Hello, this is Jerry Hulkins of Penny Arcade fame.
Listen, we very recently released the fall of Penny Arcade comic compilation.
It's our 10th book.
It includes writer's commentary, that's me, on every comic from the year 2009, which is also kind of a big year for us.
That was when we put out Automata and the Irewood first, something to consider.
We got guest comics in there from Bill Amond and my good friend Chris Straub.
That isn't to say that Bill Amond isn't also my friend.
Bill, if you're hearing this, I love you as well.
You're both great. That's what I'm trying to say.
In any case, the book is also very good.
It's something that you might consider checking out at store .penny -arcade .com.
It's your boy. It's the DLC.
Coming at you. I don't know.
It's too early. Yeah, it is.
I find that it is always too early, no matter what time it is.
I went to bed at 10 o 'clock last night.
That was pretty early for me.
Do you have a disease?
I was just tired. Were you tired of all this horse shit?
I think it was the heat.
It was very hot yesterday.
Well, how can I help you?
We need to write a strip.
Well, that's true. Man, I wonder how Battle Chasers is on Switch. It's downloading now.
Oh, really? Uh -huh.
Oh, that's savory. That's what I need.
Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah.
I see a lot of Nightmare review out on Switch today, but it's like, I don't know if they're talking specifically about the Switch version.
That's what I want.
Right. I want them to tell me about the Switch. Man, I had such a good time when we were playing that.
Oh, yeah. On the Strim.
Holy shit. Well, and I was playing it right when it first came out on PS4.
I don't even think you were playing it right.
Thanks. You know what I mean?
All right, sure. But anyway, there was some technical issues and I had a couple crashes and so I stopped playing it.
Well, yeah, exactly.
Like that's the thing that early on, especially sort of like it's more indie.
Oh, yeah. Right? It was funded on Kickstarter, right?
I mean, it's going to be, like there's going to be aspects of that stuff that are going to be challenging.
I usually like to wait a couple months before, but there's no way to wait for that one.
No, I had to play it right away.
But anyway, so I stopped playing it and just figured I'll pick it up again and play it, comes out on the Switch. I'm excited to dive back in there.
Oh man, I've got to close this.
I've got to close it.
I can't look at this intro video.
I just want to have it.
I just want it to be real.
So we... You know who did that intro video?
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Powerhouse. Yep. Old Powerhouse.
We are saying old Powerhouse.
Is there another one in there?
Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
I have no idea what we were talking about.
Oh, there's a lot to sign in here.
Yeah, there is. I think we have another 500, maybe 600 automata scripts.
I'm going to have some time today.
I'll be watching Acquisitions Intoxicated and signing.
Oh, see, that's going to provide you with real comfort.
Yeah. My dad's going to come in today and drink some of your beer.
Today? Well, hopefully we've got something of ours to tap, If not, he can try a little cup of something I brought from home.
Something I brought up from Russian River.
He can try that blind pig.
That'll learn him. I don't know what any of that means.
Russian River is a brewery and blind pig is a drink.
Got it. I mean, I'm good at context clues.
Well, yeah, yeah. Let's see.
Streep. Streep. Meryl Streep.
We just got on this magician's thing.
And there was a period of time where we had envisioned a framework for determining, in the manner of hot or not, a framework for determining quality, relative quality.
And the two categories that we asserted in that original argument were plumps and chumps.
Now, chumps, that makes sense.
I think we know that that's bad.
Nobody wants to be a chumps But if you're like hey That skateboard is plumps That's ambiguous I feel like it's deeply ambiguous I mean you only know that it's Supposed to be the golden Because you know about chumps Again context clues right If you say hey skateboards are for plumps Rollerblades are for chumps Yeah You know everything you need to know I was just gonna say that's just unfolded for me now i've got all the data someday that'll happen we're gonna make it happen we just need to start using it in conversation yeah agreed all right so that may not give us the the content we need though
probably not that's my suspicion um let's see well what's what's going what do we feel good about i mean honestly like i'm looking at the those who are listening on the podcast i'm just just going to give you a sense of my visual field, it is completely full of boxes that either have things to sign or are emptied of things that have been signed on the ground or have additional things in them that all need to be managed.
I would describe that as distinct from my ordinary tasks, which also require completion.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out getting all all these done this week?
I don't think it's impossible.
I think that we have to, just like we did for the Blu -rays for Automata, I think that we have to have, like, we have to get a groove.
Yeah. We have to get a good documentary about an obscure topic that still has a lot of heart.
And then we put it right on there and then we get at it.
Yeah. We get at it.
But then on Thursday, of course, then we've got even more signing, if you can believe it.
Even more signing. for the thorn watch so that'll be different I feel like that'll be different from I think so that's in the hundreds I don't think it's in the yeah yeah and they're also been it's there and they're physically large too yeah and independent yeah right all right so let's let's comic strip let's figure out the flavor did anything hilarious happen during your wine tasting vacation no I I would say no. It operated more or less according to plan.
But that's because Ryan was in charge of it.
Having the director of events for PAX invite you on a vacation he has planned is really pretty amazing.
Yeah, I bet. Imagine that you got in line for a Disneyland ride, and then the ride went through California wine country for three days.
And then you got off.
That's what happened.
Wow. It was crazy. I don't even know anything about wine.
I'm just fucking give it.
Yeah. Give it to me.
Put it in the air. That red, great.
You don't mind drinking it, though?
No. Yeah. No. Because I'm trying to figure it out.
Like, it's very, very complicated.
And there's a range of beers called Sours.
I heard you guys talking about those on the last show.
It sounds crazy. Yeah.
I don't want to drink anything that looks like it has spider webs on it at any point.
Yeah. It's a whole thing.
But, I mean, it's very, there's some overlaps at that tier of brewing and winemaking on the sour side in terms of flavor profile.
And in some cases, in terms of the spontaneous fermentation, you don't necessarily have to inoculate it.
It just gets fucked up by something.
And you drink that.
Yeah, and you squeeze it out.
You squeeze it out.
But I didn't know about caves.
Like, they keep, they have, a lot of these places have caves.
Like, man -made caverns.
Man -made caves? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, to keep the wine in or something?
To store it, yeah. Oh, interesting.
Because it's super consistent.
Like, the temperature underground is very consistent, it turns out.
Huh. It was ballin'.
Yeah, I bet. Yeah, but the idea that you would go on a wine -tasting vacation and not remember it, I guess, is on brand.
Yeah, that's true. Man, I gotta get a hold of this Beat Saber.
What? Have you seen it?
I didn't know what you were talking about.
Beat Saber. Hello, this is Jerry Holkins of Penny Arcade fame.
Listen, we very recently released the Fall of Penny Arcade comic compilation.
It's our 10th book.
It includes writer's commentary, that's me, on every comic from the year 2009, which is also kind of a big year for us.
That was when we put out Automata and the Irewood first, something to consider.
We got guest comics in there from Bill Amond and my good friend Chris Straub.
That isn't to say that Bill Amond isn't also my friend.
Bill, if you're hearing this, I love you as well.
you're both great that's what I'm trying to say in any case the book is also very good it's something that you might consider checking out at store .penny -arcade .com it's your boy it's the DLC coming at you I don't know it's too early I find that it is always too early no matter what time it is it went to about 10 o 'clock last night that was pretty early for me Do you have a disease?
I was just tired. Were you tired of all this horseshit?
I think it was the heat.
It was very hot yesterday.
Well, how can I help you?
We need to ride a strip.
Well, that's true. Man, I wonder how Battle Chasers is on Switch. It's downloading now.
Oh, really? Uh -huh.
Oh, that's savory. That's what I need.
Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, I see a lot of Nightware review out on Switch today, day but it's like i don't know if they're talking specifically about the switch version that's what i want right i want them to tell me about the switch man i had such a good time when we were playing that oh yeah on the stream holy shit well and i was playing it right when it first came out on ps4 i don't even think you were playing it right thanks you know what i mean all right sure uh but anyway i there were some technical issues and i had a couple crashes and and so I stopped playing it.
Well, yeah, exactly.
Like, that's the thing that early on, especially sort of, like, it's more indie.
Oh, yeah. Right? It was funded on Kickstarter, right?
I mean, it's going to be, like, there's going to be aspects of that stuff that are going to be challenging.
I usually like to wait a couple months before, but there's no way to wait for that one.
No, I had to play it right away.
But anyway, so I stopped playing it and just figured I'll pick it up again and play it when it comes out on the Switch. So I'm excited to dive back in there.
Oh, man. Man, I gotta close this.
I gotta close it. I can't look at this intro video.
I just want to have it.
I just want it to be real.
You know who did that intro video?
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Powerhouse. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.
Old Powerhouse. Old Powerhouse.
We are saying old Powerhouse.
Is there another one in there?
Oh, yeah, sure. I have no idea what we were talking about.
Oh, there's a lot to sign in here.
Yeah, there is. I think we have another five, maybe 600 automata scripts.
I'm going to have some time today.
I'll be watching Acquisitions Intoxicated and signing.
Oh, see, that's going to provide you with real comfort.
Yeah. My dad's going to come in today and drink some of your beer.
Today? Well, hopefully we got something of ours to tap.
If not, he can try a little cup of something I brought from home.
Something I brought up from Russian River.
He can try that blind pig.
That'll learn him. I don't know what any of that means.
Russian River is a brewery and blind pig is a drink.
Got it. I mean, I'm good at context clues.
Well, yeah, yeah. Let's see.
Streep. Streep. Meryl Streep.
Okay, so we just got on this magician's thing.
and we there was a period of time where we had envisioned a framework for determining in the matter of hot or not uh -huh a framework for determining quality relative quality and then the two categories that we that we asserted in that original argument yeah we're plumps Uh -huh.
And chumps. Chumps, yeah.
Now, chumps, that makes sense.
I think we know that that's bad.
Nobody wants to be a chumps.
No. But if you're like, hey, that skateboard is plumps, that's ambiguous.
I feel like it's deeply ambiguous.
I mean, you only know that it's supposed to be the golden because you know about chumps.
Again, context clues, right?
If you say, hey, skateboards are for plumps, rollerblades are for chumps.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know everything you need to know.
I was just going to say that's just unfolded for me now.
I've got all the data.
Someday that will happen.
We're going to make it happen.
We just need to start using it in conversation.
Yeah. Agreed. All right.
So that may not give us the content we need, though.
Probably not. That's my suspicion.
Let's see. well, what's, what's going on?
What do we feel good about?
I mean, honestly, like I'm looking at the, those who are listening on the podcast, I'm just going to give you a sense of my visual field.
It is completely full of boxes that either have things to sign or are emptied of things that have been signed on the ground or have additional things in them that all need to be managed.
That is, I would describe that as distinct from my ordinary tasks, which also require completion.
and then yeah i was trying to figure out like getting all these done this week i no i don't think it's impossible yes i think that we have to just like we did for the um the blu -rays for automata i think that we have to have like we have to get a groove yeah we have to get a uh a good documentary about a obscure topic right that still has a lot of heart and then we put it right on there and then we get at it yeah we get at it um but then on thursday of course Of course, then we've got even more signing, if you can believe it.
Even more signing. For the Thorn Watch. So that'll be different.
I feel like that'll be different from this.
I think so. And that's in the hundreds.
I don't think it's in the thousands.
Yeah, yeah. And they're physically large, too.
Yeah. And independent.
Yeah. Right? Personal abuse.
No, thank you. And the only constant is your...
Now I see you chatting with him on Twitter.
Now I see you chatting with him on the Tweeter.
No, now you're fucking chatting with him on the tweeter.
And the only constant has been your fascination, borderline worship.
But I'm going to have to go look up Madeira, Maderera.
Yeah, I don't know how you spell it.
M -A -D. There's a U.
I don't even know how you say it.
It's M -A -D -U. I think everybody just calls him Joe Mad.
Yeah, even him. Even him, yeah.
Maderera. There's a surprising U.
Yeah. Every time I see that U, it's like a ghost. Yeah, like what?
There's a U in there.
bordering on worship for Joe Madera, who is called Joe Mad.
Now I see you chatting with him on the tweeter.
Fucking chatting with him on the tweeter.
Yeah, exactly. Joe Madera, who is called by the elves.
Who is known by the elves and the elvish tongue.
Who is known by elf kind.
And now you're fucking chatting with him on the tweeter.
Yeah. What are you guys talking about?
It's just, you know.
I like the idea that it was like, Like, you know, is that a big deal?
Imagine if you were making music with that guy from Tool.
Okay, you were talking about...
What's the guy's name?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Mater James Keenan.
Mater James Keenan?
Yeah, let's see. How does that feel?
I don't know how it would feel if you were making music with that dude from Tool.
The dude from Tool is named Mater James Keenan.
Keenan, and he also has a successful winery.
Does he really? Oh, yeah.
But that's the funny part.
It's like a joke you would write.
Yeah. I mean, how does that, I mean, how does that, how does it feel?
How does it feel? To tweet a god.
To tweet, you know, to, to know someone who was so formative.
No, Tycho would say to tweet a god.
To tweet a god. And I'm keeping it.
You tried. You tried to slide out of my DMs. Well, no, I'm trying to figure, I'm.
You don't know about it?
No. Get a load of it.
it so you know how in uh like a rock band type thing the notes come down and then you push the button on the guitar or you put your hold down this drum and then you you hold down the fret and then you strum the little bar wong wong so imagine instead that the notes are coming down actually you know what it's like a combination of of dance dance revolution and rock band so i guess I guess Rock Band is already a version of Dance Dance Revolution with a different input mode.
But here, let me start over.
Imagine that a computer and a bird. Fuck a man.
The symbols come toward you.
This is in VR. Let's keep that in mind.
The symbols that you need to do the inputs for are coming toward you.
But they have a color and an arrow.
and in your hand are two lightsabers of each, one of each color right, and so when they come you have to slash through them slash up in that color or down or both down, left and right it looks fun as hell like I have to get I have to get it, like I've been watching it and certainly you know how sometimes like when a game catches on, certainly in streaming or online like there's usually going to be like best of type clips like Like, watching really great people play it is pretty inspiring, but I don't have to play it that well in order to enjoy it as much as I'm gonna.
Yeah, that sounds pretty fun.
I love rhythm shit, and lightsabers work really well in VR as an input type.
All right, so is it an opportunity where now you get to— it's like, now that it's out on Switch, you can play again for Nightwar?
Yeah, maybe. Because you sort of, like, went into rest. Hibernation, yeah.
Rest mode. I mean, honestly A huge part of it too for me Is the fact that I'm just now Tweeting back and forth with Joe Madd, who's one of my Childhood fucking heroes Did you do it again?
Yeah, I've tweeted him a couple times Well, I follow you, but I haven't seen his tweets We DM each other, dude Wow Dude, he slid into your DMs He's welcome to slide into my DMs Anytime time but yeah it's like i don't know like if you were making music with the guy from tool now whatever right like yeah that's maynard james keenan all right whatever i don't i just i'm trying to think back when i was into him what you were into right no dude i feel like this i feel like this is the right thing i feel like the idea that you like you're talking was like yeah i haven't seen any of these conversations
yeah i follow you and i haven't seen any of these conversations unfortunately i follow you unfortunately unfortunately i haven't seen any of these conversations we hit each other we hit each other in the dms yeah i think that's i think this is a good thing um it can yeah it can either be about that or it can be about having waited for it or it can just be about it can be literally about joe mad worship like i don't even care like that's been true forever like as long as i have known you yeah which is at this point a long fucking time yeah you have like it's it's a respect it's like still it's
like steven silver yeah right he is one of my greats on my list up there you know how it's like it goes biggie tupac jay -z and then and then me and then me right but but what happens if if you're not on this list yeah i'm not on the list i'm nowhere near my list no that that opportunity would the opportunity there was to say that shit does not offend me oh but okay fine i was trying to think reality i'm not on my list oh hell no yeah no no what's funny is eminem is on his own he's on his own list yeah i think i think that's the distinction it's like when i was watching that um rapture documentary
some of those are interesting yeah but some of them are also like wow i'm not anywhere near as driven as you i i just want to do some cool stuff with my friends and go home yeah like i don't i I don't know about some of that stuff.
But yeah, that's it.
They're on their own lists.
I am competing for your attention.
I don't... That's the only...
That's the target market.
Because it takes a lot to impress you.
It's a fun challenge.
You know what I mean?
The idea that it's just like, I want to be known as one of the greatest entertainers of all time.
It's like, well, that sounds hard. I don't think I'm going to do that.
I wanted to bring your boy's name up every debate.
yeah exactly it's like no I don't feel anything like that that's I would say that in many ways that's the opposite of what I'm looking for I want to be left alone primarily but I still want to be able to afford rent yeah yeah yeah exactly it's like it's like if you if you want to be the president no one should ever let you no one should let you do it and I think it's the same here you gotta be a psychopath you want it too much yeah you're willing to do too much to get it yeah oh that's got a sick flavor I'm just coughing I guess Um But yeah If you were like If Tycho was like Man I've known you
for 20 years And you've been a fan of Of Joe Mad The entire time And the only constant And the only constant Is your fascination Yeah Your idolization No it was a fascination Bordering on worship And now I see you Fucking tweeting at this guy Now he's sliding into your DMs?
Now he's sliding into your DMs. That means a specific thing.
It really does. I don't know if we can do that.
But it's just such a fun thing to say.
Yeah. I wouldn't, honestly, I don't even know how to slide into someone's DMs. Like, if they don't follow you, you can't DM them, right?
Well, it depends on how they have it set.
Oh. Like, I mean, I have mine set so that people can't slide in.
Right. Not that anyone would.
I'm not saying, you know, hey, these are some great DMs. you want to slide into these yeah exactly is there available no i mean i don't even honestly like i've changed uh clients so many times for twitter like i don't even know where i would go to change i don't know how that works yeah no i i'd use it to post dumb like dumb ideas i definitely don't use it to allow an avenue of of personal abuse no thank you uh and the only the only only constant is your...
Now I see you chatting with him on Twitter.
Now I see you chatting with him on the tweeter.
Now you're fucking chatting with him on the tweeter.
And the only constant has been your fascination.
Border on worship. But I'm going to have to go look up Madeira.
Maderera. Yeah I don't know how you spell it.
M -A -D There's a U. I don't even know how you say it.
That's why I think everybody calls him Joe Mad.
Yeah. Even him. Even him.
Yeah Mad era There's a surprising you Yeah Every time I see that you It's like a It's like a ghost Yeah like what What are you in there Bordering on Worship For Joe Madera Who is called Joe Mad I see you Chatting with him on the twitter Fucking chatting with him on the twitter Yeah exactly Joe Madera Who is called by the elves Who is known by the elves And the elvish tongue No who is known by elf kind and now you're fucking chatting with him on the tweeter yeah what do you guys talk about it's just you know i see i like the idea that it was like um you know is that is that a big deal or is i think
imagine if you were making music with that guy from tool okay you were talking about what's the guy's name oh yeah yeah mater james keenan mater james keenan yeah let's see how does that feel i don't know how it would feel if you were making music with that dude from tool the dude from tool is named mainly keenan and he also has a successful winery does he really oh yeah but that's the funny part is it's like a joke you would write yeah i mean how does that i mean how does that how does it feel to tweet a god To tweet, you know, to know someone who was so formative...
No, Tycho would say to tweet a god.
To tweet a god. I'm keeping it.
You tried. You tried to slide out of my DMs. Well, no, I'm trying to figure...
I wonder if, because I'm trying to compare him to Tool...
Leave my DMs alone.
I'm not going to fuck with your DMs. You know, is there an idea in there that this was someone who was, you know, at that period of time...
Oh, no. The idea is contained entirely in Gabe's response.
Okay. Well, imagine if you were.
It's all in there. Okay.
Imagine if you were like— What if that dude from Tool sent you a Facebook message?
I don't know how it would feel if it showed up on your Facebook.
Imagine if you were like talking to the guy from Tool, the Tool guy.
The Tool guy. Tim the Tool Man.
I don't mean Tim. Not Tim the Tool Man Taylor.
The Tool guy. I don't mean like Tim the Tool Man Taylor I would say Tim Allen is the Tool Guy you were talking about no Tim Allen is the Tool Guy you were talking about exactly hear me devil Tim Allen is the Tool Guy you were talking about the musical genius an award winning vintner because that's what he is Tim Allen hear me devil Tim Allen is the fucking Tool Guy you were talking about speaking of you were speaking award winning vintner and musician now I need to make very clear very sure I'm not gonna update this fucking computer Microsoft you know what it's not gonna happen I don't know what's
gonna happen I don't know what's gonna happen wow you're living on the edge yeah I can't help myself from falling but I need to if we're gonna do this joke I need to make absolutely sure of course I spelled it correctly exactly that was never that was never really in uh it was worth checking though yeah here we go i gotta make sure that i yeah instruments occupations yeah winemaker is a winemaker different from a vintner you're asking the wrong guy well i suspect a vintner is maybe the person who ah yeah yeah we use it as a wine as a winemaker in the u .s all right you are speaking of or you speak
of you speak of yeah you speaking of that's the sort of thing i would leave in Here, I've known you for 20 years And the only constant Has been your fascination Bordering on worship For Joe Madera Who is known by all kinds as Joe Mad And now you're fucking chatting with him on the tweeter I mean, how does it feel To tweet a god Well, imagine if you were like Talking to the tool guy Hear me devil Tim Allen is the fucking tool guy You speak of award winning Vintner and musician Maynard James Keenan no that turned out good hello this is jerry holkins aka omen drawn ceo of acquisitions incorporated
and also the dungeon master for acquisitions incorporated the c -team which is a program you might enjoy if you like the other things that we do it comes up on twitch every wednesday at 4 p .m pacific time that's available in podcast on youtube penny arcade tv and directly the Twitch VODs.
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