial to avoid fragrance.
What about a little spray?
Just a psst? I mean, it depends.
Is that really going to benefit you?
Are you going to get any effect from that little spray?
I don't want to smell.
So this is why I spray this, because you know, this top is quite tight.
So if it's tight and it's hot in here, I'll end up smelling.
So I just spray psst, and then I'm really doing it.
It's public service for other people, really.
I'm fine to smell myself.
I can't even smell it, but it's for, you know, Jack and the team.
Well, the question would be, can you find a safer alternative?
And the answer is yes.
How do I find a safer alternative?
What am I looking for?
So you don't want fragrances?
And you definitely, yes.
So avoid the word fragrance, unless it says that the fragrance comes from essential oils.
Okay. But if it comes from essential oils, will it still make me smell nice?
Yes. Okay. Yes. Because that's where aromatic compounds come from.
They come from plants.
But just to give you more context on this aerosol spray, this is one of the worst products that you can use.
I've been using it every day.
Yeah. So I'll tell you why.
Aerosols use propellants.
Propellants are derived from petroleum.
And there was a recall on thousands of products within the last couple of years that the propellants were a source of benzene contamination.
And benzene is a known human carcinogen that you do not want to be inhaling because what you inhale goes to your brain.
It goes quickly all over your body through the bloodstream.
You don't want to be delivering a known human carcinogen into your bloodstream.
You're just not helping you at all because benzene is known to cause leukemia in people.
So it's a no -brainer if you want to avoid that to avoid aerosols.
But not only that, if you think about how you're actually applying the product, you're spraying it like this, right?
In a stream and it heads towards your face.
Then that's also an inhalation risk because there's particles in there.
There's solids in there.
You don't want to be inhaling unnecessary things.
So the best option for deodorant is to look for something that has essential oils and is a roll -on or a stick solid.
Is there anything on the label that I can trust when it comes to deodorants?
Is there like a certain term that I'm looking for?
You said phthalate -free.
Is there anything else that?
Yes. So phthalate -free and paraben -free are definitely helpful.
Because then we know at least two of the known endocrine disruptors that we have evidence on are not found in that product.
But that doesn't exonerate everything else.
We still need to be diligent about the ingredients because they are sources of contamination of byproducts of carcinogens and hidden toxins essentially.
It is pretty crazy that I could get a lighter and go and it would be flammable.
And then I spray that on my body like I'm lathering myself in petrol or something.
It is pretty crazy.
That's essentially what that is.
Petrol. Yeah because it's coming from petroleum.
All of the propellants and some of the other base ingredients I'm sure I haven't looked at it but I'm almost certain because that is the source of the majority of ingredients that go into these products.
This is my last day ever using aerosol deodorants.
Let's pull up a bin.
Okay. Goodbye. Okay that's gone.
Okay is this a better alternative?
What I've got here is I've got this roll on deodorant which I think is one of the refillable ones.
Is this a better alternative?
At least from this level of what I know of the fact that it's a solid.
Yes but I have to see the ingredients list.
We have to look at the ingredients list to really know what's actually in the deodorant.
Okay. So at least from a sustainability standpoint that's definitely great to see that it's not in a plastic container that is refillable but we really need to check the ingredients.
Okay so I've got the ingredients list here.
I've just pulled it up on my iPad.
It says tapioca starch, baking soda, sunflower seed wax, coca seed butter, tocafenoral X -state.
No wonder what that is.
Sterile alcohol perfume.
So do you recognize the ingredients?
Are they easily recognizable or do they sound highly synthetic very chemical like?
It says parfum. Is there any indication on what's in the parfum?
All our deodorants are scented with a blend of fragrances to give you the sense you love.
Is there any indication that it's phthalate free and paraben free?
No. That's what should give us pause is when we don't know what's in that fragrance term.
That's really the issue.
Okay I mean there's just so many bloody words.
Phthalate free deodorant.
I've got a better way that I can help you search.
Okay. If you just type in the word organic and then whatever product you're looking for.
Organic deodorant. That is going to whittle down the choices significantly for you.
When you're saying that if it's organic that means that it won't contain the phthalates in the parabens.
Not necessarily. This is where it gets a little bit nuanced but at least it whittles down the results that you'll get in search and then you can check the ingredients one by one and look for the one that has essential oils instead of the word fragrance.
Because it's really the lack of transparency that should make us pause.
We have no idea what's in there.
We don't know what we're exposing ourselves to and if you're someone who is concerned about the chemicals in the products you're using, the toxins you're being exposed to, if you are someone who is thinking about getting pregnant, are pregnant, breastfeeding or just health conscious and you don't want
these toxins in your products, then this is the work that needs to be done.
Interesting. So just because it's a roll on doesn't necessarily mean it's safe.
Right. Like you just demonstrated.
And just because it's sustainable also doesn't mean it's safe.
So there's a lot of marketing that goes on with products and manufacturers know that consumers are becoming savvy, they're becoming aware and they're demanding safer products.
So they will hit all of the buttons and hope that somebody isn't diligent and doesn't see through that.
Is fragrance so important?
Because fragrance is an indicator that it contains these phthalates and parabens.
Is that why I should be thinking fragrance is one indicator for whether the cosmetic product is toxic or not?
Yeah, definitely. That would be probably the easiest and most obvious way that you can weed products out is just look for the word fragrance or perfume.
And if there's no indication that it comes from plants, that it's from essential oils, then that's not something that you want to use.
I read a stat that said 91 % of antiperspirants, 95 % of shaving products, 83 % of moisturizers, and 63 % of sunscreens contain fragrance.
And 96 % of shampoos, 98 % of conditioners, 97 % of hair styling products contain fragrance as well.
Why are they putting fragrance and everything?
Would the products not sell if there weren't fragrance in there?
Yeah, I think it's there's many reasons that they put fragrances in.
So first of all, we are sensory beings and people respond to fragrances.
Fragrances changes your mood, it uplifts your mood, it helps you feel more confident.
Fragrances affect us on a very primal level.
And the earlier and earlier that you can get hooked on fragrances, the better for these manufacturers, right?
So that's why they're putting fragrances in even children's products and scented everything.
If you notice, I've got kids, we go out and they look for slime.
I said, let's look for unscented slime.
It's nearly impossible to find it.
You'd have to make your own slime at home.
So that's what we've started doing.
And the kids love it because they get to, you know, be like little chemists or whatever.
But you cannot find even, even they have markers, pens, crayons, they've got scented stickers, I mean, scented everything, scented everywhere.
Now, the fragrance industry has absolutely exploded in the last 10 or 15 years.
And fragrances are the most pervasive source, one of the most pervasive sources of toxins in our homes, in our daily lives.
It's almost like the new secondhand smoke.
That's how prevalent it is.
Because the chemicals, once you spray them, right, the reason you smell them is because they have volatilized means that they have become gases and they reach your nose, you smell them.
What that also means is that they are in the air.
Studies have shown that these fragrance chemicals, phthalates, carcinogens, allergens, they bind to the dust in your home.
So it's not like I smell this fragrance, I sprayed it three hours ago and I'm totally fine.
Well, it's still in the air.
It's always going to be in the air unless you physically remove the dust.
So if you're not regularly dusting, mopping, sweeping and vacuuming, you're becoming re -exposed.
And this is absolutely the worst for a child, a baby who is crawling on the floor.
Their faces and noses and airways are close to the ground.
So they're inhaling the dust that have settled on the floor.
I don't know many people that are sweeping and dusting every single day, but if you have a child, then I really want you to listen to this because the child is putting stuff in their mouth so they're ingesting these dust particles, they're ingesting the chemicals that are attached to the dust particles,
they're inhaling them and they can't detox them, they can't detoxify them from their bodies.
And so then what happens?
They grow up, they start having allergies, they start having cognitive delays, they start having behavioral issues, they start storing more fat, they can't lose weight, they have low energy, depression and a host of conditions that we think are common but doesn't mean they're normal and they're avoidable.
That's the part that is so important, is that these conditions are avoidable.
I was just reading about allergies as you're speaking and I've got some stats here.
Food allergies, the prevalence of food allergies in children have increased by 50 % since the 1990s in the United States.
In terms of seasonal allergies, in 2021 approximately 81 million Americans were diagnosed with allergic rhinitis also known as hay fever or seasonal allergies.
By 2018 nearly 42 million Americans or 13 % of the population have been diagnosed with asthma in their lifetime and I mean why is this happening?
I mean there's like BBC articles here that show there's been huge increases in allergic reactions as well, the EpiPen business is on the rise.
Why are allergies getting worse in your opinion?
Yeah I think it's this pervasiveness of the overuse of fragrances, scented products and the lack of awareness about the harm that they cause.
There's studies showing that there are people who as soon as you light a candle then people start having migraines, they can't think straight anymore, they become dizzy but not only that like you said increased asthma incidence and once you get asthma it doesn't go away.
You have reactive airways so then you're triggered again whenever you encounter these chemicals.
What about people who say the allergies have exploded over the last couple of years because we're not letting our kids consume more dirt.
I hear this a lot people say it's because we're becoming too sanitized and our kids need to go play in the mud.
That could be it as well but I would like to see the data in the rise in fragrances and fragrance use overlaid on top of the incidence of allergies in children and all of these health conditions.
I want to see that data, I haven't seen it yet and I'm hoping that somebody does these these studies because I think they would be correlated.
Have you done any research on you know always thinking about other populations and civilizations and that aren't exposed to the environmental factors we're exposed to and seeing how they're getting on in terms of health outcomes when they're not exposed to microplastics and fragrances you know like
some of the tribes in Africa that are still pretty close to being contaminated by human interference in the western world.
Have you ever looked at any of those civilizations or societies?
Yeah the rate and incidence of cancer is almost non -existent at least it was almost non -existent but now some of these chemicals have spread so far and wide and one example being PFAS they're known as forever chemicals because they don't degrade.
They can travel so far they basically covered the globe they are found in polar bear fat so that just tells you how far up the food chain these chemicals have traveled because they don't break down so as soon as an animal eats it and then it gets eaten by another animal so on and so forth then it reaches
the apex predators right and it's stored in their fat and in polar bears it's been seen that you can find some of these chemicals so we know how far and why that these chemicals have gone that even these tribes that are in remote locations aren't necessarily exempt from being exposed.
They're also getting exposed it's just in the air it's in the water it's in the soil.
And what chemicals are those PFAS?
PFAS. So per and polyfluoroalkyl substances it's a huge chemical class of about 15 000 different chemicals and that includes things like PFOA, PFOS and PTFE which are more commonly known as teflon non -stick chemicals.
Like this non -stick pan that I have here?
Exactly. So there's that PFAS.
PFAS. Yes PTFE is the chemical name for teflon.
So teflon is used to create the non -stick coating and it is believed that because it is so chemically stable that it wouldn't come off the pan into your food but that's not true.
There's evidence showing that there is transfer from the cookware in normal cooking conditions into food.
Not only that when you heat that pan high enough it will vaporize and get into the air and if you inhale it you run the risk of experiencing what's known as teflon flu and it basically has flu -like symptoms when you inhale that stuff and so that would be considered an acute exposure so a one -time higher
dose exposure. But what we really need information on are the chronic low doses that we're getting just by cooking our daily eggs on there.
Have there been any studies done on the the impact of people cooking on these versus people that don't cook with these non -sticks or the teflon pans?
Well I can tell you that they've measured the amount of chemicals that are coming off of the pans and so if you've ever had a non -stick piece of cookware it scratches very easily.
Yeah. And some of these scratches are microscopic and invisible to the to the naked eye.
Studies have found that a surface scratch can release 9 ,000 particles from that non -stick coating into your food and if it's a crack it that number jumps up to 2 .3 billion particles that are transferred into your food.
And what's that going to do to my health?
What are these PFAS doing to my health?
Well PFAS are linked with several types of cancers so kidney, antisticular cancer, thyroid disorders which thyroid problems are so common these days but they're not normal.
Then we have increased risk of miscarriage, preterm labor, preterm birth, preeclampsia which is high blood pressure during pregnancy.
That could be deadly.
You also have increased obesity that's linked with PFAS chemicals and PFAS also contribute to an increase in endometriosis and PCOS.
Oh really? So people who have endometriosis and PCOS they have found to have higher levels of PFAS in their bodies and PFAS are found in everybody.
No one's exempt. Everyone has PFAS in our bodies but whether or not they're able to exert toxicity depends on your inner environment, depends on how many other chemicals your body is working to fight off.
I just pulled up some studies here.
One of the studies from 2023 which you might be aware of showed that higher levels of PFAS in the blood of women in Singapore were associated with a 30 to 40 percent lower chance of pregnancy and live birth within one year.
Another study sampled 381 blood samples from people trying to lose weight and no matter the diet that these participants tried they gained weight if they had elevated PFAS exposure.
What the hell? They gained weight even if they tried different diets.
Yeah so these chemicals are known endocrine disruptors are also known as obesogens so they're increasing the prevalence of obesity so you store more fat and you can't lose it.
Obesogens? I thought food was the only obesity.
Well the chemicals that you're being exposed to through your cookware through food packaging they're also sources of these endocrine disruptors.
And what about cancer?
Is PFAS linked to cancer?
Have they done any studies on that with animals?
Yeah in humans it's kidney and testicular cancer.
Okay what about prostate?
I know that's a big concern for a lot of men in particular.
I haven't seen direct evidence on that but I wouldn't be surprised if that was also linked because that's also a hormonal tissue.
A study from 2021 in mice at the University of Illinois found that a high fat diet combined with PFAS exposure could cause changes in prostate cells that promote tumor growth.
Is there an alternative to PFAS?
Is there something that I could use instead of this non -stick pan?
Yeah just get rid of the non -stick chemicals all together and that would be something as simple as cast iron, stainless steel, glass cookware, ceramic cookware.
It's just a bit more annoying isn't it?
Yeah I mean non -stick cookware is amazing.
I mean you can make food slide off, cleanup is a breeze but at what cost?
You might be saving time when you're cooking but how much of that time is being taken off the back end of your lifespan is the question.
So you're saying throw this away?
I would but see that's the other thing is if you are then hearing this and you're like I gotta get rid of my cookware well guess what you throw that out and it ends up in a landfill and the PFAS chemicals are now in the environment where they won't go away.
So am I throwing it away?
So it really depends right if you are in the position to where you can get rid of it then it might benefit you but the key is to really stop buying it but you already have it.
So it's really up to you.
In terms of cookware that's that's better for me avoid the non -stick, go for stainless steel, cast iron.
What about the utensils then?
So things like I've got a plastic spatula here in my hand.
Is this good? No because that's melting it's breaking off into little tiny bits and fragments of microplastics and nanoplastics in your food.
So bad spatula? Yes.
Okay. The silicone, the silicone rubber, the plastic if you just think about the fact that it's being heated up if you've ever looked at one the integrity you'll see it starting to fray if you see any bits coming off then you know it's definitely breaking up and getting into your food.
Yeah there's loads of little pieces missing from the end of the plastic and I guess that's gone into the food most likely.
Right. Slowly dissolving over time.
Right because with non -stick cookware you can't use metal utensils right you'll scratch the surface but guess what even with that you can scratch the surface.
So the wooden one here in my left hand that's better?
Yes at least from a safety and microplastic and non -stick chemical perspective yes.
Are you concerned at all?
No not at all. Okay so wood is fine?
Wood is totally fine.
Okay. What people normally will say is I can't properly clean the wood but I haven't had that issue just clean it with soap and water and it is fine.
Okay so we'll keep the wooden spatula.
What else in terms of cooking?
So I've got this pan here you're saying this is a good one stainless steel?
Yes. Great keep that one.
Keep that one. Um okay what about what about this?
Nice plastic container.
Super convenient put my lunch in it go to work maybe pop it in the microwave heat it up get my takeaway in it.
Plastic container. Good.
Absolutely not do not microwave plastic containers even after just a few seconds you'll get release of billions of microplastic particles into your food just from a tiny square centimeter you'll get billions of microplastic particles and with microplastics they're hard it's a solid mass it does not break
down in the body. What if it says BPA free?
That's great but it's still plastic it's still microplastic it's still nanoplastic releasing and it probably has phthalates in it depending on the type of plastic.
Right okay so you don't want to be microwaving these and if I get microplastics into my food what's the what's the net impact what's the harm of that?
Well microplastics don't break down they don't go away again they're accumulating in human tissues so they've actually been found in a whole number I'm pretty sure they're all over the body at this point we just have to see the the evidence to know right and so they're in human lungs blood in the gut
tissue they're in heart they're in brain they are in the placenta they're also in penis and they have been detected in there's microplastics in my penis yes there could be studies have shown that and even in newborn babies so when babies are born they have their first bowel movement which is known as
meconium and in the meconium microplastics have been found so that means babies are being exposed to microplastics in utero they're being born with plastics in their body and what's the risk of that?
Well the risk is that they don't go away number one and on a cellular level they're causing inflammation and oxidative stress and oxidative stress is free radical damage and what that means is if you ingest these microplastic particles which everyone is and they're in your tissues and your body cannot get
rid of them then they're basically like the equivalent of a million little fires all over your body and unless you have enough detox capability like antioxidants to get rid of them they're there to stay.
What do you mean by detox capabilities as in my liver and yeah exactly every cell in your body has some antioxidants in it if you if they if you didn't you would be dead because in order to live on this planet and breathe oxygen we need antioxidants to neutralize the free radicals that happen through
cellular respiration right so whenever we breathe oxygen there are free radicals that are created and our cells have naturally in them antioxidants like glutathione and they help to neutralize these free radicals but glutathione is also vital for detoxifying environmental chemicals so if you think about it
how does the body decide what's more important do i neutralize these free radicals because i need to breathe and live or do i have to deal with these chemicals over here i don't know so you're literally being torn your body is torn at this point what to deal with first and usually it's the oxygen i
need to breathe so let me neutralize the free radicals from breathing oxygen then i'll deal with these chemicals later if i have enough left in the tank and most people don't modern lifestyles are resulting in depletion of glutathione our glutathione is being robbed by these microplastics by these parabens
phthalates and other chemicals that you find in consumer products you had to sum up in a sentence what microplastics are doing to us what would that sentence be slowly killing us over time so we're becoming plastic we're actually known as the plasticine epic humankind is more plastic eventually we will become
more plastic than we are humans if we can continue at this rate there have been through over 300 million metric tons of plastics produced i mean that's a really big number but i can't really wrap my head around it and they don't go away they don't go away that's the problem they just continually break
up into smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller fragments a 2024 study on microplastics in human livers kidneys and brains found that all of them contained microplastics but the brain contained 10 to 20 times more than any other organ the brains measured around 0 .5 plastic by weight that's a guardian article
so does that mean 0 .5 percent of my brain is plastic yes and that's because plastic is fat soluble and the brain is mostly fat so microplastics travel there through the bloodstream we inhale them they go to the brain and they can't leave because the brain can the brain does not have the ability to detoxify
itself the way that other tissues do i guess it wasn't expecting the plastic right so it's like who's this i can't get rid of you so just stay but then what is it doing to you over time what is it doing to our brains over time i'm going to throw this away by the way i'm not going to microwave my food
in plastic anymore um what is it doing to our brains over time do you think is there any associations i haven't seen any clear evidence but my hypothesis is that it's increasing the likelihood of cognitive decline and the brain is one of the most important obviously the most important organs in our
bodies and brain problems don't usually show up until you're in your elder years but i'd be interested to know if the rate of dementia if people are getting dementia and other brain related disorders earlier just like cancer i would not be surprised if i saw that we drink out of these um stainless steel
cups here on the dire of a ceo are these okay to be because they're not they're not leaching microplastics into your drink bpa free stainless steel okay they weren't expensive that's good news but um sometimes when i go to shops and you know supermarkets and stuff i grab these plastic bottles full of water
there's been a lot of conversation around plastic bottles and water um are these safe to drink from in your opinion well if you have no other option then that's what you've got and so i don't want people to think i can never drink bottled water ever again or i'm going to die because that's not the case
i myself traveled here i had to drink from bottled water because i didn't bring enough of my own water with me is that something that i'm going to panic about no it's not is it something that i want to do no but i need water so that's my only option but if you are able to avoid that then absolutely
avoid bottled water have there been any studies done on bottled water yeah there have been so many studies showing that bottled water is a major source of microplastics because if you think about it plastic is not meant to be permanent but it kind of is but at the same time there are certain conditions
that promote leaching and one of them is if you put that plastic water bottle in the sun uv causes plastic to break down so that's releasing microplastics just squeezing it physical force is causing microplastic shearing and release but not just that just over time the plastic is just leaching on its
own temperature is another factor so if you leave that in a hot car microplastics if you've ever had a bottle of water sitting in a hot car and you drink it and it tasted like plastic that's because it is it's plastic it's becoming more plastic okay but the microplastics are releasing endocrine disruptors
right it's the same phthalates that we talked about in fragrances are also in plastic water bottles what about these water bottles that a lot of people have now they're kind of like stanley cut star water bottles that are made of this this metal are these better yeah definitely it's the same as these
stainless steel cups yeah okay so everyone should have one of these for their water but not only that it's also more sustainable right because plastic bottles make up the majority of plastic waste in the environment and all of those are breaking up again into smaller and smaller microplastics and nanoplastics
that are basically polluting everything now okay so instead of that plastic container i had this glass container for the microwave and for my food is better perfect okay but what about the lid lid has got these little plastic handles on it yeah so what i would do is take the lid off if you need to heat up
your food okay and what i also do is keep a space between my food and the lid so it's not in direct contact with the plastic how'd you keep a space look just don't fill it all the way to the brim oh okay just keep it just keep a little space okay so that's that's good it's the contact with the plastic
i mean if you need the container and you need a lid to store your food okay this is i mean i have those too so keep the lid just the thing is just try to keep your food from touching it if you can okay um what about this coffee coffee cup i went uh you know you go to a starbucks and you go to a coffee
shop they give you these takeaway coffee cups which are made of like this sort of papery feel good bad indifferent get rid of them they're terrible so they're basically lined with plastic and studies have shown that within 15 minutes of contact with the hot liquid you're getting 25 ,000 micro plastic
particles in that cup and most people some people don't drink their coffee in 15 minutes the lid sit longer and so the longer it sits the more leaching there is and not only that the lid is plastic so as the hot liquid is passing through the lid there could also be leaching of microplastics that plastic
lining also leeches heavy metals so it's there are so many issues with that cup you seem really pissed off with the i'm actually really they're so pervasive and i remember being in germany about 10 15 years ago maybe something like that and coffee to go was new and at the time i come from the us those
have been around forever i was like why is this new i don't understand coffee to go why is that a thing and my husband said it's because we sit down and drink our coffee out of a mug we don't take it to go so this is like appealing to tourists well what's wrong with coffee to go is it the container
they give it it's the container so if you bring your own container starbucks will fill it up or if you bring your own container some shops will fill it up for you and they might even knock off 10 cents because you brought your own container so i'd have to bring something like i guess like this which is a steel
right with a little glass lid right okay so okay it's a plastic lid so if you can take the lid off to drink but if you can't again don't stress out over it okay we've been through some of these things so far just on the consumables okay fine okay so um and last question on consumption stuff is about food
and water should i be filtering my water absolutely absolutely if you live in an area where water has been fluoridated how do i know you've got to check the water report most municipalities have water reports and if not you can go to the ewg the environmental working group they have a water report database
that you can check so just type in your zip code of where you live and it'll tell you what contaminants are found and which ones exceed safe limits and it's very helpful to know what if i get these kind of like you know these little plastic um water filter systems you can get where you put it in the fridge
you pour the water in and then you put like a little filter thing in you replace it and then you pour it in are those good it depends on what type of filter you have okay some of the more mainstream lower cost lower end options do not remove fluoride number one and they don't filter nearly enough chemicals
tap water is a source of hormones so endocrine disruptors pesticides heavy metals fluoride if it's added to the water agricultural runoff there's a bunch of different contaminants in tap water depending on where you live some are worse than others and there have even been tragic instances of lead high
levels of lead because of the lead piping that water is transported through so we've got to be careful with the water that we're using to drink and cook with and so what's a sort of low cost solution to this for people that are concerned about the water that they're consuming and their families are consuming
yeah actually there have been studies showing that you can boil your water so if you boil your water that can actually remove a significant portion of the microplastic pollutions in there because of if you've ever noticed after you've boiled water there's sort of a white crust at the bottom of the pot
that's actually calcium calcification and the microplastics get trapped in that calcified layer but that still doesn't take care of all the other chemicals that are found in tap water so the best option is to filter it some filters are more accessible and affordable than others reverse osmosis removes
the most contaminants but it also requires the most it generates the most wastewater so it isn't the most efficient and it also can remove beneficial minerals which you then have to add back in because it's not good to drink demineralized water over time so there are different options that you can you
can use but the best option you have to filter at some point at some level depending on where you are so check your water and look for a filter so carbon filters are effective for the most part but you want to check to make sure that the filter can remove fluoride as well okay well in the show notes
of today's episode what i'll ask you to do is to just help us put together a bit of a list of things that you approve of relating to the subjects that we've discussed today just you know some of the deodorant stuff that we mentioned and also water filter systems and stuff because i can imagine it can be
quite confusing for people and i imagine most people listening they just want they want to know what the most important simple things that they can can do to have the biggest potential impact and also they're going to be quite cost conscious as we all are about not overspending on things and they don't
have thousands and thousands of pounds but they want to make significant steps forward um i guess to that point then if you were to say to someone what are like the simple free things we can all do or cheap things cost effective things we can do as it relates to our cookware things we're consuming um
to make sure that we're staying as healthy as we possibly can be first thing is to filter your water yeah second thing is to get rid of fragrance products so you're actually saving money by not buying that stuff right so if you can remove that then you're better off thirdly is to cook at home cooking
at home is also significantly more cost effective than getting takeout all the time and you're also saving on a massive amount of toxic exposure that way what about um the types of foods we buy have i got to just be buying organic food if you're able to then it's helpful but if you can't eating an unprocessed
diet as much as you possibly can whole foods single ingredient foods if you choose to eat meat fruits and vegetables things of that nature try to get the least processed option you possibly can and cook at home and if you can cook on stainless steel or cast iron but if not stick is all you have that's
all you've got right so just do what you can with what you've got but try to eliminate the processed food as much as you can what about beauty then so i've got some beauty products here moisturizers got some eyeliners um this is a roll -on geogen you're probably familiar with these yeah that looks like
an antiperspirant an antiperspirant oh yeah right so that's different than deodorant so antiperspirants contain aluminum salts and those physically block sweat ducts and so what that does over time is it prevents you from sweating right that's why it's antiperspirant but the problem with aluminum is that there
have been links to increased risk of breast cancer in young girls who use deodorant because aluminum itself also acts like an estrogen in the body oh god it smells strong wow okay so these roll -on deodorants that are for anyone that doesn't isn't watching it's the one with the ball on it the little
ball thing that you roll the antiperspirant if you can and i know a lot of people have you know sweating concern with with sweating and everything like that but some people online have done armpit detoxes so with apple cider vinegar and bentonite clay you make a little paste out of it smear it under your
arms and that can help to pull out some of these embedded particles in your sweat ducts what is the most compelling study that you heard about as it relates to because i am always here from doing this podcast and reading about this subject matter i am increasingly concerned about you know putting things
under my armpit for a number of reasons it's really hot under there but then it just feels i don't know it does then i read there's stats around breast cancer and i thought gosh i'm it's probably not a good idea to be like lathering chemicals under my under my armpit um what is the most compelling study
you read on this subject that made you think twice about antiperspirants yeah it was the increased risk of breast cancer in young girls that are using these underarm antiperspirants what about these other beauty products then throw that one away um everyday beauty products i think i don't even know
what these products are what i mean that looks like a foundation makeup that you would put all over your face so you go like this yeah okay or a concealer or something like that to help even out your skin tone okay cover up spots right so that goes all over your face right so products that sit on your
skin those are known as leave -on products those comprise a higher risk than something you would rinse off like a soap or a body wash because it's sitting on your skin so the contact time is longer the longer something sits on your skin the longer time it has to penetrate the skin and get absorbed into
your bloodstream lipstick is also a high -risk product if you're using the wrong kind because it's going on your lips and you're having some ingestion so don't use foundation no not necessarily find a safer foundation so avoid avoid the fragrance foundations smells good this one yeah so it's got fragrances
in there i'm sure okay because foundations are usually made of chemicals right chemicals don't always smell good so a lot of manufacturers put fragrance in there to mask the odor even like lip balm i had this conversation with my girlfriend the other day and she was lathering on her lip balm and i was like
i don't know if that's good for you and she was like it just smells so good i was like i just i don't know just you know i have this conspiracy theory about lip balm that i've never shared with anybody which is my girlfriend applies lip balm all the time and her lips get dry often whereas i don't apply
lip balm ever any special occasions no i'm joking i never apply it and my lips don't seem to get dry unless i go on a plane or something but i just wonder sometimes if these cosmetic products are fixing a problem that they're creating yeah i would think so because if you never touched your face what would your
skin be like right some people only use water on their face and i have found personally the more i mess with my face the more products i use the more i end up feeling like i need them because my skin is reacting differently so it's i think it's creating an issue that wasn't there and then comes in and like
oh this is the solution to that it's brilliant if you think about it from a money -making perspective but also if i'm disrupting your hormones with all of these chemicals then i'm more likely to be causing you to have skin flare -ups and skin issues and i'd probably even aging in wrinkles which you're
then going to need to use some of these cosmetic products to solve for right and then they're going to try and sell you some other more invasive procedures down the line i've seen some people who don't use skin products at all and have never used them because of the society they live in and they have unbelievable
remarkable skin and they don't have the flare -ups and all these kinds of things that we have over here so i've always been pretty dubious i think i'm a bit of like an evolutionist i don't know if that even is a thing but just someone who has much more faith in my natural my body's natural systems for dealing
with things than the modern world would lead us to believe like i don't i know that we live in an unnatural world right so there are some things that we need i live in you know we're indoors all day so i probably should be taking some vitamin d for example but outside of that i just don't buy that we
need all of these products like you know shampoos and conditioners and what do you think of shampoos i've got a shampoo brand here um which i just got off the shelf in the local shop are shampoos okay yeah again it depends on what the ingredients are right most shampoos are heavily fragrance and heavily
scented but if you look you'll find some that aren't it smells delicious yeah okay and it's very highly likely that you can become addicted to lip balm and addicted to scent i was you're addicted to lip balm yeah like you said the more you apply the more you need it and then you just keep applying it
so it's every 10 or 15 minutes it felt like at some point and i was using a very heavily scented fragrance lip balm when i was a teenager it just was trendy at school what scent do you have what flavor do you have and everyone was doing it so it just became a thing what about this this is a um this is a tampon what about tampons
i had a conversation on this podcast with a lady who had a toxic reaction to a tampon and lost both of her legs um because of that what's your thoughts on menstrual products generally tampons period pads menstrual products contain some of the worst chemicals that should never be in direct contact with your
reproductive tissues with your vaginal canal they should just should not be there things like benzene there's heavy metals in tampons actually there was a study showing that women who use tampons had higher levels of heavy metals in their body we don't need those down there and fragrances again with the phthalates
they're also found in tampons a lot of menstrual products contain scent maybe that one doesn't but there's a lot that do what's the alternative it's entirely unnecessary the alternative would be to use you can you can find organic cotton tampons tampons are made of cotton right cotton is one of the most
heavily sprayed crops in the world with glyphosate we don't need glyphosate down there the problem is that the vaginal canal is occluded right so it's it's blocked off it's warm it's body temperature and there's also friction so all of these factors increase and drive chemical absorption into the body
and you don't want to be delivering some of these chemicals directly to your reproductive organs you think it's going to have a big impact on fertility i think it could in fact there are a lot of anecdotal reports anyway of people saying that when they switched out their period products and went with more
organic and more sustainable options that their periods became easier some people close to me have pcos i've also got some friends that have endometriosis is there a link between phthalates and sort of you know menstrual products and pcos and endometriosis in your opinion yes there is and there is a link
with pfast chemicals too so these xenoestrogens are exacerbating these conditions because if you think about it the uterus is an endocrine responsive tissue it's a hormonally active it responds to estrogen you're delivering let's say phthalates through tampons directly down there it's going into the circulation and it
bypasses what's known as the portal circulation phase two detoxification by the liver so it bypasses detoxification so you're basically delivering hormonally active chemicals directly where you don't want them to go they cannot be detoxified what about my clothes you mentioned cotton a second ago it
made me think about the clothes that i'm wearing um how do i know if the clothes that i'm wearing are toxin free are they certain clothes that are and aren't that's a really good question organic cotton is one way of knowing if your clothes contain pesticides and certain chemicals that are used in the farming
of cotton but not only that if your clothes are made out of synthetic fibers like polyester nylon and acrylic those release microplastics and they've also been found to contain bpa which is an endocrine disrupter yeah you got you got to check the tag around the side sometimes 95 percent polyester that's
a source of microplastics every time you wash it every time you move there are microplastics breaking off five percent spandex that's also synthetic so you're basically wearing an entirely synthetic shirt what about the chemicals that i wash it in i've got some um this is where i expose that i've never
cleaned a t -shirt properly in my last sugar i've got some fabric cleaner thing here i guess this is probably a source of toxins i'm not getting the hang of this now yeah you're right you you've called it out you call it out exactly right so if i fragrances if i wash my clothes in this and then i put
the clothes on i'm exposing myself to toxins let me see right because it's it's covering your entire body right wherever you have the clothing touching your skin there's some friction there's movement there's body heat there's moisture that's increasing chemical penetration and absorption into your
bloodstream so the solution there is if you like scented laundry care products is again to use essential oils so instead of the dryer sheets that you get at the store those actually just coat your clothing with some type of oily waxy substance that's what makes them feel soft they're not actually softening
your clothes they coat your clothing and so all of that is touching your skin it's rubbing how much of that's getting absorbed right so if you can instead look for wool dryer balls made out of wool people put essential oils in there and let it run through their clothing i am something quite startling
that i read when i was going through all of your work is that beauty and hair products marketed to black women often contain the most toxic ingredients yes that is known as environmental injustice so that's one of the i would say the most tragic circumstances that we're facing as a society is that the people
who are exposed to the most amount of toxins are low income people and people in ethnic groups and so some of these products that are marketed specifically to black girls contains some of the worst ingredients i have ever seen and i think it should be outlawed like you said the fragrances the endocrine
disruptors these harsh detergents some formaldehyde releasers formaldehyde's a human carcinogen what place does it have in a beauty and personal care product it doesn't it needs to be removed there needs to be better regulations and better protection for vulnerable populations i was um doing some research
and i looked at harvard health and it said 50 of products advertised to black women contain endocrine disruptors which are those disruptors that are going to impact their hormones increase their chance of things like cancer infertility etc etc compared to roughly seven percent that are advertised to
white women and these endocrine disruptors can impact fertility and increase their chance of getting cancer why why is that why is that the case i think it has to do a lot with the types of products that certain demographics would gravitate towards so depending on your hair type what kind of products
you might need there really is no explanation to why these toxic chemicals are in in those products in particular in such high numbers that's really the problem is why is it more prevalent for those populations than others and i think this is an ongoing societal issue of environmental injustice and to
a certain extent environmental racism it really is um it really is yeah you said you said it's a form of racism and it's a form of of environmental injustice do people are people aware of this i don't think so i think the vast majority of people are entirely unaware of this and studies show it because there
are studies showing that the earlier you start using cosmetic products the higher your chance of coming down with breast cancer and the people who had the highest prevalence were african -american females so it i think it's a combination of the fact that there is some level of racism environmental injustice
but also a cultural and societal preference for certain products so black women are at the highest risk of getting breast cancer under the age of 40 yes what can be done about that do you think is this uh something that the government have to do something about or is that is it both something that we
have to sort of increase our own public consciousness of and make better choices um is there a an easy solution to fix this i think if we wait for the government to take action we'll be waiting for a long time the cosmetic regulations in the united states were not updated until recently and before that the last
update was when they were actually created nearly a hundred years prior a hundred years had gone by no change to the cosmetic regulations none yet more and more products are being churned out without being tested without knowing what the health effects are and then later on we see increases in all of these
diseases that we've been talking about so i think instead of waiting for the government my goal and my purpose and my passion is to empower people with knowledge and solutions so they can take steps to protect themselves is there a funding issue with black -owned businesses and sort of these black um
beauty products that is causal in all of this in your opinion i think it really comes down to whether or not the creators of the products are aware of these risks and whether or not they are able to formulate in such a way that they don't use these types of ingredients and i think that there has been
a push for clean beauty black -owned clean beauty i've seen it could it get cleaner yes i think so so i think it's only a matter of time before somebody creates it and so i'm looking forward to that at my company flight studio which is part of my bigger company flight group we're constantly looking for ways
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before we start these podcasts what we always do is we light some candles and this is one of the candles that we light um what you mentioned i think you mentioned candles earlier on at the start of the conversation but what's your opinion on candles are they safe depends on what type of candle you have there's
basically a safer alternative for pretty much any product that you can think of so i'm not one that says across the board candles are toxic it's very specific functional candles paraffin wax scented candles which is what you'll see in stores the majority of candles out there are the ones that we shouldn't
be burning so this is a scented candle it doesn't say what type of wax it is so we can be pretty certain that this is a paraffin wax candle at least using the precautionary principle we should assume that something is guilty before it's proven innocent so unless we know for sure that this is not a paraffin wax
candle i wouldn't light it so because if i light it then i'm pushing toxic chemicals into the air exactly so conventional candles there are five main reasons why i would not burn a conventional candle number one is that when you light those candles they liberate carcinogens like benzene toluene and formaldehyde
but not only that ultra fine particles ultra fine particles are some of the most hazardous substances that you can create in your home so ultra fine particles are tiny particles less than 100 microns in diameter excuse me less than 0 .1 microns in diameter 100 nanometers invisible to the human eye tiny
and these particles have the ability to as soon as you inhale them they'll go into your brain they have the ability to do that they also have the ability to go as far down into the lung as one can go all the way down to the alveoli and down in those microscopic structures of the lung that's where gas
exchange happens there's only one cell layer separating the outside from the inside your bloodstream one cell that's not much nothing that's pretty much no separation no protection so if an ultra fine particle can get that down far down into your lungs it's guaranteed into your bloodstream it's getting
all over your body it's causing inflammation and oxidative stress which are the basis of many chronic diseases so ultra fine particles we need to avoid them as much as possible and so one way is to not light a conventional candle number two is that they're also releasing volatile organic compounds right
as i mentioned number three they contain undisclosed fragrance and within fragrance there can be endocrine disruptors carcinogens and allergens so when you light these candles you're getting all of these toxins into your air number four some of the dyes that are used to color candles are carcinogenic
and nobody has any idea is if you burn them what are the health effects of burning these carcinogenic dyes and number five candles are largely unregulated which means that if you were to look at that candle and it says soy blend there can be paraffin wax in there even though it says soy blend a lot
of people think soy blend oh it comes from soy it must be healthier for me so they'll go for that but if it says soy blend one should assume that it's a majority of petroleum derived paraffin wax with a little bit of soy wax in there because the consumer product safety commission which regulates candles
doesn't look at the ingredients in the candle they're concerned with the vessel the container of the candle whether or not it's fireproof and whether or not the lead contains wick or the wick contains lead they're not looking at what's in the wax but studies have shown that when you light these candles
you are liberating a significant number of hazardous chemicals so uh we shall use incense instead incense is even worse and i'm sorry to burst your bubble but incense is used but has been used for thousands of years but incense as we know it now is not the same as incense that was used a thousand years
ago they now contain again phthalates the endocrine disruptors but also the ultrafine particles and studies have shown that incense creates more ultrafine particles in pollutants than cigarette smoke there's an increased risk of cancer because these ultrafine particles are damaging dna damaged dna leads
to mutations mutations can lead to cancer there's an increased incidence of cancer in temple workers so people who are around incense for hours upon hours at a time there's an increased risk of cancer not only that there's an increased risk of cancer almost three fold in children whose parents burned
incense in the home okay wow okay so no incense my house is gonna stink well you can use there's different candles that you can use so based on my research i looked i was really hell bent on finding what is the type of candle that has the lowest emissions the least emissions because let's let's make
it i want to make it really clear anytime you burn something that's not necessarily healthy but does it mean that you can't do whatever no if you find a candle that is low emission like beeswax essential oils wooden or cotton wicks then that's a much better alternative than your conventional paraffin wax
scented candle brightly colored one of the things that i guess is kind of adjacent to this inhaling chemicals is vaping it's really interesting because over the last couple of years vaping has become more and more popular around the world i think cigarettes have declined and especially amongst young
people more and more people in my friendship group anyway are vaping now more than ever what are your thoughts on vaping is that is that harmful yes vaping vaping fluid liquid is a chemical mixture that you are inhaling and these chemicals have not been tested for inhalation safety namely the flavors
and the fragrances that are used specifically the flavors have not been tested for inhalation because they're intended for oral ingestion to be eaten so they're not tested for inhalation safety i used to work in a flavor and fragrance company and that was one of the biggest issues was that people were putting
these chemicals that were not tested into these vapes and the health effects are unknown but now that's been 10 15 years we know that vaping is not healthy shisha you look like a hooker i guess you feel like a hooker in america i mean that's even worse isn't it there is also a lot of risk associated
with with i i i did it earlier and it was like you said it was the equivalent of 100 cigarettes having a shisha which is um annoying because from time to time when i'm in the middle east i'll go to one of these shisha bars whatever with some of my friends but when i read that it's equivalent to like
100 cigarettes i never did that again it's just really not worth it um and speaking of being in the middle east in these sort of big built -up cities one of the things i've thought a lot about more recently is air quality air quality both indoors and outdoors what do i need to know about air quality
indoors outdoors air quality indoors can be up to five times worse than air quality outside which shocks a lot of people that stat comes from the environmental protection agency the epa the reason being is that people are not adequately ventilating their homes and we're doing things like cooking cooking
generates particulate matter too but do we need to stop cooking no but we need to prioritize what's important and what's not important burning candles how important is that to you make sure you're choosing a better candle make sure you're opening the windows indoor air is absolutely imperative if you
want to improve your health you have to clean up your indoor air keep my shoes at the door i heard you say that before this shocks a lot of people but there are simple ways to improve your indoor air quality and one of them is taking off your shoes not wearing your outside shoes in your home that doesn't
mean you have to go barefoot you can wear slippers you can wear other shoes that are specifically meant to stay indoors and that's because shoe soles are vectors for fecal material poop pathogenic bacteria and viruses heavy metals industrial chemicals pesticides things that are outside should stay outside
but didn't we used to live outside as a species right but when we lived outside there weren't all these cars and factories that were spewing all of this exhaust all over the place dust our house on a regular basis you said as well hoover sweep more regularly and you said keep plants in the house plants
yeah yeah indoor plants make sure that if you have indoor plants they can be really beneficial for well -being they can help to purify the air to some extent but they can also harbor mold in the soil so just make sure check your house plants for mold what does humidity of my house matter because a lot
of people are getting these dehumidifiers in their house now yeah humidity can increase the growth of mold and mold is extremely toxic so you want low humidity yes you want to keep your humidity in you know a steady range so have one of those little humidity monitors they're just a couple dollars you
can find them at almost any store and try to keep your humidity um you know on the lower end we don't want it necessarily too high because then that will promote mold growth so what about seasons is are there particular seasons where our houses become more and more toxic definitely during the colder
months people don't open their windows enough some of us are lighting more candles some people like to light wood and burn wood fireplaces and stoves what's wrong with that those create the most ultra -fine particles that you can imagine in your home these uh ultra -fine particles nitrogen dioxide polycyclic
aromatic hydrocarbons these are all carcinogens they are created when you burn things and burning wood in your home is one of the worst things that you can do if you can avoid it if you don't need it to survive consider something else but i've got a chimney right it doesn't always stay in there it doesn't
only go up it can come out so how do i so a better way to keep my home is just by doing like the you know the central heating the hot water central heating yeah underfloor heating right but make sure you open the windows on a regular basis too because you want to exhaust the old stale air and you want
to replace it with fresh air so aside from people who live near a busy highway most people should be able to open their windows even in cold months in germany there's a a practice called luft luften where you open the windows even in the dead of winter and it lets in fresh air it refreshes the stale
air and it makes such a huge difference on our health i was reading about indoor air pollution and there's some some research done by the world health organisation that says household air pollution was responsible for 3 .2 million global deaths per year this is because household pollution can cause deadly
health problems such as pneumonia pulmonary disease lung cancer strokes and cardiovascular disease the combined effects of outdoor air pollution and household air pollution are associated with 6 .7 million global premature deaths annually according to the world health organisation i mean it's difficult
isn't it living in cities with so much outdoor pollution as well and there's not really a solution to that i mean we could go around wearing like masks or something all day but it's just not gonna it's not gonna be a good way to live right i mean if you're able to get an air purifier that can help with your
indoor environment but the key is to remove the sources of pollution as much as you can just try not to create it and then you don't have to spend as much time trying to clean it up you mentioned earlier the body has a antioxidant called glutathione is it possible to increase my levels of this compound
if it's good for me is there something i can do there's so much you can do okay there's so much you can do number one you can exercise exercise increases glutathione very simple just exercise move your body and where it's normally produced in the liver and kidneys and the third highest amount of glutathione
in the body is in the testes and the ovaries because it plays a vital role in protecting our reproductive organs from toxicity and ensuring fertility it's a chemical it is technically a chemical it's made out of three amino acids glutamate cysteine and glycine and we all have it everyone has glutathione
some people have more some people have less it really just depends on your genetics some people just genetically make more of it than others and if i make more of it then my body's going to be less toxic is that a simple way of thinking about it yes very simplistically right but that that's not counting
your lifestyle okay and what about my lifestyle could make it worse and lower what can what can impact my glutathione levels what can make it non -stick cookware the heavily fragrance products eating ultra processed foods not exercising so being stagnant not moving enough that all of that reduces your
glutathione not sleeping well what about alcohol alcohol absolutely depletes glutathione we know that alcohol targets the liver glutathione detoxifies alcohol if you don't have enough glutathione you can't detoxify alcohol alcohol can cause cancer so if i'm drinking heavily and i'm also consuming a lot
of these other toxic chemicals because of just my everyday life then my glutathione is going to be depleted because it's so focused on the alcohol detoxifying the alcohol right that it won't there won't be enough left to detoxify the rest of my body is that a simple way to think about it right and all
the other chemicals that you're being exposed to okay so you want to keep your glutathione levels high right i've read that the healthy glutathione levels in an adult is 553 which is 90 millimoles per liter of total glutathione in their blood so i want to i want to increase my glutathione levels to
make sure that i've had a better natural defense to all of these toxic chemicals in my life i'm going to start exercising i'm going to avoid ultra processed foods i'm going to eat whole foods yes whole foods but specifically sulfur rich foods because glutathione contains cysteine which contains sulfur
and sulfur is the part of the glutathione molecule that's doing the work that's protecting us so the more sulfur you can give your body the more building blocks it has to make glutathione so we eat things like leafy greens broccoli cruciferous vegetables meat eggs dairy can also help to increase it
there's even some studies showing that if you consume whey protein it can help to increase glutathione by supplying the amino acids needed to to produce it and matcha green tea is also a really good source of glutathione building blocks but i think what we need to do is also remove the chemicals that are depleting
our glutathione and that's through choosing better products not stressing as much and then adding on how can we build and add more glutathione with the lifestyle changes making sure you get adequate sleep if you don't sleep well enough that's going to impact the amount of glutathione you have as well
interesting cigarettes cigarettes absolutely get rid of cigarettes cigarettes deplete glutathione you mentioned matcha that i am i'm one of the um owners i'm an investor in a matcha company a matcha green tea company what's your opinion of i mean i'm exposing my bias here obviously but what's your opinion of matcha i
think matcha is amazing if you get the right type of matcha you want to look for organically grown matcha look for ones that are tested for heavy metals because heavy metals can accumulate in tea plants that's just naturally occurring so you want to look for matcha that's been tested and because you're
consuming the entire leaf it's important to look for the cleanest matcha you can get but there are so many benefits to matcha like the fact that it helps you increase glutathione is i'm sold i'm sold on it do you drink matcha i do but we also want to avoid not adding dairy to a matcha i know that a lot
of people like to drink matcha lattes but there's actually studies showing that the casein protein can decrease the absorption of some of the beneficial compounds in matcha so if you can drink it the traditional way in japan is just water no sugar nothing just matcha and water the company i'm referring
to are um obviously i've got to disclose my there's probably i've probably got to say hashtag ads hashtag sponsored whatever um i'm an investor in a company it's called perfect ted and it's absolutely exploded in the uk i spoke to them this morning actually and they told me that the sales have increased
five x since last year because i think people are looking to shift away from some of the canned energy products and there's a lot of sort of energy benefits with matcha and now if you go to like a joe in the juice or any of these like blank street coffee or tesco or whatever you can find um their products
in there and it seems to be like there's a bit of a revolution going on with energy and matcha which is very very exciting because i've for many years i was drinking some i don't want to name any names but i was drinking some of these energy products that you'll find and um i just felt bad and there's
something about the like energy curve of matcha which i i think is better i i feel like i'm less susceptible to crashes with matcha i don't know if there's any support there but it's good to hear that it's also um it increases my glutathione levels which will help me have less of a toxic body yes absolutely
because it is in and of itself a strong antioxidant with anti -cancer properties and it can help to increase the production of energy in our cells and so one of the things that is required to create glutathione is atp and a lot of these environmental chemicals are targeting the mitochondria which are the powerhouses
of the cell that make ATP so if you're knocking down the energy center of the cell and it's not able to make ATP you're not able to detoxify you you will feel sluggish and over time diminish the quality of your life what is the most important thing we haven't spoke about today that you're most passionate
about is there anything that we missed that you think is particularly important to the many people that are listening right now i think the one thing that i want to emphasize more than anything is to not fear chemicals i want there to be empowerment and not fear because chemicals are all around us all
the time whether or not you're aware of it but not everything is going to kill us so being in a state of confidence and knowing that hey i've done taken some very simple steps that i know will have a big impact on my life in the long term that's what i want everyone to walk away with i'm just thinking
about the simple changes that i can make immediately i think the the big things that i have as takeaways are get rid of the antiperspirants that i've been using get rid of the deodorants that i've been using transition away from the non -stick pans stop consuming anything plastic if it's especially if it's
been heated so like plastic cups from coffee shops and plastic trays that you microwave things in my water you said that was really critical yeah air quality air quality it's quite difficult to do something about air quality but i guess the simple thing is to open the windows and doors more often clean the house
keep the shoes at the door get rid of the scented and fragrance products the scented plug -ins the air fresheners just thinking about my dog i was like you know i do love my dog but i don't want to be what's your thoughts on pets well pets can actually increase the amount of pollutants in your air but again if you're
cleaning your home on a regular basis it's not a problem there's so many benefits to having pets and cleaning the pets as well yeah yeah so maybe consider wiping off uh their paws when they come back in from a walk is there anything else that you're you're working on at the moment or any research that you're
particularly curious about any hypotheses you have that are bubbling away in your mind about toxins in our environment that you're yet to maybe share with the world um i'm waiting to find out more about microplastics and the diseases that are associated with microplastics i think that is the next emerging
toxin of the year and i think more awareness needs to be brought around microplastics and just more research is urgently needed it's doing i think yeah you make a really good point that none of us are ever going to reach perfection and that shouldn't necessarily be the goal but the a worthy goal and a goal
that we can all aim for is just to be better in some way as it relates to um our environment to improve our environment in even small ways and even the small improvements as you've said when you talked about the dose um and you talked about uh how these things compound in our bodies over time even small
improvements made today can have big impacts over the long term and so small improvements small things that we can change and not getting bogged down because our life in our environment is so full of toxins and it's always going to be really there's not a scenario we're going to live in where it's not the case
but small things we can do can have big impacts and as you said you you've made changes to your life in it it's been the causal factor of you having a family which is which is which is a beautiful thing um we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next
guest not knowing who they're leaving it for the question that's been left for you is if you could solve any problem in the world but only one problem what would it be the problem of toxins that's too easy isn't it that's too easy of course it would be toxins hands down immediately if i could just remove
all of these toxic chemicals from our environment and just eliminate them not send them into outer space but just remove them from the face of the earth and just have them cease to exist that would be the most amazing achievement i could ever imagine and what would life be like in such a world i imagine
it to be like a utopia people aren't sick people aren't ill people are well and happy and thriving and just radiating radiant that's how i see it dr yvonne burkhardt where can people find you if they want to learn more about your work what's the best place for them to to go to get um yeah more information i
have a website dr yvonne burkhardt .com i also have a newsletter that i send out called low talks talks and you can also find me on instagram at dr yvonne burkhardt and i also have a youtube channel where i love to do deep dives and get really really geeky and nerd out on one topic at a time okay i'll
link all of that below so everyone can find you um thank you so much for the work that you do so incredibly important and it's so incredibly illuminating because it's got it so mad that we um that it's only recently in the last couple of years that these conversations have emerged the things about microplastics
and endocrine disruptors and the length this has to fertility our health abecision all of these kinds of things it's so crazy that this conversation's only emerged in the last couple of years because growing up there was no mention of this in my household there was absolutely no mention and i just wonder
how life could have been different for myself but also for so many millions of people all around the world if we were aware of this information it's not to say again that we can we can live perfect lives and that's never the goal it's never my goal my goal is just to have more access to information so i
can um make small steps and often low cost steps in the right direction and if that increases my probability of having kids which is the season of life that i'm in now and increases the probability that my kids are healthy um when they grow up then that is an amazing thing and that is the work you're
doing you're doing an amazing thing so thank you so much dr yvonne burkhardt and i highly recommend everyone goes and checks out your youtube channel it will send you down a really important rabbit hole um because you make really really accessible great videos on that channel um so thank you so much
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