Hello friends, welcome to episode 224 of the noclip podcast. It's a crew cast. Jesse is still in parts unknown, although we did actually talk about it on the podcast before we left, but you know, we'll just keep it mysterious here on the crew cast. In other parts unknown, Jeremy Jane, who knows where you are, liminally.
Yeah, it's still in still in the beta testing zone, still in the unreal default scene that loads up when you load up unreal um yeah chilling it's uh it got nice here it was snowing like a week ago and it was 80 degrees the other day and i ate pizza outside hell yeah you would you get those muggy summers those like those like sweaty good ones oh yeah it's brutally muggy out here that's the people say it's the cold that'll kill you in the northeast but it's the uh it's the humidity it's the mug yeah it's the mug i got uh brutally sunburned i'm not sure if you can see it because the this camera is terrible
on a good day and but i'm very red and i'm peeling today i got a burnt at the butter and eggs festival in petaluma which that's not real you made that up so ridiculous that's what you call your breakfast on a sunday morning when you over eat a little bit butter up that egg boy baking up that sausage uh frank harley you were not at the butter and eggs festival in petaluma you were enjoying uh copious amounts perhaps too much uh wrestling in sin city how are you doing when'd you get back uh i got back i got back saturday night oh my god your voice oh my voice is gone this is like day three day four
of being back i've like gone through lozenges i've been drinking tea 24 7 wow um yeah i have videos of me screaming and you can like hear my like throat getting torn um but no it it really was maybe one of the best weekends of my life i'm actually surprised i was able to have as much fun as i would in japan i was like like oh my god but i mean you know all the wrestlers came out here but yeah it really was one of the best weekends of my life i saw seven wrestling shows more than i would actually have gone to than if i was in japan um seven shows in like four days i met like so many of like my
favorite wrestlers that i've like idolized for like at least like like years and i don't know i'm just so content i'm so happy i'm already like oh some of these people are coming back to texas in july i don't know thinking japan again future but yeah i am i'm ecstatic and happy and then um you know games are getting dropped today uh there's a new like nine hour tim rogers film war yes so it's like i'm i'm happy it's lots of good stuff okay we're gonna we're gonna give you breaks in between your segments i think i'll ask you about the wrestling in a little bit uh jeremy yeah did you see that tim
rogers dropped a nine hour la noir video i did i thought about watching it live but uh i feel like whenever there's a tim rogers video i kind of watch it like a like a season of television you know yeah the intro is like 24 minutes long yeah it's ridiculous I watched the intro and then was like oh I gotta go to bed this is gonna be like fucking Game of Thrones I'll get through it eventually um but yeah and also presumably he got I did he get that footage back from when the stuff got stolen I think I heard or something I don't know like something crazy like that I don't know he got remember all
his stuff got stolen in oakland's his camera equipment so i if that went down i'm very curious like if a criminal was like listen i'm gonna keep all your shit but i'm a big fan of the channel didn't realize i went through the hard drive i saw the footage i i saw a comment people said like they got the footage back and someone commented like yeah the thieves saw tim rogers dressed up in 1940s clothes walking down streets and it's like we got to give this nerd his footage back i feel too bad like or conversely they were like he'll solve this case and we need to get ahead of it yeah they probably
saw what they had is like oh my god okay sure or maybe they just send them the memory card we robbed dick tracy we need to send this back i hope that it like i mean thematically it kind of works like if any if anyone can pull that into the video then i'm sure it is like a it must come up yeah in the last hour he goes with a gun to their to the front door of the thieves oh my god and it's and i was about to say the name of your friend it's we we so frequently almost say the name of the guy who broke into my house because it's an iconic name but i feel like yeah it's a double consonants that's all
if you meet jeremy in person maybe he'll tell you one day yeah it's like he's my he's my nemesis because my first i have jeremy jane and it's the double it's the elimination and he's sort of the inverse of that you know he is he's the who's a superhero that has an inverse superman bizarro thank you thank you that's the the reference i was looking for and did not have beautiful thank you frank um our oh i had a segue earlier fans of our channel if we just rewind that in there a minute ago our our battle pass holders including the wonderful yush duane the rock lobster anthony thomas nico passateri
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until i just told you that about an hour ago they just done put out that oblivion remaster they dropped it it's out i knew they were going to announce something i didn't realize they were going to do like uh and it's out now like they were on stage d3 type shit yeah i wonder if all these leaks just forced them to do this shit two months early like why would you do it now what what's it's it's a tuesday in friggin april i don't know why not yeah they should have dropped it on 420 that's my only hot exactly that's true i feel like the weather is appropriate it's spring i when i honestly when i think
of oblivion i do think of all the forests and just running out in the spring you know like you they're trying to trick you like no no ignore out real outside just as the weather is getting nice they're like fucking go back inside yeah yeah yeah i think the original oblivion came out in like november or something if i'm if i'm i might be crazy i might be crazy december 13th oh my god or october 17th is that right i'll tell you i came out in fall anyway but uh but yeah it's out they did like a 30 minute presentation uh kind of similar to their e3 stuff the same crowd who film all their e3 presentations
um this might be because bethesda don't do their own thing anymore more right because they're all bundled in with microsoft so maybe that's what it is maybe it's them getting out a little bit uh doing their own doing their own pre -3 i don't know um but yeah it's out they did a 30 minute uh or so video which was kind of sort of like a you know developer breakdown um you know the history of of oblivion and what's in the remaster and yada yada yada and uh and i have played about 45 minutes of it because i downloaded as quickly as possible it's it's 120 gigs or something it's a little bit bigger than oblivion was um
uh and uh i basically got through the dungeon as fast as i could um uh to watch uriel septon getting shanked patrick stewart rest in power uh giving me that amulet and getting out into the world and watching my frame rate drop um the second i did uh so what questions do you guys have i have look this this This podcast isn't going to be out for three days.
People are going to have been playing way more of this game.
I have the hottest of take.
It has literally been out for 90 minutes, and I've played 45.
What is your question about The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion Remastered?
How does, like, the color palette stuff look?
I saw, like, an early thing.
Yes. Is it, like, muted now?
Is it not as, like, saturated?
Like, that's the thing I'm curious about.
Yeah, so this, I think, is going to be something, the one thing maybe people are a little bit, hmm, about.
out so the the elder scrolls for oblivion had a very particular look and some of this had to do with the art style and some of it had to do with the sort of technical place we were at in 2007 or whatever on the xbox 360 so the first one of the things i really like about oblivion that i'm not so mad about with skyrim is skyrim has a much more muted color palette and oblivion is like is like a high well i don't know if it's high fantasy but it's it's it's it's colorful fantasy it had that become out of the tunnel big blue bursting sky you know what i mean like like sort of like wyoming sky you know
what i mean kansas sky big blue with like you know clouds in it and stuff um colorful lush green like it felt like you said it felt like spring felt like late spring spring, summer.
And yeah, when you come out of the tunnel, it feels like weirdly autumnal.
I'd say it's like kind of, you know, maybe it's more quote unquote realistic.
I'm not sure, but it, it definitely feels more, it has a different like vibe to it.
So whether, you know, art, art styles can do lots of things.
And I don't know, maybe the people making this, you know, know we had this come up with the uh was it the until dawn remaster was super like blue or something i forget or wasn't blue enough i forget it was something like that um this definitely has a from what i've seen so far and they all obviously showed off a bunch of footage in that video thing as well and it seemed pretty consistent um that uh yeah it's it doesn't have it didn't have that feeling to me now i i'm not gonna sit here and say that it's worse or better i i can't really say at the moment but i definitely that moment definitely
hit very different than than it did originally because yeah i i that's what i really like about that game morrowind is quite like diluted too you know which kind of i think works with the place and everything that's in that game it's a very particular vibe that's in morrowind um and it does for skyrim too i think skyrim is definitely more like northern hemisphere and you're getting like different you know the sort more Icelandic Norwegian kind of vibe to the mountains and all that stuff but um Cyril Cyril always felt like Cyril's wait is that the is that the word no that's the area isn't it isn't
Cyril the area Cyril is the area and then the imperial city I think is the city right Tamriel is the is the world right and Cyril area I think yeah um that always felt more more you know central european english french kind of you know vibe to it so yeah it definitely the color palette is definitely weird it's a weird situation with remakes and this is perhaps a surprisingly credulous position for someone like myself who fucking hates all remakes uh most of 90 of them but it's like it's damned if you do damned if you don't because if you're super faithful to the original source text there will be
people who are like oh you didn't try anything new you just like did a shot for shot remake of this uh and then if you try something new people would be like oh so you're not faithful to the original and you know what i mean like yeah i i also wonder if like the i wonder what this someone's gonna mod this right so someone's gonna like change all this filter on it exactly they're gonna do their their color grade on this uh on this game uh but like outside of that like the original oblivion also was doing like there was loads of like bloom and like hdr kind of looking you know or before hdr kind
of effects and stuff and like the bloom especially was so intense on on oblivion that like i don't know maybe maybe cleanly this stuff you know doesn't work as well like maybe the color palette just looked a bit ott with these big blue skies if you're trying to do like proper you know lighting and stuff with like my because this thing is I'm running this on medium like this this is if I could run the interior stuff on high when I was in the dungeon and it looks great like don't get me wrong the facial animation stuff looks great the enemies look great the fire effects like when I was walking through
my torch it looks it looks like the bee's knees and this was on like medium or high um but yeah you can clearly like this thing has been it's unreal engine right I'm pretty sure um and it's it's cranked up like it's it's i i suspect on full uh you know full beans this thing looks incredible um but uh but yeah it's it's definitely got a got a different look to it i will say it is funny to go into like the imperial city and there's like two people walking around because it's like they didn't change the game you know what i mean the game is very very fatal it has all the same voice actors you know
this i'm sure they've got like better sound in here and stuff although the i think the original 5 .1 i think a lot of xbox games did xbox 360 game um but i'm sure it has improved uh sound but yeah and obviously the graphics are more improved uh but there's like great little touches animations like when you collect you know uh mushrooms and and um herbs and stuff there's a nice little animation on them when you pick them up um it feels great the the i i don't think i've ever played oblivion on a pc i i mean i love that game i've played it multiple times but i always played around 360 and um it feels
really good on mouse and keyboard the combat feels good uh yeah like i'm definitely gonna play a lot of this in a year where like they there's already been too many first person rpgs and then they go and stick fucking oblivion back out like this seems just completely unfair at this stage i'm still trying to be kingman cum stalker to friggin i forget what else like i guess i technically didn't complete least adam fall yet even though i got to the end of it um i still have to play the uh what's the obsidian one i forget oh about about what is love and play more than six hours off it's just it's
ridiculous at this stage i can't believe they put a oblivion right after a vowed came out that seemed mean yeah that's salt in the wound um yeah yeah it's it's i don't know i i'm kind of curious about playing oblivion again i what you were saying about the way that it's sort sort of removes a lot of the sort of like trappings of the time i feel like it's like that's sort of like the holistic experience it's like reshooting a like a 1940s film noir and not putting pantyhose over the lens or something it's like you know like there are there are sort of like technical workarounds or something but the the low
fidelity -ness of it is sort of like part of the feel of oblivion to me so i don't know i i worry that it will feel like cleaned up in a way um the thing i was wondering this you probably did not encounter this in the 45 minutes you you played of it but um i wonder when you're making a remake like this oblivion is famous in many ways but perhaps the my most beloved aspect of oblivion is uh the weird 11 minute compilations of people showing the npcs acting in totally bizarre ways well where they'll like stand in lava and be like oh how's it going and then die immediately oh yeah i'm doing grace
when you're making a remake um i wonder like i don't know how from the ground up is i don't know anything about the production of this remake but i wonder do you try to preserve any sort of like weird edge cases of bugs like that or do you sort of like try to work around those things you know what i mean yeah because like so i need to like look up whether this is is this unreal i think it is unreal engine it looks like this i'm reporting today saying that this is that just goes for unreal engine 5 yeah that is so it is unreal engine 5 so that is like kind of remarkable remarkable wait so i'm trying
to think is their not their engine they've been using for years it's not based on unreal or anything i don't think it is their their proprietary what's it called again i literally said its name last week i think uh is it creation creation engine yeah yeah i don't i don't think it is um but it but it is remarkable look and in three days time is going to be videos of how this game is broken and different in in other ways but it is kind of remarkable how Now the combat and the like way people are walking and all that stuff feels very similar to, like, like if I'm kind of like surprised and shocked
this is on a different engine because it, it looks like very, very similar.
I didn't, I was, I was recording another podcast while their 30 minute video was playing.
So I wasn't listening to it.
So I don't know if they were explaining any of this.
I was only watching it while also trying to talk about Formula One race cars.
So if I'm quiet for a while on shift F1 this week, apologies, everyone.
But so I don't know how they integrated it, but it is it is crazy how like this feels like like that game.
And like like stop criminal scam and like all like I loaded into the Imperial City and like the area loaded.
And then the people like faded in in the same way they did in the original and then started walking around.
and i think you're right there's like there's there's this weird thing where with the graphical update like even the even the opening shot of them spinning around the imperial city because the game looks so new now i'm like this is the world's worst planned city like 50 people could live in this city it's fucking tiny like the prison district is as big as most of the rest of the city like it makes no sense but in 2007 sure it did it looked amazing it was like wow they all live in this big walled -in city and then you go in and then but when you're watching it in high fidelity they're like spinning
around and you're like wow that little merchant district has like six shops and it's like how is this how is this possible um yeah so there's definitely i bet stuff like that but yeah the physics look very similar the you know the sounds the door opening noises all that shit the loading screens it feels like oh i felt right at home the minute i started playing it how different does the combat feel because people were saying it was a pretty big overhaul yeah so that's one thing i'm not so sure of because i didn't play it with mouse and keyboard before so i feel like my you know my sort of uh accuracy
may be slightly off here um i would say the original oblivion felt sort of animation priority to me where like if you hit the swing sword button the sword swung and you kind of came down on them and i can't tell if that's a console latency thing going on there or if that was the way it played out but i would would say i would i would say that like skyrim sort of fixed some of the sluggishness of oblivion in terms of the uh the sword swinging in particular and this feels way snappier but i can't really tell if i i would suspect that this is just snappier like that it's faster overall that the spell
casting is faster that the um that the sword play is fast it feels really good i mean i was going through those rats like no one's business it also kind of felt like maybe they were giving me more um green what's that again the green juice the uh the um not strength the other one stamina thank you god my fucking i had no idea what you meant like you know the green bar i was thinking of like smoothies you get at like a healthy place that are like a green green green juice green juice whatever the green juice is right where your stamina go yeah your stamina and it goes down um i feel like they were giving
me a bit more of that maybe i don't know it's you know maybe to maybe because it is faster maybe they just kind of like retune that a bit uh but yeah i was i was i was cutting through those assassins like fucking a pig through warm strawberries and it was uh it was a good time that's a funny thing because people were saying that the combat would be like the overhaul was more souls like and it is funny because the trajectory of the souls games is that originally stamina was at a premium and then if you play dark souls one and then play dark souls three or like elden ring uh the difference in stamina allocation is ridiculous
like it was this precious resource originally and then it's like you can swing you know a thousand times in a row later on yeah this felt this felt like i was swinging a lot in a way that felt different to the original so yeah i wonder if i wonder if it is a little bit speedier that way um yeah any any more questions about oblivion remaster it is like a full price game it's it's what is it you don't get it for free if you own the blip at least i don't think you did i wasn't listening so who knows i can't lip read todd howard um it is a 50 49 .99 or a 59 .99 for the deluxe edition which comes with let's
see does it have horse armor that'd be fucking hilarious if it did new quests for digital unique digital akatosh and meth runes daggon armors weapons and horse armor sets they did it they did it that's funny that's funny i i can get behind that digital art book and soundtrack app um yeah that's it so they literally the horse armor is there that's beautiful that's very funny i like that amazing well i'm excited to check it out i i you know i it's always fun to just like like revisit a world through a new lens but uh yeah again it can go either way it could either be like wow it's like uh it's like
playing oblivion again for the first time or it could be like what if they look how they massacred my boy yeah i i would it it feels very similar like i would yeah i would i think this is probably the way to play oblivion we'll see we'll see what the it's good time dude the fucking music is so good the music is so good the lockpick sounds you know it's all that stuff it's all you know i can't wait for that weird fan to turn up can't wait all those great quests i believe it was a good time man it's a good video game i never played shivering isles and oh yeah it was one of those things where it's
like i didn't want to replay like the base game just to get to the dlc on xbox 360 so the fact that this got announced it's on game pass i am about i'm almost a thousand achievement points away towards a hundred so it's it's like this could be the game that pushes me across because Oblivion compared to like Skyrim and the others is such an easy game to 100%.
It's just do all the quests basically and you get all the achievements.
So like, yeah, you get 40 achievement points for leaving the tunnel at the beginning of the game.
That's easy as hell.
Actually, that brings up a really interesting point, which is that if you go back and play Oblivion now, the original Oblivion, because there was so much content added and dripped out over the years, when you fire up Oblivion for the first time and you get past the whole protect the emperor and like leave into the world uh instantly you're hit with a like dungeon uh your uncle has sent you a letter there's a mansion make sure you go to the island oh if there's a whole lady with a horse like it breaks my immersion so much to immediately get like 700 quest notifications about about horses i can get
from ladies um so i this may be preferable in in that sense that you're not getting as what amounts to like a pop -up from the xbox store being like don't forget to purchase the new deal except you already have the dlc i remember fallout the same thing that happened when you when you up and you got all the expansion packs yeah i was like oh a mysterious signal has been you know yeah it feels a little less mysterious when there's 14 of them dropping as soon as you step foot in the world madness good stuff man oblivion it's back to save gaming play it now on everything i'm guessing i bought it on steam
guessing it's in and everything i I don't know.
What are we, games journalists?
Get the fuck out of here.
Jeremy Jay, though, we've been playing the hotness, we've been playing the important games off the mainstream, diving into that good old indie juice, sucking it up, swirling it around your mouth and swallowing it.
Tell us about your latest adventures in the indie woods.
Yes, I have been playing a game called Look Outside, which was very funny to type into the podcast document because it felt like you were like, hey, what game do you play this week?
I was like, hey, why don't you fucking go touch grass, asshole?
i felt like i was admonishing you guys for being nerds um but no look outside is a video game it's not just a passive aggressive attack on my peers um this is a uh survival horror rpg um it's it's pixel art it's uh kind of presents like you know like earthbound or like old school sort of 16 -bit jrpgs uh the combat is is first person look at enemies on a on a 2d field kind of like you know know dragon quest or the mother series things like that um and it's really really great and i absolutely i was so pleasantly surprised by this uh this came out like roughly a month ago um and it's it's done really
well it's got uh almost 1300 reviews on steam at this point overwhelmingly positive oh nice so this is it's it's also very clever structurally because survival horror rpg kind of perfectly describes this but this is not sort of like a linear rpg where you start in your hometown and then venture across the world in a linear fashion um this is more like uh in survival horror fashion you're you're starting your apartment there's been this sort of apocalypse where no if you look outside terrible things will happen so the game is called look outside and then the first npc you be is like hey why don't
you look outside and uh i won't spoil what happens but it's not fucking good if you do it um so so everywhere in the whole building there are like you can see there are windows with the blind shut and there's just like eerie light peeking through so there's always so creepy there's always this temptation to like the game keeps tempting you with little bits of like oh why don't you just do it you're like i don't i don't want to i fucking you keep i know bad things will happen so um so essentially there's been like a some sort of apocalyptic event that um is turning people into monsters uh and it
appears that if you look outside you too shall become a monster so the whole game takes place in one apartment building um but you're doing runs essentially from your apartment out into the building and kind of like getting it has a very nice like risk and reward pushing your luck kind of thing where um you can only save in your apartment so if you die you have to go back to your last save and you can only save in your apartment if you push your luck sufficiently on a run so there's a meter that fills up so if you go out and just like go to the vending machine and buy a bag of chips when you go
back to your apartment you will not be able to save oh that's cool which is very very clever because there was a moment where um i early on i had kind of you know was playing a little fast and loose and pushed my luck a little too hard and then uh and then i was like well i i didn't get to the save bar yet because i went out with like 20 health and no healing items so i hadn't had a chance to push my luck enough to save so i had to go into a very very ill -advised battle just to get the the save meter over the over the threshold um but it's how do they gamify that like what's the save meter uh
it's like a it's like a meter at the bottom of the screen with like um sort of like dots that fill up and then there's like a save icon like a little disc uh that gets to it and then the meter keeps going i actually don't know what the the subsequent uh rewards are for pushing your luck more um because i'm a coward but uh anyway so the this game is pixel art and the pixel art is very like when i heard pixel art survival horror jrpg it was like oh i bet it's like i bet it's cute i bet it's got like cute little monsters this game is fucking grotesque and uh in the most fascinating way it's got this kind
of like i don't know like our crumb kind of like weird exaggerated like like bulbous shiny disgusting wet pixel art that is is so good um just like creatures with too many fucking legs and dudes doing weird stuff uh and and very smart with the sort of like economy of animation um there was one animation early on that a character did that was so like legitimately grossed me out like i i was sitting at my computer going oh my god that's fucking that's like wild that they did that uh but it was only two frames looping back and forth um so it does it does does a lot with a little uh and yeah i'm i'm
really enjoying it it's got a couple other clever things going on like um weapons have a chance to break so you're constantly looking for new weapons and trying to build up a uh not not quite breath of the wild level repertoire of weapons but a similar feeling of of scarcity and stuff that uh you know if you if your baseball bat lasted forever you might not have so right it constantly feels like you're trying to get away with as much as you can on each individual run before you go back to your apartment and uh yeah Yeah, and the NPCs and the writing are also...
I was just about to ask actually what the writing's like, because there seems to be a lot of text in the gameplay trailer here.
Yeah, um, the writing is so good.
I, I, it's, it's funny but it's not like, it's not jokey.
It's funny but not jokey.
It's like, I was constantly laughing kind of at the absurdity of what people were saying and characters are being weird and kind of obtuse and quirky in a very sort of like, you know, Earthbound -y way, um, but uh, but it never feel like they, it didn't feel like this is a comedy game the game is not trying to make you laugh it's just doing things that are so absurd especially against the backdrop of this like apocalyptic lovecraftian horror scenario that it's like when people are are weird and in a funny way that's slightly off -putting you're almost like laughing to cut the tension because you're
like you know it's like it's like when someone talks to you in public and says something really weird and you're like you're not like laughing because it's funny you're laughing because you're like oh i hope this guy doesn't like stab me on the bus um yeah that's that's kind of the uh the energy of the npcs and and people show up at your door as well which is kind of a fun mechanic because you know you'll go back to your apartment to save and eat food to regen your mana and health and uh it'll be like there's a knock at the door and then there's like the fucking scariest looking drifter out there
and he's like please could i do you have any food and it's like i something good might happen if i feed this guy but also i might open if i open the door he might just like jump me with the knife um so yeah it's i i'm really enjoying it a lot um i uh i highly recommend it hell yeah developed by francis colombe i want to say is how you pronounce thank you for taking the bullet i was afraid to mispronounce his name their name no worries from quebec um they uh have a youtube channel that has a bunch of dev diary stuff from i think it's a different game is it malison or or something malice in the cursed
city i think is another game that they were working on oh cool um so if i want to check those out they're a couple of years old but uh look pretty interesting and some pixel art dev stuff on there um maybe we can stick it in the show notes maybe yeah for sure uh frankie small show is the youtube channel that looks cool yeah it looks super interesting i'm gonna i'm gonna check this out i've never um didn't come across this and again it's another game that's gotten like shed loads of really good reviews published by devolver as well so So yeah, I don't know, maybe it should, I don't know.
Did you see this market as much?
I'm like, I don't want to dunk on Devolver, but I'm not, I didn't see much of this.
No, I just, maybe it's just a way of gaming at all.
2025. Yeah, it kind of just organically came to me, but I feel like I saw maybe like a post from the developer.
I just followed them on social media, literally as we were speaking about it this second.
So I don't know how it made its way to me, but yeah, I mean, 1300 reviews on Steam ain't ain't nothing to uh to to whatever uh so i i feel like it might have just surfaced because i play a lot of survival horror games and steam was like you're a fucking you're a little sicko yeah exactly that's look outside available now on uh on pc on steam and maybe somewhere else who knows is it on itch let's go check if it's on itch people get angry at me if i don't talk about it's on uh there's a demo there's a demo on itch go check it out get that demo version um speaking of demos i played a not a demo i
played a beta of a rematch this is the uh the the the soccer league without the cars remember that also known as soccer it's the uh game by the folks over at slow clap who have made sifu of course and absolver um i think they're i feel like they're based in france i feel like if they're not they're they're quite french and they're making rematch which is a uh a i want to say four by four four on four like three outfields one goalkeeper soccer game it's it's just it's it's almost five aside soccer you play soccer you control one character it's multiplayer uh it seems very popular like that's the thing
i've noticed is that like you can jump into this beta and you will instantly find games like no No problem whatsoever.
It seems to be pretty well received so far.
You guys have any questions about rematch?
Soccer. Big soccer fans here.
First of all, I have to say in the trailer, they say keepers are sweepers.
And I feel like that's a slogan that is...
It's so perfect. It's such a layup and it rhymes, but I don't care about soccer.
So I'm like, okay. If you want, I can explain what keepers or sweepers means.
I mean, can I guess first?
Yes, you can. it is it is uh telegraphing the the aggressive in your face type of soccer that you're going to be playing because this your keepers are not staying in goal conservatively having a cup of tea like your granddad's soccer they're uh scoring goals with the boys that's great great explanation totally wrong but very i liked it a lot i gave it my all it was imaginative like these aren't your these aren't your your your granddad's sweepers the keepers these are sweeping a sweeper is a position it's sort of like an antiquated position in football now where you would have the two center backs
the full the center backs basically one sort of playing slightly behind the other one so if the ball went past the first one that the the one behind would basically be the sweeper they would be the last it's sort of like the last player before you hit the goalkeeper so what What they're saying when they say keepers or sweepers is basically the goalies not just sitting on the net.
They're also playing sort of behind the defense.
So they're also in the game sort of, which is not my experience of rematch. I'll be honest. The keepers are usually fucking back on the line and you get when your game starts, it's like kind of random opposition you're playing, I guess.
And I mean, you can play whatever position you want, but like whether or not you're on goal or not.
but if you if you run back i've i've been the last player back before and ran back to the goal and goalie gloves basically spawned on my character and i was in goalie mode then um which is another concept from like playing you know football with your mates or something called you know last man back we'd call it where it was like the the person who's on goal is the person who's closest to the goal basically um a way of just allowing people to jump in there had to be an on goal uh but yeah you put it's it's it's it's sort of similar to if you played the uh single the single character modes in fifa over
the years which i i think they might have stopped doing or maybe they i think i had trouble doing it last i talked about in the podcast a couple months ago right trouble in fc24 doing this or maybe it's only available online i don't know know fifa's got like 15 000 modes i can't keep up anymore but there was a mode before where it was like a third person camera and you played one character and this is a sort of much more arcadey snappy version of that um you know there aren't many fouls in the game you can slide tackle and you'll get them or you won't and it's you know the high degree of skill
is about how much control you have over the ball so where you know you can do like special moves to flick the ball over people or dummy or random and the shooting is done interestingly it's it's almost like so you're controlling the character with your left stick and your right stick is is sort of the camera but also it's the like the reticle for shooting so you like point it at the top corner and hit the shoot button they'll they'll put it in that corner and similarly there's kind of not really a pass button there's just like a kick the ball button which i think works good because it basically
means instead of you like you know similar to rocket league i i guess in in fifa you hit the pass button and the ball gets passed to the player you're facing you know what i mean like it's it's it's the control is taken away from you and ultimately what football is all about playing football playing soccer is how accurate you are kicking the ball like that's that's the most kind of important part and fifa sort of obfuscates that into decision making it's more about like you're deciding to run past this player you're deciding to cross the ball you're deciding to shoot here or head the ball here
um and it's not the act of doing it and that's why rocket league felt like such a great version of soccer because it was about the kicking i mean it was about driving a car into a ball but like ostensibly it was about like hitting the ball in the right place so it goes in the right place um and this is similar to that where you know the shooting similarly i guess you can put spin on it and stuff like that and you can be as accurate as you want but the passing in particular like lobbing and chipping is sort of manual in that way where you're kicking the ball into space you're hitting it to people
and i'm sure there are people who are like playing this who are really good at um you know team play and able to to basically you know do put to put together amazing team plays and stuff like that um but uh uh but yeah i've i've enjoyed it um i played like i don't know how many games of this 10 15 games of this and then since this week i've been playing a lot of rocket league so i don't know what that tells me maybe i got out of i got you know maybe i got enough out of this beta and then was like oh i'll play rocket league or maybe i was like oh i forgot how awesome rocket league is i don't know
um but it definitely has a similar uh feel to it um and yeah art style looks good the animation is slick um it seems pretty far along and uh i don't know how they're doing the beta but it seems large enough that you could probably um on their website i'm on it right now and you can you seem to be able to apply to the beta on playstation xbox series consoles or steam um so maybe it's just a pure sign up thing yeah it is you just you just give them your email address and hopefully wait for a beta key uh does it remind you more of rocket league or does it kind of reminds me of just from viewing it
of like the soccer version of nba street where it's like scaling down and like densifying the sport there was a there are have been many versions of fifa street it was i think it was actually fifa street was out before the nbs i i could be wrong actually maybe that's not true maybe i don't know maybe that's not true actually um the fifa street games always had like like some element do they always have i feel like they usually at least had more arcadiness to them and which maybe fifa street did too the fifa street sort of sit between nba jam and regular nba games i kind of feel like he was kind
of in there somewhere and this feels definitely more rocket league i would say yeah i don't know why i guess in fifa street you also like played the team right a lot of the time you were the team you weren't just one player I think yeah in NBA I have never played any FIFA game ever right but I believe in NBA street that was the case I think so yeah and this one feels like um there was a great mode in um it was a FIFA 95 I forget which one it was where there was like an indoor football mode that was great because you kick the ball off the walls and stuff like that and you're kicking the ball off
the walls a lot in uh Rocket League as well uh but that's one way in which this game different like maybe that maybe they have indoor levels at some stage i don't know but in this one when you hit it off the wall it doesn't seem to like it's not like you're ricocheting balls off the wall to to get into good spaces it seems to kind of kill the ball a bit and more um so there's less of that but yeah no it feels feel i don't know is it it probably has a lot to do with the like the camera angle and and sort of you know what you're meant to be doing when you get the ball like passing it around and moving
it up the field and stuff like that um yeah it feels kind of a bit i would say pretty rocket league and just the online nature of it it's probably part of it too cool it looks fun yeah rematch there you go it's uh mario strikers how does it compare to mario strikers this is the only two soccer games have ever appealed to me and it's they're the least sportsy soccer games ever one was mario strikers and one was mega man soccer which which might be the all -time best. What was your favorite striker?
Was it the one in the GameCube?
Whatever the first one was.
God, it's been so long.
It was GameCube. Was it the GameCube one?
Yeah, it must have been.
My favorite was Charged, the Wii one.
It was really good.
My favorite striker was Charged.
He kicked, like, four goals.
I remember the ball would fly up into the sky, and then you could take, like, multiple shots, and multiple balls would go on the goal.
A big alligator goalkeeper made no sense.
No, it's not better than my favorite striker, Charged.
My favorite striker is fucking brilliant.
it artist strikers has surprisingly low reviews of the i just pulled up the wiki uh let's see gamespot gave it a 7 .2 who reviewed it brian ekberg oh brian he's a sports guy as well shit damn he was probably like this is not sports this is you're kicking three balls at once at a crocodile this is not what soccer is all about brian has been uh i think he's still there he's been working at turn 10 for about uh i don't know a long time now like he left before five years before i joined i think he's good dude meckberg as he's known online or was 15 years ago people gave a shit i still give a shit god
damn it it's still real to me god damn it speaking of which we need greg cassavan to do a fucking 24 -hour oblivion remaster stream let's get i would love that let's make it happen i would love that i'll be there for the whole 24 hours i'll drink i'll drink i'll track down some surge you said indoor soccer and it instantly made me crave surge because really really that's what I would every time Seacoast Soccer in New England I would go to the indoor soccer place and I would get a surge before the game and I don't think I liked indoor soccer I think I just liked abusing caffeine as a child that's
like when I have the same sort of uh sense memory with uh with the local we had one swimming pool in our in our town and it was the Waterford Glass swimming pool it was like owned by the Chrysler factory um and we used to go there and The smell of chlorine, of course, which I think everyone can remember.
And then I would always try and blag a lilt, which is a soda that I don't think has ever been outside of the UK and Ireland.
It is a pineapple -based soda.
It is the totally tropical taste.
Everyone who grew up in the 90s and the British Isles is now singing the song with the Rasta guy's voice right now.
Only European 90s kids remember this soda.
Good stuff, man, yeah.
Lilt. Get a fucking lilt in you.
There's probably a very obvious American equivalent to it.
Oh, the font looks exactly like Fanta.
I wonder if it's similar.
We had Fanta too. Yeah, they're both Coca -Cola, and the font is almost identical.
Yeah, it was just pineapple fucking Fanta, I guess.
Yeah, it was a good time though.
What is, is there, is there some sort of, like, what is it, like, lilting?
Like, when someone's voice is, like, lilting?
I have no idea. That's a good question.
Lilt. Isn't lilt, like, an accent thing as well?
Lilt? Now I'm doubting everything I know.
I don't know why it's called lilt.
They couldn't think of a non -racist name to call it, so they called it lilt.
I don't know. Fucking lilt.
Why is it called that?
Okay, wait, hold on.
From the 1970s until its dissolution in 2023, lilt was promoted by the advertising slogan Totally Tropical Taste.
Totally Tropical Taste.
This famous catchphrase was created by Ken Howlett, who entered a magazine competition and won second prize receiving a ghetto blaster.
First prize was a trip to the Caribbean.
I'm reading verbatim what it says.
He didn't win it. But he didn't win it.
But they fucking used it anyway.
Did they send someone?
OK, now this is a fucking, we need to do a documentary on this.
Did they send someone else to the Caribbean and not use their slogan?
Or was it a scam where they sent nobody to the Caribbean and they were like, hey, you know, second place ain't bad.
And then they use this slogan.
first place was like the fucking ceo's son you know yeah also to be fair uh sorry ken howlett but totally tropical taste i don't know if that deserves a trip to the caribbean i like man i'm still singing it it's been fucking 20 something years also i just love that we've gotten rid of the term ghetto blaster it is a clickable linked phrase on wikipedia and it links to the wiki for boombox which i think is more politically correct way to refer to a ghetto blaster yeah ghetto blasters was only ever called ghetto blaster in places where there were no ghettos or people were did not live in ghettos
or yeah did not use the term i don't think anyone who lived in like a housing project was like i'm gonna go to the store and purchase a ghetto blaster no if you did that i feel like in a certain time in america if you asked for a ghetto blaster people would think you were talking about like an mp5 or something yeah like a like a glock yeah fucking ghetto blaster i'm gonna go blast some shit in the ghetto um yeah lilt lilt was uh when did they end lilt did it discontinue 2015 oh no that was the mango flavor when did the regular flavor is this still around it says 20 until it's dissolution in 2023
so you just missed if you're listening to this oh oh it's now just called phantom pineapple and grapefruit grapefruit wait okay wait hold on hold on this is good shit why advertisement in the late 1980s featured the lilt man a parody of in a lilt float oh okay that's a that is a like a milk float like a vehicle i thought that was a like a little soda with ice cream in it disgusting oh he was singing the song it's a good time here comes the lilt man here comes the lilt man yeah it's like the dirt man man put a little under my pillow for the look man put a little coal under my pillow for the coal
man i fucking love i just went to the top of this wikipedia article we're just reading wikipedia today on the podcast um it was only sold in uk ireland and gibraltar i can't why the fuck did they bother like they would have had to fly cans of lilt to southern france spain to fucking sell it to like 20 people dude little was like a smuggling scam they were smuggling shit over like hashish from morocco was coming in 100 yeah little was actually two percent hashish by volume actually that's ridiculous could you imagine the fucking the like what possible reason like how how could you sell that much
lilt and fucking the rock of gibraltar like how many people live in gibraltar like 2 000 people it's fucking tiny like surely there's not i'm gonna look up the population of gibraltar they must have done like 2 000 people they must have done like a test run of little everywhere and gibraltar was just like we fucking love this we love lilt we something about their specific like micro climate culturally and i don't know yeah who knows makes sense they're way closer to the equator you know they got some little men dancing around with the little floats probably you couldn't you know crossing that gibraltar
is such a small country they have a fucking road going through the main runway in their airport like they have in the in in in normal countries where you have those like you know when when a road is crossing a train tracks and they have the things come down they have one of those on their fucking runway because the the country is like i mean england shouldn't own gibraltar let's just say that i don't know get the brits out of everywhere i guess you know colonialists can fight other colonialists and that's fine but don't worry about it you can still get little so at least you could down there until
2004 now it's called phanta pineapple and grapefruit checking out now thank you to our sponsor phanta i'm picturing a loyalist who's like hey guys listen i know yeah get the brits out everything but lilt is pretty good like i don't know if we want if we're ready to give that up as a nation that's true that's true i'm not going to wander more into spanish um politics i already earlier today conflated the catalan people and the basque people on a previous podcast and i feel bad about it still so yeah but you can speak to the irish experience of drinking lilt oh yeah we fucking love lilt that was as
close as we were getting to the seychelles you kidding me yeah oh wait hold on hold on i do have to say at the beginning the bottom of the wikipedia see i i didn't have context for this before but it says contrary to claims made by various news outlets lilt has never been sold in the seychelles i know that's that's why i said it that's oh i thought you were saying that was that so that was the advertising i don't know tropical is a fucking you know i always thought it was more caribbean but like sure maybe maybe it was also it's just anywhere we didn't know then we didn't know the world we had
the weed my atlas had the fucking ussr in it until you know my whole childhood and that had been that had stopped when i was three years old so we just didn't know maybe maybe it was the seychelles maybe it was fucking you know the caribbean maybe it was hawaii i don't know i do feel like pre -internet you could get away way more with being like this is the this is the everyone's favorite drink in micronesia and no one could speak out against you we didn't know it's just all a bunch of stupid white people like kofi kingston you know what i mean frank knows he just rebranded that guy fucking he
was from 15 different countries he was just a black wrestler they were like oh he's african always from jamaica he's from right didn't they keep doing that frank they do that like constantly with every yeah yeah okay i mean wrestling sort of like ground zero for that shit though because is like didn't like half of like like wasn't the iron sheik from like fucking more like eastern europe or something what was his deal i forget she i knew like sabu was originally like hailed from like bombay india and then like bombay michigan like even though he was that's what they that's what they mumbai michigan yeah
yeah and like they would say that even though he was just a guy from brooklyn but he was like all the way from yeah and he was a yeah so it's i take fuck he was born in Iran I take it back Iron Sheik sorry dude I didn't know well he's the exception that proves the rule I guess we're on to wrestling and your voice sounds to be maybe we've got like 16 sentences out of you before it goes horse so what was what was your what were your favorite shows what was the we just talked about I did see Sabu's retirement match which the first big spot he did like it was a barbed wire was it called it a no rope
barbed wire match so So they take off the ropes, and it's just, you know, three layers of barbed wire.
And then there's also, like, tables and stuff and, like, barbed wire.
Everybody could call them, like, barbed wire pits or whatever where it's just, you know, it's just a, instead of, like, imagine a mattress, but instead of a regular pitch, it was a barbed wire.
Yeah, it's a barbed wire pit.
Sabu, like, dove, you know, like, dove out of the rink face first into the barbed wire, and I think it caught on his eyelid.
So when he got up, it was so disgusting.
busting the second spot the second spot he fell on a barbed wire board but the barbed wire ropes gave out and he just landed back on his head on the floor oh my god dude he i thought he died is he trying to kill himself in his final match it didn't matter if he was gonna have a career ending injury because it was it was the last match either way i think sabu was like let's do it he really i would because people felt like he's 60 years old he look he he looks he doesn't look look great he's awesome but he looks like an old man because he is and it's an old man who has like had the most injuries
of any wrestlers but um they went for it they really really did and uh it was it was shocking but he did this one spot he hit his head immediately pools of blood and like it was like i was like terrified like it had like a hush in the crowd wow and so and so what they did is they had like other wrestlers come in and then sandman from ecw came out so they did the whole thing where the arena lights went black or went dark and then salmon they start playing metallica salmon comes out for five minutes drinking beer and pouring beer in the audience as he comes down sabu eventually gets back up and they
finish the match but uh yeah so a lot of like blood death match stuff a huge highlight was like finally being able to speak to a lot of uh like the stardom wrestlers but this time like i've i've been like practicing japanese very basic but i was able to like converse with them in japanese and so many of them were like oh my god your Japanese is very good like oh like nihongo sogoi like and so it was just so funny to go back and forth in Japanese and like that was the coolest experience um so I felt I felt very like happy even also getting the geek out I got to speak to the president of stardom
wow in Japan everyone is so busy there's like it's also like a little taboo to like directly go up and like you know they're working but here in America it's like they're so hands -on there's not many whatever so I went up to the president of stardom and told him like oh yeah it's the best wrestling in the world but then he saw my wrestling pins i have one of the rival promotions girls on the jacket he's like wait a minute wait a minute utami and i was like oh tommy suki desu like i like utami he's like it's okay i like utami too um i went up to the referee i went up to the referee of stardom this like
this i think six year old guy named daichi and like i was like okay i get a photo like they're always like shocked it's like everyone wants to meet the girls and stuff but i'm like oh let me talk to the president let me talk to the referee because i was like so excited to geek out uh and then same thing like he saw my other rival promotion shirt tokyo joshi pro and i was like oh no no like stardom's best he's like no no it's okay tjpw good so it's like it was very funny same thing with all the wrestlers i talked to they would all point at the pins of like it's like i would go up to the wrestlers
and be like like starlight kid who's the bottom pin i was like oh you're my favorite wrestler like ichiban all that thank you and then she'd point like utami same thing i like utami and they would also like no i like utami too so it was very funny it was just very exciting just to go up and meet everyone also in Japan the meet and greet stuff is so strict and difficult whereas in America it's way more it's easier just geeking out I was able to buy I know it sucks for audio listeners but I've been watching WCW Nitro and directly from one of the producers and managers from Nitro they were selling
liquidated WCW merchandise so I got a vintage Nitro grill hat where the big boys eat which which was their failed restaurant they had in Vegas for like a year yeah yeah so it's the original Nitro grill things hat so it was funny to I got it I got to see Juventud Guerrero the the luchador from Nitro like it was just very fun just to go up I got a Leparca mask legit Leparca mask so I got it so I went to this thing called WrestleCon gotta earn the mask man right you know it was it was it's you know $30 thank you so much it was great it was so so like the whole premise of it is it's like during Wrestlemania weekend
every wrestler company indies come out and set up a bunch of shows around Wrestlemania because the idea is like well if there's what 60 ,000 wrestling however many people coming out they want to see other shows too right and so that's why stardom was in town all these wrestlers I ignored Wrestlemania I just went to go see all the other shows but they also set up a thing called WrestleCon which is basically you know it's like a giant meet and greet festival but people are also showing selling retro stuff so it was so fun to walk around and literally know every single people and so many people from all
the obscure wcw crap i've been watching so it was just like oh my god like it was so so so exciting and um yeah so that's why i was it was like it was it was so i don't know it was great it was like the best weekend did you watch any of mania like on tv or anything the only thing i watched was the the EoSky match because EoSky was from Stardom.
Oh, funny. Yeah. So that was like the one.
Is that the three -way one?
Yeah, the triple threat.
Yeah. She is the first female Japanese wrestler to win a match in WrestleMania.
Oh, nice. Yeah. And so she is literally Joshi wrestling history.
Two Irish girls won the tag team as well.
One of them wrestled in Waterford once as well.
There you go. Herself and Seamus.
Two champions who've wrestled in my tiny town take that gibraltar uh and um and then the other yeah so it's uh so it was great and like yeah my voice is gone for screaming and that's the other fun thing too is like in japan you have to be a little like i you don't want to be the loudest person in the room so yeah it's very it's very like reserved but in a there's a tony storm quote that's like when when you're in japan you're a foreigner uh but when you're in the ring they're in your country and they're talking about just like wrestling but i i took that mentality of like oh no like they're in america we
can be nuts and so all my friends and i were just screaming and starting chants and like but like the wrestlers liked it because the whole point like especially in these shows is you're trying to get yourself over so you're playing to the audience you're when wrestlers are coming out they're trying to like pump up the crowd so it's so fun to immediately just like you know scream out your favorites and they respond to you and stuff like that and like so it was uh i don't know it was just very exciting it was it was it was a great time and it was so fun to just scream but yeah seeing seeing Sabu
nearly die was nuts seeing all my favorite Joe sitting front row screaming and all the joshis was very exciting um like again same thing going up to them and just like showing them a phone of like oh yeah i just saw you in yokohama in january uh like they're like i was like going up to all these people wearing like merch i would get in japan and they're shocked like how do you have this shirt and it's like oh no i bought it for me three months you gotta start bringing your resume around or something you got yeah i know finish finish the arc i know i know so so uh that's why i was insane to meet
okada i was like oh my god i should of i like i even told him i got like too familiar by the end like the referee recognized me by like day four but i even told okada the president i was like i'll see you in japan which is too like but i was just so in my element and happy um and and then yeah so there there was a lot of fun stuff so it was just it was just a great time and then also on social media it was so fun seeing all the japanese wrestlers freak out by american food like especially in vegas so it was like giant pizzas and things like that so oh i saw gersman taking a retweeting one of the wrestlers
with like a pizza and i was like why are you taking a picture of a pizza but i was like oh yeah of course american pizzas are ridiculous i never i just used to it now yeah her name is waka and she's in a tag team called over eats and so oh my god like uber eats yeah uber eats but just over eats i don't know what's over eats but uh yeah so she she she she calls herself a big eater and so she not in the ring or anything, but she just eats a lot and loves...
They all posted pictures of them getting Panda Express and just local food, but it's so exciting.
Even Starlight Kid posted a picture of her in front of an American Starbucks because they have drinks you can't get in Japan.
This is just all the same shit that we do over there.
Yes, exactly. What's the word for a Japanese weeb?
That's a good question.
Like a Marabou? There you go.
Yeah, yeah. A Marabou.
I'm trying to think.
uh it was when they when they were in pennsylvania last year for wrestlemania they all took pictures in front of a yellow school bus because that's such an american like thing where it's not and there's no you know totally yeah i don't have those in europe at all that's it's one of the most american things in my mind is the yellow school bus yeah yeah it didn't even dawn on me i was like oh i was like yeah it was so funny to freak out a yellow school bus they love miss frizzle they kept thinking of the magic school bus uh frank i feel like i feel like you're i feel like you're at some like 40
of the way through the story of your yakuza plot arc where like the game yakuza not you joining the organized crime uh syndicate where where yeah where you have nine fingers no we're like i feel like we're with the arc where you're you're meeting all of these people and then you go to japan and see like the president of startup again and he's like oh yeah it's that guy why don't you uh why don't you run a few jobs for me and then you start the uh you know the the guide -in phase where you're just doing little side stories and then it elevates into your uh your transcendence into i don't know whatever
stardom figure you want to become yeah right one of the wrestlers is like embezzling money or maybe the ref was and you're you have to like figure it out and yeah any anything they need i'm i'm there i'm there there you go love it love to see it well thank you for risking life lemon voice to report to us from the uh the uh sin city wrestle fest that sounds like a good time where are they doing mania next year do you know so new orleans so oh that's a fucking good that's a good time so i'm so i've never gone but it's like i i gotta go jeremy you filmed there for game spot once right uh yeah i think
when you were freelance you did mafia or something down there oh yeah yeah i was trying to remember what gig was yeah yeah yeah that was a long time ago which is really funny because they make that had a fucking tiburon yeah they they flew all everyone out who were all within a 20 mile radius to go you could yeah exactly every games journalist is like a fucking ferry ride from mafia where mafia is made in nevado or whatever they couldn't just like recreate bourbon street in a warehouse in nevado they had they could have easily done it in like san francisco somewhere they could have laid some red
brick building somewhere and fucking i don't know they gotta gotta make a splash they gotta they gotta take you there and wine and dine you i wasn't wine and dined but if i if i had been it would have made an impression no you were a freelancer then so they were getting your own cab buying my own wine and my own dime um that's all the games but the email we have sort of on theme for this frank it seems yeah thank you we had um if people do want to send a email into us write to us podcast at noclip .video or in our patreon discord in the the podcast chat channel this time I had an email from Connor they
asked what have been your favorite locations to visit and film for your documentaries man oh man Jeremy you don't go first you wanna uh sure yeah I um we've been a bunch of amazing places I feel like the the one place that we went to uh that I I would pay my way back to in a heartbeat out of my own pocket is Japan um it It just like, I don't know.
We didn't even really have like a traditional touristy experience in Japan.
Like we made time to go see a couple touristy things, but I don't know.
It was just like, I just, people were incredibly friendly.
The food was incredibly good.
The city was incredibly clean and safe in our experience.
And I just like, I don't know.
It wasn't even, I think a lot of people think like, oh, Japan, it's so like culturally different that it's like, you know, like a culture theme park or something where you're going to this place.
and it's like oh this is like so the soda is different here and that is like part of the fun but um i don't know it just there was like a real i just felt very comfortable there and i felt like uh i i don't there was i i it's like my interest in in my main interest like my top five i feel like three out of the five are things that are like buddhism and video games in japan are like the fucking thing and those are i don't know i feel like i have a spiritual affinity with uh with japan that i would need to explore more it was like a weirdly short trip as well like yeah we were really only there
for like five days maybe or something right i think it was less than a week yeah i think we left on the sixth day maybe yeah because it was pretty and we were pretty full on we were filming for three days at the studio i think and then i mean the b -roll days were incredible it was just impossible not to get amazing b -roll everywhere you know there was just everywhere and akihabara it was during sakurai season right so we we had we had sakuro of season so sakurai season as well sakurai season never stops yeah so like gorgeous shots i still remember that random spot we got with the cherry blossoms
fall yeah it was just like a parking lot yeah it just looked incredible though everything was incredible all the shots were incredible great filming yeah it was uh yeah it was a lot of fun we got to drink all the picari sweat we wanted to drink we could go watch our behind the scenes go go check you you the behind the scenes video on our patreon is basically 90 % of that trip so go go check that one out um other ones i really loved leon leon was it was a great city we had good fun there good food beautiful town it was our last trip before covid hit i think maybe we did obsidian just before it maybe
i forget it was around the same i think it was the same month we did two of them um so yeah leon was was was a great it's like one of those places i wouldn't have necessarily gone to if we we hadn't had a trip so it was cool to get away off the beaten path um that way um i had a lot of fun in talon like i did not know anything about estonia prior to that um that's the the project that is coming next from us the discolysian one but it was almost last it was late last summer and yeah i had a i had a real blast there such a weird walkable city i kept bumping into places i'd seen from the movie tennis there's
lots of late nights fun locals i met a bunch of locals and hung out um anytime we do a meetup is good fun did a good meetup in stockholm recently that was good fun enjoyed that one stockholm is definitely a fun city been there a few times now um trying to think where else i mean we've been like so many places over the years i'm just trying to think what ones stood out richardson texas the at the all -timer no i'm sorry i'm sorry richardson texas we did hardly anything there didn't we we said we didn't even see any of richardson we just saw that guy power walking down the sidewalk and that will live
forever in my heart yeah yeah you're right some places you don't get to see much at all san diego we were in and out as well for rocket league that was that was warsaw we always have a good fun this said they're probably people usually it's a a good it's a good time hanging out with them it's a interesting city a lot of history for sure you had fun in england on that creative assembly project i wasn't on didn't you oh yeah yeah it was fun it was very stressful because that was also the weird airbnb i stayed in a bizarre bed and breakfast in the countryside and it was like the beginning of a uh
like a 70s english folk horror movie because no one else was staying there so like this huge they probably had like like a hundred rooms there and they would uh they would like come down and be like dinner is being served uh in an hour if you want to come down uh i would i'd go down and i'd be the only one there for like a bunch of the dinners so it's like a dark and stormy night and i ordered um i ordered indian food delivered and uh and i just like had a beer and ate samosas with the guy who ran the bed and breakfast and i don't know i was it was very very cozy but a very strange sort of feeling
ordered the indian food and then eat it in their restaurant i did because because i ordered it to the place and i was like just call me when you're here and he knocked on the door which i was like you know a mile away from down the hall um so the owner of the place took it and then he called me and he was like your curry's here it's like how do why do you have it uh so i went down and he had like put it out in the restaurant for me like set it up for me so it was very shit i can't go go hide in my room yeah yeah yeah exactly so probably a good curry was it uh it was all right it was all right
okay it was yeah it wasn't bad um yeah i mean i don't that's not a reflection of uh the curry in in the uk i just maybe maybe it wasn't i was also in the middle of fucking nowhere um but uh yeah it was it was cool it was an interesting experience but my adapters um for power adapters kept like getting incredibly hot oh yeah uh during the last interview um um we're talking about alien isolation and i started to smell the whole room filled with the smell of burning plastic and uh an adapter had literally melted like the shape of it had it heated so much that the shape of it was changing um so i
was just like i hope a that we all don't like have cancer in five years from this and and b that uh that you know that doesn't actually burst into smoke or flames during the filming but uh that's fair got to clean and then uh chris Brat a class act after the final filming I got back to the bed and breakfast and the guy there was like oh your friend sent something for you I was like what the fuck are you talking about and I got back to the room and Chris had sent me a bucket of Peroni beers to drink after a class dude he's a class guy he is he went to like Italy for that shoot too remember on his own
to interview yeah I forgot about that original founder yeah that was a that was a fun one I was i had no fucking involvement in that i was off fucking what was i doing i was i was having a baby i think did you edit that or did chris i think chris did right because he did all his stand -ups you shot the stand -ups i shot the stand -ups i think i don't think i edited that one i feel like chris did yeah is that the only doc that's gone off that neither of us said it must have been i totally forgot that he edited that yeah i think so except the um we did the alien isolation one i think did esteban edit
the fighting game one oh you're right sorry of course esteban did did the did the um fgc one yeah but what can i remember the guy's name fucking i'm trying to think of it in donkey is the only thing that's coming into my head which is not the donkey is clearly over spooky team spooky team spooky team donkey team donkey exactly um man oh man yeah good times good times everywhere we go is a good fun time especially when we have have a good meetup i was at war pigs uh in copenhagen before my one day off when i was there which i think i mentioned last week and we had a good meet up more pigs and we
were there good uh barbecue place in copenhagen what's the best place we've eaten oh that's tough we do a lot of uh which has got which is the best um canteen yeah we did a lot of that i feel like i think one of the best meals we ever had was uh yakitori in um uh that was good you're not gonna broadway um was that with uh ludwig forsell oh ludwig wasn't it was yeah yeah yeah um fucking death stranding ass uh composer yeah for sure he was just a fat of no clip wanted to hang out yeah we were like yo get kojima to come out that would be that's the fucking dream i want to i want to meet kojima and i
want to talk i'm sure everyone is like oh my god metal gear oh my god out metal gear i want to talk to him about fucking like yasajiru ozu movies and i just want to like i want to tell him that sets kohara is my favorite actress of all time and i want to talk to him about the golden age of japanese cinema ludwig brought us out that was a fun night because we did like we went to that weird bar where they sold drinks that like were smoky and weird and then we had a gun that yeah they had a gun that shot like hickory smoke into the drink that's what it was yeah did we go karaoke that night was that the funny
yeah we did um africa at the the karaoke my favorite moment at the karaoke because it wasn't like karaoke where you get up on stage and sing it was more like you would write in a request and they would play it and everyone would kind of sing together that's what it was the most cigarette dense room i've ever been in in my life like fucking down like a like a like a nightmare staircase too isn't it a basement that you had to like fucking climb out of it was an 80s theme like 80s american music themed bar in tokyo um and i just remember for some reason in the haze of a thousand beers that night
and a thousand cigarettes uh that uh it was it was like don't stop me now by queen or like bohemian rhapsody some queen song came on and for some reason every every japanese person in the bar turns towards the the three white guys as if like they're like they didn't know it or something yeah I don't know, but I felt so on the spot, because I was like, why is this the song?
I didn't request this, I don't understand what's happening.
That was a good time.
That was fun. That's probably up there.
We've got to go back to Tokyo.
I know. Well, I can't get on a plane for the next couple months, so all my fucking blood clots chills the fuck out.
You've got to be frank going off to wrestling shows.
We'll have to live vicariously through you, Frank.
Frank, you and me, Shigesato Itoi, hanging out, talking about Earthbound.
I know, you know, basics of Japanese now, so I'm ready to practice.
Between me and Frank, I feel like we probably have at least...
You're basically one Chinese guy.
One Chinese guy. I feel like we have between 5 % and 7 % mastery of the Japanese language between the two of us.
And who knows how much of the Chinese language.
At least we have nihao.
and that's all you that's all the chinese who really need in japan i'd say yeah i can order food in china anyway that's probably okay yeah there you go that's pretty good china does feel like the country i'm going to die and never have seen enough of because i follow this one youtuber who goes around china china's fucking massive and china is like gorgeous in like the randomest spots and it was like when i was i i didn't have time when we were flying from korea when myself and were fine from korea to warsaw i was like can i just fucking land in like kazakhstan and just fucking because it's on the way
like can i just like hang out in kazakhstan we didn't have time but i was like fuck if there was one i couldn't get a connection that would drop me in the same city in kazakhstan it would get me to both places i would have had to travel like 600 miles across kazakhstan i was not willing to do that in one day i was like that would have been fucking cool i gotta do some shit like that i'd love to go to china that'd be awesome right yeah yeah it seems cool they're chinese fucking game dev money i mean make some games that don't have any winnie the pooh's in them let's go you know let's never mention taiwan will be
the opposite of red candle games we'll just be these weird sellout fucker and you know just propagandists just become chinese propagandists that's honestly there's probably decent money in that yeah think about all the russian propagandists that have done really well over the past few years you know all those right -wing weirdos that are a little soft on putin let's be soft on chi you know i mean these little cozy bear no no see that's what you can't go the cozy bear eggle that's what they don't want oh yeah just pick a different cozy animal getting awfully close to forgiving a genocide just here
let's let's back i'm gonna back beep beep beep i'm backing out of that one didn't mean it didn't mean it thanks for listening to our podcast podcast we talked about oblivion today rematch wrestling a whole bunch of it and look outside was the game jeremy was talking about go check this out and plenty more over on you know the internet just turn on your console play a game i bought goat simulator 3 yesterday you can just get anything you can do whatever you want this is loads of video games there'll be three of those there'll be three of those how much the simulation of a goat can there be it's a very
good question I don't know why I'm buying it.
I've got four goats.
Why the fuck do I need goat simulator?
You've become the German guy who gets off his warehouse job and plays forklift simulator.
That's it. Exactly.
That's me. And then plays Shenmue, the best game ever made, according to, who was it?
New York Times? Me?
I believe it was Frank.
Frank Howley of the New York Times.
He owns the New York Times.
Now he bought it off of whoever owns it now.
Bezos probably bought that too.
We're out of here, folks.
Thanks so much for listening to our podcast, episode 224.
We'll see you next week.
Jesse will be back.
Thank you to Jeremy Jane.
Chapeau for producing the show this week again.
You got it. You did know you were producing the show this week, is that right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
No, I just fucking, I'm so cool about it.
Live on the air. Oh, man, I got an important date.
Cancel it. Franco, gargle some honey.
Thank you. Oh, and a special bonus pod is coming out later this week.
Oh, yeah. Thanks to, sorry, Jeremy, this is my fault.
Jeremy was like, let's do a bonus pod.
we can do a review of something you know interesting something we like and then i was like i was so indecisive that i could not figure out which one i wanted to put forward so i was like look don't worry about it i'll just put up a poll we'll let the patrons decide i put it up on discord i put up four bad movies i don't know what i was thinking i okay full transparency i suggested movies like uh drunken angel by akira kurosawa and i was like we could talk about like post -war yakuza and how it reflects on like the yakuza franchise like these are the yakuza games i've played we got you know like
real movies and then real uh the four you suggested were uh hitman prince of persia um borderlands with kevin hart and uh what was the fourth one the other one is so unbelievable that i forgot it existed because it basically occupies the same space Prince of Persia which is Assassin's Creed oh yeah starring Michael Fassbender these are all movies that are they're so predictable that they exist that I phased to the bed of my brain as existed like I was shocked that they existed I I I similarly I think this is why I ended up doing this I think I thought about what's a video game movie and I thought
of hitman and then immediately because they all came out within like if you actually know Assassin's Creed came in 2016 16 jesus timothy oliphant's hitman the only thing i know about it is that he hated working on it um i think he shaved his head for it and uh it was not very well received the only thing i know about assassin's creed in michael fassbender is that he hated working on it he shaved his head he shaved his head the only thing i know about prince of persia is that i think he's embarrassed embarrassed about working on it and then the other one with borderlands which came out last year
which is total trash and of course got half the votes so we i'm so sorry we will be watching borderlands have you watched borderlands yet no i'm gonna watch it tonight i'm gonna watch it tonight as well honestly it was the best case scenario because i feel like all the other ones are bad but i feel like it's there's a there's a window of of of lack of quality where it's like is it bad and interesting or is it bad and boring and i feel like borderlands is so bad that it It might be sort of like cultural, you know, like you're driving by a car crash and everyone slows down.
You don't want to see the car crash, but there is a deep sort of like morbid curiosity in us as humans to to stare into the Nietzschean void.
We're going to rubberneck.
That's what we're going to do for an hour and 40 minutes.
And we will have our review for you on the bonus feed.
If you're a $5 patron, you get access to that as long as all the other bonus pods.
We're actually behind the bonus pods.
We're going to have an extra one as well in the next week or so.
But yes, I can't wait to check it out.
10 % on Rotten Tomatoes.
Cate Blanchett. Imagine if this was her retirement fight.
Imagine like Sabu. She went out on fucking Borderlands.
She fell on a bunch of barbed wire filming the movie.
Exactly. Herself and Jamie Lee Curtis is in it.
Jack Black, I think, is Claptrap.
Just a star -studded cast of regret.
They probably got a lot of good money for it.
I think Penn Jillette's in it as well.
oh that's pretty cool wait who is fucking pendula or should i just be surprised by take one guess take a guess why pendulet is in this movie i is he claptrap i don't fucking know no just who owns the borderlands ip is it is randy pitchford in the movie played by pendulet randy pitchford is i think owns the magic doesn't he own the magic circle now doesn't he own he's like a magic guy randy pitcher is a huge rat he's definitely friends with pendulet he has to be he's a huge magic guy i didn't know this yeah he's a big magic bloke that's what he does when you say someone is a big magic bloke i picture
like a huge like a hagrid hagrid is a big magic he's a big magic plug that's true is pagrid magic yeah he must yeah he has a flying motorcycle when he's not i think in you know losing usb sticks full of pornography in a in medieval times he's out there i'm talking about randy pageford not haggard but that's why he learned sleight of hand is because he was like i got these hands must be trained this cannot happen again it can't happen again exactly fuck all right well you can look forward to insights like that and more on the patreon pod until then we'll see you next week bye © transcript Emily
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