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Summer S'mores with Conan and the Chill Chums a six-part series with Conan O'Brien, Sona Movsesian and Matt Gourley.
Let's get started.
Hey there, and welcome to episode three of Summer S'mores 2025.
I got the chill chums here, Matt Gourley, Sonam Evsesian.
Yeah.
And as I said before, we are in the backyard of our Larchmont podcast studios.
Yeah.
It's very nice back here, and we are protected, of course, by beautiful L.L.
Bean umbrellas.
We have just a great show planned.
This is our fifth Summer S'mores, I was figuring.
We've been a podcast for seven years, but we started after summer the first year and we did a deep dive at Dana Carvey the second year.
Then we did an in-studio one of these, and then we started doing them outside.
And when did we start going after s'mores?
I mean, saying, are s'mores good?
Are s'mores bad?
What do you think?
The first one.
Was it?
The first one.
I was very skeptical about s'mores.
I thought that it was a snack that people pretended to like, but they don't really like it.
And it inspired, I think, the greatest division in America we've yet seen.
I'm hard-pressed to think of a more divisive moment in recent American politics.
Yes.
I agree.
And it really got everybody electrified.
S'mores people are just nuts for s'mores.
Yes.
So it was just a simple misunderstanding.
But I should probably bring up that we have a special sponsor today.
Is that right?
Who are you looking to?
Yeah.
I'm asking.
Eyes over here.
You're just sitting there and I keep waiting for you to say I'm filling time here saying some stuff.
I think I'm doing a great job, because when I fill time, it's when other people you know give the greatest speech of their life.
I think I'm doing my part.
And then I think you're going to come in at one point and go hey Conan, I got some interesting news for you.
But that part never comes.
I didn't want to step on your 15 minute tirade about conduits last night.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, Conan, I have something interesting for you.
Oh, you do?
This is great.
When we first called Ripley's Believe It or Not.
Okay.
What is it?
Honestly, nothing.
I just said it because I felt like someone needed to say it.
But, you know.
When you said I have something important to say, I was fascinated.
Come on.
I was.
I say important things sometimes.
I say interesting things.
Just find one time.
Try to say something important right now.
Yes, let's say it.
Off the top of your head.
Off the top.
Who can ever do this off the top of their head?
How about I love my children?
I mean, that's pretty important.
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow, so defensive.
Yeah, I love my children.
I do love them.
When was the last time you saw them?
Six months.
You know, something important.
The...
I love s'mores.
That's just an important aspect.
You do love s'mores.
I remember the first time I had s'mores.
Was it at that summer camp you went to?
You went to an Armenian school, yes?
I did.
I went to an Armenian school.
Shout out, Ms.
Robian.
What's up?
No one else cares.
Wow, the boards are lighting up. let's bring her out no but this was this was girl scouts and then i because you know even armenians like we're not i don't know for s'more people like we don't go camping at least my family didn't go camping so i went with girl scouts and someone handed it to me and i was like what is this it's a s'more it's short for you when you get one you want some more and i was like i do want some more Hence the addiction.
Hence, yeah.
Wow.
Freaking love them.
Yeah.
I call them no mores.
Okay.
I want no more of these.
Celeste.
Yeah.
A lot Celeste.
I think we've got a very good comedy routine going that will rival who's on first.
Look it up, kids.
It's really funny.
I make a lot of references that are at least 50 years old.
You really do.
Some as long as 100 years old.
Yeah.
But that's another matter.
I think you have something important to say.
I really do.
Me?
Yeah.
Is it about Hershey's?
Yeah.
Well, we do have this whole smorgasbord.
Yeah.
Why can't you say it?
I didn't know.
We're sponsored by Hershey's.
There you go.
There we go.
They sponsored it because they're a very key ingredient in s'mores.
But they've also got a new line of perfectly suited s'mores chocolates here.
Look at this.
They've got Hershey's Caramel S'more.
That actually sounds really good.
Oh, wow, look, it's... Thank you, Chills.
All right, well, show us what we got here.
I'm so happy.
This is very exciting.
Hershey's, of course, a vital ingredient in a s'more.
You know what you're not going to find in a good s'more?
Some dark, bitter chocolate that has a panda on it from Norway.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's got to be Hershey's.
What is that?
It's caramel.
Oh, God.
Ah, it's the best day of my life.
What is this?
Oh my god, get it out of the sun.
I want it to live forever.
Oh my god, we got a letter okay okay, wait for it to you know, this is important.
You know um, and can i say something?
We've had many different people uh, you know, sign up to advertise on the podcast but hershey's, this is a bond.
This is a bond that goes way back hershey's, because summer i mean summer camp to me meant hershey's.
You know, it really did.
It went down the wrong pipe.
I can't breathe anymore.
I'm really serious, Are you okay?
I mean, you can't joke about that.
Do you need medical attention?
Drink the water.
I do.
Okay.
Well, we'll take care of it later.
We actually have a doctor here.
Oh, Dr. Arroyo, step in.
Hi.
Are you okay?
Yeah, I'm fine.
All right.
Because if you can laugh, you can breathe.
Okay.
You're right.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
Apparently no one's breathing here.
Here's a letter from Hershey's.
Yeah.
Letter from Hershey's.
Let's go.
Dear Sona and Gourley, Hershey's is thrilled to finally sponsor summer s'mores with our favorite chill chums.
We know some people not a lot who aren't chill enough to appreciate what makes this classic campfire treat so great.
But you both get it.
Whether it's with your family, your friends or your fellow podcast co-hosts.
When you are making s'mores, you are making memories.
As a token of our appreciation, please accept these sweet gifts from all of us at Team Coco, O-A.
And let us know what you think of our new Hershey's caramel made for s'mores.
But please make it clear to Mr O'Brien we are sorry, but we only sponsor s'mores lovers and chill chums.
Let's s'more more.
Andrew Arechambo, president of Chocolate, the Hershey Company.
He's like Willy Wonka.
He's the president of chocolate at Hershey's.
You got a hand-signed letter from the president of chocolate.
Do you know that he wears a giant top hat and he's holding a contest to see who will take over Hershey's?
And he has a glass elevator.
Do you know that he was written by Roald Dahl and that this is me doing some sort of weird parody of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
Except it's Hershey's?
You know, you're really bringing us down.
Sorry.
This is so cool.
Can I also say I mean, this is a very serious thing and I know they're sponsoring us, but if you give me s'mores that don't have Hershey's in it, I won't eat it.
Yeah, that's good to know.
Look at that.
Our names are on here.
What's that?
Is that their mascot?
Is it a chocolate bar?
What are you holding in your hand?
Yeah, it looks like a little chocolate bar.
All right, here's a question I want to ask.
Robert Smichel and I used to talk about this back at Saturday Night Live which is products that want you to eat them.
Do you know what I mean?
Isn't that a strange concept?
So that's a Hershey bar that's saying, eat Hershey bars.
And he is a Hershey bar.
I'm so delicious.
That's a strange thing.
He longs for himself to be devoured.
It's just a strange concept.
That's his job in life.
If no one eats him, then he just goes bad and you throw him away.
Are those pajama bottoms?
It's his purchase.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
I'm just going through my swag.
Sorry.
You got some serious swag there.
This is amazing.
I love swag.
Wow, this is incredible.
Did you get anything?
Well, I probably shouldn't say this on camera, but Hershey's sent me a completely refurbished Cobra.
You mean the snake?
What do you mean?
No, it's a version of a Mustang Cobra.
It's refurbished 1969.
I think it's got probably a street value or collector value of over $700,000.
They sent it to me, and it says Hershey's chocolate on the back.
And so thank you Hershey's, for the.
I mean, it's a, it's a classic car and they use seven helicopters to bring it in.
And why didn't they just drive it in?
You know, I don't know.
OK, because they're just three blocks away.
I don't know.
But no, I did not get anything from Hershey's.
But you know what?
Hershey's already gave me a gift.
Years and years of memories, happy memories.
And I just thought of that.
I didn't say on my feet because I'm sitting, but that's pretty good.
Can I eat a s'more?
Yeah, of course you can.
How do we eat s'mores?
Can we eat the s'mores?
It's play, everybody.
Yeah, so we have special torches just for Son and Corley.
These are Hershey torches, you said?
There you go, special torches.
Oh, this is amazing.
To make your s'mores.
Conan Hershey's wanted you to know that they specifically did not sponsor you because you've said that you didn't like s'mores.
Can I keep these?
That's right.
You get to keep those.
That made it all worth it.
That's right.
That's great.
You guys have laser beams now.
Oh, smell it.
I believe I have identified the flaw with the s'more, and this may cause some controversy.
I was thinking about it.
I love Hershey chocolate.
I love graham crackers.
It's the marshmallow.
It's the marshmallow.
Sona, do not get your hand in the way of that.
I know.
This is really... You've got a burning marshmallow.
I do.
Oh, my God.
It's on a wooden tray, too.
This is not good.
Is it still on fire?
This is not good.
Everybody... It's out.
Hold on.
Everybody evacuate.
Whose idea was it to give Sona... I got it.
I got it.
Don't hold it.
I don't know how else to do it.
I really don't know what else to do.
I mean, someone gave me a blowtorch.
My house burned down.
Her house burned down in the Altadena fires and you are creating this triggering situation for her where she's supposed to hold a fire and shoot it herself.
I'm so scared.
Blake, get in there and help her.
Look, I could do it for you here.
I'm sorry.
How are you going to do it without holding it?
It's easy.
You have to hold it.
He's not a real person, Sona.
Hold my mic.
I want it more.
Look how good that is.
No, I need it more melted.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Look how easy this is.
Now Chill shows up with a fire extinguisher.
Today's the day I brought my kerosene rag collection.
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Yeah.
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Hey, time for a shout out to Hershey's and a huge thanks to them for sponsoring Summer S'mores.
You have to admit, kind of a perfect sponsor for Summer S'mores.
Yes.
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I think the world.
Now you can s'more like never before with Hershey's milk chocolate with caramel.
These are people that won a long time ago and they're not satisfied.
They keep thinking of new ways.
To delight us!
Yeah.
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They did this, they engineered it with s'mores in mind.
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And I say that with great sincerity.
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Boy, you laugh when no one else did.
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Only a fool... could resist a s'mores like this.
I think they're talking to me.
Yeah.
I'm not a fan of a s'mores, but you know what?
They're tempting me a little bit with this new chocolate confection they've arranged.
It's an indulgent new way to make summer memories.
Try Hershey's Milk Chocolate with Caramel today.
S'more more.
S'more more.
Is it good?
Yes.
Do you like the caramel?
I love it so much.
Hershey's, you've done it again.
We thought you had perfected the chocolate bar, which goes way back to.
I don't know the history of Hershey's, so I'm going to make it up.
Elijah P. Hershey came to this country in a chocolate canoe.
In 1881.
And he created the chocolate factory for Hershey's in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And since then, Hershey's been the chocolate bar that Americans love.
Famously handed out in World War II to G.I.s.
It became kind of a calling card saying America is sweet and tasty.
It was actually 1883.
Was it 18?
And what did I guess?
1881.
Isn't that crazy?
And I know it's not Elijah P. Hershey, but I bet it's something close.
It's Milton.
Milton.
Oh, it's an even better name.
Milton.
Oh, Milton.
Milton created the chocolate bar accidentally.
Yeah.
Why?
How?
Oh, it's a crazy story.
It's really insane.
What is the story?
Oh, wait till you hear it.
We're waiting.
Well, I think for help, we're going to bring in Dr. Arroyo.
Dr. Arroyo, come on in.
Dr. Arroyo.
Wait, you outsourced your improv to your doctor?
Dr. Arroyo, tell them how Milton Hershey accidentally invented the chocolate bar.
This is the kind of thing I could improvise like a madman in my 20s and 30s, but those days are gone.
So take it from me, will you, doctor?
Sure.
Well, it's a fascinating story.
Well, I had that part already.
Oh, very good.
This thing's a real corker.
Tell them, Dr. Arroyo.
Well, Milton Hershey came to this country in a canoe.
I did that.
You did that.
All right.
He stuck to cold water to keep it going.
And he had a dream.
And his dream was to make the best chocolate he could.
And he succeeded and um what, i'm being told to stand closer to you uh, by by your directors and i hope that's okay.
You're enjoying that chocolate.
I ate this whole thing and you know what.
It's nice and i like chocolate when it's a little bit melty and because it's warm out here.
Yes, i'm still wearing corduroy because i think it looks good.
I die for my public.
Um, i'm now eating this and it's pretty much liquid.
What was?
What was the city of hershey called before hershey got there?
I think it was called Wonderful Town.
People love that name.
Where's the torch?
I'm going to do another one.
They took yours away.
I promise.
By the way, I fully endorse playing with torches on a hot day.
That's right in my wheelhouse.
Are these for anybody or just for the talent?
I think not for you, Dr. Royal.
Very good.
We don't want you on a sugar rush when you're doing brain surgery in an hour for someone who can't afford real brain surgery.
Well, that was wonderful of them to send all this nice stuff.
It really was.
You could perceive it as kind of an ad, but I don't.
I think it's just a gesture of goodwill.
And that's lunch taken care of.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We don't need to eat lunch because we've just had, well, you've had s'mores.
I've just had several Hershey's chocolate bars at this point.
And they're delicious.
It reminds me of my old camp, Craggett Mountain Farm in Freedom, New Hampshire.
That's where I used to go.
I loved it there.
And I used to wear very short shorts because that was the style in the 70s.
You ever thought about bringing those back?
You have very long, skinny legs.
What I will tell you is that I once took a really long trip in an aluminum canoe.
Oh, yeah, we've heard a few times.
And, man, that fried me up.
Oh, man, I guess we've done this for seven years.
Oh, my God.
There's got to be something.
This is bad.
What's that?
This is bad.
Why is it bad?
Oh, it's a mess.
It's such a mess.
I'm really questioning your choice of wardrobe today.
This was such a bad idea.
Why did you wear a white jacket on s'more making day?
I didn't know someone was going to hand me a torch.
Look at Conan and I planned ahead.
We're literally wearing brown.
Yeah, I know, but... Jesus, you look like you just tended to someone in a collar award.
Hey, guys, we are a s'mores.
What?
Chocolate marshmallow graham cracker.
Hey, that's something that could probably make it into the actual podcast.
That's good.
That's great.
I like that.
Yeah.
No, I'm serious.
I do.
I want to double down on this.
I think the marshmallow is the flaw.
I agree, though, because I like chocolate.
I like graham cracker and the marshmallow is this gooey.
Do you need more sugar on a Hershey bar?
I don't think so.
Well, is there any reason we can't have you try just the chocolate and the graham cracker?
I'll roast some chocolate and we don't have to even need to roast it.
Just hand me a chocolate bar.
What are you going to roast over a fire if you don't have a marshmallow, though?
I'm thinking of something right now.
What?
Me?
No, that's a terrible joke to make.
I don't want to see you burn over a flame.
Man, I'd love to see her burn over a flame.
Oh, wow, you're a really top chef.
God, you are torching the hell out of that thing.
It's got to penetrate, you know?
Don't mess with my technique.
Okay.
That penetrate.
Yeah, man.
I know what you're saying.
Yeah, I am.
Oh, wow.
What a fancy plate.
I wonder who makes it.
I wonder if they're allowed to be mentioned in this segment.
I don't know how things work.
I don't know what the rules are.
Well, I mean, there's logos everywhere.
Tanisha, who runs our advertising world, is wearing those reflective sunglasses that the guard wears in Cool Hand Luke, and it's terrifying.
Every time I wonder if I'm handling the product correctly or saying the right things.
I look at her and she's staring back at me with reflective shades, like I'm gonna die.
Oh, that's great.
I don't miss the marshmallow.
Hey, here's my suggestion.
When you're gonna make a s'more this summer, think about not putting the marshmallow on.
I do think that's the flaw.
Maybe this is a new dessert we've created.
Instead of s'more or sless, it's just some.
You know, I think that's a terrific thing you just said.
S apostrophe O-M-E.
Yeah.
I got chocolate on my pants.
What's that?
I got chocolate on my pants.
Yeah, of course you did.
Yeah.
I have eaten with you all around the world, Sona, and all across the nation on our tour.
I never saw you not spill something on yourself.
No, you're making, are you doing a bit?
I'm not doing a bit.
I'm a messy eater.
You always spill on yourself.
I love eating, and I want it in my body as quickly as possible.
Right.
And sometimes some of it comes off and on me.
And we know what spilling is all about.
Yes, we know the concept of spilling.
But I just... I really... I think it comes from my enthusiasm for eating.
Yeah, that's great.
So you give me s'mores and a torch, and then I obviously...
I didn't give you s'mores and a torch.
Someone who works here had that idea.
Yeah.
And I think they will not be working here tomorrow.
They'll be at NASA because I think they're geniuses.
I got on my pants.
I got on pants.
Yeah.
Well, this has been lovely of Hershey's to send all this.
And I think we said their name many times.
And I think we said it in a positive way.
But thank you, Hershey's.
You did exclude me.
No, no.
No company we've worked for has ever rewarded you two and then excluded me in such brutal fashion.
But I understand why they're doing it.
They have integrity and they don't want to have anything to do with someone who's actively anti-smore.
And it got us to talk about the product for the entire 20 minutes.
The entire 20 minutes.
Not the whole time.
I bet you there are a lot of fans right now thinking, this is a ripoff.
Oh, I'm sure there are.
And that's why I'm trying to add a little something kind of fun and add a little protein, you know.
So it's not all about Hershey.
But God, Hershey's good.
So what are you adding?
Okay.
Yeah, what's the protein?
So, like, what did you add?
Okay.
You want to get Dr. Arroyo back?
I know.
No, I really don't.
You want to talk about the time you were in an aluminum canoe again?
Wearing little hot pants.
I'll tell you this story.
The tents that we had at Craggin Mountain Farm were, I think, army issue from the 1940s.
They weren't the modern tents that you would get, like at say, an REI or some other place that sells camping technology.
They were just these sheets of like old faded green canvas.
And when it would rain, rain just poured through the tents, especially if there was, if the tent was bulging and you tried to hold it up a little bit.
Once your skin touched the tent, it would bring all the water into the tent.
I've never been that miserable in my life.
You guys, so you did actual camping.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I was in like.
I hiked the Presidential Mountain Range.
Oh, that's nice.
They had you do Mount Washington, Madison.
There was even a, there was a Mount Trump then because someone was thinking ahead.
Oh.
Oh, come on.
No, we are not a political show.
I won't have booing and I won't have yaying.
I'm just telling you, I just did a little... Didn't hear many yays.
Yeah.
I heard one.
I didn't hear any.
Dr. Arroyo.
He's in...
Ever since they said vaccines are bad for you, they pretty much got rid of all the medical experts.
Dr. Arroyo was thrilled.
I think he was offered a cabinet position.
Yes, I was, but I was overqualified.
Oh, okay, okay.
There's Dr. Arroyo with some political humor.
Very good, Dr. Arroyo.
Look at us, we're the Daily Show.
Look at me, I'm Bill Maher, yeah.
I'm showing the man what it's all about.
What's that?
Two for two on buttoning these episodes.
You did a great job.
And let's not talk too long afterwards.
But I have to tell you, those tents.
Oh, God.
They really were.
Oh, God.
You act like you were in Vietnam or something.
I know.
I keep dragging us back in.
When I went to camp, we were in air-conditioned cabins.
That's not camping.
In the Palisades.
Oh, my God.
It was really nice.
It was the Armenian camp I went to.
I don't even know how they got this place that we went to, but it was so fun.
Did you, but you liked the camp, obviously, because it sounds like you just went to a spa.
You went to a real camp, I bet.
He didn't go to camp.
But that being said, I did a lot of camping.
In fact, one time I slept on the ground with some friends way up in Yosemite and there was a bear 50 feet away in the middle of the night just staring at us.
You know what?
I don't like camping.
I do.
I think that people buy so much gear when they go camping so that it feels like they're at home.
That's true.
And it's like, just stay home.
Like, why are you going outside?
Can I remind you that LL Bean is our sponsor?
Right, right, right, right.
I want to counter what you said, Sona.
I love getting in the great outdoors.
I really do.
No, you don't.
I do.
I used to go camping all the time.
I love camping.
Do you have any stories about it?
What's that?
Do you have any stories about it?
I do.
I'll tell you about a tent I had once at Dragon Mountain Farm.
Really inferior quality.
And I think it was army issue.
Probably World War II or the Korean War.
And that's no joke.
Wettest night of my life.
This is the third time I've put this up.
He's putting the wrap up again, but I'm not going to lose it.
You know where I went camping once was Hawaii.
Come on.
You're not camping.
You're just vacationing.
Remember the time you camped in Las Vegas at the Wynn Hotel?
We're going to wrap it here because we've gone too far and I think been too funny.
Okay, Dr. Arroyo, come in and get us out of here.
Here he comes.
Time of death of this episode.
107 p.m.
See you next week.
We'll see you next week.
Thank you, Dr. Arroyo.
Summer S'mores with Conan O'Brien, Sonam Ovsessian, and Matt Gourley.
Produced by me, Matt Gourley.
Executive produced by Adam Sachs, Jeff Ross, and Nick Liao.
Theme song by The White Stripes.
Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino.
Take it away, Jimmy.
Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair.
And our associate talent producer is Jennifer Samples.
Engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez and Brendan Burns.
Additional production support by Mars Melnick.
Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Batista, and Brit Kahn.
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