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Hello and welcome to your second drink of the Convention.
Ain't no party like a Scranton party!
It's because Scranton party don't stop.
That's right. So I went back to our mailbag for the Convention.
I looked at comments and mail that we got for after our breakdown came out just to see if there was anything that people felt like we missed, I'm proud to say there was not much, but there was one very big fan mail flurry.
Oh, yes. And I tried to grab everyone who wrote in about this.
So here we go. Hannah B., Alexis L., Alicia W., Lisa S., Carly D., Susanna W., Jenna D., Taylor R., Nikki W., Jennifer P., Andrew L., Miley W., Haley L., Ali S., Bailey M., Emily W.
and Erin P. Well, that's a lot of people, lady.
Why don't you tell everyone what they caught?
It was a continuity catch. Here's what all those people wrote in to say, that in season five, episode three, Business Ethics, Meredith admits to having sex in exchange for supplies and Outback Steakhouse gift certificates.
And she is having sex with the Scranton Hammermill rep for like six years.
That's what she says.
However, Hammer Mill was exclusive to Staples until this episode of the convention, which is season three, episode two.
So by the time we get to Meredith's storyline in season five, Hammer Mill would have only been with us for two years.
It's a lot of math.
And you might think, okay, what happened here?
I like to think that Meredith was having sex with the Hammer Mill rep and that she didn't even know that they didn't supply us with paper until this episode.
I don't know why. I don't know why I feel like that could track.
I feel like that could track.
I feel like she's probably not really keeping up with where everyone's working.
If you say you supply paper to Dunder Mifflin, Meredith will show you a good time.
Pretty much. There it is.
Well we also got several letters similar to this one from Meadow S.
Okay, in the scene where Michael and Dwight are discussing what possible fluids the black light could be revealing in the hotel room.
Meadow says, I am curious if that was a real hotel room and those fluids were really there?
Or did you guys concoct fluids that would show up?
If so, what was used?
I asked this out of a morbid fascination because I fear the fluids in hotel rooms. So much so that we VRBO whenever possible, assuming and hoping they clean better and wash all the bedding, et cetera.
Thank you so much, love your show and podcast. Okay, well there's no way those fluids were real.
No, no. Please tell me no, yeah.
The answer is no. Okay.
I reached out to our production designer, Michael Gallenberg.
Oh my gosh, poor Michael.
What are you texting me about?
What did you spray on the walls?
And he said that he had to reach out to the person he called his quote unquote paint lord, who is Ron Henson, the paint lord, yes.
I guess he was in charge of all of our paint for our productions.
He got the tech specs for what Ron used on the walls.
Michael, thank you so much for going to this link for us and our listeners.
Here's what it was.
It was a product called Wildfire And evidently, it is only available through film industry vendors, at least at the time, and it is a liquid reactive medium vehicle that responds to blacklight but is invisible to the eye and normal light.
Basically, it's just a really high -end black light paint.
Okay. And that is what we splattered all over.
All over the place.
And then he sent me a photo of his view in Florida, and it is gorgeous.
I know he moved there.
I mean, stunning. He loves it.
I see why. Yes. Look at that.
Oh my gosh. That's lovely.
Right? Yeah. Thank you, Michael Gallenberg.
We also got a fan mail correction from Michael H., who said in this breakdown you said the Blackberry was made by RAM, but it's actually RIM, which stands for research in motion.
They are a Canadian company out of Waterloo, Ontario.
I'm not affiliated with them, but I am a proud Canadian.
So, giving some love to Canada there.
Was I the one that got it wrong?
No, it was me. Oh, okay, yeah.
Don't worry. Finally, we've got a callback catch from Chris S.
in Toronto. Chris says, I've been waiting for the convention for so long, haha, but may have missed the boat.
My fan catch is, Angela, You got such a kick out of Pam storming off and leaving her food in season one, which I also loved as an observation.
But it immediately made me think of the convention when you storm off after Meredith says, that town smells like cheesesteak, leaving behind what looks like a bowl of cereal, which Creed promptly begins to eat.
It's just a small catch, but I've been waiting since season one to write in about it.
All right, Angela, I saw this piece of mail as well, And it made me want to ask you in the same way that you have made me reexamine my strong position about Jim and Pam's first kiss, have you reconsidered your judgment of Pam for storming off and leaving part of her meal on the table?
Here now your character does it in this episode.
You said you would never in your life leave a half -eaten meal behind if you were in an argument, you would at least pick up your things and take them with you.
wait are you asking me the person or Angela Martin the character?
I think I'm asking you the person because you the person judged Pam.
I'm sorry I still think I would grab my food and go.
Even an argument! Why would I leave my food?
It's my food, I might not like the company I'm in but I'm gonna take my food with me.
This was the same argument you made the first time and I mean it's It's not unreasonable.
It's not unreasonable.
Yeah, I don't know.
Just because someone's pissing me off doesn't mean they get to, like, have my food.
I'm taking it. I'm going to eat it.
All right, well, thank you everyone for writing in.
I hope we cleared up a few things.
And now, here is the convention.
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Howdy, everybody. Angela Kinsey here.
It's Jenna, and today we're talking about the convention.
It's season three, episode two.
Written by Leigh Eisenberg and Jean Stepnicki.
And directed by Ken Whittingham.
Jenna, this was a really fun episode for me.
I got to travel. I got to go on the road.
I know, remember last week, we were talking all about how we got that big season three bump so we could leave the office and do things.
Hello, we created an entire paper convention in episode two.
We are going for it this season.
All right, well, let's get into this episode.
I have a summary for you.
I'm so excited. Here we go.
Do it. Thanks, babe.
Babe read me your summary, babe.
Sweetie, here we go.
Doll face, read your summary, doll face.
Hey toots, I got a summary for you.
Sweet cheeks, read your summary, sweet cheeks.
You know what, I might have just watched the Broadway HD 42nd street.
Oh, by the way, we watched that, Lee and I, we really miss live theater.
We really miss it, it's one of our loves.
And they have this great catalog of Broadway shows on Broadway HD, and so we watched 42nd Street.
It's so good! The woman who plays the lead, her name is Clara.
And oh my god, she is mind -blowing.
The tap dancing this woman does is just insane.
So anyway, but that show has a lot of like, toots, darling, babe, honey.
Because you know, it's all set back in the time.
I don't know what time that was.
What was that, the roaring 20s?
Oh yeah. When is the time?
Roring 20s probably.
Yeah, all right anyway summary.
Summary, listen you watch your Broadway shows on the telly, I'm gonna watch my Hummingbirds, yeah.
This is what we're doing.
This is what we're doing.
Maybe I'll put on the Weather Channel, I don't know, anything could happen okay.
Okay, Michael and Dwight traveled to Philadelphia to meet Jan, Jim, and Josh for the Northeastern mid -market office supply convention.
Meanwhile back in Dunder Mifflin Kelly sets up Pam on a date with her neighbor Allen.
He's a cartoonist they're gonna have so much in common right?
But Angela sneaks off to surprise Dwight.
All right fast fact number one we've got a big guest star Robert Bagnell who played Alan the cartoonist. Now you might recognize him because he I also played Tom Peterman on HBO's The Comeback, starring Lisa Kudrow.
Did you watch that show?
I did. I thought she was so funny.
Well, the whole cast was phenomenal.
I was obsessed with that show.
Like, obsessed. It is such an amazing satire of the entertainment industry.
Yeah. Of an actress.
Yes. Like there's this scene where she opens up a refrigerator and there's nothing in there except for like seltzer water and these prepackaged diet meals and it made me laugh so hard. She's so self -obsessed and narcissistic and she plays it perfectly.
Check it out guys. It's amazing.
And Robert Bagnell is on there.
so I was so excited to get to work with him but I knew him!
How? We used to do this thing called Instant Films together where they take these writers, directors, actors, and crew and you get 48 hours to make a short film you're randomly matched.
You start at like 7AM on Saturday with a little script that's so fun!
Yeah, I have friends that did this and I don't know why I didn't participate, but I have friends that did this and loved it.
Well, it's funny, Anj, because you're always kind of talking about how you did the Groundlings or you did the sketch shows, improvlympic festivals, Yeah, I didn't do any of that stuff, but I did do these like short films, short film festivals, and then they do one for plays as well.
They do like a 24 hour play where you have to stage a mini play in 24 hours.
So I would do like that kind of stuff.
But I knew him from that.
That's how I knew Robert.
He was in the instant film world with me.
Oh wow. That's so cool.
So I reached out to him and we had the best conversation about his time on the show.
And then he sent me like two pages of memories.
Stop it! Yes! That's so fantastic.
So kind, so generous.
So he told me that the way he got the role on the show was through Mike Shur.
How? That Mike Shur had been a writer on season one of The Comeback.
Oh. And he had actually left The Comeback to go work on the office.
I never knew that. Me either.
Oh my God, I would totally have talked to him about that.
I know, right? That was so cool.
I know, right? How did I not know, to pepper Mike, sure, about come back questions?
Lisa Kudrow tidbits, please.
But here is the craziest thing about him.
Do you want to hear this crazy personal connection?
Okay. Alright. Were you and him dating in college?
No, I'm kidding. Go.
No. No. But around the same time that he was guest starring on The Office, he also had a role in a movie written by my now husband, Lee Kirk, but we didn't know.
Stop it! Yes! He was in this movie called Pants on Fire that was directed by Colin Campbell, written by my husband, Lee.
And so it was like he was doing this scene with me on The Office, and then he was shooting this role in Lee's movie.
But Lee and I weren't loved.
And we're not even a thing or knew each other on each other's radars.
That is crazy. No! I know such a small world that is so crazy that Yeah, that those are the little mind -meld moments for me where your lives are criss -crossing and you don't even know it so you and Lee had this existence criss crossing and That's so wild.
I love that. Well, the crazy thing is is that movie pants on fire?
that script was sent to me as a writing sample of Lee's I was gonna produce a movie and and I needed a writer, and I got Pants on Fire as the writing sample and I fell in love with it.
And I took a meeting with Lee.
And then he ended up writing a film for me called The Giant Mechanical Man.
And that is how Lee and I fell in love.
That's so crazy. With that we work together on Giant Mechanical Man, which Lee then directed.
Wow. And Robert was in that movie.
Robert was in Pants on Fire.
Isn't that crazy? That is so crazy.
I love that. all right so anyway i have a ton of fun information from robert and i will sprinkle that in as we get to those scenes okay so what's up what's up what's next lady with your fast facts next fast fact number two sam could i get a fan question what fan question it's a fan question angela fast fact two is a fan question i have got to get my kids Recording some stuff and then I've got to send it over to Sam and I'm gonna sprinkle one in next week That was my daughter.
That's my So, you know cuz my son got to do the deep dive last week.
So that's good That's she gave me a fan question sting because fast fact number two is all fan questions starting with Ryan Apgar Where was the convention filmed Jennifer Berman was it an actual hotel?
did they have to completely rent out entire floors or the entire hotel and Sara Holtz wants to know were the vendors at the convention real or fake so many questions about this convention Angela yeah so you know I went to Kentipedia Kentipedia I know one or two of these but Kent will have the full lowdown so let's hear it all right so Kent told me that we filmed this at the Burbank Hilton hotel, which is now a different hotel.
It's not called the Burbank Hilton anymore, right?
But it's near, if memory serves as kind of over by the Burbank airport, yes, yeah.
He said they did not book the entire hotel, but they did book the largest convention room that the hotel had.
And they had to book that room for the entire week because it took It took two full days just to set it up to look like a convention.
So he said they started on Monday, filling it with all the booths and all the stuff.
When I got there, it looked like a full on convention.
It really did. So Kent told me that he really leaned on his production staff.
And when he wrote me, he said, will you please give these guys a shout out because they were instrumental in making this happen?
Angela, I'm going to hit you with some names.
Do you remember Angie Hamilton and James Carey, who worked with Kent?
Yes, of course, of course I remember them.
Angie was our co -producer, James Carey was the office manager.
He said they were tipped off a few weeks before this episode was set to film, that they were going to have to pull off a convention.
So the two of them reached out to literally hundreds of corporations and businesses and asked if they wanted to be in the episode.
And here was the deal.
The deal was they had to bring their own convention materials.
They had to set up their own booths, provide their own staff and wardrobe to sort of populate them during the episode.
And they were told that they could not promise that they would get screen time, but they could try, you know they were like we'll try to people who wanted to participate.
The show was now so popular, people were like, delighted to participate.
So all those people, he said, in the end there were 176 total, quote, unquote, extras, background performers.
And 140 of them were actual employees of actual companies.
That's why it looks so real.
Cause I thought that, I thought when I looked through it I was like, these look like real companies and their shirts matched and things like that.
Like, details that I feel like would have been So hard for us to pull off but it's because they were actual companies I feel like this is the only way you could have done that there's no way that Carrie Bennett our wardrobe designer could have painstakingly designed matching wardrobes for multiple companies Yeah in two weeks time I mean This is the kind of stuff that movies have months of preparation for you know And in TV, you have to pull it off in just a matter of weeks.
So that's how they did it That's amazing.
You know, James was supposed to print this out and my printer was out of ink.
We were on set all day, so it's not like we could just run and buy printer ink or run and, you know, whatever it was we needed to do.
And I would go in there so many times and he'd be like, All right, Angela, what do you need and I'm like, can you print this for me?
Because I told my mom I'd mail it to her and my printer, but he was just always there to help and just they were amazing.
Angela, I found a bunch of old photos of our crew and I cried looking through them.
I just. You know, it's there's the thing that everybody sees when they're watching the show, which are the actors.
But what we saw on the set were all these other faces looking back at us, and to see these pictures of our sound folks, and our gaffers, and our lighters, and our PAs, and to see all their faces again.
It was just, oh my gosh, Angela.
It was amazing. All right.
All right. Where are we at, lady?
Fast fact number three.
This episode almost featured a cameo by Mackenzie Crook who played the original kind of Dwight.
Dwight version on the BBC version.
So this was a little nugget that I found on I believe it was Dunderpedia, but I remember this.
So I believe if memory serves Mackenzie was in town doing a big press tour for a movie.
I think it might have been one of the, Oh my god, Angela, what's the name of that movie that Johnny Depp is in where he plays the pirate?
Oh, Pirates of the Caribbean.
What is that Johnny Depp movie where he plays a pirate?
I don't know. He kind of flirts speech He's set in the Caribbean.
Yeah, and he's like Remember that one?
He's like, What's that called?
You're savvy, you're savvy.
My stepson, Jack, was so obsessed with those movies that one year for Halloween, he wanted to be Captain Jack Sparrow.
We got him the full costume and then on Christmas Day, we were like guys you want to dress up for Christmas?
We bought him all like Christmas onesies.
And Jack said can I just dress as Captain Jack Sparrow?
So we have this hilarious photo in front of the Christmas tree and Isabelle and Kate are in Christmas onesies.
They look like an elf, you know and Jack is full Jack Sparrow Well, you know McKenzie crook was in those Yes.
Yeah. Yeah, so I believe he was in town doing this press junket tour, he wanted to have him just appear at the convention in one of the booths and have a little chat with our Dwight.
So the two kind of Dwight's with me.
I know wouldn't that have been amazing?
But then the scheduling did not work out.
He couldn't come. You know what?
That's like when you're doing a press junket, especially.
I mean, I don't know what it's like to do a press junket for a movie that size or a series that size, but he couldn't come he wanted to he couldn't come he's the nicest guy I've met him he's awesome but I know almost almost a meeting of the Dwight's almost happened but did not Jenna I am so bummed he didn't come because I'm such a fan and I love that Greg was always trying to incorporate the BBC cast and we we got to meet them several times but that would have been really cool Jenna thank you so much for three fantastic fast facts maybe we should take a break and then we'll come back and into this episode.
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Pam is at her desk, and Michael enters and says, hey, did you see Oprah?
Because I want to be a father.
And you're like, wait, wait, what was on Oprah?
Michael's big takeaway from watching Oprah is that he learns that Angelina Jolie has adopted a baby, So now he wants to adopt a baby.
Yeah. And he wants Pam to get on it.
Pam, get on it. And Pam's like, I think you should wait because Roy's sister looked into it.
And like the application alone cost $1000.
And Michael's like, can't you find me a cheaper baby?
And then she's like, well, also, it takes a long time.
Like the waiting period, it's like eight months.
And he's like, Oh my God, I don't even know if I'm going to want a baby in eight months.
Steve's play on that was really funny, and your reaction was so good.
Your reaction, when you say, what was on Oprah?
I'm like, I'm scared.
Where is this going?
Where is this going?
Well, in the end, Pam agrees that she will have Michael's baby if neither one of them have a baby in 30 years.
Because she sees like, I can't, I'm not going to get out of this.
Yeah. Yeah. But I know that's gonna come back to haunt her.
So in 30 years, when you're 50, you'll have his baby.
I'll have his baby.
Oh my gosh. Exactly, when I'm like 56, basically.
Well, there you go.
But you know Michael is gonna go around and tell people that he and Pam have agreed to have a baby.
He's gonna leave out the in 30 years part.
This conversation is going to haunt her now, for sure.
For sure, he's gonna tell people you guys are each other's backup plan.
Yeah. So now we're in the actual episode and Michael, you know, is packing first trip.
He has Ryan helping him.
Here's his, his packing list, right?
For this convention.
Three pairs of pants.
Three pairs of socks.
3 packs of condoms. Three packs.
Fun jeans. 3 packs...
Jenna! I shouldn't have. But I did a deep dive on how many condoms come in a pack.
How many? Like a dozen?
I, I mean. I feel like they're sort of a range.
But normally it's like 36, I think?
36 in a pack? That's what I saw on a website.
Maybe that's not true.
I don't know. I don't know, do we go to Sam on this?
Sam, do you want to contribute to how many packs are in?
How many condoms are in a pack?
Well, I do appreciate you guys always throwing to me for drugs or sexual deviant things.
I don't actually know this one.
Oh, good answer, Sam.
Good answer. Okay, also, switching gears, So as Michael points out, that he also wants to take his fun jeans, just so you guys know fun jeans apparently are white.
Michael's jeans are white.
Yes, I'd like to point out he is still dry cleaning his jeans.
Yes, they're in the bag.
We set that up in an earlier episode and I love that that got called back.
So Angela comes in and she needs Michael to sign for his per diem.
I have two things I wanna point out.
Number one Jenna, did you see how sassy my ponytail is?
Yes, I pointed it out later, I noticed it when you are in the break room.
I actually wrote it down.
Do you wanna know why it looks like that?
Why? Well, this was around the beginning of the whole Emmy season, award show season and we were going to parties and things and I had a fancy hair blowout and when I came to work on Monday, I still had great day two hair.
So Kim Ferry who did hair put it up in this ponytail and it had all this wave and texture to it and she was like, let's just go with it.
Angela has a sassy ponytail and so then she had to match that each day after but that's why i have a festive pony I totally 100 noticed it so now Michael has a very funny talking head bitch and I have a question for you these are these scenes that we never see that were never written that i wish had happened because at two minutes 36 seconds Michael refers to josh as the poor man's Michael Scott or at least that's how he's known around my condo.
Jenna, is he talking about Josh Porter to his neighbors and his condo unit?
Like, is he like, well, you know, poor man, Michael Scott?
Like, how much is he just jabbering away at his neighbors about Josh Porter?
It's funny. I did not even hear it like that.
I heard it as maybe something Michael has muttered out loud to himself within the walls of his own condo.
Oh, that's even sadder.
Yeah. That's how he's known around Michael's condo.
In my mind, I saw him, like, you know, at the little wall where all the mailboxes are, and he's opening his mailbox and someone walks up.
And he's like, oh, poor man's Michael Scott.
I guess I'm friends with Jim now.
And the person's like, yeah, yeah.
OK. Bye, Michael. All right.
Sorry. That just tickled me.
OK, so now we're going to move into the break room.
Angela and Dwight, they're standing on opposite ends of the room.
They are not looking at each other.
Angela is upset that Dwight is going on this trip because she just really wants to spend time with him and but Dwight is so excited to go on this trip.
It's a big deal for him to be included assistant regional manager.
This is like a big part of his job.
Angela, it so tickles me how you guys are standing, how you guys aren't looking at each other.
Your characters would do this all the time as if people would not be confused by this if they walked in the room.
No, this is sort of a classic Dwight Angelo moment within the office that I love so much. Here's a little interesting tidbit about this and this is on the internet so you can read about it, but there was a different scene at the table read, I believe it's at the table read.
It didn't make it into the shooting draft where I was upset with Dwight that he was going, so that was the same and Dwight and I have this exchange in the kitchen where I'm upset with him.
And then at the very end, I say, I'm late.
And it's like this cliffhanger, I'm late.
It's like what? Is she pregnant?
Yes. Okay, that did not end up getting shot.
That did not happen.
Cause I think Jenna, as soon as we read it out loud, everyone was like, oh.
And I think Greg was like, wait, this is, okay maybe this is too soon.
This is too soon, right?
That would have been crazy.
That would have been crazy if in this episode that Dwight and Angela are already having a baby.
I know. And you know, it would have been a weird sort of callback to that time when he asked her sort of in code if she was, had any prescriptions, right?
Oh yeah. So anyway, needless to say, they decided to change their minds.
Angela was not late.
She was just upset because she wanted to spend some time with him, which I actually think is really sweet.
Yeah. You sort of get to see the softer side to her.
Yeah. And then I have to bring this up here because, so it will make sense.
You guys there are other scenes that we shot that explains How Angela ultimately ends up in the hotel but there in the deleted scenes.
Yes. There's a whole sort of extra plotline here where Dwight Secretly gives you a ticket on the train to meet him Yeah, I know he gives her that before he leaves but in the break room I have to just share with you guys this this setup of us back -to -back and me at the water cooler and him at vending machines.
We tried a few different positions and this is the one we settled on.
But we got so tickled.
We laughed so hard in this scene.
Just at how absurd it was and then also Ken Whittingham really let us play with how long our pause was until I said, are you still there?
And so there were times where we left a ton of space and we - the longer we didn't say anything to each other but stood back to back the more tickled we got.
And then at the very end, Jenna, I'm curious because I know you have the script, but at the very end, I say, don't monkey me.
You can't wait to get out of here.
A -R -M. And I just like walk out all mad.
Now I remember I improvised that.
Oh yeah, that's not in the script.
Well, when I re -watched it, I really felt like I heard my accent when I said, A -R -M.
I think when you improvise your accent comes out more.
A little bit more, yeah.
So there you have it, that's our little secret break room scene and Angela was almost gonna have Dwight's baby here.
Yeah. In an alternate universe?
Mm -hmm. Okay, so now we go to your talking head, Angela.
Okay, and this has one of my favorite lines, Angela, you say, in the Martin family, we like to say looks like someone took the slow train from Philly and you explained that that's code for check out the slut.
Yeah. I am. And then I say, why are there flies in here?
Yes. We have a fan question from Cody gold about your talking head.
In Angela's talking head, she squats at a fly.
Was that scripted or did another bug harass Angela like in the episode The Fire?
First of all, Cody, we love that you called back the bug from The Fire episode.
Angela, what is the deal?
I don't know. I don't know what the deal is with me and flying bugs.
seriously but I was because I was wondering about this too I have the shooting draft I didn't see anything about a fly all right so Jenna do you remember when we were filming this episode it was insanely hot there was this crazy heatwave it was in August and as a result there were all of these like flies I don't know if you remember this oh yeah it was like a fly infestation I think they were coming in to get out of the heat I think they were too I think We'd open the door.
The flies were like, it's super hot out.
Yeah, the flies were like, oh, air conditioning.
I'm getting in there.
So this talking head, we filmed it right after lunch that day.
And you know, whenever we would have lunch, Jenna, they would leave the doors open longer.
Yeah. To kind of air it out.
And there were like five or six of these dudes buzzing around my head the whole time I was doing this talking head.
So one time I just swatted at one while staying in character.
And Gene, our writer was in the room with me and that cracked him up.
he loved it. And he was like, Ang, will you swat at flies again?
And I was like, okay.
So I did it again. But this time I ad libbed the line.
Why are there flies in here?
And then we did another take and I swatted more.
And I ad libbed that, you know what, this is all Kevin's fault.
He had smelly takeout.
And I did this whole really mean riff on Kevin's food that attracted the flies.
That did not make it in, but my other improv line did.
Oh, my God. That is amazing.
But here's the thing, Angela, but I'll have you know, none of your talking head that is in the script is the same as the episode.
I looked it up. What, so the slow train from Philly isn't in the script?
Slow train from Philly is not in the script either.
Fly is not in the script.
Slow train from Philly, not in the script.
Here is what your talking head was supposed to be.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I wanna hear it.
Here it is. Yes, Michael and Dwight Schrute are going to a convention in Philadelphia.
Personally, I find even the idea of a convention repulsive.
all those people from different places gathered together breathing hot breath all over each other, it's disgusting.
Did you like my attempt to read it as Angela Martin?
I loved it, I loved it.
I remember when we were doing this talking head, Jane and Lee handed me a page of alts, Jenna, I had a huge alt list. We called it the candy bag, you remember?
Oh yeah, yeah, no, when we would do our talking heads, we would have the one that was in the script.
But then as soon as we sat down in the chair, they would hand us pages of alternate talking heads.
And sometimes the alternates made it in the show and sometimes it was the scripted version.
Exactly and this is the perfect example of that.
Lee and Jean our writers from this episode gave me a page of alts.
Clearly slow train from Philly won.
Everyone loved that.
I improvised the line about the flies cause flies were literally buzzing my head the whole time and that's how we got this talking head.
Cody, we loved your question.
So now Kelly comes up to Pam's desk.
Guys, she's Full Mindy.
She's very excited because she has set up Pam with her neighbor, Allen.
Yes. I was gonna play my sting which sounds like this, Full Mindy.
Yeah, you got to get your stings in, Angela I've got a few.
I know. I've got a few for this episode, you got to get yours in.
When I say play my sting, it's just me doing it.
There's no button, I'm not hitting a button.
Well, Pam has this talking head where she explains that Alan is a cartoonist for the local paper he likes to draw.
She's kind of nervous because she has not been on a first date in nine years.
Nine years. She says probably shouldn't broadcast that.
And I don't know why Jenna, it just tickled me that Pam would say broadcast. Like, really?
I don't know why, it just seemed like such like an old lady term.
Don't broadcast it, I don't know.
Well, of course, Michael is leaving now for Philadelphia, and he overhears that Pam is going on this date.
And Kelly tells Pam not to sleep with Alan on the first date, but Michael tells Pam that she should unbutton her blouse a little bit.
Let those guys breathe.
Doesn't he say something like that?
Let them breathe. He's always wanting them to breathe or set them free.
He's very concerned about your tatas being confined.
So, people wrote in and wanted to know, if the um, sort of like song and dance of Michael and Dwight as they're leaving the office, if that was scripted or if those guys just made that up, they totally made that up.
They totally made that up.
There is a stage direction after they give her grief for saying um, and then it just says they both laugh and walk out the door.
Yes. So that whole, out the door business, that was them having fun, for sure.
Well, one of the things I really remember about this episode once I got to the hotel where we were filming is those guys were like they were like kids in the candy jar.
They were having so much fun just all riffing off each other and I think they really did when they would get together especially John, Rein and Steve they would just get giddy.
There is so much improvisation that happens at the convention we will get there but yes you're right you're right.
All right so now Angela we have this scene in the kitchen Creed comes up to you and he asks you how he can get a little of that per diem money yeah right so then Meredith makes a comment that the whole town of Philadelphia just smells like cheese steaks and for whatever reason Angela you are very offended by this yes I say that town is full of history and I get up and I storm out and I leave my food Jenna Sam can I get my sting oh good god.
Where's the beef? Where's the beef?
Where's the beef? I'll tell you where the beef is.
Angela. You have a beef with beef?
I have a beef and I'm not the only one.
Oh, my Lord. Meghan Keller wrote in to say, not a question.
But in the Hot Girl podcast, Angela laughed when Pam got up and left her lunch. When Roy says if he wasn't dating Pam, he would ask Katie out.
But at four minutes, 55 seconds.
Angela walks away from her cereal.
She just stormed away from her food.
Sarah Donaldson says Jenna can you please give Angela some what's for after the hard time she gave Pam first storming off and leaving her plate of food when Angela does the same thing at 4 minutes 55 seconds.
Alright Angela, I have a beef.
Fine fine, okay, fine I get it I get that apparently on this show, if you get ticked off enough at someone, you just get up and you leave your food.
Fine, okay fine. I'm sorry everybody.
I am sorry. My character does it too.
I apologize. I apologize.
But let me just say in the moment when you were taping that scene, did you stop and say, guys I'm so sorry.
This isn't realistic.
I would never just storm away and leave my cereal here.
But you actually had to leave your cereal there because Creed's going to start eating it.
Creed is going to start eating it, which is hilarious.
And then he has one of his all time, favorite lines.
He has told me this is one of his favorite lines from the whole series.
That's Andrea, the office bitch. You'll get used to her.
And then introduces himself to Meredith.
Exactly, exactly. And then I have to point out my character, she started being a hypocrite cause earlier she's like, well, you know, code for slut is like someone who looks like they took the slow train to Philly.
So Philly is like not a good place.
But then here, she's like, it's full of history.
All right, now it's five minutes, 10 seconds, and Dwight and Michael are on the train.
They are headed to Philadelphia.
That's right, Michael has his headphones on.
He has Dwight's neck pillow, which he pretends he can't hear Dwight asking for.
I have some fun facts about this.
On Dunderpedia, it says that there is no passenger rail service between Scranton and Philadelphia.
and maybe that was true back in the day when we shot this, but today I looked it up.
Amtrak does offer two trains per day.
It takes about three hours to get to Philadelphia from Scranton by Train, and tickets start at $41 .00.
Well, I would think that there would be a train.
That makes sense. Yeah, so now there is a train.
I went to Kentopedia because I was fascinated by the fact that we shot on an actual Amtrak train.
Because we did, that was not like some fancy weird green screen thing happening.
That was a train. So here's what Kent told me, Ange.
What? I want to hear it.
They let us shoot on the train for free, for free!
Yes! But, we had to agree that we would not disrupt their schedule in any way.
So, on day two of filming while the set dressers and the production designers were setting up the hotel room at the convention, Steve and Rainne and a very small crew with about five extras, they loaded into vans and they drove to the Simi Valley train station.
They boarded the caboose car at 10 30 a .m. They were given the caboose car all to themselves.
They got settled. The train started moving.
Kent said they got their first shot off at 1103.
Then, when the train arrived at the Burbank Airport station at 11 27, they got off the and there were vans waiting to pick them up and take them back to our main set.
And that's how we got that train stuff.
Isn't that insane? I love that, what like specific details that Kent like gave you.
It's amazing, Kentopedia, you are amazing.
One of the reasons why Kent and I are friends is because I so fully appreciate the detail that he has kept in a way that I'm not sure many other people would.
I know, you do. I'm like...
You do. Kenz and I are of a simil spreadsheets in order.
We guys, there are some other the train that are really to the DVD set if you hav Alright, well then they 'r philly, they're going to They're reunited, They're and Michael and josh and bit of a background catc at five minutes 34 seconds, Dwight is wearing his name tag.
You know, they have these lanyards around their neck, right?
Yeah. Dwight is wearing his, and then at five minutes 59 seconds, he's putting it on, and it's got all this writing on it.
Like, he's got all of his phone numbers in Sharpie, he's got his cell phone, his home, his pager, he's got his room number, 556 on there, and he's written in a little assistant.
He wrote in a little arrow.
So it's like assistant to the regional manager.
He like changed his like title.
Oh my gosh, that is amazing.
So they're all reunited now at the convention and this was calculated.
They knew that they needed to keep Jim and Pam apart by sending Jim to Stanford, but they did not want to keep Jim from interacting with Dwight and Michael.
So that was kind of the reason for this whole episode was to get Jim back in the world with these other characters but still separate him from Pam, who is back at the office dealing with her own stuff.
All right. I have two things, Jenna, that I think will be kind of fun that we clock.
We like to track things guys at six minutes, 15 seconds.
Oh, there's a good, good example of Jim saying D white.
Ooh, there's a D white.
Yes, Jim has a talking head.
And John says D white.
It's huge. So there you go.
I love to track it when he says DeWhite, and then back in the office at six minutes, 31 seconds.
Well, some big information is revealed to Toby about Pam.
Yeah, Jenna, what? You are now, Pam is like the hot new meat in the office.
Yeah, she's back on the market.
Kevin says that if he wasn't engaged, he would quote, so hit that, Kevin Gross.
Guess what I wrote down?
What? Tracking the perv, tracking the Kevin perv.
You're tracking the Kevin perv.
This is Kevin perv.
Six minutes. It's so true.
31 seconds Kevin perv.
But the look that Paul Lieberstein does as Toby, that look is gold.
Oh my gosh, Toby has it so bad for Pam.
I know, I know. And then Pam is in the kitchen, and she's reading some of Alan's cartoons, her her blind date, Alan.
I'm sorry. Is, is Pam prepping for her date?
Jenna? Is this a little bit of Jenna and Pam like, Oh, I have a date with this person.
I'm going to deep dive.
Is Pam doing a deep dive?
I don't know if reading his cartoons… She's taking an interest. She hasn't been on a date in nine years, she's trying to, But she's doing her due diligence.
And Kelly enters and she gushes about how smart his cartoons are that she doesn't even understand them sometimes.
And then Toby walks in the kitchen, and he kind of tries to get Pam's attention.
But now she's not clocking Toby.
It just when I watched him try to he tries to wave. She doesn't notice many ghosts in the bathroom.
the track that I could hear was.
Totally, totally sad scene from like peanuts.
Alright, well then we go back to the convention and Michael and Dwight are setting up their hotel room.
They've got a mini dart board. They've got some booze and Michael has strategically asked for and chosen a room close to the elevator because he thinks that he'll get more foot traffic that way.
He thought about it and he knows.
Hopefully it wasn't by the service elevator.
Yeah, this is true.
Who wants the room by the elevator, Michael?
But he's ready for, you know, he's ready to party, Jenna.
Because there ain't no party like a Scranton party cause the Scranton party don't stop, yeah?
What, what? Yeah. Ain't no party like a Scranton party cause the Scranton party don't stop.
What, what? You know it.
Jim and Josh come by and they think that they should get to their meeting with Jan. Yeah.
Right. They are here to work.
They're here to work, but Michael is like, come on, you've got time for shots.
And then Jim and Josh have an inside joke.
Ugh. A shot of Midori.
Jim and Josh have this inside joke and they start cracking up and then Michael and Dwight so desperately want to be a part of this.
They start laughing really hard, like too hard. Yeah.
They have no idea what they're laughing at.
And it's so embarrassing when Jim's like, ah, no, actually is inside joke.
Yeah. You would not actually laugh at that.
You don't know what we're talking about.
And then Michael has that sad, sad line that he loves inside jokes and he's always wanted to be a part of one.
Yeah. I wish I was.
I love inside jokes.
I'd love to be a part of one someday.
Stop it. Now, I wanna point something out here.
What? Michael and Dwight are wearing matching gray Dunder Mifflin shirts.
And then Jim and Josh are wearing kind of matching light colored shirts.
They're wearing white button downs.
Well one of them has like a slight pink hue to it and I feel like Johns has a slight yellow hue to it.
Maybe that's just my computer monitor.
Because I watched this on my computer.
I didn't say the pink.
They were not exactly matching to me, which actually, I felt like made it even cooler because they're like, you know what?
Just any light colored button -down will do.
Just make it a light color.
Cream, off white, white, light pink, light yellow, anything.
They are strategically unbuttoned at the exact same place.
Maybe that's just where all men unbutton their shirts, but I found it a little odd.
I don't know. Check it out.
But I want to say something about those grey Dunder Mifflin shirts that Dwight and Michael are wearing.
After this episode, I went to Carrie Bennett and I asked if she had any extras, and she gave me one and I sent it to my dad.
Awww. Now this was before you could buy them.
This was before Dunder Mifflin Merchandise was out there, and he used to wear it around.
He was an engineer, a plastics engineer, and he went on the road a lot.
And he would have to visit factories to help them with troubleshooting issues with their production line, OK?
So he traveled a lot and he would wear it when he traveled to these factories and people would say, oh, Dunder Mifflin Paper Company.
What is that? And he would just he would smile and he would just say, oh, that's that's the company where where my daughter works.
Look at your dad being coy, but so proud.
That's so cute. But then some people would put it together and then he would be so excited.
And he would be like, oh, well my daughter gave it to me.
Oh, your daughter gave it to you?
Where did she get it?
Oh, she hasn't in. She's the receptionist there.
And they would be like, wait, what?
Yeah, he was so proud, my dad.
That was so cute. My dad was the same way.
Any photo from anything I was in, I mean, anything, he would either screen -grab it or find a way to print it or get a copy of it but he would always make the photo so big and he'd hang it on the wall.
I would go home and there'd be a photo.
Jenna, if you and I had some event, it'd be just like some little thing.
you and I were doing.
There were photos with you.
I don't know that I've ever shared this with you but there are photos of you in my parents home that my dad printed up.
Jenna you're like 8 by 11 by 14.
There are humongous photos of us on the wall.
Oh my god I love that.
But you get it right?
Could you imagine if one of your kids was on a TV show I feel like I would do the same thing.
Oh yeah, I would collect everything.
I would save everything.
Parents are the best, call your parents.
Okay, so nine minutes, 13 seconds, Michael and Dwight are at the convention.
There's some really great shots now of all the vendors and you really get a sense of how big this room was.
Michael is going around to all the booths and guys, he is really into swag.
He's really into the freebies.
He's got like a foam finger.
I don't know. some shirts, a lanyard or two, some sunglasses, he's got all kinds of stuff.
I wanna say this talking head is not in the script.
Also Jenna, at nine minutes, 12 seconds, we get to see a really fun cameo, it's Jerome Bettis.
Yes, The Bus. The Bus, this was huge.
Guys, to give you some context on Jerome Bettis, in case you don't know, Jerome Bettis is a former NFL halfback who played for the Rams when they were both in St. Louis and in Los Angeles and he also played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
We shot this episode in August 2006.
That February the Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl.
Jerome Bettis retired after that game, literally at the game.
They won the Superbowl.
He gave an interview and was like and now I'm retiring.
So, here's how this went down.
I asked Kentopedia, Jerome Bettis had just been hired by NBC Sports as a commentator.
And Angela, do you remember our NBC rep, Vernon Sanders?
Of course, I love Vernon!
Love Vernon, Vernon called Greg and Kent and said what do you think about a little crossover thing here where Jerome Bettis does a cameo at the convention?
Greg loved the idea.
And got together, they wrote a scene like on the fly.
And then they shot it on day four of the shoot.
It's so perfect, too.
It's so perfect that Michael would invite him to his party and then want him to commit to coming.
Can I tell people you're coming?
Can I tell people you're coming?
Oh, so good. All right, so, Jenna, I have a question for you since you have the script.
As Dwight and Michael are walking away from Jerome, Dwight says, why do they call him the bus?
And I swear I heard Michael say, Because he doesn't like to fly?
Yeah, that was scripted.
That was scripted? That exchange was scripted.
Yeah, his nickname was The Bus.
Yeah. And the reason his nickname was The Bus was because he had this ability to keep running down the field while carrying other players on his back.
Through people basically.
If you grabbed onto him, he could keep on going.
He just kept going.
Yes. But Michael Michael thinks it's because he doesn't like to fly.
Yes, exactly. Well, I just want to round this out by telling you guys a few things when I was deep diving on Jerome Bettis.
He seems like a super great guy.
He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015 and he has the Jerome Bettis Bus Stop Here Foundation, which is dedicated to improving the overall quality of life for troubled and underprivileged inner city youth, and he has delivered over 1000 pairs of cleats to children in the Detroit school system.
So he's a good guy.
Jerome, just so you know, if you ever hear this, we tried to figure out how to contact you, but we couldn't figure it out.
We wanted, I did, to give you a little love and ask you a few questions, but we couldn't figure it out.
So if Jenna slid into your DMs, no red flags, she was just wanting to talk to you about this episode.
Oh, the number of DMS I've slid into for this show, Angela, it's a lot, it's a lot.
So now you're going to just see some wide shots of the convention and Michael walking around and he goes up to a Blackberry phone mascot, right?
Yeah, he does. So someone in a Blackberry costume and he's just starts messing with them and he even invites them to the party.
Yeah, well, we had a fan question from Rebecca Spector and Lauren Wood.
they both want to know who was in the cellphone mascot costume.
I want to know that too.
Yeah. So there is some lore.
There's some office lore.
Okay. That it was Phil Shay.
Well, that's what I thought.
Yeah. I reached out to Phil.
He said he was not in the Blackberry costume.
He said he had a contact at RAM technology, which are the people who make Blackberry, and he got them to send over someone from their company with the Blackberry costume and that's who it was.
Well it was an official...
an official Blackberry mascot.
It wasn't us pretending to be the mascot person, it was the official real deal.
Oh, that's right. There you go.
So, should we go back to Dunder Mifflin and see Pam and Toby again?
Should we and Toby and Toby's awkward attempt to ask Pam out?
Oh, it's so sad. He walks up to her desk and she gets a phone call and he waits and waits.
And he loses his nerve and he can't do it.
Now, while he's losing his nerve, did you notice that Paul drums his fingers on the reception desk?
And remember when I told you guys that Paul would do this, He was a drummer.
Oh yeah. So here he does it.
He drums at reception while he's waiting for Pam.
It's just something that Paul does naturally, so I don't even know that he really realized he was doing it.
I know he was showing that Toby was nervous and anxious, but that movement that you see his hands do, he used to do all the time.
Well, we had a couple of fans write in with a catch at ten minutes thirty five seconds.
What? Bailey Aspinson said, why are there the times and names of TV shows on a post -it note at reception?
Yeah, and Claudia Cano said, there are two post -it notes on Pam's desk.
One says, 7 to 8 p .m. Big Brother CBS, 8 to 9 p .m. Animal Planet, Jane Goodall Returns!
A and E, first 48 hours.
And then there's a second post -it note, which reads facts Jan, David, and Connie.
So she wrote, my two questions are, are those a list of TV shows that Pam watches?
And my second question is, who is Connie?
So I looked at these, these are both in my handwriting.
I don't know. I don't know who Connie is.
I clearly just threw that in there as a little bit of, I don't know, spice.
And guys, that was a list of the shows I was planning to watch that night.
That that's just a note to myself.
Apparently I remember being very much into Big Brother and I guess I really wanted to make sure I didn't forget to watch this Animal Planet special on Jane Goodall.
And then if I had time I was going to watch some 48 hours.
But you guys just to know Jenna, she of course would write that down and write down the time and everything.
It wouldn't just be like oh I think I want check these out tonight.
of my evening here will for tonight.
Well, I thin everything you need to kn a little trash tv.
I love I do like a good mystery.
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What and why would you want a sandwich when you went to bed?
Huh? Ell MacPherson, huh?
What are you talking about right now?
I'm gonna keep going.
I'm gonna wait to see when you get it Oh, leaving the ham out for the bear was a joke.
Oh, it's his birthday.
Oh, surprise. What a bunch of assholes.
Are you with me yet?
No, Elle MacPherson left a ham out.
Elle MacPherson is in bed and says you know, I'd really like a sandwich. Oh my, wait.
No, you did not. I watched the edge.
You didn't. Oh, I could cry.
What did you think?
I watched the edge.
These were my comments right out of the gate.
Okay, right away as they start watching the movie.
I'm not getting on that plane.
Who's getting on that plane?
What do you mean getting it?
Looks safe already already.
I'm anxious Jenna They're on this plane and now they're going to the middle of nowhere and then they say don't leave a hand don't leave food out Then he's got to get up and make her a sandwich and she left it someone left a ham out and there's a bear and then they're like supplies and I'm like They scared the crap out of me and then I said what a bunch of dicks are good friends I know the quote you love is what one man can do what one man has done another can do do you know the one I love from this movie what is it there goes a guy with a plane I have to say I don't remember that come on you did
not Robert says that a lot and then what did Ella Macpherson what did her character have like etched on his watch for all the nights okay listen you didn't love the mental fortitude and gymnastics that it took for these two people who are kind of at odds to have to work together to survive the wilderness, and a bear that was actively hunting them.
Tracking them. I okay, I like the part when when Anthony Hopkins, his character Charles, as you know, because Alec Baldwin, who plays Robert will say Charles 300 times.
yeah when Charles is like repeat after me this bear is not gonna kill us the bear is not going to kill us yes it's so good it's so good Angela this is written by David Mamet one of the all -time great American playwrights i i i got that it's a masterful work i i got it i got it i think it would be maybe better on the stage is what i'm gonna say how do you do this on the stage I don't know.
You have a person in a bear costume?
I don't know. It's just the way his cadences Charles.
Charles. Anyway, I about pooped myself when several times in this movie.
It was so stressful.
But you loved it? You loved the movie though, right?
I didn't love it. I didn't love it.
But I watched it for you.
I don't ever need to watch it again.
You're not going to watch it annually?
Also, they did so many stupid things.
like like they would finally you know get a gun they could shoot the bear with and then one of them would like throw it in the pit or like get the bullets out of it or they would they were just like none of the none of these things that you're saying yes at the end at the end i don't want to ruin it if anyone hasn't seen it and i know we're going off on a long tangent bear is already dead at that point angela yeah but now there's a man pointing a gun at you and then when he falls in the Pit you like or like I don't need the gun and then he's just gonna keep trying to kill you buddy okay so anyway
okay I don't know what to say anyway anyway listen here's the thing I watched it for you cuz you're my BFF I now get it I get it I'm fascinated that this is a movie that you choose to watch every year it makes me really fascinated by you.
Like I've always thought you were an interesting person.
You're even more complex to me now.
I might have to re -watch it one more time with you so I can trash talk it and if you want to do the same with me, if you want to pick a Game of Thrones episode and trash talk it with me that's fine.
You know I wouldn't do that to you.
Yes you would. I wouldn't do that to you because you love it And I wouldn't do, I wouldn't trash -talk something that you love.
You would maybe, I just don't think I would.
I think you would make some grunting noises and eye rolls.
There'd be something.
No, I would just, I would just mock you to others behind your back.
Aaah. I'm kidding. Vicious.
Anyway. I'm kidding, you know, Angela sweetheart.
You know I would mock you to your face.
That's the kind of friendship we have. Sweetheart.
I was trying to figure out how to bring up the edge to you and that I had watched it.
I watched it three weeks ago and I've been trying to figure out where to bring it up.
And then, and then when all of a sudden Michael was at the buffet, I was like, buffet, ham.
Here's my in. I'm gonna say who left the ham out?
She'll get it right away.
But it's so random.
I get it. It's so random.
Anyway, lady, I watched the edge for you.
I think we're even for a bit.
You watched one 90 minute movie.
I watched three seasons of a television show.
OK, fine. OK, I'm going to start Fleabag, OK?
OK? Yes. OK, watch Fleabag.
Anyway— And we'll discuss— All right, back to the episode— Back to the episode, Jim, he is desperately wanting to ask Michael about Pam.
Yeah. But he just can't even bring himself to ask about her.
Mmm -mmm. No, he asked about Toby.
Yeah. And Michael's like, Toby is everything that's wrong with the paper business, is that why you left?
And all of a sudden, Jenna, it all becomes clear to you that this whole time, Michael really took it personally that Jim left. And he's been trying to figure out why.
He thought it was because of him.
And he needs to know why Jim left, his friend, why would he leave me.
And then there's one, there's a little couple of lines here that made me laugh so hard. Jim, they're talking about Ryan, and Jim says, Tell him I said hi.
And Michael with all seriousness, says I will call him later with that message.
I just pictured Michael just keeps calling Ryan.
Yes, yes, and then they all start to sit down to eat lunch and Michael, he just wants to impress everyone.
He whips out that hundred dollar bill per diem.
It's like, here's the tip.
Yes and the busboy is so excited.
The busboy is like, that's amazing, right?
Yes and Jan is not impressed though because she's just sort of like, you know Michael, we're here for work, we're going to be in and out of meetings all day.
You seem to think this is a party.
So there's a little bit of tension here.
I have a fun fact. I just wanted to point out that hundred dollar bill that Michael pays with today I looked it up that would be worth 126 dollars and three cents.
Oh Jenna. I just wanted to know the value of a hundred dollar bill.
them now. I just wanted to know.
I'm gonna have... And I could have let it go.
I could have kept it to myself.
You could have, but you couldn't.
But I couldn't. You couldn't.
So there it is. There it is.
Well then Jan says, I can't stay on top of you 24 -7.
And Michael has a small nosebleed looking at the camera.
He so desperately wants to say that's what she said.
But then Angela scandal.
Who's in the big sunglasses?
Walking up. What is with your character having all of these like weird incognito, disguised hats and glasses in her closet?
I don't know. You're hilarious.
You draw more attention to yourself than not.
She's got a closet of hats and wigs and glasses.
She's like on the Americans.
Yes. She's got her rendezvous and she's like, and of course why did they use Jane Doe?
That's so creepy. to a key for Jane Doe.
She narrowly avoids Michael.
But she gets her key.
She's checking in. Oh, Jenna, we have to talk about, this is the one moment in the whole episode that Jim and Pam hear each other.
Jim and Pam, it's as close as they'll get to being together.
And it's when Pam calls Michael and Jim overhears.
And he's like, hey, I'm with Jim And Dwight and Josh say hi.
And Pam's like, hi, and that's it.
That's their only moment.
But not only that, this is a layered moment because in this moment, not only did they hear each other's voices, but in this moment, Jim knows that now that Pam is single and Pam now knows that Jim knows because Michael wishes her good luck on your first date.
So Pam knows, Jim knows I'm single.
You know she was hoping he would find out somehow.
Yeah. Now he knows.
He doesn't call. He knows.
Does he? He does not call.
She doesn't call him either.
Why aren't they calling each other?
I don't know. Call each other!
It's like the age of innocence.
I guess so. That book made me crazy.
I'm like just be together already.
All right. Well, then Michael has a talking head where he's kind of going off on Jim.
He says, Jim and I, we have different definitions of friendship.
friendship. Apparently, Jim thinks friendship is moving to Stanford, so he's not going to talk to Jim anymore.
He's had enough. He's like a jilted lover.
He's so heartbroken.
He is. Angela, we had a really great fan catch. You'll like it.
It's from Claudia Kanno. She said there is a rubber ducky, in two shots.
There's one at 14 minutes, 56 seconds, which in the background of this talking head and then again at 90 minutes 47 seconds.
Did Michael travel with the rubber ducky or get it at the convention?
Oh that was a convention giveaway for sure.
That's swag baby that's the swag there it is underneath like on the duck's belly you can't see it it probably says a paper company name.
Like we're not quacking around, we're number one And colored paper.
Exactly. The duck stops here.
Angela, you are really good at these.
Give me more. If you think of more, shout them out.
No, I won't. Okay, well, my favorite part of this Talking Head, Angela, is that we widened to reveal that Michael is actually having a drink with the hammer mill rip.
I know. This whole Talking Head has been delivered with another person in the room.
I have a fun fact about the hammer mill rep.
That was played by actor Matt Price.
Angela, Matt Price screen tested for the role of Dwight.
What? No. I screen tested with him.
He was one of the people that I was paired with at the final audition.
Oh, my god. They loved him and Greg wanted a way to bring him back.
and by the way as we go through the series, a lot of the people who had final screen tests for main roles are brought back as guest stars throughout the show because Greg just loved them so much. I love that about Greg.
I know he doesn't forget people he does if you impress him he'll find a place for you.
All right so at 15 minutes 42 seconds Jim is now going to prank Dwight?
It's like old times right?
He got a key to his room and he is going to go in there and do something.
Alright I have some stories about this day.
Yes because what happens when he opens the door, Angela.
What does Jim find?
A lady on the bed. He finds someone who he thinks is a hooker but it's actually Angela.
Alright. Well Angela fan question from Iva Earle.
Angela is that really your leg that we see in Dwight's hotel room?
Yes, it's really my leg.
And of course they had a whole outfit picked out for me.
I had to have a wardrobe fitting for it, even though you don't really see much, it was conservative.
Sorry to disappoint, but it was a pink pajama top, long sleeve.
And then I have these black polka dot pants like pajama pants, but they were kind of satiny.
Oh, that's the sexy part.
Yes, and so you could see my calf when I raised my leg, And I had painted my toenails red.
So there's that. But I had talked about this scene in an interview because I don't ever get any scenes with Jim.
Jim and Angela rarely interact if you watch the whole show.
Yeah, so John and I as friends in real life, we were giddy.
We were so excited to finally be in the scene together.
And what you guys didn't see was when he opens the door, there's a mirror on the wall and he sees my legs and he freaks out but I could see his whole expression in the mirror.
I could see everything and his face when he saw my legs, every time John did the scene, he would do this range of reaction of like horror and just like shock and it was so funny.
We were laughing so hard trying not to ruin the takes and then of course My character's like D and they they were debating on how much of me they were going to see Yeah, just my legs to really sell it like how much did Jim see of of me, right?
Yeah, so we sort of played around with that a little bit and then Jenna I think this is the first time my character calls Dwight D and we established that nickname.
I think it is. Yeah Yeah, I don't know.
Well track it guys.
We'll track it but I don't track a first time.
I call him D Angela I think we need to go on a double date now with Ryan Kelly Pam and Alan so cringy Jenna scene was so awkward to watch yes Kelly is force -feeding Ryan some french fries with ketchup she insists that he loves it he loves ketchup he loves it and then Alan I mean Alan is just kind of cheesy Jenna he's just oh my gosh oh yes well Robert told me that his favorite Alan line is people always say don't be edgy, but I don't know any other way.
He was like it was so pretentious, it said it's such great comic writing.
He also told me that he still gets recognized as the Freedom Fries guy.
And he's very grateful.
Is that what people call him?
Do people call him the Freedom Fries guy?
Freedom Fries guy, hey you're the Freedom Fries guy from the office.
And he also told me this really sweet story he said after we were done shooting.
Mindy walked him out and just went on and on about how grateful she was to him for being on the show.
And then she told him that while Allison was putting people on tape, because that's what she would do.
Alison would hold auditions for parts and put people on tape.
They had this idea that they might want to cast an SNL cast member in this role.
And I'm not going to say who.
But Mindy said we watched the tapes that Allison sent over and you were so funny that we ended up giving you the role instead of offering it to this SNL cast member and Robert said it is still to this day, he wears that as like a bad, bad honor.
Yeah, he was like I can brag that I beat out an SNL cast member for a part on the office.
So he was so sweet and so humble and so grateful and so excited to talk about this.
Such a nice guy. He's great!
All right, well, speaking of our lives crisscrossing with these guest stars, at 16 minutes, 37 seconds, Jenna, Michael gets the first guest to his party who doesn't stick around because no one's there and he's like awkward, but it's played by Steve Little.
I noticed! I love Steve Little!
Well, you guys know he played Uncle Jim in the show I did on Netflix called Haters Back Off.
It's based off Miranda Sings, based off that character with Colleen Ballinger and Eric Stocklin and Francesca Riale, and Steve Little and I have maybe one of the most awkward romances, even more awkward than Dwight and Angela.
You guys, I mean, we have a date in a bathtub.
You think that a romance can't get weirder than Dwight and Angela until you watch Haters Back Off and see you and Steve Little, for sure, 100 percent.
That man could read the phone book and I'd be cracking up.
I'd be laughing so hard. He can, he is so funny.
Just everything that comes out of his mouth made me laugh.
And we got to improvise a lot together and really create this creepy relationship.
And I just love him.
I am a huge, huge Steve Little fan.
Well, I worked with them on Haters Back Off but a lot of people knew him from Eastbound and Down, as well as many other things, he's just a really great comedic actor.
Well, so, you know, Pam's date did not go great.
She says Alan was a bit of a dud, right?
Yeah, it was not a love connection, she says.
She says she'll know it when she likes someone again.
Cause she already likes that person.
She does. Then Jim gets off the elevator and discovers Michael is alone in his room with a strobe light and some dance music.
Really loud music. Like loud.
I couldn't believe no one called and complained on him.
The music was so loud.
I know I'm 100, but I was like, that's very loud.
Well, Michael is really grouchy.
We don't see Michael like this a lot.
He's being super passive aggressive.
It's Michael Sass. It's Michael Sasse, but I have a little bit of backstory guys.
If you watch the deleted scenes, remember how we said there's some of the Dwight Angela stuff that plays out that got cut?
Yeah. So you actually see Dwight is checking his watch. He's got to get to Angela in the room and he makes up a lame excuse and he leaves Michael alone in his hotel room.
And Michael's grumpy about that.
He is grumpy because he feels like Jim has ditched him for Josh Porter.
So there's a lot happening here.
Michael feels kinda like his friends have abandoned him.
This is also where Jim finally tells Michael, I did not leave because of you, Michael.
You were a great boss.
I left because of Pam.
And Michael's kind of like, you did?
That's crazy because Pam's single now.
You can come back. Well, I also think, I think he wants Jim to know that, but he's also instantly relieved that it wasn't because of him and that his friend is still his friend.
And Jim, once again, is sharing something incredibly personal with Michael.
I know, because Jim says, listen, man, I put it on the line for Pam twice, and I got rejected twice, I'm not gonna call her, I don't know.
And I think he has a good point.
Like he made his feelings clear, he smooched her in the office, she knows how he feels, If she's not calling him.
Yes! He said, I love you.
The ball is in her court.
A hundred percent. I totally get how he's like, if she called off the wedding and she didn't phone me, what am I supposed to do with that?
I'm gonna go be like, hey did you call off the wedding now?
Can I have a chance?
No. Jim's playing this right.
In my opinion. So then at the end the Hammer Mill reps show up for the party.
This is so exciting.
They have two guests, and Michael tells them that he and Jim are best friends.
So it ends up being a win for Michael because he gets his friend back.
He makes a huge sale with Hammer Mill.
Jan ultimately is impressed with Michael as a salesman.
He's not number two behind Josh Porter, so Michael has a nice ending here.
He does. He goes through a lot of this convention, but in the end he wins and we've got a very funny tag at the end of this episode.
Michael and Dwight are in the hotel room.
They turn off the lights because they're going to turn on a black light because it's a party.
I guess for their party, yeah, yes, and there are just these splatters all over the room.
And Dwight says, well, it's either blood, urine or semen.
And I love Michael's line.
He says, God, I hope it's urine.
I hope it's urine. When do you ever hope it's urine?
I think in that situation.
This was a really fun episode.
I had such a great time doing it.
It was so fun to rewatch it again.
I just remember laughing a lot.
And that was a real joy for me this week.
I hope you guys enjoyed it.
I want to give a big shout -out and a big thanks to Kent Sobornak, for his Kentopedia Facts, and also to Robert Bagnell for all his fun stories.
You guys, you can follow Robert Bagnell on his Instagram at bobby underscore bagsta gram.
It's like Instagram, but it's bags to gram.
Or you can find him on YouTube.
He's got this amazing travel show called Travel Bags.
He spent like the last five years traveling mostly through Southeast Asia and he's been documenting his travels, he's turned them into these very watchable, fun, very addictive videos.
I highly recommend.
Anyway big thanks to those guys and we'll see you next week for The Coop.
Thank you for listening to Office Ladies' Second Drink.
This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.
Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.
Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins and our audio engineer and associate producer is Daniela Silva.
Odyssey's executive producers are Jenna Wise -Berman and Leah Rees -Dennis.
Office Ladies is mixed and mastered by Chris Basil.
Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.
