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We have some fun stuff for you today to kick off this episode.
I'll start with a great background catch. Diego Effio spotted this Andy's nickname while he is playing Call of Duty is Here Comes Trouble, his acapella group.
And Karen's is Karen the Jim Slayer.
Ooh. I remembered that one, but I forgot that Andy's was Here Comes Treble.
Well, we also got some mail about a scene that was added to the superfan version.
Hall's06 wrote in and said, Do you have any info or tidbits about Jan's visit to Stanford and the interaction with Jim regarding the meeting with Dwight?
I had never seen that clip and thought it was so funny and strange.
Okay, so I went and I watched the scene.
it does seem like it's out of nowhere.
Jan's behavior is so different she's jokey, and she clearly likes the Stamford branch better.
And I wanted to read how it was in the shooting draft. I have no memory of Jan visiting Stanford. It's in the superfan version.
Okay. Yeah. But here's how it was scripted.
And it was in the shooting draft so they you know they did shoot it.
It starts with this narration as Jim turns to Karen he sees that he is reading Jan, who has just entered.
Jan says, hello, Jim.
How's work? Jim feels caught because they're playing Call of Duty.
He says, good. Jan casually walks over to his computer, hits some keys to explode a grenade killing his soldier.
Jan laughs. Someone turns the lights back on.
And then Jan says, Jim, I'm meeting with Josh now, but remind me to tell you before I go what Dwight said to me earlier.
You'll get a kick out of it.
And she's like all jokey.
and it says she heads into the conference room Karen smiles at Jim and then Jim has a talking head where he says things are a little different in Stanford. It's not so bad.
Wow. Yeah. Joki Jan in Stamford. Who knows call of duty and who like typed in some stuff and ruined Jim's game.
I see what you mean.
Mm hmm. I also wanted to share some extended footage from the deleted scenes.
I'll set it up for you.
It would have happened at the very beginning of the cold open.
It's about movie Monday and Michael has gathered everyone in the conference room but there is someone missing.
We discussed this a little bit in our breakdown but there is one person who refuses to attend.
Do you know who it is?
Is it Stanley? Let's hear it you'll find out.
Let's go! Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go!
Everybody here? Yes.
Where's Angela? Where's Angela?
No. Not everyone approves of Movie Monday.
I won't say who. I don't approve.
I don't. Dwight... Oh, it's you.
It's me. Well, I have to imagine pretty much any movie Michael would choose, Angela would not be a fan.
No, and also it just goes to her rule following.
Like, what are we doing?
Are we working today or are we watching a movie?
Well, we also got a lot of mail because this is the episode with the CRENTUS theme, one of my favorites.
And we got this letter that made me chuckle from Lee B.
who said, I had a pain management doctor named...
I know. I know. It's so funny.
I can't even say it.
I know! Named - I'm sorry it's ridiculous.
I know it is the same as Prentice, the dentist. Yeah okay.
Lee's pain management doctor's name was, I can't get it out, it was Dr. Bochter.
So silly! Dr. Bochter!
Lee said I heard this scene in my head every time I had an appointment.
I don't know how I could not have Dr .Bachter as my doctor.
I couldn't. Dr .Bachter.
Could you? No, it's too funny.
Oh my goodness. Well, lastly, I thought we could wrap up with a candy bag alt.
It was a Creed talking head about Dwight and Angela's Macbeth -like storyline in this episode.
And it read like this, Creed says, I'll bet the blonde girl loves this.
She's been sleeping with Dwight for oh, I'd say about a year now.
Oh my goodness! So I think they were really debating on who's going to out Dwight and Angela.
And they played around with maybe the idea of it being Creed in this episode.
Wow, I love it! There you have it, and now here is our breakdown of the coup.
I'm Jenna Fischer. And I'm Angela Kinze.
We were on The Office together.
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Season 3, Episode 3, written by Paul Lieberstein and directed by Greg Daniels.
You know what I would really love?
What? A summary? Guess what Angela!
I have a summary. Wait, by the way, why did I say that almost like Cookie Monster?
A summary? Like, I don't know.
Here is my summary.
It's a little bit like Stacey.
Oh, it is. It's got some Stacey undertones.
We're all Kevin. It's a little cookie monster mixed with Kevin.
Here's my summary. Michael gets into hot water with Jan after she catches him throwing a movie Monday in the office neglecting work.
So egged on by Angela, a .k .a Lady Macbeth, she convinces Dwight to undermine Michael by meeting up with Jan in an attempt to steal the manager position.
You're going to see a whole new side of Steve Carell that is amazing in this episode.
At the same time, Kelly convinces Pam to have a fashion show, fashion show, fashion show at lunch. Fast fact number one.
So this is a very, very big Rainn Wilson, Dwight, Angela, Michael episode.
When you say, this is like, the three of you are really driving this episode.
I mean, we have this weird love triangle, if you will.
Yes, I mean, it's true.
I feel like I'm in love with Dwight.
He's in love with Michael.
Yeah, it's weird. Well, we really wanted Rainn Wilson to come on the podcast this week, and Rainn Wilson wanted to come on the podcast this week.
But guess what? If you can believe it, we had some technical issues that kept us from being able to make that happen.
However, Rainn Wilson did send in some audio clips and we're going to sprinkle those in throughout.
So he will be making an appearance, although very soon he will be making like an appearance appearance.
I'm so bummed about the dang Wi -Fi of it all, you guys, it gets glitchy, it gets glitchy up in here.
I don't know, what am I even talking like?
Am I 21 in the club?
What am I doing? Glitchy up in here.
Oh baby that's not 21 in the club.
It's not? I mean I hope it's not.
Is it - It's getting glitchy up.
You think when you're 21 in the club you talk about glitchy Wi -Fi?
Glitchy up in here.
That could be your undies and a wad.
It could be anything.
Alright! You know what I'm saying?
Glitchy up in here could mean a lot of things But apparently when you're 48 in your converted tough shed that you made into an office, you say is glitchy up in here.
We are so sorry that it's hash tag glitchy up in here, but we're going to figure it out.
We're going to figure it out.
So, listen, my fast fact, number one, is that even though this episode is the love triangle of Michael Dwight and Angela, there was a big Internet stir, as the kids would say.
Do they say that? Do they say there's a stir on the Internet?
Pretty much, you and I have our finger on the pulse of the hip lingo.
Do they say the Internet was a stir?
The Internet was a stir with the fact that this episode has the first Jim Caron flirt.
Oh, I know. Oh Angela, the internet was a buzz.
Was it a buzz? Well, you know what?
I like the internet was a stir.
All right. That's what I'm going to say now.
Is glitchy up in here, and the internet was a stir about it.
Oh, doll face. Oh doll face.
So yes, the flirt begins.
The distance between Jim and Pam is growing.
They are not in touch, even though Jim does bring Pam up a couple of times in this episode.
The message boards blew up.
Do you remember that?
After this episode came out, a lot of strong feelings.
A lot of strong feelings.
A lot of strong feelings.
Poor Rashida. Rashida was like, I'm going to go into hiding.
People hate me. Except that she's so cute in this episode.
She's so stinking cute.
And you know what? She doesn't know about Pam.
It's not her fault.
She's not doing anything wrong.
People were just hating on Karen, but Kara's not doing anything wrong yeah I mean do you think Jim ever told Karen about Pam probably not why would bring that up why would he bring that up also for some weird reason the only person Jim ever really confides into is Michael yeah no he did not tell Karen about Pam no way all right well this is leading me in to fast fact number two, Angela you have a fast fact for us today about Karen.
I do, I have a fast fact about Karen.
So Karen's name Karen Filippelli was based off an NBC exec named Rachel Filippelli and this is just a classic Greg Daniels move that he loved to use people's names that he actually knew, I feel like all of our writers would probably pitch names of people they already knew but Rachel Phillip Eli was an exec and where she just said she actually met her so Karen Phillip Eli was based off of Rachel Phillip Eli Greg did that all the time mm -hmm if you knew Greg you better bet your name is gonna end up in one of his shows also part of fast fact to Jenna I don't know if you remember this but Rashida would sometimes
spill things on set and she got the nickname of spill Spillapelli.
I don't remember that.
Spillapelli. Oh that's amazing.
That's amazing. All right I'm going to move us to fast fact number three because this is a huge fast fact.
Angela, I don't know if it's that people are spending a lot of time at home, but this week we got a lot of mail from people that was very long, very involved, a lot of deep dives, a lot of conspiracies, and I'm gonna go into this conspiracy sent in by Suzy Kowalski.
This is the Jim Halpert sleeve conspiracy.
You got my attention Suzy.
Here is what Suzy says, guys I took a deep on Jim's sleeves.
As you have done on Kelly's hair and shirts, someone please tell me why for all of season three, Jim sleeves are not rolled up.
He is famously known for rolling up his sleeves, yet in season three, they are not rolled and he is even sometimes wearing a blazer.
Here's what Suzy says.
I believe it's love, stay with me for a second.
Oh, God. She wrote, stay with me for a second.
Go on. She says, Jim's iconic look is him with his dress shirt sleeves rolled up and never wearing a blazer, even though the rest of the men in the office do.
However, when Jim moves to Stanford, he's either wearing his blazer or his dress shirt with his sleeves not rolled up, which is weird because also Andy does not wear a blazer.
But after the merger, Andy wears a blazer every day in Scranton.
Oh Suzi. Oh Suzi. All right, Suzie also says this is also seen in season 3 episode 3 and 4 not 2 because that's the convention 5 6 7 and 8 8 is the merger where Andy suddenly starts wearing a blazer all the time and Jim keeps we're not rolling his sleeves But since he's quote unquote home now, you would think he would go back to his old ways, but he doesn't It's not fancy Stanford Angela it's not, he keeps not rolling his sleeves even when he gets back to Scranton.
She says, even in episodes 9, 10 and 11, even when in 11 he's in the warehouse handing Karen the lease he's back in a blazer, but why?
It continues in episodes 12 through 21 not 22 cause that's beach day and episode 23.
guess what? Season 4, episode 1, no blazer, his sleeves are rolled up.
I repeat the sleeves are rolled up people.
Jim is back, baby. And this is her conclusion.
I believe Jim's sleeves are directly correlated with his dating of Karen and not dating Pam.
I think when he moved to Connecticut, the sleeves were his way of starting a new chapter.
Maybe it's symbolic that he was never comfortable with Karen he couldn't be his real self and roll up his sleeves but in season four episode ones cold open he's comfortable again he rolls up his sleeves and we know at this point he's dating Pam let's give her a clap Suzy that is some serious sleeve tracking I applaud you on your attention to detail Suzy asked if this was intentional or an accident Susie this was intentional Susie.
I'm telling you you are making some some ladies in wardrobe We're really really happy.
They did a lot of things like that.
They would change our wardrobe depending on what our characters were going through and Wow Susie I am so impressed you're gonna see a lot of moments from Pam Where her wardrobe changes or her hair changes because of you know?
who she's dating or what she's up to some some work some don't you know we do that in life right we we try on new looks they're not all winners guys they're not all winners well listen you know we're all stuck inside we're wondering what are we gonna do maybe something you could do is re -watch season three of The Office and and look at Jim's sleeves see what Suzy saw let me tell you I think, Suzy, from here out, I am going to be looking at his sleeves.
So, yeah. All right.
Fantastic. Fast facts, lady.
All right, guys, we're going to take a break.
And when we come back, we're going to break down the coup and get ready for some sweet audio clips from Mr. Rain.
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Okay, we're back. We've got our cold open.
Michael and Pam are popping some popcorn in the microwave because guess what?
It's movie Monday. I guess that means we find out in this episode that Michael makes everybody go in and watch a movie or maybe a medical video or maybe an episode of Entourage.
I have to tell you at 42 seconds, Jenna, your look to camera when you said that they ran out of like instructional videos then you watched a medical video.
Your pause and look to camera is absolute genius.
It was so good. You know we got a lot of mail of people asking Why did I pause and look at camera because he made you watch a medical video?
Okay, I rewatch this with my daughter and she was like mom.
What is what's the deal with the medical video?
I was like imagine they ran out of like videos related to paper supply our work related videos And then he just found one on how do you give someone a root canal and you had to watch that she was like Exactly Exactly.
Also that look to camera that you're talking about, that is in the script.
In the script it says, Pam looks at, gives camera a look like can you believe it?
Oh my lord. It was so good.
Well, you know, Michael says this is the only cure for the Monday blues.
And then he goes into his cabinet lady.
At 13 seconds, he goes into his cabinet into his safe to get a cup of varsity blues, do we need to revisit all of the things in his cabinet?
You know, I saw Pringles, I saw the rubber chicken that has to be in the safe, you know?
Yeah, there's a blue pack of gum.
Here's the thing, his silver tea set that was in there during Dwight's speech, where did it go?
I don't know he had to move it for his movie stash.
There's more than one movie in there.
There's also a new photo of Jan taped over the old photo.
The old photo was a picture of Jan from a newsletter when her last name was still Levinson -Gold.
And now, there's some other photo.
But I couldn't catch it exactly what it was.
I like to think that it's a photo he took of her that she didn't want him to take.
Oh, 100%. Well, I have a little something about this cold open.
Sam, will you play Mustang?
What's going on? And now.
It's time for Kinzie Tidbit!
Hey look who got her kids in on it!
All three of them. We had to make a sentence so they could all have an equal amount of time so it was fair.
You guys know how it is.
With multiple children it all has to be fair or somebody gets their feelings hurt.
We got a Kinzie Tidbit.
I have a Kinzie Tidbit about this cold open.
Jenna Fischer did you know that in 1999 I auditioned for Varsity blues?
What? Oh yeah. What?
I did. I auditioned for the part that Allie Larter got of D 'Arcy Spears the cheerleading captain she was known famously in this movie as the character who comes out in a whipped cream bikini Oh my gosh.
Whipped cream bikini to Mox, who was played by James van der Beek.
Yeah. She seduces him in a whipped cream bikini.
That's the role I auditioned for.
I did not get it. So there you go.
Lady, I have questions.
Yeah, go. Did you have to do any cheerleading as part of your audition, or the fact that you had been a cheerleader?
Was that a plus? Did it come up in your audition?
it came up in my audition, yes that I had had cheerleading experience.
I think it's probably I was such a like unknown nobody I think is probably how I got the audition because I was my I could imagine my agent at the time who was like she's from Texas cuz it takes place in Texas.
She's blonde she was a cheerleader.
I got the audition and I had like my Texas accident everything I did not get the part it's okay but I had read the sides and I remember being like whipped -cream bikini, how does that stay on?
How does that work?" And this movie Varsity Blues I had to go see it because I had to see you know the role I didn't get.
And there are so many things that if you're from Texas you're like and okay whatever that's a that's a bit much. But one of my favorite lines that my friends and I used to say to each other was by James van der Beek in his Southern accent as the character mocks, he gets into a fight with the football coach who's played by John Voight They had some like big names in this movie and he looks at him and goes.
I don't want your life Yeah, we would say it to each other all the time all the time, hey what's up, I don't want your laugh, okay How did you feel when you did not get the part where you super bummed or were you relieved that you didn't have to?
wear a whipped cream bikini or both?
Was it a mix? I think it was a mix, it was a mix.
I was like, oh, I think this is gonna be a big movie.
You know, like. And I never got.
This is a game changer, that would have been a game changer.
Game changer, I never got to audition for movies.
I was just really just going in on commercials.
That was my big success is I had you know, done a commercial about potato chips that gave you anal leakage.
So you know, I was, this would have been a big deal.
Pretty much on camera, all I had said was wow.
and then took a bite of a potato chip.
So it would have been a really big deal.
But I didn't get it.
And that's ok. And that is my Kinsey Tidbit from the Cold Open.
I love your Kinsey Tidbit.
I thought that was very very good, Kinsey Tidbit.
Thank you, thank you.
We also had a fan question about this Cold Open, Angela.
We had a lot of people ask, what did we do with all the extra popcorn?
because Pam pops a bunch of popcorn and then no one takes it.
You guys, we ate it and we also just put it out on the snack table for the crew.
We did eat all that popcorn.
It was great. I'll never forget it.
Yeah, we were excited about popcorn.
We had a lot of snacks all the time but all of our snacks, they had to be very quiet snacks because the snack table was behind the walls of the set so our crafty people, they couldn't pop microwave popcorn because we were shooting, and it would make noise.
Remember, we had that one cappuccino machine for like a hot second, Angela, but it was so loud and it kept ruining takes because people would go back and fix themselves like a frothy cappuccino while we were trying to shoot and they were like, get that machine out of here.
So this was I mean, to say we were tickled to have some like microwave popcorn.
We actually really were, because it was usually all things that made no noise.
Yeah, like a lot of our snacks were like cheese.
A lot of cheese. A lot of cheese.
Guys, don't worry. Angela did not string it.
Who had time for it?
I don't have time for that.
So I guess Pam also shares that they watched an episode of Entourage six times.
A, which episode? I wish we knew.
But Jenna, did you know that our lovable curmudgeon Rain Wilson was a guest star on Entourage?
No, he was not. Oh yeah, he was.
Rain, this delighted me so much. Rain was in season two, episode nine.
The episode is called I Love You Too.
He played R .J. Spencer who was an internet comic expert and he interviews Vincent Chase at basically the San Diego Comic Con.
Because get this, Vincent just got the big role of Aquaman, okay.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And so R .J.
Spencer is gonna interview him, but during the interview Jenna he starts talking about I heard that you were engaged to Mandy Moore and she broke up with you, you know?
Oh. And guess what this pisses Vincent off.
Oh yeah. Then he calls him an a -hole.
This is not the interview he was expecting.
No and he calls him an a -hole and he storms off and RJ is like, I will ruin you!
I will write horrible reviews of Aquaman, you know you had your chance and I'm gonna destroy you on the internet." Okay so now E.
Vincent's manager right yeah he's got to fix this he's like what do you want you know he's like trying to bribe them what happens?
RJ says I want three hundred and fifty thousand dollars or I'm gonna destroy Aquaman online so meanwhile Johnny Drama is at Comic Con and he has a really good friend and an adult film star Jesse Jane, played by Jesse Jane, she's promoting her fake comic series titled **** Patrol.
So he says, hey, will you guys visit quote RJ in his hotel room and convince him not to write a bad review of Aquaman?
And because of her love of Vincent, she's like, yeah, and her and two of her pals in very, very interesting outfits Go and knock on the door.
And RJ is like, wha wha wha?
And guess what. Does Rain have a love scene with three women?
I need to ask him about it.
On Entourage? I need to ask him about it because they go in there.
They shut the door.
We don't know what happens.
But I wonder if there was ever a scene of anything happening.
Was there a scene that didn't make the episode?
I don't know. But then, of course, he writes Aquaman glowing review.
so there you go rain rain I have questions I have questions for you I will be texting you later.
I really wish I knew this before rain sent in his audio eclipse because I feel like that audio clips would have more yeah more they would have anything to say about this um here's when I was listening to your description of this episode it became very clear to me why I didn't watch Entourage.
And I feel good about that.
I feel good that I didn't watch it, and I feel like, yeah, that good call.
There you go. Rainn Wilson as R .J.
Spencer on Entourage.
I kind of want to see just that episode.
Maybe just Rainn's scenes.
I just fast forwarded to Rainn's scenes, you don't really need to see anything else from it.
That was some shade.
And so now we can get into the episode.
Jan is visiting unexpectedly and discovering Movie Monday.
Yeah, and guess what?
Not everyone approves of Movie Monday, Jenna.
No, Angela you do not approve.
I do not approve. It is me.
I will own it. I do not approve.
And then Angela is so sneaky.
When Jan comes in she points to the conference room like, Mm -hmm, tattletale.
She is. But Angela, at 1 minute 49 seconds, where are you sitting for this talking head?
You're by a window and there's a plant.
Where are you? I know where I am.
Because there's a - there's a deleted scene that's not in here where Dwight has to come find me.
Michael's like, go get Angela.
Right? And Dwight's like, why me?
He plays this really coy, it's like, sort of a hilarious performance of, like, well, I don't know where she is.
So - Yes, why are you asking me for Angela?
And then he - he goes and finds her and he knows exactly where she is.
I am sitting behind the vending machine sort of squished up in the wall behind the plant on a chair and I am needle pointing like a cat.
I'm needle pointing a cat and that's what this talking head is.
Yes and there is that window that goes from the break room into that little hallway.
Into the hallway and there's a big plant there and that's where I'm sitting.
it was driving me nuts.
There's a whole scene that happens there that didn't make it in the episode where I start plotting that's the first seed I plant is that you know you wouldn't do this as a manager you wouldn't waste everyone's time like this.
I see. All while needle pointing a face of a cat.
I love that. all right we have a fan catch Angela Beth Boss says when And Jan walks in, she puts her bag and coat down on the chair in front of Michael's office.
But when Angela points to the conference room and the camera cuts back to Jan, she's holding her coat and she's just now putting it down in the chair.
Good catch, Beth Boss.
Way to go. There's some D 'Angela sass in this episode, as we know.
And two of my favorite D 'Angela sass lines are coming up around two minutes thirty nine.
Angela's telling Dwight to meet her in the kitchen, and she says that Jan is gonna be peeved off.
Jan is peeved off." And then Dwight in his talking head said, yeah, Jan's really been bitching out on him ever since he broke up with her.
I'm like, what is up with to Angela?
They're like kind of cursing.
They're being, they're being a little tacky, Jenna.
Oh. You think so? I think they're being a little tacky.
that's hit their limit, Angela, they can't take it anymore.
They can't take the inefficiency.
They can't take, you know, you know what happens.
It's like for all these years they've been separately stewing overall of this.
But now that they're together.
You know how that happens in a couple?
Now they're kind of like mind melding.
Yeah. Well, and I love this scene with Dwight and Angela in the kitchen.
It's around two minutes, 42 seconds.
You guys are back to back again, not facing one another.
Angela is telling Dwight that he's the one who she'd been writing the office and he should talk to Jan about it.
We had a fan question from Evan Warburton.
He says, Angela, did it make it easier or more difficult to film a scene when the characters are back to back?
Because, I know that Raine and Angela did quite a few scenes like this.
Like, did it make it easier to stay in character because you didn't have to make eye contact?
What was it like? Tell us, Angela.
Well, I'll tell you this.
The biggest thing about these scenes that I remember was timing, because you cannot see the other person speaking.
So, you know, you don't respond quite the same way because you want to make sure they finish their sentence or sort of whatever they're doing – they're emoting, right?
whatever their thing is.
So I remember the first time we did it there were probably more pauses because we wanted to sort of make sure we had the give and take because naturally when you talk to someone you're reading their face.
And so it was sort of just like acting off of someone's voice as well.
Like all of my reacting was in listening.
I think in some ways it made us more thoughtful performers because we couldn't face the other person and we had to really listen to them and react off the last thing they said did it make it hard to improvise oh for sure i i remember really being conscious of not improvising any lines within a written scene and anything that i did improvise came at the very end when i knew i wouldn't be stepping on anything rain said so most of my improv in these scenes if it made it in was something i said as i was leaving or are at the very beginning that makes sense so Oh yeah, so they have this scene in the kitchen,
Angela storms out, she's furious, she tells Dwight he needs to grow a pair, right, and a talking head.
See what I mean? Jenna, she is, she has had it.
And on growing a pair, let's, uh, let's move to Stanford. Let's grow a pair and move to Stanford. All right, so what's happening at Fancy Stanford, Jenna?
They're playing Call of Duty!
Oh. Jim explains that what started as a team -building exercise has now turned into this super competitive game of Call of Duty, which keeps interrupting their workday.
He mentions, this is where Jim brings up Pam.
He's like yeah we didn't really play video games in Scranton.
But you know we did other things like Pam and I would hum a high -pitched tone and try to convince Dwight that he needed to see an ear doctor.
Pam called it pretendinitis.
Oh, Jim. He's just thinking of Pam.
Oh, Lordy. But then, back in Scranton, Angela, Pam is not talking about Jim.
She's signing for a package.
She's gotten a delivery.
Listen, she went on a date the week before, right?
She went on a date.
Now, she's getting some new clothes.
With the help of Kelly Kapoor, before we really dive into this scene, you guys, 4 minutes, 36 seconds.
Is Mindy wearing a side ponytail?
Come on! You're bringing up her side ponytail?
What about her bangs?
I mean... She has bangs!
She has bangs, but she has an extension filled side ponytail.
There's a lot happening with her hair.
I don't have a sting for it, but it would go full Mindy!
Yeah. Why don't we have a full Mindy sting?
We really need to get on that.
That may really do.
Someone make this a full Mindy Sink.
Someone do it. Well this leads to a very famous Office line.
Fashion show! Fashion show!
Fashion show at lunch!
Yes. Yes. Guys that is 100 % scripted.
That was in the script.
That was not an improv.
It was written exactly like that.
Mindy delivers it perfectly.
We had a lot of fan questions about this scene.
People mostly wanted to know did I get to pick out the outfits that Pam gets?
in her online shopping spree.
And also, were there more things in the box besides that single shirt that she gets out and wears later in the kitchen.
Okay, yes, we had a big wardrobe fitting about what would these outfits be?
And there were more things in the box, but I'll have to tell you, they were basically that same shirt, but there was a turquoise one.
It was a lot of jewel toned shirts that looked almost identical to that one shirt that you see and that was kind of part of the joke, because have you done that when you're shopping?
You're like, I'm going to get a whole new wardrobe and then you just kind of go to the store and buy the same pair of pants in three colors.
Oh my gosh, I always do that.
I find like one shirt I like and then buy it in three colors and people are like, hey, I oh, have you worn that?
Oh, I, is that? And I'm like, no, it's the same shirt.
It's the same shirt.
Yeah, that was kind of what happened with Pam's like redesign of her wardrobe was that she managed to find one thing that she was willing to take a chance on and then bought it in different colors.
Here's what I remember about that, Jenna, because all of us saw each other every day pretty much in the same wardrobe, right?
Yeah. Whenever one of our characters did get anything slightly different, we were like, hey.
So, I remember our reactions to your red fancy blouse so similar to our characters, minus the gross pervy stuff but we were all like oh my god you look so great oh my god you look amazing and you're like oh it's just the wardrobe or the scene it did feel like that whenever we got a slightly fancier hairdo or a slightly cooler outfit yeah everyone noticed we all talked about it we're like wow look at that wow so now we're back at stanford milady back and stanford andy is getting ticked off at Jim for killing the wrong soldiers in Call of Duty.
Yes and did you notice that four minutes and 59 seconds there is still a blue sticky note on Jim's computer that says smile?
No I didn't notice that's a great catch. Yeah it's still there, fan question from Shelby Hagan, how was Call of Duty chosen as the game that was played in the Stamford branch?
Thank you so much for your question, Shelby.
We actually got so many questions about Call of Duty.
And this seemed like the perfect one to get us started.
As you guys know, Jenna and I were not in those scenes at Stanford. That's right.
So, Shelby, I reached out to a lot of people to get you the real deal on all things Call of Duty.
Angela, I got all the scoop from our line producer, Kent Sabornak.
I texted with our editor, Dean Holland and Andy Bernard himself, Ed Helms. Lainey, that is a serious deep dive.
I like it, I like it.
I deep dived. I really did.
Okay, so what'd you find out?
Alright, so Kent told me that after we wrapped Season 1 of the show, the post -production guys moved to some offices in Venice to edit the episodes.
And while they were there, Kent just for whatever reason, just on a whim, installed Call of Duty on everyone's computers just so they could blow off steam during edit sessions.
And then, when we moved to our new stages for Season 2, he did it again, but this time he also installed it on all of the writers' computers, and that is when the editors and the writers started playing one another.
I remember this because our editors and writers were in the same building.
They were over where the warehouse is, right?
And the writers were upstairs and the editors were downstairs.
And sometimes I would go over there at lunch because I was friends with Claire Scanlon, one of our editors at the time.
And I would walk in the editing bay, and they were all like, Get down!
Over here! I was like, What is happening?
I remember going up to the writers room and seeing the same thing, they had this big conference table in the writers room, and they would have all their computers in a circle.
And then some people be around this conference room table and it was the same thing they did exactly like what Stanford did they would turn off the light yeah and they would have this elaborate match going on oh my gosh they were so into it well I guess Greg Daniels was particularly obsessed in fact our editor Dean Holland told me that the very first time he met with Greg to start editing an episode within about ten minutes Greg said have you ever played Call of Duty and Dean was like yeah and he said Greg left the room and started a 20 -person game like within 10 minutes.
How perfect that Greg was the person that directed this episode because he loves Call of Duty.
I know I don't think that I don't think that was a mistake no no all right well I have a little runner -up question for you Jenna, okay.
So Evan Warburton wrote in and said, Hey, I need to point this out.
Jim is apparently horrible at Call of Duty at the Stanford branch in this episode, but in the episode email surveillance, you can see in the background of the scene at 20 minutes, eight seconds that Toby is playing Call of Duty on Jim's TV.
Remember at the barbecue Jenna?
Yes. Yes. So, and then also in Jim's bedroom at 15 minutes, 52 seconds, You can see an expansion pack of Call of Duty on Jim's desk.
Come on, someone please explain.
All right, yes. We actually had a lot of people write in about this glitch. I went to that time code, 15 minutes, 52 seconds.
There it is. There is an expansion pack Call of Duty.
Here's how this went down, guys.
OK. Kent told me that the writers had a card up on the wall in the writer's room all through season two about a possible Call of Duty storyline.
But they couldn't really ever figure out how to put it in and they had originally thought about doing something in email surveillance And if you remember Angela we did actually shoot some scenes Where people were playing Call of Duty during Jim's party.
Yeah, but it wasn't a storyline.
Yeah, it wasn't a storyline It was just something people were doing at the party kind of in the background, but that was there in the script Yeah, and it didn't really though go anywhere So finally, when they went to Stanford, they wrote this full plotline.
And they had to just live with the fact that there had been this tiny appearance of Call of Duty earlier, but they so wanted a full Call of Duty story that they just went with it.
It was like, it's worth it.
Yeah, whatever. Email surveillance.
We've got to have a real episode that features Call of Duty.
You know, what I did for myself, the way I made it makes sense, is that Jim had roommates you know.
He had roommates who probably played it, maybe it was never his thing you know.
Maybe he stole the expansion pack and put it in his room to make his roommate stop playing.
Maybe that's why it's in his room along with his guitar that he never plays.
Okay Jenna and Susie come on.
Come on. So I listened to the DVD commentary for this episode, and Jenna Rasheeda said that she got lessons on how to play Call of Duty from the duty, which just cracks me up.
And John actually had something really sweet to say in the commentary.
He said that going to the Stanford branch, all of those actors had never worked together before, right?
And that playing Call of Duty with one another was actually a really fun icebreaker to get to know everyone.
You know, Ed and I traded some messages and he said the same thing.
He said they all played with the writers and it was really, really fun, and he told me that they also played for real on set.
Yeah. they were really playing during those scenes and then when they would cut they would just keep playing.
He said it was a lot of fun and people got super super into it.
I have a little FOMO.
I have a little FOMO about it because I feel like we would have had fun with that at Scranton.
I mean we knew they were having fun over there without us.
Dang it all we were doing was playing solitaire.
Exactly. Oh Jenna did you get any scoop in your deep dive on who the best player who was our best player well I don't think any of the actors were very good oh really Ed said he didn't remember anyone being particularly great including himself Kent told me that he was the best player when they started but that during the editing phase of season one when they were in Venice co -producer Angie Hamilton was the best hands down but then And see it sort of depends on who you ask because Dean told me that during season two, he and writer Mike Schur were the best. They were at the top of the leaderboard. He
said they got so into it that they took it over to Parks and Rec when they moved over there and they played it every day on Parks and Rec.
And Kent did concur that Mike and Dean left as champions.
But he also said that their assistant editor Mike Zurer was pretty great.
All right, all right.
Well, I think those were fantastic questions.
Thank you so much Shelby and Evan.
All right, so now at five minutes 12 seconds we're in the parking lot.
Dwight, you know, he's kind of psyching himself up like he does that.
We've seen him do this before like in the stairwell and in the DVD commentary.
Rain mentioned that that run that he does in the parking lot that Paul Lieberstein showed him exactly how he wanted that run done.
Really? So I picture these two guys just running back and forth.
It makes me laugh thinking about it and then Dwight calls Jan and yeah he says hey I need to talk to you.
It's not safe here.
He's crouching down.
People are walking about.
Kevin's around and he tells her to go to the Liz Claiborne Outlet at Exit 40 because he knows that she likes buying those blouses from Liz Claiborne.
Yeah he says he'll meet her there.
I'll meet you at the Liz Claiborne outlet.
He says, go in and shop.
I'll meet you there.
And she says, how do you know I like their blouses?
And he says, it's part of my job to know.
And then she has that great line where she's like, it literally is not part of your job.
Yeah, he's like - It's absolutely not part of your job to know this.
And then Dwight's like, noted.
How long has Dwight been tracking her clothes?
I feel like Dwight is the tracker, the way we track things on the podcast. That's what Dwight was doing, of like everyone in the office.
He's got some real creepy notebooks.
Oh, he has meticulous creepy notes.
Lady, I had to do a deep dive the minute he said, exit 40.
I had to know, are there Liz Claiborne outlets at exit 40?
So I can tell you all the outlets in Pennsylvania.
Did you go there, Lady?
Did you go there? Okay, I did not go there, Angela, because remember when I said earlier that our fans got real into some deep dives on this?
We had multiple people right in about Liz Claiborne outlets and Exit 40.
Jenny Agouirre wrote in to say there is no Exit 40, according to three Google Maps suggestions from Scranton to New York.
Did you find that Angela?
No Exit 40? Yeah, I couldn't find an Exit 40 either.
Okay. Well, Michaela Brock said that the only Liz Claiborne store near Scranton is in Ramsey, New Jersey, which is about an hour and 45 minutes away on the quickest route, but Elizabeth M said that Jan has said she's been driving an hour supposedly to New York City which would not be on the way to this Liz Claiborne outlet that is in New Jersey and it would actually add 25 miles to her drive.
Well I want you to know when I was in junior high my favorite perfume was the Liz Claiborne perfume.
It came in a little like triangle, you know, and you took the top off.
I loved Liz Claiborne perfume so I would have been very excited about this Liz Claiborne outlets and my mom loves the outlets.
We had to pull off on the side of the road like she would say to my dad, Bill there's the outlets!
Here we go. Oh my mom loves the outlets, there is a Carter's outlet, there's a Baby Gap outlet, my mom shops the outlet, And she sends just like bags of clothes to me for my kids from these outlets.
It's the best. Guys, loving on the outlets.
So you can go to outletlocator .com and type in your state and find out your outlets.
So this is what I found.
There are three outlets in Pennsylvania for Liz Claiborne.
There's one in Lancaster, one in Hershey, and one in Redding.
And then, lady, when we get to it later, I'll let you know what outletlocator .com says about Taylor I'll hold on to that I'll hold on to it oh yes many people wrote in about Ann Taylor so we'll put a pin in that so and then you know Dwight gets off the phone and he tells Michael he has an emergency crown that he has to get put in Michael's like oh that you know that sucks and he said yeah it's a new dentist that is three hours away and yes Dwight goes well Michaela Brock wants you to know that if Dwight goes to a Liz Claiborne store in New Jersey, he would have been gone longer than three hours
because driving time alone would have been three hours.
He wouldn't have even had time to meet with Jan. Guys, we did not think this through.
Our writers did not go to outletlocator .com when they wrote this scene.
They did not. Well, wherever he went, Dwight is now in a parking lot with Jan and she has done some shopping.
She's got some bags.
She's got some bags!
I have a question for you, Jenna, since I know you have the scripts.
there is this line that Dwight says to Jan and I feel like it's rain improving when he said did you get a new blouse Halter Top camisole Teddi is that rain supervising all of that was scripted except for Teddy Teddy there you go I knew we're a little teddy at the end I knew one of them had to be rain ah you would be friends with Kate lonergan who wrote in that same question lady oh hi Kate alright so now Dwight and Jan have a meeting at a nearby restaurant and this This is where Dwight really turns on Michael, and he starts to campaign to take over the office.
He campaigns and grosses me out at the same time.
I mean, I am impressed with his No Look Poor, a No Look Poor of syrup is no joke.
Lady, that was scripted!
I mean that was amazing.
I thought the same thing.
I looked it up in the script, and there is a stage direction that says...
without breaking eye contact with Jan and pours it over everything on his plate.
Amazing. Amazing. We did get some questions Lady about his eating of the waffles and pancakes which is also delightful, that was not scripted.
Rain just ate how he wanted to eat.
Casey Halpin asked how much of those waffles and pancakes did Rain have to eat in that scene, was he really eating them or did he have a spit bucket?
Well guess what, Rainn Wilson answers this eating question.
Alright let's play the clip Sam, here's what Rainn has to say.
Here's my deal about eating scenes.
I love to eat during eating scenes.
I love and if you'll see Dwight he'll always when there's an eating scene he's got a mouth full of food, to me it's really funny he's just wolfing down big bites of food and talking while eating and it's but it just felt really, really right for the character.
And I also like it as an actor.
So this was a joy to cover.
And I love that stage direction of Dwight's eyes never leave jams as he covers his plate entirely in syrup.
And Melora Hardin is such a joy to act with because she's so specific and so underplayed.
And no matter what you throw at her She's right there, she's totally game and always in character.
All right. So there you have it guys, Rain was really eating.
He was really eating, not spitting them out.
Rain did not use a spit bucket.
I have done a lot of scenes with Rain Wilson and I can tell you, the guy goes for it.
He goes for it across the board, whatever it is.
So if he was gonna eat a waffle, by golly, he's gonna eat that waffle.
Well, thank you Rain, thank you for sending in that clip.
We've got more guys coming up.
This is also the scene lady where at the end of the scene, he tells Jan, there's an Ann Taylor store nearby and he knows that she likes the earrings.
Melora's performance as Jan is so great.
She's like, where is it?
Yeah, she's like, yeah, where is it?
I do actually. I do want to look at the earrings.
Well, Mikayla Brock wants you to know that while there are 20 Ann Taylor stores around the Scranton area, the nearest one to a Liz Claiborne is about 16 minutes away.
Now Jenny added Angela I told you these everyone deep dived on this there is an outlet mall roughly an hour away from Scranton.
I think this is the one you're talking about.
It's on the I -80 East route it's called the Crossings Premium Outlet.
Did you find this one?
Well I can tell you on Outletlocator .com there's an Ann Taylor outlet in Lancaster as well and also one in Hershey as well.
So, if you were at Liz Claiborne, you could hit Anne Taylor at both of those outlets.
And then there's another one in Tandersville and Pottstown.
But there's no Liz Claiborne at those?
No, but you have a Liz Claiborne crossover at Hershey and Lancaster.
Well, Jenny was noting that at the Crossings Premium Outlet, there is also Billy's Pocono Diner.
So they serve breakfast and it is possible that that's where they were eating and then Jan could pop over to that and Taylor.
According to Kentopedia however for anyone who wants to know this was shot in Toluca Lake California at Patty's diner.
Famous Patty's diner.
All right I've eaten there and so I can tell you with great authority that Rainn Wilson was eating delicious pancakes and at Patties.
All right well we've got to get back to the Scranton Branch because the shiitake is about to hit the fan.
Before we do that, let's take a little break.
Yeah let's take a break I'm going to refill my coffee.
You refill your coffee I'm probably gonna go pee.
Overshare? Maybe that's where I'm at.
You always pee during our breaks it's kind of like remember when you gave me grief about saying do you want to hear a summary do you want to hear a fast -fact when you know I'm going to say them anyway.
It's kind of like you don't have to tell us that you're going to pee on the brakes anymore because we all just know.
Listen. We just know.
Okay. Fine. You have a tiny bladder.
I'm a tiny bladder.
I'm a tiny person. I do as well.
Listen, I pee on every brake too.
I just haven't been talking about it.
But. Well, I am hell on a road trip.
If we can ever road trip again, you don't want me in the car with you because I need to know where I can pee.
I'm that person. Where am I going to pee?
Where am I going to pee?
Where am I going to pee?
get me an iced tea where am I gonna pee I know that's the I I drink my way through a road trip just sodas and water and snacks and then also peace seven times maybe we are perfect partners for road tripping because we would just know we're gonna pee and we're yeah but we'd have to sync up we would need someone to be the alpha bladder oh good someone to be the beta bladder now you do sound like Dwight all right let's take a break You know how it goes, getting super into something that can lead to watching it, listening to it, reading about it, maybe even picking up something to go with it.
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Jan has called Michael to tell him he needs to get ahold of his employees and do a better job because they are going behind his back to her.
Right? Yes. And Michael cannot believe that Dwight would try to turn his ex lover -ish against him.
One of my favorite lines and it's probably because of how earnestly Steve says it is Michael is when Jan calls him and he says you were at the dentist. Yes, she randomly ran into Dwight where he was getting his crown removed like no Michael it's all a lie!
Oh yes I love it so much. Well Angela then we move into the kitchen where Pam was modeling her new top for Kelly and Phyllis this is the fashion show and then Roy walks in with a soda and he is - oh Pam's like taking his breath away right here.
Poor Roy. Also what is there not a vending machine in in the warehouse come on in that whole warehouse there's not a vending machine.
You've gotta come up to the office three times for soda.
Well, you know what that line was improved by Mindy.
Oh way to go Mindy.
Isn't that so good.
Yes, she had that same thought, right?
Like Oh, third soda of the day in the script as he's walking out the kitchen door she was just supposed to say awkward. Oh, nice.
All right. So when we go back to Stanford Josh puts the game on hold.
He calls Andy and Jim into the conference room.
Jim is like, oh, finally we're doing work.
No, no, he wants to devise a strategy for the game.
So speaking of improvisation, Ed had a bunch of improv at the end of the scene.
So when he calls Jim a saboteur that was improvised that was not in the script.
And then when he says all that stuff where he's like, I am going to kill you for real.
This game is over. I am really going to shoot you !" Like, all of that.
That was Ed improv.
Well, in the DVD commentary, Jon said that this scene was maybe one of the hardest that he had to work not to break.
He said that Chip and Ed, Chip who plays Josh were just crushing it.
And he said he was having the toughest time.
So I kind of want to rewatch it to watch his face.
But, lady, I have a little trivia about rain and chip chip who plays josh oh what is it okay so did you know that rain and chip were in an nbc pilot in 1999 it was called the expendables now rain mentioned this in the dvd commentary and i had to do a deep dive i was like oh it sounds like a superhero fantasy type show?
Ready, I looked it up online this is what IMDB had to say about it.
The Expendables was an NBC pilot.
It was about a scientist who creates two indestructible, lifelike robots.
They have an affinity for television, particularly Starsky and Hutch. Their unexpected development of emotions prompts a need for them to help people.
Chip played the character Ram, Rain played the character Newman.
Now, were they, are those characters both the robots who developed feelings?
Yeah, and Rain said it was so bad, but that he and Chip became friends and Rain was one of the people that suggested Chip for the role of Josh.
That is some good, I would call that a tidbit and a deep dive.
That's a deep tidbit.
Can we go to Scranton now?
We probably should.
This is one of my favorite all time scenes of all time on any television show ever made ever.
This is one of my favorite bits ever.
Crintus the dentist. Your dentist's name is Crintus?
Maybe that's why he became a dentist. There is a deleted scene.
So good! There is a deleted scene where Michael Scott, Michael, he's like, Scott?
And he starts seeing what all would name with Scott?
Yes! But he said none of them are occupations.
Okay, so in the script the parentis dentis scene is word for word, you guys.
There is nothing improvised about this scene.
This was all written by Paul Lieberstein.
Paul, you are a genius.
It is perfection, and you're right, there's a deleted talking head, and then there is even more to this scene in the script that is deleted.
So if you want to see, like, an extended version of this genius, please visit the deleted scenes.
I love it so much. We asked Rain about it, and he sent in this clip.
All righty then, Office Ladies podcast. Jenna, Angela.
Hi, it's me, Rainn Wilson.
Remember me? Vaguely?
Everyone talks about the Crentist scene as being so spectacular, and I know that it's some of the funniest writing.
And I think Paul Lieberstein wrote it, in all of the office.
The Dentist, the Crentist and that jousting between me and Michael.
But the scene afterwards where Dwight and Michael play this chess game and Michael pretends to give up his position to Dwight, is absolutely masterful.
And I think Steve is, I mean, he's great in everything but he just kills it.
And it's so subtle and underplayed.
And I love how Game of Thrones it is.
I forgot that this whole episode is like these power plays and power ploys and who's going behind who's back.
It's like Littlefinger and Valeris and Highgarden or whatever.
I think I'm getting all the Game of Thrones names wrong.
But in the Red Keep all the maneuvering, you know, the Lannisters and backstabbing and loyalty, and you don't know who's side, who's on and it's so fantastic.
But the thing that gets me every time is that the reason it all falls apart is that Dwight insults the Sebring.
And ultimately, the Sebring is the hinge, is the linchpin, and it all falls apart because of the Sebring.
But this episode was so well written, I remember.
There's sometimes when you just are like, it's just best to sit back and play the lines and have fun with them as much as possible.
And I think this was one of those.
I often felt that way about Paul Lieberstein's writing.
it's very specific and it was made worse through improvisation, not better.
Sometimes the writing could benefit from some kind of actors bringing their mojo, but it was not that way with The Coup.
There you have it. You know I was screaming back at him even though he couldn't hear me because it was a recorded audio clip.
I love that you brought up Littlefinger and Cersei It's Game of Thrones!
I love you so much!
Because Rain, I love Game of Thrones too, and...
I know. I am Cersei.
Angela is Cersei. In this episode, she's Cersei!
All right. Well, Rain brought up the scene where they're in Michael's office, and Michael turns the tables on Dwight and it all falls apart.
It is me. And I have to agree in rewatching this, And Krentis is so funny, but this dance between Steve and Rain and how they performed this scene.
I think Rain is right.
This is just amazing acting and performance and writing, that scene.
It's all genius. It is all amazing.
I watched this episode three times and I could watch it again just for that scene.
It is so good. And one of the things they talked about in the DVD commentary...
I actually remember this is Greg really wanted to live in the pauses.
He wasn't afraid at all to let them take their time because he wanted it to have that kind of weight to it.
It just played so beautifully.
We had a lot of questions about improvisation.
I think because these scenes are so well performed, people think that they were improvised.
So we had Carolyn Tuft wrote in about Michael's talking head, where he's talking about businesses like A Jungle and he's the tiger.
She wanted to know if Steve improvised any of that.
Nope, all scripted.
Jerry Shue wrote in to say around 14 minutes, 40 seconds, Dwight calls Michael Mike, as they're getting ready to go out to the bullpen.
And he said, I think this is the only time that Dwight ever called Michael Mike in the entire show, would you happen to know why?
That was scripted, and it's scripted because Dwight thinks he has all the power now.
So he is calling him Mike as a way to kind of demote him.
Oh yeah. No, he's doing that thing where you give people nicknames to sort of put them in their place.
Yes. And it is so brilliant because he's also taking the power away.
Michael's like, should we go out there?
And he goes, when I'm ready, Mike.
Yeah, it's brilliant.
Well, when Michael does break the news to everyone, Oh, Angela, you were so pleased, so pleased.
Stanley has a lot of questions.
Phyllis asked Michael what he plans to do.
And Kevin is very concerned that Michael's gonna lose his condo.
So, Rain had a little something to say about this scene too.
Angela, let's play this clip.
Angela, your reaction, the tiniest hint of the smile, of the Lady Macbeth smile that you give Dwight during when he's announcing the few of you that will be left during my reign, I'm gonna lead you into the black with ferocity.
Your little look, there is fantastic and Jenna, I love your line about the vacuum cleaner being as capable a manager as Dwight.
It was so much fun to shoot.
It's so much fun to relive this with you guys.
Maybe one day you'll have me actually back on the show again.
Maybe the global pandemic has gotten in the way of that a little bit.
I'm so glad for what you're doing with this show.
I'm so happy, even though I haven't heard any of the episodes.
And I probably never will.
But I'm really happy for you because I like you both.
And you seem like you're having fun.
That's all I have to say.
I love you both. Goodbye.
Aw, Rain. That made me laugh.
You guys, that is Rain in a nutshell.
He is our Krimodgian with a big heart.
And I love him so much. I love him so much. We're going to figure this out, and we're going to get him on. Yes, Rain.
I love you, you tall, geeky man you.
But this is true, Angela.
I love how delighted your character is by this new shift in power.
I love that when you're alone and you guys talk about it, he tells you that you can be in control of the women.
And you're very pleased about that as well.
Well, this now starts a series of talking heads.
Right. Because everyone is reacting to this news.
I am, of course, delighted.
My character is delighted.
So Phyllis has a talking head that I love so much, right?
She says maybe I'll quit but if you look at the deleted scenes this goes on for a bit and this is such a great Line, oh yes, Angela.
Yes. Yes share this share this Okay, so she says that her fiancee says after they get married She doesn't even need to work anymore that her new job is gonna be being mrs. Bob Vance the first lady of Vance refrigeration Yes, I love that so much. I love that so much cute and by the way you see her play that role.
Like you see her take on being the first lady of Vance Refrigeration as this relationship plays out over the series.
Yeah it's really fun to watch and at 15 minutes 50 seconds now we have that Dwight tells Angela that she can be in charge of the women.
Yes she's a little annoyed because I think she was like we can do so many great things here and he's like there can only be one person in charge.
But then as soon as he gives her a job that she gets to have control over people, she's okay with it.
Okay, fine. Fine. She accepts it.
I'll be in charge of the women.
I remember doing this scene and I was kind of struggling with that final look and of what my expression was and Greg gave me direction.
He said, Angela, I want you to imagine what you'll do to the other women.
Oh my God. That was the look I had.
That's amazing. That is amazing.
So now we're back at Fancy Stanford and Karen is making fun of Jim's lack of call of duty skills, right?
He's not very good at it.
But she's just sort of smiling through it and just she's clearly a little smitten, Sam.
Flirty Karen. Yeah.
I talked to my mom about it.
I talked to Birdie Kinsey.
Birdie said, that's flirty Karen.
Oh Angela, I love it so much. I love it that you made your mom say flirty Karen.
It took a minute. I had to explain everything.
She was like, what am I doing?
And then I told her what Karen was up to and she said, well, she is being flirty.
So this is flirty Karen guys, Karen is putting on the flirt, and Yes, this is what I was talking about in my fast fact.
this is what got everybody very very very upset yes and then on a side note Rashida said in the DVD commentary that this was her audition scene oh really this was a scene she had to audition with so she really knew the scene well well I want you to know something this is jumping ahead a little bit but I just want to say to wrap up this storyline of the Jim Caron flirt you know at the end of this when Jim is packing up for the night and Caron's watching and he throws the fake grenade at her this is now kind of like their first inside joke that scene was not in the script that was added later we
saw that Caron is kind of sweet on Jim a little bit right in the scene you're talking about but they wanted to see Jim give her a little a little helper mm -hmm Yeah.
We wanted to see a little bit go her way.
And so they added that scene to show that there was a real connection between them, a playfulness, if you will.
Well, it worked. We have to talk about the most uncomfortable groveling I've ever witnessed.
And rain, in true rain fashion, 18 minutes, 25 seconds, begins to beg.
Beg Michael. And Michael is just watching him.
He gets on the ground.
he kind of shows his butt in the air, then he lays flat on the ground, and then at 19 minutes, 11 seconds.
Jenna Jenna. The drool, yeah.
We got letters about the drool Angela letters about the draw so disgusting it comes out then he sucks it back in.
Yeah, any kind of swallows it.
Then he hugs Michael hard, yeah yeah.
So all that stuff is just the ground and the hugging and all of that.
That was all scripted.
The drool was just on the day.
Yeah, yeah. That was all Rain, but Rain is right in his little clip when he said it's the Sebring that breaks Michael.
It is so brilliant when he's like take it back.
That's my car. Yes.
Yes. Oh my gosh. Well, you know when Michael tells Dwight to stand up and hug it out, bitch?
We had a fan question from Kristen Bauer, she said, that line, Hug It Out Bitch, is one of my favorite lines in the whole show and it cracks me up.
Who came up with that line?
Well, Kristen, this is a famous line from the show Entourage, which we set up earlier that Michael loves.
Jeremy Piven's character Ari Gold would say it all the time.
This was in the script, this was a callback.
And I got curious about it though, Angela.
And I watched an interview last night with Jeremy Piven and he said he was talking about improvisation on the set of Entourage.
And he said we really did not improvise.
We really didn't. He said it was very, very, very, very rare to improvise, but he said occasionally they did.
And the thing about improvisation he was saying was like, if you are in your character, then you will say something that your character would say, it's not about necessarily trying to be funny or clever.
It's just about saying that next thing that your character would honestly say in the moment, he said that the line, hug it out, bitch was an improvisation.
This famous line. He said it was crazy because we rarely did it, but there was this scene that he was in and his character was trying to comfort another character and so he just improvised, let's hug it out, bitch. Isn't that crazy?
I love that that was an improvised line because it sums up his character, His character Ari just perfectly.
This is an amazing callback, which I love as an improviser, I know Rain.
If you're listening, you're making fun of me right now.
But as an improviser, I live for a callback.
So I love that they set up entourage at the beginning and they bring this subtle reference back at the end.
Well, now the episode really wraps up with Michael and Dwight.
They're back in the conference room.
They're watching a movie together.
Angela, you walk by, you're not pleased, but listen, this is how it had to be.
He chose Michael once again.
I feel like Dwight is torn between Angela and Michael for years and then finally it goes her way because he leaves.
Well Michael has his final talking head where he says they hugged it out.
He's still angry. So he did make Dwight stand in the middle of the office with a sign around his neck that says liar.
And Dwight has to do Michael's laundry for a year and that's where we leave it.
before we wrap up i have two little things to share with you guys i did write in my journal about this episode and i only wrote about one thing all right so jenna i wrote that i did a different talking head that didn't make it in the show and i said i thought it was so funny but maybe it was just too long but angela martin says that she has a friend who has introduced her to a show called star trek and in star trek there's a guy named spock and he's very honorable and brave and he stands up for what he thinks is right, and she just wishes that someone in the office could be more like Spock.
And I just thought it was really cute that it's a window into their lives that Dwight is teaching her about Star Trek, and what, she'd never heard of Star Trek?
Yeah, it's this little show, you probably have not heard of it called Star Trek.
Yeah, here it is. So that deleted scene is not on the DVD extras, guys.
I don't know where that lives, but I did a whole talking head about Star Trek, But there is a deleted scene I have to share with you.
And I will leave you with this Jenna.
This is on the DVD extras.
We find out that Creed sleeps under his desk four nights a week.
And then he goes to his place in Toronto.
Yeah. Yeah. I love that.
What? When I was rereading the script, I read that and I actually remember Creed shooting that and it was so funny.
And I remember Paul cracking up while they were shooting that because he was so tickled by the idea that Creed slept under his desk So this is why he doesn't have a refrigerator He's never had his own refrigerator never had his own refrigerator because he sleeps under his death four nights a week I Love it and then what is his whole second life in Toronto?
I am so intrigued guys.
That was the coup We love that you are sticking with us and continuing to listen to this podcast. It is a joy for us to make it.
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This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.
Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.
Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins and our audio engineer and associate producer is Daniella Silva.
Odyssey's executive producers are Jenna Wise -Berman and Leah Reese -Dennis.
Office Ladies is mixed and mastered by Kris Bazel.
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