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I'm Alayna. And this is Morbid and something really fucking creepy just happened.
No line was cut, no whale was freed, and the captain's mind was not on breed, but he belonged to the whalemen's creed. she took that ship in tow soon may the wellerman come to bring us sugar and tea and rum one They want to talk So this is morbid haunted as fuck edition.
First it was haunted edition and now it is haunted as fuck edition.
Because when we started this out, we were like, cool, it's spooky lighthouses, guys.
It's volume two. We're very excited. Haunting things are fun.
And then I was moving my microphone around a little bit to get it more comfortable.
And I was like, oh, you know what? Let me stop recording.
And just check to make sure that it's not making any boom, boom, boom sounds.
Right. and this is what happened this is what happened when we recorded the first one be ready Hey weirdos, I am Ash, and I'm Elena, and this is No Big Spoo-
I'm so excited for more spooky lighthouses.
Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know what that means.
I don't, I don't. I don't know if we're supposed to be doing this episode, but we're gonna forge ahead.
We're gonna go forth and conquer. It's going to be like the Oregon Trail and we're just going to forge across the river.
Yeah, that was a lot. Let's hope we don't get like yellow fever.
Yeah. Well, yeah, we cut most of that like first part because we didn't want your ears to start bleeding in your car.
But we were explaining that we're going to do like a fucking haunted week this week. and just have a bunch of haunted episodes because they're fun.
They are fun. We're just feeling in a spooky mood.
We're feeling like we want to be ghosty.
Yeah, I just like the summer is starting and it's making me miss October.
Yeah, and I feel like every haunted place obviously has to do with some tragedy or death or murder of some kind that happens with it.
So it's very interlocked with true crime.
At least we're going to find ones that are.
And I feel like, you know, sometimes we just need a week of spooky stuff. true crime instead of just like straight up true crime yeah and that's why we named it morbid because it's all encompassing It's morbid, man.
And you know what? If you have ghosts, you have everything.
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And if you don't, you don't. But go listen to Ghost.
That gives it away. That's how you know.
You know, I just love you guys. I want you to be right. so i'm giving you this all right well let's start Yeah, let's get into spooky lighthouses because I'm ready.
Okay, so we each picked you have one, right?
Like one massive one. Yeah, I have one that was just too much.
Too much. But shocking. That's so crazy.
Yeah. So yeah, Alayna has one super like haunted lighthouse and I have two.
And just to start this whole thing off, we thought it would be fun to start with a listener tale from a lighthouse that we did in volume one.
Exactly. So I'm not sure if I can say this person's name.
They'll probably tell me while I'm reading it.
So it starts off and it says... My Adventures in the St.
Simmons Lighthouse. Hi, weirdos. I think it's Simon's.
Is it? I think it is, yeah. Oh, my bad. Is it S-I-M-O-N?
Yeah, it is. It is Simon. You're right. I'm leaving.
We're already off to a great start here.
Hi, weirdos. Fellow millennial Capricorn here.
Oh, hey. Oh. Oh, hello. I hail from the pretty okay state of Georgia.
I was delighted after a shitty day at work to select your Haunted Lighthouses episode to listen to it while crying in the shower."
Oh my goodness. I'm sorry that you were crying in the shower, but like we've all been there.
Yeah. Although I live in Athens, my home away from home is St.
Simon's Island. Growing up, my family would visit at least once a year.
I've spent days, if not weeks, riding my bike up and down the And I have come across some seriously spooky places and stories.
Oh, I love that. I've been to the lighthouse countless times and the stairs to the top are indeed very creepy.
Ooh. I haven't heard any doggos barking in that lighthouse, but there definitely is a feeling attached to the building.
The first floor is a museum. There is a bust of an amazing black woman named Nora August.
As a young enslaved woman during the Civil War, she was freed and went on to live her own life.
The inscription on that bust reads, quote, purchased from the market St.
Augustine Flaw. Oh, that's so weird. oh i didn't even do that on purpose oh that's weird super weird whoa april 17th 1860 now a free woman and then it says nora august know her respect her yeah i do i love it and also that was weird because the lighthouse that i'm doing is the saint augustine lighthouse yeah that's why That was weird.
Super strange. We were like, that's weird and we're not going to tell you why.
We're not going to tell you why. Being very secretive today.
Ha ha ha. So here are a few other Saint Simons tales.
Igbo Landing. I think that's right. Maybe should we look it up?
Igbo? Igbo? I'm going to look it up. I guess it could be Igbo.
But I'm feeling like it's Igbo. Igbo landing.
Pronounce. Pronounce. Pronunciation. It's like pronouncenames.com.
Let's see. Oh, that's British, so it sounds better.
She said Igbo. Igbo landing. Igbo landing.
You can just say it like that. Okay, Igbo landing.
In May, 1803, the Igbo, People of Nigeria were stolen as captives and arrived in Savannah, Georgia to enter the slave trade. these enslaved people were chained and packed under the deck of a coastal vessel which would take them to St.
Simon's Before they could land ashore, about 75 Igbo people rebelled, excuse me, took control of the ship, drowned their captors and finally landed the ship in Dunbar Creek.
Following their arrival in the muddy marshes, they turned back to the water.
Rather than live as enslaved people, the men died by a mass suicide. supposedly still in their chains.
According to blackpast.org, about a dozen bodies were uncovered. and the rest were lost to history and legend.
Wow. That is wild. That's why that place is so heavy.
Oh, man. All right. The next tell... The next...
There's one of those souls coming out. They're always lurking.
Mary Dewanda. As with most islands, there is a legend of a love story that ended in tragedy. on St.
Simons. Hundreds of years ago, a woman named Mary lost her betrothed to a violent storm.
Horrified and heartsick, she ran into the waves, perhaps on a horse and died.
There's now a rumor of a wandering lover haunting the shores of St.
Simons. There's always... There's always a wandering lover.
There always is. There has to be. I want to be a wandering lover, but, like, I don't all at the same time.
No. I want to see a wandering lover and give her a hug.
Yeah, I want to see one and just be like, it's going to be okay.
Yeah. but i don't want to be one here's here's tinder start sweating there you go here and we're like actually it won't be okay it will not be okay I was like, what are you trying to do to this poor person?
I'm just making her more lost. lost bow who drowned at sea, known as Mary Dewanda or Mary the Wanderer.
She can be seen in the evenings walking up and down the beach with a lantern.
Always with a lantern. I always, I got like chills when you said that.
Doesn't she sound beautiful though? I picture this woman just walking along the beach holding the lantern.
I see like the wind blowing these really like ethereal skirts back. and they're white yeah and it's all very gauzy and very just like yes airy and back then was like so much spooky it wasn't better but like it was better than now It just looked, it was like prettier at times.
Yeah, it was more, more surreal. That's all it was.
It was aesthetic. It was. all right the light in the graveyard is the next one i'm for it christ church cemetery is a gorgeous old graveyard near near ford i can do this near ford frederica on saint simon's island you did it i did it Long ago, a man lost his wife to an illness.
The widower knew that his beloved was terrified of the dark.
So he visited her grave every night to make sure that she had a lit candle illuminating her tomb.
And I can't even get a text back. My heart just exploded.
What love. That's literally love. I don't want you to be scared of the dark when you're dead.
So I'm going to light a candle by you all the time.
They say that you can still see a flickering light in the cemetery after dark. long after both lovers have passed away.
I'm obsessed. Oh, I love that. They also say, my friends and I run a YouTube channel called... country fried cryptid.
Stop it. I think I've seen their YouTube. channel and it's awesome yes oh my god where we explore spooky sites in georgia We even visited the place where Marion Stembridge lived his worst life in Milledgeville.
Stop it. We are on a hiatus, but hope to get back to investigating haunted Georgia again soon.
I hope so. That is amazing. And then they said, side note, for my birthday this year, I ventured up north to sleep over at the Lizzie Borden house.
While I didn't get any spooky vibes. Whoa.
Interesting. That's shocking. I did find it amusing that someone left an ibuprofen in the offering plate upstairs in the John Morse room.
That's amazing. You know, for those headaches that the Bordens must have been having in the afterlife.
I think it's probably nice to do. I hope you enjoy these photos, including me cosplaying Mary Duanda, one of Dunbar Creek, and one of me trying to climb an oak tree.
I will be sure to keep it weird down south for both of you."
Thank you. I'm not going to say this person's name because they didn't specify, but their YouTube channel That's true.
It's pretty rad. So check out their YouTube channel.
Oh, that's so funny. I definitely have come across that and I've definitely watched videos and like.
As soon as I read it, I was like... Been into it.
That sounds really familiar. That's really cool.
That was also just like the perfect opening to this episode because you gave us like a little... tidbit of each tale and you said it so beautifully.
Thank you for doing that because that was like a really well put together history there.
I liked it. I loved that a lot. I loved that.
All right, so should we start off with St.
Augustine, do you think? Yeah, let's start off with St.
Augustine because I also have a listener tale that can set us up for that.
Oh, my goodness. Listen to you. And by the way, you've sent in tons of Lighthouse stories and suggestions and listener tales. we love them keep them coming we're going to read those on listener tales episodes as well so they won't get lost in the shuffle and not used if they're not used with the particular lighthouse episode.
So just, I wanted to make sure people knew that.
And to specify, you can totally like go, because I saw a couple that were like, I won't bore you with like my whole experience there.
And I'm like, no, no, no, that wouldn't bore me.
Give it to me. Yeah, like suggest it and then tell me your experience.
And also I just realized that This is even weirder because this one's about St.
Augustine, but it mentions St. Simons. What the fuck?
I just realized that we did not plan this whatsoever.
We each pulled these tails separately. Completely separately.
Wow. Weird. What's happening today? There's a lot of haunted shit happening right now.
This feels just like that we're in line.
And also you and I have like been really in line lately.
Like we were recording Scream last night and I swear I like took a thought from your head and set it up. allowed it happened several times and it was like like a like a complex thought yeah like not just a regular like yeah I want chicken for yeah you would suddenly say something and I was like I was just thinking that yeah yeah Maybe we've rearranged the room.
Maybe that's what it is. It's like a nice vibe.
Yeah, maybe the shway is going good. The shway is good.
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Well, hello there, spooky gals. My name is Leanna.
I hope I'm saying that right. It's Liana.
Let me see. Liana. Yeah. Yeah. Leanna. Leanna.
Hi. Feel free to use my name on the off chance this tale graces your eyeballs and magically finds itself in a future episode.
That time is now. or the on chance i was so excited about your new haunted lighthouse series i'm so glad you guys were excited about that because i love these Your girl loves a good haunting, and I have a personal experience with lighthouse ghosts. my bff and fellow weirdos sent me the first lighthouse episode shout out to my girl deanna Oh, Deanna and Leanna.
I love that. Because we were actually planning a trip to St.
Simon's Island later this summer. Weird.
I immediately started looking into lighthouse tours.
I'm a veterinary nurse. I love you. You're an angel, you mean?
Yeah, and would love for the chance to see the ghost of Bull the dog.
Now on to my own personal haunted lighthouse. experience feel free to edit as needed if you feel the need to condense down to the juicy parts of the lighthouse episode I will not do that nay I grew up in Florida and would visit the St.
Augustine Lighthouse almost yearly as part of school field trips.
I remember as a child always getting a strange feeling when we went up the iconic lighthouse. but it wasn't until I was in my late 20s that I finally got the chance to do their ghost tour.
As an empath who has had my fair share of paranormal experiences, I was excited to finally hopefully experience something at a place I grew up visiting and learning the history of.
I've submitted another listener tale of the other ghostly encounters if you're interested in hearing more.
Obviously. I'm going to keep your name in consideration and I'm going to search that shit right after this.
Me too. You're on the next listener, Taylor.
At the start of the tour, guests were handed one EMF reader per group. and were instructed to try to be as respectful and take things as seriously as possible in hopes of maximizing the chance for an encounter.
This is where I shot a glaring side eye at my too cool for school younger brothers who at this point were scoffing and disinterested to put it mildly.
My husband Matt was the one who was most excited for the tour, so he started as the one holding the EMF reader.
Everything started relatively uneventful.
We walked around, Matt asking questions, hoping to cause the EMF to light up.
So far, nothing. During the tour, we learned of a lighthouse keeper, I'm going to talk about him, Peter Rasmussen, who, to summarize, was fond of two things, cigars and being strict i love that that's like papa it really is he's fun more than just that but yeah But cigars he loves.
He does. It was said he was a stickler for manners and he hated when gentlemen would wear hats indoors.
Well, guess who is currently breaking that rule?
My husband and two brothers, all prancing around inside with their ball caps. i suggested to matt that i try holding the emf the second it touched my hand it lit up like a fucking christmas tree hell yeah To test it wasn't a fluke, I asked some questions.
Is somebody here with us? Lights. Did you used to work here?
More lights. Do you wish these young gentlemen would remove their hats while inside? lights going fucking crazy he's like take your fucking hat off he's like ding ding ding the lights timed perfectly with the questions so it was decided I was the designated EMF gal for the remainder of the tour, much to my husband's chagrin.
This is also where my brothers started switching from disinterest to the heebie-jeebies.
They felt extremely on edge the rest to the tour.
That'll come into play later. Oh, and when I return to that spot of the initial interaction later in the evening, I couldn't help but detect the faint smell of smoke, even though the area was a smoke-free zone.
My asthmatic ass has been well-trained to know when smoke is present.
It ain't easy me and Wheezy. Always funny.
My other experience. I believe was with one of the young girls who tragically passed while playing in a construction cart that smashed into the bay.
I'm going to go into that when I go into that.
Oh, sad. We are at the innkeeper's house where there are several tales of the girls tugging on clothing and playing hide and seek.
Women are primarily who report having these interactions.
I was sitting on a bench with my husband and one of my brothers.
The other was already waiting in the car at this point.
Still holding the EMF, I decided to ask some questions targeting the little girls.
Are one of the girls here? Nothing. my name is liana i'd like to play a game with you if you'd like one little light flash we're Would you prefer it if the boys left?
Another teensy flash. At this point, my brother declared, fuck this, and went to join the other by the car.
My husband switched to a bench further away.
I placed the EMF reader down on the bench on the exact spot where my brother was sitting Lights all the way to red.
I locked eyes with my husband who saw the whole exchange and he gave me a nod to continue.
I spent the next ten minutes or so playing a guessing game with whatever spirit had graced me with her presence.
I would try to guess things like her favorite color, and the EMF would light up like crazy when I got the answer right.
Even though I didn't experiencing anything crazy like a full body apparition or disembodied voices, I still can't deny that the experiences I had were anything but paranormal and very exciting.
My brothers to this day don't like talking about the tour, and I'm convinced they sensed something that made them uncomfortable.
Thanks for reading my spoopy tales and definitely keep it so weird that you stay open to experiences because you never know what little ghost girl just wants to play a game with a kind stranger, but not so weird that you traumatize some teenage boys who just wanted to wear a baseball cap. i love it i love that thank you liana thank you and that's gonna play really nicely into my tale now.
Let's go. So I'm covering the St. Augustine Lighthouse.
It was built in 1874, the one that is at least So it was actually on there in one form or another on this island from way back in 1586.
Okay. actually when there was like versions of this lighthouse that was a long ass time ago But the one we're gonna talk about was built in 1874 originally.
It is 100 Red Cox Road is where you can find it, and that's in St.
Augustine, Florida. Alrighty. Now, I didn't realize while I began researching this that St.
Augustine is the oldest city in America.
Oh, I didn't realize that either. I had no idea.
For some reason in my mind, it would be like Salem.
Yeah. Salem. Yeah. Like somewhere in Salem.
I mean, that was like, what, 16 whatever.
Yeah. So yeah, I could see why you thought that.
And then like, you think like Roanoke and all that, you know, and this was before that.
Which is crazy. Yeah. Now, it was established by the Spanish in 1565. and it was named after Saint Augustine, who was the patron saint of brewers.
He was apparently a hard partier with a quote, "...with wicked living and false beliefs."
And then he was converted and became Chill, so he's now the patron saint of stopping vices and chilling the fuck out. basically i kind of feel like in the beginning he was me yeah and then he became you yeah like so shane augustine is kind of like the dual sides he runs throughout us yeah Wow.
He sounded like a really fun time. Yeah.
So he's just now the patron saint of, you know, stopping, fucking around. and chilling the fuck out.
He's the patron saint of fuck around and find out.
Truly. Now, there were lighthouses before this one, like I said, as early as 1586, but they were destroyed by, you guessed it, the civil war yeah or just fell prey to the elements and erosion like a couple like at least one of them just like fell into the sea Imagine just like, yeah, she's just like, scoop.
I'll take that. So this one was built in 1874 and it still stands.
In 1981, it was added to the National Register of Historic Places.
And you can go visit if you want. I want.
I want to. I literally wrote, go do it. I will do it.
It had keepers like actual lighthouse until about 1955 when they were able to use the wonder of technology to make the light automated.
I feel like every lighthouse that I read about at some point or another became automated.
And it was usually around like the 50s or 60s.
And it kind of takes away the spooky greatness of a lighthouse to me, which is like a bummer.
Like it needs a keeper. Get the electricity out of there.
I need a keeper. Right. Just light the flame.
I digress. Now, it has 219 stairs in it, and the observation deck is 165 feet up. all the way up, very high up.
Now, back in the good old days, there were sometimes There were sometimes up to three lighthouse keepers at once that had to be... running this lighthouse there was always like a a head keeper and like two assistants yeah And shit went down, my friends.
There were some real tragedies that happened with the Keepers over the years.
And I get so excited when I can find a newspaper about. a ghost story, especially the origins of a ghost story.
Because then you can actually be like, oh, this is for real.
Like this isn't just like a rumor. Exactly.
And I found one for this one. So I'm happy.
It's like, yes, confirmed. So we're going to go through the tragedies and the deaths that have occurred here and then we're going to talk about the paranormal activity that has cropped up as a result of these.
Now, the first thing that I want to chat about is the tragic tale of Joseph Andrew. who was the keeper in 1859.
He was 60 years old and he was known as a kind and respectful man.
Hell yeah. He was doing his thing, in fact called a very worthy keeper and a very worthy man by the Charleston Daily Courier.
Okay. And at the time of his death, he was whitewashing the siding of the lighthouse.
So he was like way up. And he was still working.
60 years old. And according to the reports that day, the wind was wild.
Oh. He was standing on some scaffolding and it was bucking to and fro.
Ah! tragically he fell from the scaffolding and according to the article which goes into graphic detail about exactly what happened because it was probably like an old tiny newspaper of course it's from 1850
Yeah, they're like he fell off and three of his ribs fell out and his eyeball was over there.
Well, not quite that, but it's still crazy.
It said, quote, he first struck the roof of the oil room 30 feet down once he glanced off and struck the stone wall which encloses the lighthouse and thence to the ground a stone pavement.
Oof. It said it was about a 60-foot fall from where he went, and he died almost instantly.
But neighbors heard his screams that day from very far away.
Oh, that stresses me out. Now a very interesting and cool thing did come from this tragedy.
So there is something good that came out of this a little bit.
Joseph's wife Maria was obviously devastated by the tragic loss of her husband.
And so according to reports, she said she went to the top of the lighthouse afterwards. all the way 165 feet up and in her grief she just walked out onto that observation deck in her nightgown And she just said into the whatever, what do I do?
And she claims, and she claimed very adamantly, that she heard her husband's voice in the wind. say, tend to the light.
My body did the... I like that too, that little like... oh yeah and he said 10 to the light love you're gonna make me fucking cry out here today and she crying in the club is what you're gonna do ryan and like elena loves when i say that but yeah he said 10 to the light so she knew exactly what she had to do She was sitting alone in VIP.
I don't know what that means, but yes. Oh my goodness.
Absolutely. Candy Muse. Oh, yeah. absolutely and she said so she knew exactly what she had to do here And she got the entire community to back her.
They all came together for her. And she became the first female lighthouse keeper in Florida history to being paid equally as the men in the job, and became the first Hispanic American in the United States Lighthouse Service.
Hell to the motherfucking yeah. Isn't that amazing to come out of that tragedy?
She went up there and her husband said, take care of the light.
And she said, I will. I will one up that.
I will do even more. She said, I will become the first woman ever. to do all the things.
Isn't she amazing? So she like did the damn thing.
Hell yes. The community was totally behind her. amazing which is just really cool wow i love this and i feel like it's gonna get so sad and creepy it gets really sad but no one is like evil in this yeah everyone it's and we'll get to it at the end but like people who go to see this place there's definitely some heaviness because there's a lot a tragedy of course but nothing feels unwelcoming or angry people say all right nothing feels like malignant Yeah.
Well, because it seems like, I mean, obviously we're at the beginning, but the two people or the one person who has passed away seemed like a great guy.
Well, and they... Everybody who ran this place seemed like they loved it.
Right. And then the people who take care of it now really love it.
So I feel like there's just a lot of like care put into this place.
That's the thing. And I think it comes out.
The energy you put into your house or the place you live is the energy you get back.
Exactly. Now, next we have William Harn.
He became head lighthouse keeper after all of that.
Now, he had a lot of military service and then he moved to Charleston, actually, where he worked on a light ship. before becoming head keeper of the St.
Augustine lighthouse. in 1864. So he was right after Maria's turn as head lighthouse keeper.
He moved there with his wife Kate and their five daughters, Ruby, Molly, Catherine, Charlotte, and Ida.
Eventually, they would have a sixth daughter named Grace.
Adorable. So he's got Ruby, Molly, Catherine, Charlotte, Ida, and Grace.
I love. And it autocorrected to Grave. And I was like, I was about to be like, Grave's so metal.
But no. No. He was the head keeper of this lighthouse for 14 years.
Dang. tragically though he suffered from tuberculosis and in 1889 he passed away from it And he passed away in the actual keeper's home on the property.
So during his illness, his wife Kate took over everything.
She ran the lighthouse. There's a lot of bad bitches in this.
Bad bitches aplenty. Yeah, this is like a real like, the women are just taken over and it seems like it's like all equal and awesome which is cool She helped with the keeper duties while raising the children and also taking care of William.
And there was like 86 kids. Yeah. After his death, the community... rallied right around her too, and they signed a petition to have her appointed as the lighthouse keeper. dude do you feel like that was like maria and like i feel like maria was pushing that yes And she was actually given the second keeper position and another keeper was moved into the head position, but she was still second keeper.
Lame of them to not give her the head keeper position.
Well, and still really cool that the community rallied around her like they did.
Like, that's really cool. So we have him who died in the house and then we have like another cool like boss story.
Yeah, boss bitch. But then September 24th, 1894, the next head keeper had moved into his spot.
That guy was... joseph rantia his wife ended up dying in the keeper's home Now we got two.
Yeah. It's unknown how. We think it's just an illness or something happened.
There's no like... murder involved. There's no like anything crazy or sensational.
It was the 1800s. It was like natural causes because she was 25.
Exactly. Because she was just a person. Yeah.
No, he was the head keeper for 12 years.
People really love this job. They stick around for a while.
They do. Now in 1873, a truly harrowing tragedy happened at St.
Augustine Lighthouse. This is where it gets bleak.
During this time there was a massive amount of construction being done on the lighthouse.
They were renovating some of it. A man named Hezekiah Pitti lived on the grounds of the lighthouse and took the job as superintendent of lighthouse construction.
He and his wife Mary had five children, four daughters and one son.
In order to make things move smoother, a system was created for construction.
The workers used a railway cart to bring the supplies to and from wherever they needed to go.
This cart ran a path from the lighthouse construction site all the way down to the water where the ships carrying all the supplies would come in.
The cart would travel down this path. It would be stopped by one single piece of wood that acted like a makeshift gate. to keep the cart from flying into the water when it was on the path.
And it worked because this cart was going down to the water empty at all times. and then returning the other way full but that wasn't always the case oh you see Kids in the area like to use this as a ride.
Yeah, what the hell else were they going to do back then?
They would hop in this once it was empty, they would hop in at the construction site and would ride it down the path to the water. only to be stopped by that all-important wooden board at the end.
They loved it, seemed like innocent fun to the adults because 1800s. right you know now on july 10th 1873 15 year old mary pitty 13-year-old Eliza Pitti and four-year-old Carrie Pitti were in the cart with a friend who is never named, but is said to have been about 10 years old, and they believe that she might have been the daughter of a worker, one of the construction workers.
They took the ride down without knowing the wooden makeshift gate was lifted from the last supply trip."
And I just never been placed back down. So the cart flew directly into the water and it flipped over on top of the girls and basically pinched. them underwater oh my god a worker named dan session a construction worker saw this ran as fast as he could and to save them i mean he like lifted that card up he pulled them out himself like he like hero status with his bare hands but three of the four girls had drowned by the time he had grabbed them.
Only four-year-old Carrie lived. Oh, wow.
Yeah, the other three had died. Now the entire project was stopped.
The entire town of St. Augustine completely shut down for the memorials and funerals.
So sad. And so that is a huge tragedy that occurred on this land.
Right outside of the lighthouse has direct ties.
Like right in the water. Right. So we're going to keep all these tragedies in mind and then we're going to connect them back to some paranormal shit.
Okay. But then in 1901, a man named Peter Rasmussen took over.
That's who the listener tale Leanna was talking about.
Cigars and man. Yep. Took over as the head lighthouse keeper.
And he is actually the longest running keeper.
He did it for 23 years. Wow. I told you, people love this job.
They do. Now, like we said, Peter also... aside from loving cigars and loving to be like hate tourists and like being very strict.
Yeah. He loved good fancy shit. He loved smoking the best cigars, but he was super cranky.
No visitors and staff. I don't think he was like a bad guy.
I think he was just a strict guy. Have you ever seen the movie Grumpy Old Man? yeah he's just grumpy guy they're all like that now visitors and staff will distinctly smell cigar smoke when they go into the lighthouse keeper's home and grounds like liana said she smelled smoke and it ain't easy being wheezy she knows smoke She's asthmatic so she could smell it and that is something that all the staff say they smell all the time, very distinct cigar smoke.
Oh man, the guys in our family love to have a cigar when they're together and the freaking odor that they come back inside with.
It's very distinct. too it is that's you know cigar smoke it's like a musky yeah it's just like very you know it yeah They also, people will see a man in a suit in the basement of the keeper's home walking around and causing people to feel anxious.
Oh. And they believe it looks like Rasmussen.
And it kind of makes sense that he would make people feel anxious because he's very strict.
They're like, I'm under. And like Leanna said, he did not like when people wore hats indoors.
Gentlemen, don't wear your hats. So I think he just has a vibe that's like, don't fuck up around me. i mean i feel like i would strive to impress him yeah i would you know what i mean like i feel like i could make him my good old buddy yeah I think I would.
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We're going to make Peter Rasmussen our good old buddy.
You can sit with us, Peter. Yeah, you can.
It's fine. I meet Peter at the park. I get being. cranky i get it yeah sorry if you can hear my chair moving i'm like moving a lot Sorry if you can hear my chair moving.
I'm like moving a lot. I like that. There's a lot of movement happening here.
I'm like moving a lot. I'm moving a little bit.
My chair is like squeaky and yours is like not squeaky.
I know. I don't. Yeah. You're right. Because I'm moving around and I don't hear it.
I have like a farting chair. You have a gassy chair.
Yeah. She has Ibs. i was about to say it but i was like i'll let you say i'm always gonna say i'm not gonna out your abs more than you already do peter would hate this conversation Oh, Peter would be horrible.
Oh, no. Maybe we wouldn't make him. I don't think he would want it.
Think of how often we burp. Yeah. He would not want to be our friend.
Oh, man. Sorry, Peter. And I do love a hat. it's true i do love a hat but i personally feel as though indoors it's bad luck so oh there you go there's a lot of bad luck stuff there is i gotta have you make a list i couldn't do so Because I feel like I commit a lot of these faux pas.
Treasonous acts. These treasonous acts of bad luck.
That are going to get you... luck gonna get me got you're gonna get you mal luck mal luck mal luck well let's get to the last housekeeper you know shall we get to him we shall he manned the lighthouse from 1953 to 1955 when it became automated His name was James Pippin.
Is this the audition for Pippin? Is this the audition for Pippin? uh every lighthouse keeper lived on site in the keeper's home during their time at the post and james did as well But he eventually moved out of that home and off site, which was never done before.
I feel like that defeats the purpose of being the keeper.
Well, he said the reason was that he said, quote, that big house was haunted and I will not stay another night in it.
So he was like, fuck that. No way. He said he would hear maddening footsteps all night upstairs, but no one was there. and he said he just couldn't stand it anymore it just felt like people were walking around everywhere oh I hate that Now, I mentioned before that after that last lighthouse keeper, like we said right now, that light became automated.
So now the lighthouse keeper's home was rented out because they didn't need to use it anymore.
Ah. A man who was a leather crafter was renting it in the 1960s.
He later reported that one night he woke up and he saw a little girl wearing a lace dress, standing next to his bed, just staring at him.
Get out of my room. And he said he shot up to look at her and she just closed her eyes and vanished.
Well, thank you for getting out of my room.
She got out of it. She was like, sorry. She just closed her eyes and left.
Just closed her eyes and vanished. Oh, Shaq, honestly, what a superpower.
I know, you're just uncomfortable and you're like, oop.
And I'm gone. And poop. Bye. Yeah, she was out of there.
She was like, oh, sorry. Sorry to disturb you.
Didn't mean to wake you. I don't know. She's like a little creepy.
She's watching you sleep and then she's like, oh, you woke up.
No fun. Well, that's kind of what kids do though.
It makes sense. I guarantee you that was like the four-year-old or something.
Do your kids watch you sleep? Well, you'll just wake up and your kid's just standing there and they're like, mama, mama, like just staring at you.
And you'll open your eyes like, what? Oh. and they just like yeah that's actually true your kids slept at my house not that long ago and I woke up to one of them just at the foot of my bed like needing something and I was like what the fuck what what the fuck i was like whoa that's what kids do they freak you out in the middle of the night they do So I believe it.
Now there's a ton of activity in the basement of the Keeper's home.
Up to this day and since 1955, people have reported it.
And there are stories that a man may have hanged himself down there.
That's the only like real like, ooh. Like, you know what I mean?
But I didn't find any newspaper articles about this.
But again... It could have been a long time ago and some of that stuff just wasn't reported.
Yeah. But it is a story that is often told and the reason why there's a lot of activity down there.
They also think that maybe the kids... like to play down there and that's why there's a lot of activity with the kids like they're still playing in the afterlife And we'll get to that because they definitely are still playing in the afterlife.
Awesome. Now, in the living room slash sitting room area, staff will often hear an older man coughing.
In the evenings when the place is completely empty.
That would drive you insane. It would make me crazy.
Alayna Fox. hates the sound of a cough.
Coughing and loud sneezes slurps slurps sniffs I have like a real issue with sound you have misophonia I really do because that it would make me absolutely batty oh no I could not handle it now that we've said you know when you're like talking about something I'm like I need to cough I know I almost I'm like I have to clear my throat now Let me clear my throat.
Now, they think this might be William Harn, who died of tuberculosis in the home.
It makes sense. It reads. It does. It really does.
Because, I mean, consumption leads you to cough a lot and cough up blood and awful. things so and he would spend a lot of time in the sitting room being taken care of and when he was like ailing oh So it kind of makes sense.
I hate that he's still sick in the afterlife.
I know. It's kind of a bummer that you just like perpetually cough.
Or do you think maybe... I don't know. I don't want to get too theological with it.
Oh, go get with it. I like, do you think that like. certain parts of your of your energy like stay somewhere but other parts of your energy go off Yeah, like maybe he's off somewhere, but his like coughing is just hanging around.
Because you will hear these stories, like I've read a little bit about like, People just in a like perpetual loop right after night like if somebody fell off a building They're just perpetually in a loop of falling off that building oh fuck that and it's like is the person in a loop or is there energy in that loop Right, and is it all of their energy?
Because their energy did plenty of other things while they were on this, like... earthly yeah it's like are they really defined by that energy at the end of their life or is it or are they because that's the thing that ended their life Oh, God.
But then, like, oh, no. Yeah, I don't know.
Because then think of people that got, like, brutally murdered.
They just get brutally murdered in the afterlife forever.
I don't know. That's horrific. I don't know.
I don't... Because there's all kinds of... I think there's all kinds of different like spiritual... uh like energies and how they present themselves because i read things about like perpetual loops like that where you'll hear the same thing over and over again.
Yeah. but i just it's very complicated well and then is that like somebody in like a perpetual loop or did they have unfinished business and that's why they're in that loop does it need to be broken somehow oh fuck do you know how much unfinished business i have like already I'm like, I can't die yet.
Like, I can't die i got i have to finish filing my taxes you know unfinished business i do need to do that That deadline is hastingly approaching.
It is a lumen. Can you say hastingly? no you know i was gonna try to give it to you hastily there you go hastily yeah approaching with haste all right i'm with much haste i need to learn basic grammatics before i die you've got it unfinished business we'll get you there no people will also see a woman at the top of the observation deck in a long white nightgown with her hair flowing.
And they believe this is Joseph Andrews' wife, Maria.
Still manning that light, asking him what she should do.
We're going. I need to meet the fucking legend that is Maria.
I need to meet Maria. I would just say to her, you bad bitch.
And then I would explain. That's a good thing these days.
Yeah, that is a good thing. Let me preface this by saying what I'm about to say is the highest form of compliment. one can bestow upon thee.
And then say, you bad bitch. You bad bitch.
You are totally Rufus. You are Rufus. spread it around like wildfire.
So... a guest who went there because you can still go there.
You can take these tours. I'll link it because it seems like a really cool place to go. the people who run it seem like they really care about it and they run a really cool place there.
So I want everybody to give them as much business as they can if they Now a guest was walking up the staircase like ready to start a tour and suddenly they like almost tripped and They were like, oh, what the fuck?
They looked down and their shoelace was tied to the railing.
Oh my God. And they were like, clearly didn't do that.
There was no explanation. No one on the tour could account for how it happened.
There were other people on the tour that were like, I didn't see anybody do that.
Do you think it was like one of the little kids?
And they think it might have been one of the little kids because that's a very much a little kid thing to do to be like, Yeah, I don't, I'm too naive and young to know that you could fall to your death by me doing this.
Or plot twist. Was that person wearing a hat?
Maybe. Was it Peter Rasmussen being like, you're going to learn a lesson today.
You are going to learn today. Right. I don't know.
Either way, you can also hear giggling a lot They hear that like little girls giggling.
They hear it, staff members hear it, visitors will hear it.
That just like reminds me of the Blair Witch Project when they're in the tent, that one scene.
And it scares the fucking daylights out of me.
And you see, like, the little hands on it.
No, no, no, no, no. And you hear, like, kids, like...
No, okay. Oh, I just got the chills. I hate that shit.
No, look at my arm. Look at my arm. That's... I have...
Goosebumps. I hate that part. I hate that whole movie.
Fucks me up, man. it fucks me up man it does it really does it does no staff members will say that often they hear giggling at the top of the tower and they'll go up to check.
Because they're like, I hope that's not an actual child up like 219 pounds. like stairs up there yeah i usually so they'll head up there and as they get up there they don't hear it anymore And then all of a sudden they hear it down at the bottom and they go down to the bottom.
They hear it at the top. So they're just like fucking with that kid. wants you to get your cardio in.
Yeah, they're like, you know what? Heart health is important.
Honestly. So the owners and staff think that this is definitely the pity girls and their friend playing hide and seek.
Cute. They'll also lock and unlock doors.
Not so cute. And doors that are very hard to push open will like slam open. or slam shut for no reason.
Like they can't be blown by the wind. This is just like a force is actually doing it.
That's wild. Now, during another tour, visitors and a guide used an EMF reader to ask the girls if they wanted to play hide and seek.
And they got really intense readings and walked around trying to like play along with them.
Mm-hmm. Now, apparently they were like walking around being like, are you over here?
Like, I'm going to find you like pretending to act like you would with a kid.
And apparently they found that it was spiking again under the staircase.
And so they pretended to like find them. by being like, found you.
Then the reading dropped, and then they found it again by the kids' play table. so it was like they were like found you and they were like aha and they like ran somewhere else Like it worked out and it only stopped when more guests arrived in that area.
And then they were like freaked out. Because they didn't want to do it in front of everybody.
Oh my goodness. Now this next one gave me chills.
The whole fucking thing is giving me So there are times when people on tours will see a young girl and they'll talk to her and then they find that she vanishes. they either look behind them and look back and she's gone or she's just not there all of a sudden.
You don't understand how badly I want to talk to like a ghost kid.
Right. And like I want to like not know and then later find out that I had a convo with a Yeah, I want to not know as it's happening.
Right. Now often these girls are wearing period clothing and people think they're just in costume as part of the tour or something.
But one time during a tour, a woman walked up to another woman on the tour and was like, your daughter is so adorable and she was so well behaved.
Like, I just wanted to tell you, like, she was just like being like a really cool woman complimenting another woman. woman which I was like fuck yeah mom see mom right she walked up to her and was just like your daughter is just so well behaved like I just wanted to tell you like great job And this woman was like, wow, that's really nice of you to say, but I don't have a daughter.
Oh, fuck. and she was like what i'm not sure what you're talking about not only was she like my daughter's not here today she was just like i straight up she was like i literally don't have a i love that she took the time to say thanks first she was like that's super nice thank you so much I'm all about women supporting women and like mom supporting moms.
And like, that was really cool of you to do and like continue to do that with other people.
But. I don't have a daughter. So the woman who had complimented her was like, oh, I'm sorry. there was a little girl standing next to you this entire tour and she was being so well behaved.
And the other guests confirmed this as well.
They were like, yeah, we saw that little girl.
And the woman was shocked and was like, I don't have a child.
Oh, my God. I don't have a child with me.
And it was later confirmed with records that no child had been present on that particular tour or any tour going on. at that time bitch i'm vibrating out here yes so that one freaked me out the most that it was like there was a little girl standing with you the whole time and she was like excuse me They also found footprints in the dirt of a little kid with bare feet.
Fucking adorable. But no children were on the grounds and the footprints just vanished into the keeper's house.
That's so cute. I feel like a lot of people would not have that reaction to that statement, but I think that's adorable.
Like a little barefooted ghost kid just being like, doot doot doot. i'm just gonna go in for a snack just gonna play some hide and seek i'm gonna hang out on this tour and see what they say about me like i'm just gonna see how this goes they're probably like why are these people dressed like so weird they look horrible what the fuck Now, people around the lighthouse and visitor staff, this is a little scarier.
They hear horrifying screams daily and nightly here.
Awesome. And in fact, it has happened so often and the screams are so intense that the police have been called a lot because people think someone's being like, injured or hurt.
I love that at one point you were like nobody feels like it's like Yeah.
Level and well, it's totally fine. Everyone feels happy. here's the thing that it's it's true i will stand by that still this they are attributing to joseph andrews fall that's what i And the fact that his screams were heard so far away.
But you're right. Like, it's not a great thing, but it's not something like that.
I think people feel is going to like hurt them.
Yeah. But it's just like sad more than anything.
Yeah. Is that like you hear this like painful scream all the time?
Right, because you're like, is that just happening?
Yeah, you're just saying. You're not just going to let it go.
Like, oh, like they would have us believe happened in the Kitty Genovese case.
They would just, even though it didn't. But you're not just going to be like, oh, someone else will take care of that.
You got to call and be like, hey, I don't know what's going on, but I hear some shit like you should probably check it out.
Don't fall for the bystander effect. Yeah, don't do that.
But Shane and Ryan from BuzzFeed Unsolved came here in 2019.
Our like counterparts. Our like counterparts.
It's a great episode. You were showing me clips.
It's really good. and Ryan was very excited about going into this place like as he should be When they were in the parlor, I thought it was really interesting.
They distinctly heard a man cough and they got it on tape.
Yeah, I heard that one. It's spooky as fuck.
And is it Ryan who tries to explain it away?
No, that was Shane. Shane tries to explain it away.
And I was like, I don't know, man. I was on Ryan's side.
I will say even Shane couldn't really explain this one away.
He tried to, and he's usually pretty successful at making me be like, oh, yeah, you're right.
Yeah. Counterparts. This one... No, I was with Ryan.
I was like, that was a cough. It was. That was a man's cough.
And they were sitting in the living room, like parlor area.
It was crazy. And also, just to leave you on this, they did have a Ghost Hunters episode on to on this location also in 2019 actually.
And they set up, um, REM pods on each level of the lighthouse.
And a REM pod are like little electromagnetic field readers.
So anytime like there's an ambient temp change and an energy field disturbance, it will set them off.
Like you'll hear beeping and like lights.
Very cool. And as they went up the spiral staircase, they all started going off together.
And they were responding to questions. And there's also footage of a huge bang coming from the top of the stairs when no one else was in it.
A huge bang freaks me the fuck out because that used to happen at Ma and Papa's house like from time to time.
Yeah, that's scary to me. It sets my whole body on like a flame.
I just, I sporadically. combust every time it happens.
It's really scary. Despite the tons of paranormal activity they found, Grant Wilson, who's like one of the Ghost Hunter guys, he said he felt safe.
He didn't feel any malice from any of it, which makes sense because it's all either tragic accidents or keepers who just loved that lighthouse. and seemed not to want to leave it.
And he actually told Kelsey Lloyd, who is the special programs manager at the Lighthouse, that he believed It's becoming more and more active each time they visit because he said it just keeps getting more and more each time they're there.
He said that's because he thinks the people who run that lighthouse love the building.
They love and appreciate the history. And they love and appreciate and respect the people who called it home for so long.
So they said, I think the spirits feel safe here.
And they feel like they can. And they feel comfortable to let themselves out.
Which is like a really nice thing because you're like, wow, it's nice that it's being taken care of by people who want to like respect the history and show it.
Yeah. That was like so scary and beautiful.
Yeah. And that's the St. Augustine Lighthouse.
Much like yourself. Scary and beautiful.
Wow. The ultimate compliment. You're welcome.
Thank you. Wow, I really liked that one. because that one was like very wholesome.
It was. It really made me like... I was like, I can't stop, won't stop.
And there's also just... so much history with it i was like wow i want to go it made me feel like Not because I felt bad for all these like tragedies that happened there.
Yeah. But it also made me feel like, wow, like these keepers really loved this fucking lighthouse.
Yeah. Like I was like, damn i love that it's just like a nice thought um mine are not as like wholesome at all in fact my first lighthouse is called execution rocks lighthouse i love that uh it's in long island we love that and if you don't say long island then you're wrong Long Island.
We went through a period the other day where we just couldn't stop saying that.
So the execution rocks lighthouse. I'm going to tell you about it.
I love it. It is smack dab in the middle of New Rochelle City and Sands Point Village in Long Island.
Long Island. And it was built in 1849. And this is a fun fact.
Designed by a man named Alexander Paris.
Does that sound familiar? Yes, it does. He, fun fact, designed Boston's Quincy Market.
I knew that sounded familiar. When I was reading it, I was like, Alexander Paris, why do I know that name?
I wonder if he's related to Reverend Samuel Paris from the Salem.
You should Google that. I should. I'm going to look that up because all of a sudden I was like, wait a second.
We're in Boston. Double R. It might be.
Oh, my gosh. Imagine. I'll wait. Paris. Alexander Hamilton.
Samuel. Sam. Paris. Are you bros? Are you related?
We're just on like ancestry.com. We're going to check.
BRB. All right. There is an Alexander Paris that is related to him.
Okay. I'll look deeper into this and I'll let you know.
Okay, cool. A very interesting question.
Yeah. So yeah, Alexander Paris built this lighthouse and built more than just Boston Quincy's market.
He built a few other things. He built some stuff.
He was an architect. Some things and some buildings.
They do be building. They do. But... It wasn't until about like 20 years later that the Keeper's house was built right next to the lighthouse itself.
And before that, the keeper of the lighthouse would just sleep in the actual lighthouse itself.
That's amazing. For me, I feel like that sounds like one of the scariest things ever.
100% it does. And not only because this place is haunted, but because it's literally just in the middle of the ocean on a fucking- desolate ass island surrounded by scary rocks named execution rocks Yeah.
I also just generally live by the rule that if there's like not a target nearby it's not the homestead for me.
And I doubt there's a target nearby. There wasn't.
No. I don't think in 1849. No. Probably not.
Yeah. I don't know. So you had to be, like it goes without saying, a brave-ass human to decide to be the keeper of this lighthouse.
And because of the reputation of this area was like so haunted and fucking precarious.
It was actually the first case in which the US Lighthouse Board allowed the keeper to take the job without signing a contract.
Wow. Yeah. The book Spookiest Lighthouses by Terence Zepke, I think it is. suggested that this was because quote, the only way to entice applicants was to let them know they could leave whenever they wanted. oh my god like they were like so we would love for you to stay and take care of this lighthouse but we do understand that it is a desolate and scary as fuck and also a little bit haunted.
A little bit haunted. So you don't have to sign the dotted lines.
Like, so you know what? You leave whenever you want.
Yeah. You are not bound here. Yeah, so they're... you're sitting there and you're like okay it's haunted but like why do they need the option to leave like whenever they want yeah literally in the middle of the night Because this lighthouse is incredibly haunted.
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Bye. It got its name Execution Rocks because any ship that wrecked onto the rocks would lose all its passengers like right away.
Cool. Because they were just so intense.
Like immediately your boat would just be like goodbye.
Just shattered. Goodbye. Goodbye. Ciao. Tata for now.
Tata forever. And over the years, people just started saying...
That everyone on board was executed by the rocks.
Oh, that's really creepy, but like really metal.
Yeah. both yeah get you a rock who can do both yes and they did and they did the damn thing oof I'm also like I'm sure some of the hauntings came from the sailors who lost their lives on the rocks.
For sure. But sailors were not the only ones who lost their lives on the rocks.
Rocks, man. Say rocks again. These rocks could talk.
Rocks. Back in the day though, the British, they were trying to avoid doing public executions They didn't want to give the colonists another reason to be all pissed off at them.
Yeah, of course. So they decided on this other totally humane way to execute those who had broken the law.
And it involves rocks, so I'm sure it's completely fine.
It's super humane. They would bring the criminals to the rocks surrounding the island during low tide and chain them to said rocks.
Yeah, I see where this is going. And leave them there to wait until the tide would come in and eventually drown them.
Slowly. Yacht. Oh, inch by inch. Do you want to know how slow?
Yeah, the whole process of them being drowned would take 10 to 12 hours.
My. They would just slowly watch that water rise.
Yeah. And the tide would keep going in and out.
So like it would get a little bit closer, maybe cover like your waist and then go back out again.
And then coming even more and like you're starting to swallow water.
So you're drowning like as slow as humanly possible. girlies that's not humane girlies that is not humane that is not you are incorrect it was torturous And like if the whole process itself wasn't torturous enough, they, like some people said that they would apparently leave the bodies of the previously executed executed people there just still chained to the rocks I believe that in order to just scare the next batch of criminals that would be brought to their final Yeah.
Like this is what you have to look forward to.
Yeah. So people who lived nearby would hear the men like screaming. screaming from the beaches oh god and it went all hours of the night And still to this day, people report hearing screams coming from the island in the area of those rocks. yeah like that yeah yeah like that just like that louder though that was that was like not even in my control no that scream that just came out that's all i had that was an involuntary movement just yeah i don't like it that's like that's really gnarly the most that's very gnarly you think that's gnarly i do we're gonna yes it is gnarly yeah but we're gonna introduce the character that you know
That I know? That I love? No. Okay. I hope not, at least.
Oh, no. Okay, so according to that book that I mentioned earlier, Spookiest Lighthouses.
Spookiest. There was this psychic, and I know how you feel, but I think she was onto something.
Hey, some of them are. Yeah. She visited the lighthouse on one occasion and she said she felt the spirit of a quote, aggravated male.
Oh, there was an aggravated male energy in the air.
Can't believe her. Exactly. Yeah. You could just say that.
You could say that at like a Tedeschi's and you're probably right.
There's an aggravated male. Yeah. So looking into the history of the lighthouse and the area surrounding it, A lot of people have come to the conclusion that that man could be someone we've talked about on the show before.
One. Carl Pansram. Stop. Because he used the ocean surrounding the island to dispose of a good amount of people that he had murdered.
Yes, when you said Execution Rock, I remember being like, why do I know that?
But it just wasn't ringing a bell. He would literally throw the bodies like a hundred yards away from the lighthouse.
Holy shit. Yeah. Carl. Freaking Carl. Pans Ram.
Pans Mania. Yeah. Some people, so some people are like, okay, it could be Carl, definitely.
I mean, he was an aggravated male. He was an angry spirit.
That's one way to describe him. So they're like, it could be Carl or it could be one of the people who Carl murdered and then disposed of in the area.
Yeah. And interestingly enough, people who stayed at the lighthouse say that they feel pressure on their chests. especially in the living room of the house i guess and carl panserham did strangle a few of his victims yeah so i wonder if that could have something to do with it Oh, if Carl's just hanging out there, just like hurting people still.
I mean, I fully believe that he would do so.
100%. Or it could even be the feeling of like not being able to breathe because of all the people who drowned.
Right. Absolutely. So, while the Coast Guard was running and caring for the lighthouse before it became Automated.
Automated. Boo. Boo to automated lights.
Yeah, it's like, come on. I want it to be old school.
Wiley Keeper. We do. That's who we need.
So while they were still caring for it, some members of the Coast Guard who spent the night there said that the alarms would go off all the time and they couldn't figure out why and they could never find a source for it.
But there were actually two fires that took place in the history of the lighthouse.
So I got to feel like maybe it's the lighthouse itself.
Just trying to keep everybody on their toes.
Yeah. It's just like, Hey, you wake. Hey, are you up?
Be on alert. Hello. Just in case. So if you are like brave enough to spend the night at Execution Rock's lighthouse.
Sounds awesome. and maybe you want to experience something funky, you can spend the night.
Okay. You can spend the night. It doesn't really sound like a very luxurious experience.
So like keep that in mind. Okay. Keep that in mind when booking your stay.
Yeah, you have to take... I, I saw some people say that the boat ride was 25 minutes and other people say 45.
So obviously it just depends on where you're taking your boat from.
Yeah. But you have to be able to endure that boat ride, be able to climb a ladder onto the island itself.
Okay. It's literally... Like craggy rocks.
Yes. Like you pull up in your boat and then you have to like... reach over to the ladder and steady yourself and climb onto the island.
Whoa. Yeah. Like, no, thank you. And then if you want to go into like the lighthouse this way, you can do so.
There's a tiny little passageway That connects the lighthouse to the keeper's house.
Ooh. So you can go through there. I love it. love it i want to do that so bad but i have seen it recommended in literally every source on the lighthouse that you have to wear closed toe shoes I mean, that makes sense.
Also be aware that there is no running water.
Okay, I hate that. You also need to be prepared to spend the night on a cot if you are spending the night.
I mean, all that sounds pretty terrible.
It does. So I would like to make you aware that day trips are also available.
Okay, I was going to ask that. I was like I would like to do a day trip.
Yeah, maybe you're too scared of the hauntings or maybe you're like me and you're too scared of the lack of running water.
Yeah, see, that's where I'm out. Like, that's where I've checked out of this whole thing.
But, like, I'll go at night and do, like, a ghosty tour and then be like, bye.
I think you can. I saw that they did this cool Halloween boat ride around the area.
I love when they do that shit. Yeah, it was fun.
So you can do a day trip. You can do a night trip.
You can just do as you please. It's not that far either.
But please also be aware that according to visitalltheplaces.com, There are cannibalistic seagulls that live on the island, and there are apparently bird bones all over the place.
And this source, visitalltheplaces.com, had pictures.
Like, and there were bones everywhere. Oh. seagull bones just everywhere okay i mean as as not a seagull i feel okay with that like i'm like i don't want i'm i'm sorry seagulls but like i feel okay what if they become like what if they branch out yeah what if they branch out they're just like i'm sick of my own What if they eat too many seagulls and then there's none left and then they have to start eating humans?
Start coming at the tourists. I mean... I mean, bring a parasol, I suppose.
Yeah. And just whoop, whoop. get out of here that's our sounds of fighting off seagulls That's it.
So that's Execution Rock's lighthouse. Damn, I want to go there.
Yeah, it was recommended a lot in the, like... folder where we have it in the gmail but nobody had any experiences really So if you have had an execution rocks experience, I would love to hear about it.
Please tell us because we're going to go there at some point.
Yeah, Long Island. It's not that far at all.
How many fucking times have we been to Long Island?
Long Island. I love Long Island. We have family on Long Island.
Hi, cousins. Hello, cousins. You know who you are.
I hope. imagine if somebody was like i'm your cousin i'm whoa 23 and me i mean yeah I know my cousins, okay?
I know my cousins. I know most of them. i know them i know them whatever cousins you know what i mean It's losing all meaning.
It is. It's like rocks. Say rocks again.
Rocks. So my next lighthouse is Wood Island Lighthouse and it's in Saco Bay, Maine.
Oh, okay. We're staying on the East Coast.
I like it. Yeah, I didn't even do that on purpose.
These are places we can easily go to. I like that.
We could. So this lighthouse and Keeper's Home, they were built in 1808 by Benjamin Beale and Duncan Thaxter.
Yep. Like, I believe that. Yeah. I was like, I'm for that.
You were born to build things. Yeah. Lighthouses especially.
Or maybe not. Oh. The original lighthouse was about 45 feet tall and it stood next to the keeper's house, which was...
So fucking small. I was gonna say. When it was first built, it was a one-story home with measurements of 17 by 26 feet that's tiny that's a tiny that's like all you people out there that want tiny homes here you go that's tiny small that's tiny small close quarters if you will yeah you gotta be real friendly with whoever you live with hopefully you just live solo dolo yeah So the lighthouse itself actually had to be rebuilt multiple times.
I feel like a lot of them have to. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense because they're built in like the 1800s.
And next to the sea. Which is like that sea is going to eat that eventually.
That's how the sea rolls. But this one was built like horribly.
Um, the original builder's work was really bad.
And then the second build was somehow worse than the first.
Good. and just left plaster dripping into the ocean.
Cool. We're learning from our mistakes. We are.
We are, totally. Finally, in about 1854, we did learn from our mistakes because that's when the final build took place.
And in the rebuild, they actually attached the keeper's house to the lighthouse with like a covered walkway.
So it's very luxurious for late house vibes.
And eventually in the 1900s, a second story was added to the Keeper's House.
Look at that. We're moving up. I know. Luckily, the builder in 1854 knew what he was doing because It was the last time Wood Island Lighthouse needed to be restructured.
And today it's known as the second oldest lighthouse in Maine.
Oh, we love to see it. I know. Maybe the next, I don't know if this one is haunted, but it is the oldest in Maine.
Portland Headlight. oh i've heard that yeah yeah so hopefully i'm assuming that's haunted we'll look into it right in if you think it is yeah have you been there Yeah, I don't know.
So throughout the years, the lighthouse has had more than 200 keepers. whoa but one of the most famous keepers i said famous it's hard it's hard yeah One of the most famous keepers is Thomas Orcutt.
Or cut. And he served as keeper from 1886 to 1905.
Wow, look at him. Turn of the century. He started almost 80 years after the lighthouse was originally built, and he moved onto the island with his little dog, Sailor.
Yeah, he did. he did he did and in 1873 a fog bell tower was built near the lighthouse and a 1300 pound bell was placed inside damn thomas's dog sailor somehow learned to ring the bell for himself and even like even though there was an automated way for the bell to ring sailor was like us and he was like i'd like to keep it old school please yeah And he was like, I'm working in this lighthouse.
He became the famous bell ringer. Oh my God. stop that's precious anytime a ship would pass and sound off sailor would do the same in return that's precious oh my god can you imagine if you like sound off when you come in and you hear that bell ring and you're like thanks sailor it's sailor he became famous they wrote like multiple newspaper articles I love it.
Good for Sailor. I know. Get it, man. Thomas Orcutt was still serving as the keeper in the late 1890s when the island's most famous tragedy took place.
So I'm going to tell you a little story.
Tell me a story. In 1896. there were two 24-year-old guys living in a shack on the opposite side of the island.
It was a pretty big island. The shack was really supposed to be used as like a den for hens. but the man who owned the structure, Frederick Millikan, knew that these two men named Howard Hobbes and William Moses we're just like having hard times so he was like you know what why don't you just live there just pay me like a small amount in rent and like just don't be dicks Don't be dicks, all right?
That's really all I have to ask. Frederick was like a business kind of guy.
He was an officer and also a game warden. and he lived on the island in his own home.
Now, his home in the little shack where Hobbs and Moses lived Those were the only two buildings on the island other than the lighthouse and the keeper's house.
And like I said, they were on opposite sides of the 35 acre island.
Oh. So this is fucking huge. Yeah. So on Sunday, May 31st, 1896, William and Howard had spent the day drinking at Old Orchard which is hilarious because that was going on in 1896.
And it's still happening today. I was going to say, it doesn't feel different.
Like I've gone drinking at Old Orchard. A little snapshot.
I know, weird. I'm like, that's crazy. So they got to that point where their drinking was making them act a fool.
And at one point, the sheriff in Old Orchard actually detained them.
Oh, they were really acting a fool. Oh, they were acting a fool with a capital F. yeah so the sheriff detains him and they're like we're gonna put you in the drunk tank if you don't get your shit together yeah Somehow they were able to convince the sheriff that they would like clean their act up.
We're fine. But they didn't. No. They spent the night in Old Orchard and spent most of the next day in Old Orchard as well drinking the day away. oh i feel sick just listening to this i know honestly but they probably at that point needed like some hair of the dog Yeah.
So by the late afternoon, they were ready to make their way back home.
They hopped in their small boat and they headed toward Wood Island.
And when they got back to the island, they ran into their landlord, Frederick Milliken.
And they owed him some money. And they're acting a fool.
And they're acting a fool, which is of no interest to Frederick.
Yeah, I'm with Frederick. I'm not interested.
So they pass by and Milliken told Howard Hobbs that he needed to speak with him later on.
I think William Moses seemed to be doing all right with his rent, but it was really Howard Hobbs that was like not killing it with the rent game.
Come on, Hobbes. Yeah, it's like, don't keep buying beer.
You gotta pay for your hen den. Yeah. Okay.
You sure do. So Hobbes and Moses acknowledged Millikan and they were like, yep, we'll be out in just a minute.
Like, we're just going to go... Pee, I guess.
We're gonna go do those things. Yeah. So first they wanted to drop off their stuff at home. and Hobbes wanted to grab his rifle so that they could do some bird hunting.
So Moses knew that Hobbes had been drinking all day and he was still pretty drunk.
So he was like, maybe you should like leave that gun behind because you're like shit-faced. yeah and Hobbes was like I'm fine direct quote It is.
I took that from a newspaper. Yep. Rawr rawr rawr rawr.
You delivered it beautifully. Thank you so much.
You're welcome. I worked on it. I knew you did.
I know. I could tell. And he took his rifle with him.
He did. After his worm room. Yeah, of course he did.
He wasn't going to leave that rifle. He said it.
I heard it playing his day. He did. He said, I'm taking this with me.
Yeah. And then he said, I'm going to hunt some birds.
Yeah. So they walk back over toward Milliken's place.
And he notices the gun and he's like, is that loaded?
Because he's like, you're not in any position to be carrying around a loaded gun.
He's like, I'm a little fucking terrified of you right now.
Yeah. So Hobbs got within arm's reach as he told Milliken that the gun was not loaded.
But Milliken was like... Let me see that for myself and started to grab the gun away from him.
And that was not great. He reached forward, and as he did so, Hobbes picked up the gun.
And this was a rifle. Picked up the gun, does whatever he does with it, and shot Milliken point blank in the chest.
Oh no, Hobbes. And Millikan's wife had been standing in the doorway the entire time.
No. So she, her son, and William Moses were now witnesses to a crime.
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Bye. So Mrs. Milliken goes and gets her husband and like carries him inside and gets him settled because he's still breathing at this point.
Oh my God. And she has him lay down and she sends William Moses to get a doctor.
But he has to like row to another island to get a doctor.
Oh, fuck. to other land to get a doctor.
And she tries to get the gun away from Howard Hobbs.
She's like, you got to stop, like, get that out of here. you gotta stop shooting people please yeah so he gets mad and he threatens to shoot her too if she touches his gun he's like i don't want her touching my gun And apparently at this point, Frederick like raised his head, Frederick Millican, and was like, she's never done anything to you.
Like you leave her alone. Oh, what? You know, a man.
Yes, he's like dying from a gunshot wound.
Look at him. He's just like, no, I leave my my wife alone.
Yeah, you dick. You actual asshole. So instead of escalating the situation more, Mrs. Milliken looks at Howard and she's like, go get the lighthouse keeper.
Like we need somebody to come help. And remember, this is Thomas Orcutt.
I was like... what she sent him the guy who did it she is she certainly is i'm like i don't know if you should send him away thomas is fine i don't know okay cool So back then, lighthouse keepers were actually in charge a little bit.
They held some kind of authority. Yeah. So Thomas Orcutt needed to be aware that a man had just been shot on the island.
Yeah, that's a big deal. So as soon as Hobbes relays the story to Orcutt, the two men run back over to Millikan's home.
But they learn that he had died while they were on their way back.
Aww. and as soon as he heard howard hobbs rushed back with his shotgun in tow or not a shotgun his rifle in tow sits on his couch in his hen den, writes down a letter. saying that he's doing what he's about to do, and he shoots one shot into his right temple.
So when the police arrive on scene, Mrs. Milliken explained the whole situation and told him...
They told the police the only reason her husband wanted to speak with Mr. Hobbs was because he hadn't paid his rent in a while.
And there was no sign that any of this would have happened.
No, of course not. So these days, people who visit Wood Island claim that they hear shouting voices. and they can hear them from the lighthouse, and they will also see dark figures appear out of nowhere and vanish without a trace.
And a lot of people have come to the conclusion that the island is being haunted by Frederick Millican and Howard Hobbes.
Yeah, of course. I believe it. So, like, that's the end of that story.
Just ended really tragically. Yeah, that's, like...
Bummer. And now they're haunting the island.
Yeah, they are. And now, like, apparently there's some, like, wily mischievous ghosts or... other people are because during some restoration of the keeper's home and the lighthouse itself, the people working on the project would lose their tools or just like misplace different things. and then find them somewhere totally random and they were like, I definitely didn't put that there.
That's wily. It is wily. Yeah. And a set of keepers once thought that they had lost a bunch of wax pencils that they needed to post weather updates.
And they found an entire batch of them just hidden in a storage room.
Just hid them. I love that they're just hiding things.
I was like, I feel like Howard Hobbes is like getting litty titty in the afterlife and just doing this for a while.
100%. And like maybe Frederick Milligan is like, it's okay.
Like I'll help you hide this. We can bro out in the afterlife.
We can bro out after you murdered me after getting drunk.
Cold blunt. I know. For no reason after just getting drunk for two days.
Literally. On Orchard Beach. And I think he was drunk like all the time.
Yeah. It sounds like it. It does. So one night, some of the crew working on these restoration, they thought it would be a good night, a good idea. if they just spent the night on location because it was kind of a long drive for them.
Of course. They were like, we don't want to have to drive the next morning.
But they were up all night hearing different voices and they heard the shouting and... and they started hearing people running throughout the building but like they would wake up and all of them would be accounted for and they'd look around and no one would be there and like running yeah so they were like no like we are leaving And legend has it, they are not the only people who heard voices in the building.
And I couldn't find anything to validate this, but it's a fun haunted thing.
Yeah. Well, it's not fun. But there was once a keeper who was also driven so crazy by all the voices that he was hearing.
So he jumped off the roof of the lighthouse to his death. oh damn legend has it legend has it and that is wood island lighthouse damn Wow, we hit some good lighthouses.
We really did. And I'm so like, I was like, there was a couple that I wanted to put on my list, but then this would have been like 400 years long.
Exactly. So I'm already. ready for the next one.
Oh, and now we can just keep going with them because this is so much fun.
I would love to open up the next one with a tale about one of the lighthouses we talked about today.
So if you have been to Wood Island... Lighthouse, Execution Rocks Lighthouse, or St.
Augustine Lighthouse. Mhm. Let us know about your experience.
Yeah. And keep sending any of them in because we also like like we did today, we opened up with one we're doing today. and one that we've already done and it's really cool to have that like yeah it's fun interconnected in there So this has been awesome.
And you can send those to morbidpodcast at gmail.com.
And just put like lighthouse or spooky lighthouse in the subject.
I was like, what's that? Anything with just to make sure we know it's a lighthouse thing.
Yeah. And then we can pick it out pretty easily and it's easier just to like organize that way.
Yeah. But you guys have been awesome. We're excited to make this a spooky week.
I am like, I'm living in the spooky zone right now.
Oh, fully in the spooky mood. I feel like I can like hear it in my own voice.
I think you know what I think happens? This happens to me every year.
What? We get closer to June when like summer's about to begin and I feel more and more like I need fall.
It's like as soon as June hits, I'm like, okay, well I'm over this.
I want fall. And I'm already in that mode of like, we're nearing summer and I want fall.
I also want fall, but I can smell it. It's coming.
It's, yeah. It's coming. For sure. It's a few months.
It's not that far away. I mean, a few months it will be summer, but...
Yeah. It's four months till pre-October.
That's not bad. Really not. Four months is nothing.
That makes me nervous because then that's only like a year until my wedding.
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