There's two things cops hate for things to change and for things to stay the same.
Most of the cops in the field are going to have to change the way their skill set is shaped because it's going to be a little bit more investigative.
It's going to be a little bit more nuanced.
It's not going to look the same anymore.
Are people just going to start seeing drones flying around?
Is that where we are?
You hear a gunshot go off and the drone finds a shooter getting into a car and driving off and then pursuing the vehicle.
It's kind of almost hard to see that it isn't inevitable.
We can't do that with a helicopter today, unless you've just kept five helicopters up 24-7, and that's just not sustainable.
What advice would you give to founders who are less interested in optimizing ad clicks and more interested in actually building something that helps first responders and save lives?
My advice?
American law enforcement is being asked to do more with less.
Departments are short staffed, officers are burning out and the complexity of the job keeps growing.
But the technology available to public safety has never been more powerful.
Drones that respond to 911 calls before a patrol car can leave the station.
License plate readers that flag an Amber Alert vehicle in real time.
Body-worn camera analytics that detect burnout before an officer hits a breaking point.
These aren't prototypes.
They're deployed today in departments across the country.
The harder question is how you actually get this technology into the field.
Law enforcement moves slowly by design.
Trust is built over years, not product cycles.
And the gap between what's technically possible and what departments will adopt is wide.
Colonel Jeffrey Glover and Rahul Sidhu speak with David Yulevich about rebuilding public safety for the 21st century.
I'm on the board of Flock Safety.
There's other companies like Skydio that make drones.
I'm the recipient of constant notifications from you guys.
Hey, we found a kidnapped child.
We use the technology in this way.
We were able to de-escalate the situation.
I remember one story where someone called 911 and said hey, there's a guy in the alleyway with a shotgun.
Well, you can imagine how a police officer would respond to that call.
But it turned out the drone provided situational awareness and said wait, there's just a janitor with a broom.
That's not a guy with a shotgun.
And it totally de-escalates the situation.
So it was really incredible.
Anything else we should know Rahul, about?
Where are we in the sort of nationwide in the state of drone deployment?
Are people just going to start to see drones flying around?
Is that where we are?
Yeah, look, drones are they're flying robots.
And, as we see, robotics sweep every industry.
Like all these industries are looking for ways to either automate things, make things more efficient, make things more effective.
Drones are a similar piece of that.
And in public safety, the short answer is we are going to see more drones.
We're going to see also potentially more hostile drones that we have to be prepared for.
You're going to see more police and fire department drones responding to fire calls across the country and Flock safety.
It's not just about drones.
For us, we have multitudes of sensors in the communities.
We have license plate reading cameras.
We have gunshot detection capabilities.
All of this is coming together.
All this data where you're able to determine oh, that's an Amber Alert vehicle, and the drone takes off and chases the Amber Alert vehicle.
Or you hear a gunshot go off and the drone finds you know a shooter getting into a car and driving off, and then pursuing the vehicle, even on the highways, with DPS.
That's something that it's kind of almost hard to see that it isn't inevitable.
We can't do that with a helicopter today, unless you've just kept five helicopters up 24-7, and that's just not sustainable.
This is the only way to actually achieve that level of safety.
I joked earlier that it's a bad time to be an enemy of America from Maduro to Almencho to the Ayatollah but it sounds like it's going to be a bad time to be a criminal here in America.
Colonel Glover, talk about some of the other technologies and capabilities that you've been able to deploy.
That really changes the equation for law enforcement either helping the officers or helping the general public or, in most cases, both.
Yeah, so there's a couple of different things that we're doing, sort of like an ecosystem or platform within the agency that we've done.
One piece of it is being able to make sure that we're giving the officers what they need to do to be successful, but it's also about their own mental health and well-being.
So we utilize by Tanya, Heal the Heroes.
It's basically brain scan sort of start off the day and everything to figure out exactly.
You know how are you doing.
You know temperature check.
Then they go out, they can do their shift.
Behind the body-worn camera.
We have analytics at Trulio that's running behind the body-worn camera just to see for the behavior and interaction.
Part of that was you know, looking at you can do a scorecard for how the trooper is interacting with the public, but it also gets a little bit of information on how the public is interacting with that trooper to see if they're combative or not.
And it can flag the situation as well for the supervisor.
Outside of that, you have what essentially is it helps with them being able to have that feeling of I have a little bit of a layer of protection because with this it's going to flag for the burnout as well.
And that was one of the things that the associations and speaking with them about this was that, from the advent of our body-worn camera and being able to take that technology, run those analytics behind it, be able to check for those that had burnout Where, if we need to pull them from the field, if we need to do something a little bit different, we started instituting well checks and sabbaticals for those that are at the 15 and 25 year mark to be able to help optimize their performance.
So that way, when they go out in the field, they feel good about what they're doing and they have job satisfaction.
Absolutely.
It's been amazing to see the public sentiment shift over things like body cams.
At first, people were very against body cams.
Even some of the officer unions were against body cams.
Then they realized, wait a minute, you see all the dumb things that the criminals do.
So that's pretty good.
It protects our officers, but it also provides you game tape, gives you footage.
It could be coaching.
Mental health services.
Make sure that somebody who needs a break gets a break and really incredible technology.
I remember the same discussion happened with Taser.
So we see this over and over again with technology, that we sort of have to go through a hype cycle of reaction.
But it's great to see those things being deployed.
Do you want to talk a little bit real quickly about... the intelligence gathering apparatus.
I think that you've mentioned it a couple of times that we shifted law enforcement to really making sure that we have all the information we need.
Talk about the Department of Public Safety, how you're working to really make sure that officers have the best information available.
Yeah, so one of the things that we're leaning into as well is that we have the Arizona Counterterrorism Center, the ACTIC.
So with the fusion centers around the US, are collaborating and working together in tandem to make sure that they're sharing information.
You have the TRX program, which a lot of us are doing for FIFA right now, because that's the big event that's coming up, as well as the Olympics.
But one of the things in Arizona that I'm doing is I'm leaning heavily into making sure that we're having sort of an international presence as well.
So we have a lot of partnerships going with different groups especially.
You know, of course, we are a border state.
So we have the state of Sonora, Mexico, that's right next to us.
We're looking at being able to have the ability of having intelligence officers from Mexico, from the UAE, from Liberia, from different parts of the world, because the world is getting a lot smaller.
We all know that crime is happening everywhere.
Being able to Condense that down and distill it to where we can have good information sharing.
That's unclassified.
To just be able to share one another on trends and being able to backstop that with some of the technology and AI helps us with being able to actually stop a lot of the trends before they start.
Absolutely.
We saw very sadly in Austin that global events have local repercussions.
So I think we've seen in New York City that their counterterrorism work at the NYPD has been very successful and excited to hear that you're bringing that kind of a program into Arizona.
Rahul.
You started out as a policeman, as a paramedic.
Now that you've seen all this technology, some of which you've brought to bear in public safety, do you think there's still great opportunities in public safety?
What advice would you start to give to founders who are less interested in optimizing ad clicks and more interested in actually building something that helps first responders and save lives?
What would you say?
I already know great founders that are working in public safety.
It's funny.
The colonel was talking about tracking the performance of the members of his department and burnout.
There's a founder here, Ben Curley, in the audience that is the CEO of Sharp Performance that does exactly that.
You should introduce you after this.
You haven't met him already.
We're already talking.
All right, good.
But there's plenty of great founders out there that are tackling public safety.
My advice to them is, look, It comes off as very intimidating.
I'm sure the colonels heard this saying.
But there's two things cops hate for things to change and for things to stay the same.
And so it feels like a very narrow thread that you have to hit.
But the reality is that if you can picture something that feels like an inevitability, in the same way that we talk about drones AI, some of these things recognize that change will come, no matter what.
It'll come because it's the best thing for them.
It's the best thing for the communities.
It's the best thing for the country.
And just take it upon yourself to be the person that brings the change.
Don't be intimidated by it just because they're cops.
And then if you do it, I would say spend a lot of time with the cops too.
Just like Dr Karp said previously, it is hard if you don't know what they've been through, what it feels like to be on the beat.
Spend time, do some ride-alongs, really get an understanding of it.
Be a reserve cop if you want to, really get into it.
And that'll really help you not only speak the language, but know what to build for them.
Colonel Glover, any final words that you want to share for the people that want to work with law enforcement, work with public safety officials?
What's the best way to partner and work with you?
Well, back to Raul's point, it really is jump in.
I mean, jump in, really engage, connect.
You're going to find there's a lot of law enforcement leaders that are looking to figure out the best ways of implementation and trying to get ahead of the curb with technology.
We know that it's going to be something that's going to really dominate this profession over the next 10 years is that We're going to see such a shift and change that most of the cops out in the field are going to have to change the way their skill set is shaped, because it's going to be a little bit more investigative.
It's going to be a little bit more nuanced.
You're going to have a different framework of being able to work with in terms of your mindset, because it's not going to look the same anymore.
10 years from now, it may not be about kicking in doors and other things.
It's going to be looking at the technical aspects of this video you just received and looking at AI and certain things that are going to come up from a fraud standpoint as well.
And so it's going to be very nuanced in that way.
And so every leader is looking at how do we make this adjustment?
How do we become a little bit more flexible and adaptable to what's going to be the need?
Awesome.
Well, thank you both gentlemen.
Appreciate the work you do out in the field as technologists.
And thanks for being with us here today.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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