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Well, no, I mean, it's like hanging.
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yeah i feel like labos labo and guard of war i think labo is probably pretty solid well yeah comic well especially since in both of our homes it basically ran it all weekend it did yeah um man i'll tell you like it's not i mean technically speaking it's not a part of the game or the experience or maybe it is maybe it's like a meta thing but sometimes if you're playing like like if you're some kind of fishing savant like Bronya, she's got some...
I mean, I'll just call it like it is.
She's got some troubling techniques.
Hacks? Functionally, yeah.
I think they're hacks because sometimes the cable gets wound up inside the spool in a way that I didn't see when we were using it here.
Yeah, I haven't had that.
Yeah, so I don't know what her dark machinations are with this spool.
But it was just like, Dad, it's stuck.
And I'm like, huh, well, let's take a look.
I just open up a cardboard flap and then pull it down.
And I'm like, what's going on in there?
And she's like, oh, it's kind of caught.
It's kind of caught on the left side.
I was like, well, how are we going to fix this?
We made it. We should be able to fix it, right?
And she's like, yeah.
Yeah, so we like wind it out a little bit, and then it has the rubber band, so if you don't hold on to it, it like rolls back up.
So troubleshooting this toy.
Pretty easy. Well, really easy, but also part of the fun because you did make it, and so you know how to fix it.
You actually know how to fix it, right?
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just, I'm incredibly impressed.
Yeah. I can't believe what they did.
It's so smart and so different.
It is. It is. I was talking about it in the post. It's like, because it's always sort of like, oh, you know, Nintendo doesn't have really the power.
Yeah. This generation.
Yeah. They always make underpowered hardware.
Yeah. And it's like, well, hmm.
All the amazing retro -inspired indie stuff that I play runs pretty well on there.
Yeah, you know what I'm playing right now that I've never played?
even though it's been out forever shovel night shovel night is fucking sick it's great but you don't need an xbox no to play shovel night people do people do play it on there did you play fucking king of cards no but i saw it there and that's what made me think like oh they're coming with a card game for this that's crazy no it is the king of cards like the card game yeah i was there I waited in line three or four times, and then I always had to go somewhere.
So I finally had a chance to go back and play it.
It's not a card game.
It's not? No, that's just the mini game.
It's a full fucking Shovel Knight game.
Oh, it's a new Shovel Knight game that has a card game component?
Yes! Wow. Yeah, I saw it there, and I was like, this looks really cool, but I don't know anything about Shovel Knight.
And so I was like, okay, I'll grab Shovel Knight.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's called King of Cards.
Yeah. The demo that was at the show mostly focused on those car battles, which are sick by the by.
It's very, very original mechanics.
But yeah, I just couldn't...
That's not even what it is.
It's a whole fucking entry in the series.
Yeah, my folks were over because my dad was helping me get rid of this rat corpse.
Rat corpse? Rat corpse.
Yeah, and the kids were showing him the Labo stuff, and my dad could not believe it.
How could you? He was just blown away because Gabe opens up that backpack that he built, and all of those strings are connected to these pulleys that have like – Is it similar to the spool for the fishing line?
No, it's like a string that you – because when you punch with that, the robot punches.
It pulls, yeah. So what's actually happening is that that string is going into the backpack, pack and it's lifting up like a pulley that is connected to a block and a lot of the cardboard there's a bit of reflective tape on it yeah so there's a camera that watches those go up and the blue controller i think has the camera yeah but it's crazy because a lot of the cardboard that came in that kit you just fold back and forth back and forth and it's weight because these pulleys have weight to them right so like when you punch you feel it go up and then you let it go down it goes thunk right like wow
yeah yeah that's i mean that's toy con o2 i don't have that i only have toy con one i'll tell you that's the that is the thing i'm most excited about it's like for me like the thing that gets me cranked up about something especially a new idea like this is like it's it's always the stuff that's around it it's the stuff that to me implies that thought and care were involved in its manufacture so for me a lot of times it'll be about how ui looks Like how things feel and generally speaking you don't have games that have great ui and are Ui is like one of the things that happens later, right?
If it's got a good ui.
Yeah, then It's a proxy for these other characteristics that we like.
Yeah, and when I see that o1 and o2 I'm, just like I just I want that.
I just want to I want to know what the iteration is What does it look like?
You know already people have started posting some stuff that like people are making themselves with the garage With the garage, yeah.
Jesus. I can't imagine, like, what the next Nintendo official thing is gonna be.
I'm really excited.
Yeah. But, yeah, Gabe was saying it this weekend.
He's like, can we sign up for a monthly Labo kit?
You could. Like, this is the funniest thing about this, right?
Yeah. This right here.
This shit would be another company's whole company.
Yeah. Well, they, you know, like, we just stopped getting these kits they had.
They were getting, like, a science crate every month.
And eventually, we've talked about this.
The science stuff that kids get these days is garbage.
A lot of it is not great.
A lot of it is not great.
And so finally we just canceled the kits, but these have really filled that role.
Yeah, I mean they could.
I mean they'd have to orient the company toward it.
Yeah. Especially when there's a lot of software components and things like that.
They could. But they could.
I mean they know how.
Yeah. But yeah, even if it's quarterly.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out.
I mean it can't be like a normal game release is like every year or something.
like they can't do that like they need to have more of these than once a year oh definitely but i mean a quarterly thing or bimonthly even yeah all all legitimate especially if it's especially if it's like oh this you know this month has got the fishing update right you know what i mean and they they go in and add oh i hadn't even thought of that going back and updating yeah there's no reason they can't no absolutely not it's because that fishing game its bones are very good yeah yeah right there's enough there to build on easily right it's just it's shocking how much like how much engagement
they were able to derive from my kids like yeah Elliot and Ronia could not be more different it creates a lot of problems at my house yeah right but it's like they're both sort of half in like Elliot really likes to make this stuff and after he tests it and sees if it it works he's probably done and she wants to play exactly yeah right and so it's like she built the has she done the playhouse yet no no i said i said that um i said that brenna and ronia should should build the playhouse together just yeah kira built the playhouse sunday and it's really cool well yeah so what kind of shit can you
do with it so you put the um the switch in there and it's sort of like represents it shows you the interior of the house like a little room yeah and then you little fuzzy guy in there yeah that little dude lives in there and you have these plugs like screws that you build and you plug one into the side and it looks like a little faucet and you turn it and it fills the room with water and all this stuff happens and then you pull it out and it drains right there's one you put in this is like a fan like they're basically little toys to play with that you just mess with your but that's another thing
that you could expand indefinitely oh absolutely you know yeah um but yeah ronnie wanted to make it with me but But I would really like it.
I just think Brenna would enjoy it.
The craft part of it, I think she would really dig.
Yeah, because it feels good.
Like, this cardboard is not thick.
It is, like, the perfect weight and texture.
How long did they work on that?
Just to get the right cardboard. Right.
How long did they just work on the right stuff?
But it must have been so easy to, like, the prototyping.
Yeah. That must have been fun as hell.
Yeah. So smart. Yeah, it really, really is.
And then once they had the system to make those really, really great instructions, you're off to the races.
And there's a lot of humanity in their writing.
It's very clever. It's wild.
Again, nobody else.
Nobody else. Nobody else.
Right? Yeah. This would be a company's whole thing, and it would be worse.
Yeah. They would not do it as well.
But, no, I mean, the obvious Labo one is, like, other kits or sets.
There might be a concept that's good enough to, you know, elevate that basic concept.
Yeah. But we'd have to think about it.
Yeah, other kits, making your own stuff.
Oh, no, actually, now that I think about it, there's some pretty weird kits you could...
There's some pretty weird ideas there that are available.
um but uh yeah we were we were drawn way in and i i'm positive that there is a strip waiting around in there for us yeah i think what the angle is could also be something that happens with one of the existing games yeah i think there might be some hidden depths to that fishing game after watching ron you play it hidden depth oh after watching ron you play it for a while yeah i mean mean we started to get the hang of the not letting the line break yeah um i don't know beyond that if there's anything to like enticing the fish to bite it's got an actual full -sized electric vehicle yeah they can just
have it all just a car yeah basically you just you want you want instructions of that humanity and quality for everything you have to accomplish in life yeah why isn't everything in my world labo yeah i need more i just i need their help i need labo's help sometimes yeah it's like how can i fold my heart god didn't we do a what was this trip the only thing we couldn't build them was a cardboard heart oh that sounds like us yeah like gabe had built someone out of cardboard a card or tyco had i can't remember yeah that sounds right yeah i've that is ringing enough of a bell that i think we might have done
that yeah we did because i think his name was one because we've but we've had a couple different things where we have made something that we were bad parents to yeah that theme keeps coming up and for good reason oh yeah like that's in there let's rip from the headlines exactly uh yeah so that was a funny strip a cardboard heart.
Well, yeah, I mean, you should just go, you should do the inversion of the heart one.
Yeah. Like, Labo just starts getting used in all these other places.
Hospitals are making functional Labo heart replacements.
Yeah, exactly. Just go in there.
It takes five minutes.
I'm just looking at the instructions.
Yeah. Good news and bad news.
The bad news is your heart needs to be replaced.
The good news is we can build one with Nintendo Labo.
Yeah. Isn't it made out of cardboard?
The new Nintendo Labo human heart kit.
Yeah, but isn't that, I think it's, that's cardboard, though.
I feel like that's not.
That's very sturdy.
I feel like it's not the right material.
It says here between seven and eight weeks.
So I'm going to get started right now to build.
Got a lot of valves.
A lot of valves. You hang out there.
Yeah. We're going to have to put a switch in your chest. It's going to be like a Tony Stark thing.
Yeah. That's fine, right?
Everybody likes the Nintendo.
You can play Mario on it.
Not for too long, because you'll die.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Obviously, the charge is going to be a concern.
Yeah. Yeah. It's something, if Nintendo is able to recreate life.
Other things. Yeah, yeah.
Nintendo Labo newborn baby.
Child. Child. The Labo tiny positronic brain.
Yeah, it's just all cardboard. You have to fold each neuron.
Yeah. It takes a long time.
It takes a long time.
But they would have figured it out.
It would be like neuron tape or something.
You just put the tape on there.
Yeah, and then the Joy -Con watches the tape move.
Now you have a brain.
Now you're thinking person.
I mean, that's how it works.
God, they could redo Rob the Robot in Labo.
Damn near. Like I say, the second version of this, like the sequel or whatever, could have simple motors, like something like robotics or something like that.
It would be so easy.
It would be so fucking easy to do something that's just like one step more, one step beyond.
It's sort of like the way Ultron's face is scary.
scary like a labo person's face would be scary without meaning to you sell the cardboard angles to it the folds yeah and the stickers or whatever and it's like yeah how did the how did the joy -con go in there are you gonna have like are the eyes gonna be like offset yeah yeah those are the eyes right with the jaw yeah i mean i i like that i like like coming home and then there's this thing that is just like you're gone for a long time.
Yeah, the Labo. The Labo sort of Frankenstein's monster thing.
Yeah. Holy shit, you could make the easiest sets with CNC.
Oh, yeah. I was thinking about that machine that they have down there in the basement.
Yeah, the Glowforge.
You could make that shit easy.
Super easy. Laser cut all of it.
Yeah. It would be so easy.
All you do is take that fucking PDF because they have PDFs up for a bunch of the replacement parts.
Right. you would take that PDF.
You would bring it over to the Glowforge.
You'd stretch it out.
You'd identify the line.
The tricky part is getting the folds.
Like, they have all these straight creases built into all of them to fold along.
Yeah, but the way that the Glowforge does that honestly might be pretty close.
Yeah. Because the folds are a lighter line, like, on the interior structure of the printout.
Yeah. And what that tells the Glowforge is that it's a more shallow cut.
Right, so if it just sort of scores it.
A black line, exactly.
A black line means cut through.
Any gradient is just etching.
Depth, yeah. Like, it would be easy as pie.
Yeah. I got the new Nintendo Labo Thinking Human Kit.
Real Thinking Human Kit.
It's the being. Being.
The Labo Being. I'm working on this circulatory system right now.
Lots of folds. Lots of folds.
Lots of folds. Lots of folds.
Lots of folds. And a couple rubber bands.
Yeah, exactly. But it would be a situation where it's like, once you had part of it done, like the part that could speak, and it's just like watching the rest...
Ah! It's just like looking at the rest of its like partially constructed body.
Yeah. I feel like there's an opportunity there.
I got the labo conscious being kit.
I'm working on the...
What's that screaming?
I already built the brain.
In the mouth. In the mouth.
I worked ahead. I shouldn't...
I built the brain in the mouth first. I shouldn't have done that.
I shouldn't have done that.
That's on me. That's on me.
That's my fault. A lot of folds.
I'm working on the circular system right now.
A lot of folds. A couple rubber bands.
A lot of folds. A lot of folds.
A lot of folds. A lot of folds.
I do hear some screaming.
why do i why do i hear some screaming oh yeah i built the brain in the mouth first i kind of went out of order that's on me yeah see i do i do hear it's like i did i do hear some screaming screaming oh oh yeah yeah yeah kind of skipped around should there be a line should there be a line like should it should it should there be something like you can just be small small text yeah i mean from the other pile of cardboards or yeah yeah i just yeah i mean i i just I had to put him just in the fridge so I put him what am I what is this why all I know is pain is this what it means to exist yeah yeah
like that I do hear some screaming and then it's just screaming like that that oh yeah i built the brain in the mouth first i shouldn't have done that what am i is perfect if you see one more line about the the existential horror the crisis yeah what it has to be at least as good as what am i and if we can't if we can't come up with something then that's fine that's fair you know what i mean like let's think about it for a second here why am I what am I and why and why and why or he could just repeat what am I if he's just screaming what am I what am I what am I I don't want to be if this is life is this all
there is is this all there is no no no just I choose death I choose death Here we go.
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