Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another Simplified Speech episode here at Q-Lips.
For those of you who don't know, Simplified Speech is our series that features clear, natural and easy to understand conversations between native speakers.
Joining me today as my co-host is Indiana.
Hello, Indiana.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, Andrew.
Happy holidays.
Yeah, happy holidays.
Feels still a little awkward for me to say that, because I think we're like very, very early into the holiday season, in my opinion, Indiana.
We're recording this on December the 2nd and listeners will probably hear it a few days later.
Kind of early for me, but I guess it's that time of the year when we have to start saying it.
Happy holidays.
And guys, that's what we're going to talk about in this episode today is we are going to talk about the holiday season.
So Indiana and people in the USA, they just celebrated Thanksgiving.
So we're going to do a Thanksgiving recap episode. and learn about how Indiana spent Thanksgiving.
And then we're going to shift to Christmas and talk about how we're preparing for the upcoming Christmas and holiday season and all of the things that we do to celebrate this holiday.
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Okay, Indiana Thanksgiving.
Let's talk about it.
Turkey time.
Did you eat turkey for Thanksgiving?
I did not.
So that you're right to ask about turkey, because that is traditional for Thanksgiving in the United States.
That's like the standard main dish for your Thanksgiving feast.
But my husband and I and my parents-in-law are vegetarians.
So we skipped turkey.
There was no meat at our Thanksgiving dinner.
Instead, for a couple of mains, we had lentil stuffed squash and some corn chowder and an egg and onion tart.
And cheese was in that too, so for a little protein there.
But it was it was we had a lot of other food.
And although there was no turkey, there was plenty of food.
And what we did at my house, I actually hosted Thanksgiving this year, which was really fun.
But we did a potluck style Thanksgiving.
And so a potluck is where every guest brings something to share, whether it's like a drink or a dessert or a dish for the dinner.
And then the stress and the burden of creating a massive feast for all of your family is a lot less yeah, a lot easier to manage.
So I really like potluck style parties.
And yeah, that's what we did this year.
It was a lot of fun.
It was good.
Nice.
How many people did you host for the potluck?
I was supposed to be seven.
My parents-in-law, my brother-in-law, and then my mom and my stepdad.
But unfortunately, my mother-in-law got a cold like at the last minute and she stayed home.
So it was just six of us, which was actually the perfect size for my dining room.
So it was okay.
But we missed having my mother-in-law there.
Yeah yeah okay yeah, i agree the potluck is a great way to do it, because the burden of doing all of the cooking and the burden, i guess, of doing all of the dishes i don't know, did you still have to do all of the dishes?
I kind of insist.
Usually when i have people over, like i, i would rather have uh, space in my kitchen and just like do the cleaning really quickly and let everybody else hang out, not just to be a nice host.
But there's this expression in English too many cooks in the kitchen, or just too many cooks.
And that basically means when there's too many people helping, it can actually become less helpful in the long run.
So somebody will say, hey, where does this dish go?
Where does this plate go?
Where do I put this?
And then instead of actually cleaning, I'm answering questions.
And then if somebody puts something in the wrong place, that's like.
You know, it's just easier to have one person, maybe two people.
Yeah.
Too many cooks.
So I'm kind of like, get out of my kitchen.
All clean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's always awkward when you're a guest, right?
You want to help.
You don't want to just like sit there and relax while the host is doing all the work.
But at the same time, when you're in somebody's kitchen and you don't know where all of the dishes go and how their kitchen is organized, then it can be like very difficult to actually be helpful.
And you are more of just like a pain in the neck, so.
Yeah.
And like when I go to my parents-in-law's house And I like try to put things away in the dishwasher to help.
I noticed that my father-in-law sometimes like kind of sneakily, rearranges all of the dishes that I've put away in the dishwasher because it's not like his system or the most efficient way.
So I might as well just not do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, cool.
What about some of the other big Thanksgiving traditions that are popular in the USA?
I wanted to just throw a couple by you.
And maybe you could comment on them quickly.
The first one that I remember sometimes I would even watch it growing up in Canada it would be on TV in Canada is the Thanksgiving Day Parade.
Is that still a big thing?
Yeah, I, well, I guess I don't have cable, but everything's on streaming.
Like, I usually used to watch that every year.
I don't know when I stopped, but it's definitely still a thing.
And I think yeah, pretty common to just have it on in the background while you're cooking or getting ready for dinner.
That and there's a dog show, which is hosted, I think, by a guy who was on Seinfeld.
I forget his name, but he's like a pretty famous guy.
He has a unique voice and they always have a dog show and the Macy's Day Parade.
I think those are definitely still very watched by many, heavily watched by people in the US.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York City, right?
And Macy's is the big department store brand that sponsors the parade.
And it's kind of like the kickoff to the Christmas season.
You see all these different floats.
And a float is like the name of the display that... goes down the road in the parade, right?
And there are lots of different colorful ones.
And I think the last one is the Santa, if I remember correctly.
And so Santa is kind of like welcoming in Christmas.
And so yeah, that is the parade.
And then I also think of football on Thanksgiving.
I imagine that a lot of families tune in and watch football, but I have a feeling maybe you're not a football watcher.
Do you tune in to watch the Thanksgiving Day football game?
I can't even remember the last time I watched the Super Bowl.
So no, I definitely don't watch football on Thanksgiving.
Not a sports girl.
But yeah, you're right.
I mean, I feel bad for that.
Well, not really because they're making millions of dollars, but I feel bad for the football players who have to play on Thanksgiving.
Sure yeah yeah, a lot of them do actually end up having to work on the holidays, right on thanksgiving and christmas, but i would do it too for that amount of money.
Don't get me wrong, i'd be there.
Another sports related one that i think about on thanksgiving is actually related to running, and so maybe i know you are a runner as well, so maybe you know about this one.
That is, the turkey trot.
What is the turkey trot?
Do you know about this?
Yeah, I've never participated in one, but it's really common in the US, or maybe it's also in.
Well no, I wouldn't be in Canada.
You guys have Thanksgiving in Canada, right?
But it's a different day.
And it's like, kind of different vibes, right?
Sorry to completely derail your topic.
But yeah, does it exist in Canada?
Yeah, yeah.
We have Thanksgiving, except it varies from year to year.
So it's not a fixed day.
And this year it was way back in early October, if I recall correctly.
And it's kind of weird.
We celebrate it exactly the same way as American Thanksgiving.
Same traditional food, same like family oriented holiday.
We also watch football on Thanksgiving.
My dad always has the football game, the CFL, the Canadian Football League.
And so I think it's really the same, but there is a little bit different historical origin and yeah, a slightly different background to the holiday.
But yeah, we finished our Thanksgiving way back in October.
So maybe you guys have the turkey trot too, but yeah, there's, it's like a local race basically.
Yeah.
And maybe it's a 5k race, something not too crazy long.
But yeah, I've never participated in one, but those are definitely really popular.
I see a lot of Instagram posts from friends who participate in them on Thanksgiving.
Yeah, yeah, the turkey trot, just like a friendly 5k race, I think.
And a lot of people like to maybe do some exercise on the day because they know they're going to be pigging out and eating a lot that evening, right?
So I think maybe that's why people do it.
It's like get some exercise in the morning with this run.
And yeah, because everybody's not working because of the holiday, then you get lots of people participating and then later on,
You can go and eat your Thanksgiving meal and yeah, not feel as guilty about eating a lot of food.
Okay.
Indiana, why don't we shift to Christmas and talk about the Christmas season here?
And I'm wondering in your mind, when do you think of as the official start of the Christmas season?
When does it start for you?
I get in the Christmas spirit or more in the mood for the holiday.
I'm feeling like it started maybe around the 20th, the 21st.
The week of Christmas is when I really feel excited about it and ready to listen to Christmas carols.
But practically, I think, the second Thanksgiving is over.
The Christmas carols and jingles start playing in the supermarket and everybody starts putting up their holiday lights and decorations.
And so it's kind of unavoidable as soon as December starts.
So that is also why I said happy holidays because, whether I agree with it, we are kind of at least in the US in that season.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, we're exactly on the same page because I agree.
I think it's spread out too long.
Like I would love it if it was just the week of Christmas.
Like, I don't know, Christmas is on December 25th.
So maybe we started decorating the house and playing Christmas carols and getting Christmassy around like December 18th 19th, something like that would be perfect.
And then, yeah, it's just like this really special, unique time of the year.
However, now it's so long, like here in Seoul.
I know exactly the day because I ran a marathon on November 2nd and on November 1st, the day before the marathon.
My friend and I went to this marathon pop-up event that was in one of the big department stores here in Seoul.
So that was November 1st, the day after Halloween.
And we went to the department store.
It was all decked out for Christmas.
Big Christmas trees, Christmas lights everywhere, Christmas music playing.
All I want for Christmas is you playing on repeat already playing. on November 1st.
So that's like almost a full two months before Christmas.
And I was just losing my mind.
I was like, this is too much.
I can't handle it.
It's too long.
Why is it so long?
I don't get it.
That is so interesting because I figured that was maybe not uniquely American, but like, if I think of the United States, I think of like consumerism and heavy on the you know okay, we're gonna push the product in the supermarket as soon as we can, you know or the, the department store.
So here i, i'm used to that i, i get that vibe.
But in korea too, so in seoul, like on the november 1st, so do yeah, i.
I'm curious andrew, how extensively Is Christmas celebrated in Korea?
Or like, what kinds of decorations do you see?
Or like, yeah, I wouldn't expect it to be such a big thing.
But yeah, tell me about it in Seoul.
Yeah, I would say that in terms of like looking Christmassy, it's almost the same as North America.
There are Christmas trees everywhere.
Now people don't put up Christmas lights outside of their home because most people live in big apartment towers.
So it's kind of impractical.
However, like uh, in my neighborhood there's a big intersection and at the intersection there's a big christmas tree that's there.
So it's like right in the middle of the neighborhood, this big christmas tree with lots of beautiful lights.
And if you go down into the subway stations, a lot of the subway stations have christmas lights and are decorated, And now I think sometimes these are sponsored by local churches.
So a church will like put up a Christmas tree, and I don't know.
They just want to decorate it and the subway station says sure, do it.
But stores are really Christmassy.
I was walking around a neighborhood in downtown Seoul the other night with my wife and she Almost every little restaurant or cafe that we passed by had a Christmas tree and Christmas lights and actually felt really Christmassy.
It was almost, I felt like I was in like Sweden or something.
I was like, here we are in Seoul, but it felt like this really Christmas vibe.
It was actually pretty nice.
So.
I would say yes, absolutely.
Visually, it's everywhere.
You can't really avoid it, at least in the downtown part of Seoul.
Maybe some countryside places are not as much.
But yeah, here in the city, definitely.
And even it was my father-in-law's birthday celebration the other day.
So my wife's side of the family, we all got together and we celebrated his birthday at a restaurant.
And I was complaining to my wife after.
I'm like, so annoying that they were playing Christmas music the whole time.
Because in the background they had like Christmas music, not singing and not carols, but just instrumental like piano.
Like you know, that light jazzy, Christmassy background music.
Yes.
Yeah.
Actually I asked my wife.
I was like, did you pick up that those were all classic Christmas tunes that they were playing the whole time?
And she's like, no, I didn't even notice.
So I think for a lot of maybe Korean people, they don't know about that.
Like they maybe didn't grow up listening to all of the Christmas carols and Christmas music.
So my wife, or maybe my wife just didn't even register.
Maybe she wasn't listening to the background music.
But for me...
Because I'm a Grinch and because I think the Christmas season is too long, I was like a little frustrated.
I was like, oh, why do they have to play all this Christmas music?
Still November at that time in the background while we're eating dinner.
So yeah, it just goes to show that Christmas really is everywhere here in Seoul, at least.
Wow.
Well, I learned something new today.
I would not have expected that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is a public holiday here as well.
I know in other Asian countries like Japan and like China, I think people do celebrate to an extent in those places.
And guys, if you're listening in Japan or China or other Asian countries, maybe you can chime in and let us know what it's like at home for you.
But I think, yeah, here in Seoul, it actually is a public holiday and people do take the day off.
And I don't know how each individual celebrates.
Maybe some people are really, really into it and some people couldn't be bothered at all.
And it's just like a free holiday for them.
Score.
But yeah, it is a day off, is a public holiday.
So that's nice.
Nice for me, at least.
So, okay, you don't like to decorate your home until maybe the week before Christmas.
Do you do anything to like decorate your home?
Do you put up a Christmas tree?
Do you have any Christmas lights?
Anything like that?
No, I really don't.
And part of it is like kind of laziness because I don't like, I don't know.
It takes a long time to set up a really nice light display and to like neatly wrap them around like shrubs or bushes, or around your doorframe.
So there's that aspect of it.
I think just a little bit of laziness.
But also my husband is Jewish and does not really celebrate Christmas.
So there's no sort of push or excitement from him to do that kind of thing either.
So yeah, we really don't decorate or anything like that, but yeah.
Yeah, one thing I do like to do, though, is make Christmas cookies.
I usually do that sometime around the week of Christmas, maybe before or after.
Sometimes I do that with my mom, sometimes just alone.
But there's some traditional ones that are common in the US that I like to make.
There's a kind called snowball cookies.
So they look like little snowballs.
It's like a cookie made of ground walnuts or almonds and flour and a lot of butter, and then you roll them twice after you bake them.
They're ball-shaped, and you roll them in confectioner's sugar, powdered sugar.
And those are just great.
Like, they're really good.
And they're clearly, you know, festive in the sense that they look like snow and it's wintertime.
So those are cute.
And another one I really like to make is peanut butter blossoms.
So it's like a peanut butter cookie that you stick –
A Hershey's kiss in the center of, and then you put it back in the oven for a second and it kind of melts just a little bit and get soft.
And that's like another really great cookie.
There's a bunch of classic ones, but I think those are usually staples of mine.
I usually try to make those every year.
Wow.
Well, longtime Q-Lips listeners will know that my favorite food is peanuts and peanut butter.
So that second cookie caught my attention.
I would love to try that.
That sounds delicious.
Have you never had one?
Have you had or seen them before?
I don't think I've had one, to be honest.
I'm trying to think of my mom's classic baking Christmas baking because my mom would always bake up a storm when I was younger.
And she still does, but I'm just not home to take advantage of all the baking.
But my mom would make date squares.
I don't know if you know what a date square is.
I can imagine it maybe, but no, I've never heard of that.
It's almost like you use a baking pan, almost like a casserole dish, some longer pan with some depth to it.
Maybe you could think of brownies.
It's kind of the same as brownies.
And then so you make this big pan dessert and date squares.
It's like you have this crumbly, almost granola on the bottom.
And then in the middle, you have dates like that dried fruit.
And then on the top, you have another crumbly kind of granola.
And then you'd bake that and then cut it into little squares.
And yeah, date squares.
Those were always delicious.
Yeah.
What else would she make?
Nanaimo bars?
This is a very Canadian dessert.
I'm sure you probably have never tried a Nanaimo bar.
Do you know what that is at all?
You know what?
I went back one time into the Q-Lips archive and I listened to an episode that you did where you mentioned Nanaimo bars.
So I have heard of them, but that was the only time in my life.
Wow.
But yeah, I've quickly forgotten.
So please remind me what exactly the ingredients are.
Yeah, an Nanaimo bar is, it's like chocolate on the top.
Again, it's cut into a square, guys.
So it's like, think about a size of a brownie again.
And yeah, chocolate on top.
And there's some kind of yellow sweet filling in the middle.
I think it's a kind of custard.
And then sometimes...
It's been a while since I've had one.
They were never my favorite because they're so sweet.
It's a very sweet dessert and I'm not a big sweet kind of guy.
So I can't say exactly, but an Nanaimo bar my mom would make.
And then also she would make like cookies as well.
Christmas cookies, various different types.
Maybe gingerbread is a classic Christmas cookie.
And also...
She would make this dessert called almond roca, which is like this brittle candy made with almonds, almond roca and chocolate on the top with some peanuts.
Very good.
So my mom would always bake up a storm.
And I haven't carried that tradition on at all.
I don't think I do any Christmas baking at all, unfortunately.
But maybe I will this year.
Maybe I'll get that recipe for the what were they called?
The peanut butter drops.
Is that what you call them?
Peanut butter blossoms.
I looked them up before recording because I wanted to check that I didn't just make up a name for them.
And yes, that's what most of the recipes call them.
Peanut butter blossoms.
Peanut butter blossoms.
Okay.
Indiana, do you have a favorite Christmas song?
Oh, that's a great question, because there's so many awful Christmas songs that you never want to hear again.
At least I feel that way.
Oh, that's a great question.
Honestly, because I love David Bowie, I feel like his rendition of Little Drummer Boy, which he did.
Oh gosh, that's embarrassing that I can't remember the name of the other guy.
Um, burl ives maybe maybe oh, but no, i don't think it was burl ives.
Um, but somebody like that yeah, i'm sure if, if uh listeners are interested, they also like david bowie.
Just look up david bowie, little drummer boy.
It's a cool song, it's a duo.
Yeah, let me do it right now.
Little drummer boy, i'm curious as well.
Who is it?
Ah, bing crosby.
Bing Crosby yes, because he does a lot of Christmas songs.
Yeah, and there's a video of them and it's very kind of.
I don't know if it's what's a good word for it.
It seems a little stiff or it's, I don't know.
There's an interesting vibe between David Bowie and Bing Crosby in the video.
It's worth a watch.
It's a good classic song.
Okay, bing crosby and burl ives and uh, david bowie.
Yeah yeah oh, sorry.
Yeah, bing crosby and david bowie.
Now why do i have burl ives in my head?
Burl ives guys, is like this old, old-time american singer and i think he did like some famous christmas records.
So yes, i think so.
Yeah, that's why he popped into my my mind.
I was thinking Indiana, and maybe I'd like to get your opinion on this, because I know you're a music person, but I would contend, I would argue, that there hasn't been a good Christmas song written for at least like 25, 30 years.
I want to say that the last good Christmas song is probably Mariah Carey All I Want for Christmas is You, which unfortunately has been killed because it's been overplayed so so much that i think it's a really good song, but it was just overplayed to an extreme amount so that yeah, it's difficult to listen to these days.
But since then i don't think there's been really any good christmas songs, which is unfortunate because in the 80s we had like David Bowie and Paul McCartney and all of these big, massive pop stars writing these really catchy Christmas songs.
But now maybe I'm just not listening maybe, like there are some great artists making Christmas music and it just hasn't become classic yet.
I'm not sure.
But what do you think about my argument?
Would you agree or disagree?
I think you're probably right that there's not a lot of good new Christmas songs, but when I was a DJ at college and I was DJing for my college radio station, I would do a Christmas show and I would try to find alternative Christmas songs.
And there's a lot of artists that, like you and I, would both love or recognize, who have covered many Christmas songs.
And it's refreshing to hear something that's not played like nonstop for the entire month of December on the radio.
So there's a lot of good covers out there by artists that are good that maybe don't get a lot of airplay.
But I think you could be right that new fresh, completely original Christmas music there's not a lot of it.
I think Sufjan Stevens.
I actually don't know how you pronounce his name, but he might have made a Christmas album or has his own Christmas music, so he could be an exception.
But no, I think you're right.
There's not a lot of original Christmas stuff that's very good.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm.
I don't know.
Sufjan Stevens.
I also don't know how to pronounce his name, but it's S-U-F-J-A-N, I believe is the spelling of his first name.
So some people say Sufjan, some people say Sufjan, kind of a more like European way.
I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but a very interesting American songwriter who's created a lot of classic indie albums.
And I could imagine his music is very... magical sounding a lot of times.
So that would be a great fit for him to write some Christmas music.
So I'll check that one out.
Yeah, I think he has.
If not in a whole album, I think there are at least a few songs.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So Indiana, the last thing we'll talk about here maybe is the cherry on top, the creme de la creme, and that is gift giving, which is a big part of Christmas.
And also for me, maybe the most stressful part, and I get stressed out for... a couple of reasons.
First is I have people in my life asking me, what do you want?
What do you want for Christmas?
My parents will ask me, my wife will ask me, and my answer is always like nothing.
I don't need anything.
I'm good.
I'm okay.
However, people hate to hear that answer because they want to give something, right?
It's like Christmas is about showing your love and affection and care through a present and giving somebody something that they need.
But I really feel like I don't technically need anything.
My life is pretty comfortable, which is great.
And so yeah, I always say like, oh, you don't have to buy me anything.
Don't worry about it.
But they don't like that.
So that causes me stress.
I have to think of something that I don't probably really need.
But then at the same time, I'm also in that similar situation where I want to buy gifts for my family and buy a gift for my wife.
And that always is difficult too, because when I think about it I'm like my wife technically doesn't really need anything, you know.
So it's like, it's tough.
I don't know.
Maybe because of your husband not celebrating Christmas, maybe it's easy for you.
Do you guys exchange gifts at all?
Does he buy you a gift for Christmas at all?
We used to do that, but not in the past few years.
So yeah, it's pretty easy for me.
I just have to worry about my mom and my stepdad for Christmas.
We have the smallest Christmas ever.
So the gift giving, although it's still stressful.
I completely understand everything that you've said.
I hate coming up with a list of things I want.
It feels selfish and Like also, if I really want something and I know like the right thing that I want, I can just save up and buy it myself, you know.
But but it is really nice to exchange gifts or have some sort of surprise.
So I also yeah, I have mixed feelings about it too.
But if anything that I would say to make it easier, I would say like consumables, something that you can use and then not keep forever, like some really nice coffee or like a sugar scrub for like the bath or something like those kinds of things.
I feel like pretty good about asking for or giving, because you know they're not going to be cluttering up somebody's house forever.
And yeah, I don't know, something you could eat or put on your body like that, I think is great.
Kind of a safe gift that, yeah, it'll go away eventually.
Yeah.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, that's very good.
This year my wife and I have decided just to do a simple gift exchange and not go all out and spend like a lot of money and be very elaborate, anything like that.
So we've set a budget of around $20, $20 American dollars, which is like pretty low, right?
Yeah.
That is low.
Yeah, we've we've decided just to keep it very low key this year.
And so now I at first when my wife suggested this, I was like, yeah, let's do it.
And now I'm already feeling a little bit stressed.
Like, what should I buy her?
I don't know.
Because it's not a lot of money.
But yeah, I guess I could buy something like what you just mentioned, like probably a bath bomb or, you know, a bag of coffee or something.
But does that really show like a lot of care and love from a husband to a wife?
I'm not sure.
So guys, I'm stressed out about this.
And if you have any great ideas about something you think that I could Give her I'm all ears.
I'm open to your suggestions.
Let me know what you think would make a great $20 or under Christmas gift.
Maybe I was thinking like a lot of little mini things.
Maybe if I could find five or six small things, maybe I'll have to go to the dollar store.
I'm not sure, but it could be more fun to open like several different little gifts than one kind of small one, or maybe like a used book or used record.
I'm not sure.
I just did a scavenger hunt for my husband's birthday.
I ordered a bunch of German licorice that you can't really buy in the United States, so I ordered it from Europe.
And I hid them all over the house and made cryptic clues for him to find them.
So that could add a layer at no cost for a bunch of tiny gifts if you feel creative in that way.
I love that idea, the scavenger hunt.
That would be fun.
Also, one of my favorite things growing up as a kid was the Christmas stocking, Christmas stocking.
So that would be like, yeah, the classic gift from Santa Claus with this big like sock, right?
That's like, usually doesn't look like a sock though.
It's like this really beautifully knit, large sock shaped stocking.
And in the Christmas stocking there would be lots of different candy and like little gifts, little mini things, which was always really fun to open.
And my parents always insisted that was the first thing that my siblings and I open.
So that was always like the kickoff to the Christmas Day gift celebration.
And I always really loved that.
So maybe I'll prepare a Christmas stocking that could be fun for my wife.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Okay.
Well, Indiana, I think we've gone on enough here about Christmas.
I hope that was a good enough discussion for you.
I hope you enjoyed listening to this episode and all the other listeners out there as well, guys.
I know because we have a global audience that, you know, we have listeners from all different backgrounds and cultural traditions and some people celebrate Christmas, others don't.
But still, we wanted to give you some insight into how we celebrate this holiday because yeah, we do celebrate it.
So we hope you enjoyed listening to it and learning with it.
If you are ready for more, if you need a study guide for this episode, if you want the interactive transcript and also if you would like to join the speaking class, because we'll probably have a speaking class related something to do maybe not exactly with Christmas, but about maybe the wintertime and how we celebrate some of these different holidays and traditions in the winter.
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All right.
Well, Indiana, that's going to bring us to the end for this episode.
So thank you again.
And we'll talk to you next time, everybody.
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