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From the brains behind Brains On, it's Smash Boom Best.
The show for people with big opinions.
I'm Molly Bloom and this is Smash Boom Best, the show where we take two things, smash them together and ask you to decide which one is best.
We're back with a new season of Smash Boom Best and we're off to the races with a wheelie wild face-off between a vehicle that smashes around arenas and a toy that can zoom just about anywhere.
It's Monster Trucks vs. Hot Wheels.
We've got Smash Boom Best co-creator Mark Sanchez here to rep the mighty, mighty monster trucks.
Oh, yeah.
I'm ready to spin circles around my opponent, a.k.a. do donuts like the great monster trucks.
And we have Smash Boom Best co-creator, Shannon Taunton, here to vroom vroom, vroom for hot, hot hot wheels.
Yeah, I feel the need, the need for winning this debate.
Ha, ha, ha.
And here to judge it all is Archer from Irvington, New York.
Archer is learning how to cope, likes his mac and cheese with bacon and peas thrown in, plays Dungeons and Dragons and has a cat called Violet, but in reality has a much longer name.
Welcome, Archer.
Hey!
So, Archer, what is your cat's actual name?
Princess Violet Von Floofypants Leah Rose Jones.
Incredible.
That's your full government?
It's on her passport.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Excellent.
So do you only call her Violet or do you have like lots of other nicknames too?
She has a ton.
We call her Vivi a lot, Violet.
I say baby when I'm talking to her because she's just my little baby.
And she's five years old.
She's like an adult by cat standard.
But she's my daughter.
I love her so much.
What's her personality like?
She loves people.
Like she's really cuddly.
She likes being picked up.
But she will also scratch you.
Yeah, those cats.
They are unpredictable.
So you play Dungeons & Dragons.
And just for kids who might not be familiar, what is Dungeons & Dragons?
Okay, so DD is like a tabletop role-playing game, which is a really long way of saying you get to pretend to be like different characters.
And it's basically like playing pretend, honestly, but...
Instead of just saying you do something and then the other person can be like, I dodge it.
You get to roll dice and do math to determine what happens instead.
So I know that people in Dungeons & Dragons, they have like a specific character they've kind of created for themselves.
So what's your character?
Oh, I have a character.
Their name is Oleander.
They're an owl, which means they're like, they're basically an owl person.
And they're a wizard because I think spellcasters are the most interesting to play, definitely.
Incredible.
So...
This is your first time judging, but not your first time listening to Smash Boom Bus, so I'm wondering do you have any advice for our debaters today?
Definitely, like, I Will Go Forever has the best car-gument, but... I was saving that pun.
Let the puns begin.
Bring on the puns.
If you make me laugh, bonus points in my heart, in my soul.
All right, you're Axel for it.
What?
Oh, nice.
No, this is going to have the highest pun per minutes of any episode I have a feeling.
I'm gassed for this.
So, will Archer side with Mark or Sandon?
Only time will tell.
But first, here are the rules of the game.
Every debate consists of four rounds.
The Declaration of Greatness, the Micro Round, the Sneak Attack, and the Final Six.
After each round, our judge Archer will award points to the team that impresses him the most, but he'll keep his decisions top secret until the end of the debate.
Listeners, we want you to judge too.
Mark down your points as you listen.
At the end of the show, head to our website smashboomorg, and vote for whichever team you think won.
Okay, Mark, Sandin, and Archer, are you ready?
Ready to go.
Pedal to the metal, baby.
Oh yeah, all gassed up and ready to rumble.
Then it's time for the... Declaration of Greatness.
In this round, our debaters will present a well-crafted, immersive argument in favor of their side.
Then they'll each have 30 seconds to rebut their opponent's statements.
Move up to coin, and Mark, you're up first.
Tell us what makes monster trucks so monstrously cool.
Let me tell you about the legend of Bigfoot.
Oh, sorry, Sasquatch.
I'm not talking about you.
The Bigfoot I'm talking about is a ginormous blue four-wheel drive truck.
It was the first ever monster truck.
It started in the late 1970s with a guy named Bob Chandler.
Bob owned a regular truck that he liked to drive through the wilderness.
He'd run over rocks and through riverbeds, which led to some obvious problems.
Aw, dang it!
My truck keeps getting busted up and broken.
I need something tougher.
Luckily, Bob owned a truck parts shop, so he started tinkering.
He made his truck bigger, stronger, and tire-ier.
Meaning it had bigger tires.
I think I've made a monster.
Cool.
Let's see if it can crush stuff.
He named the truck Bigfoot and soon people around the country were paying to see it pull tractors and do spins and drive over old cars.
Bigfoot became a bonafide celebrity, the first of many monster trucks.
Monster trucks are epic.
They're large, loud, and have tires that are usually around five feet, six inches tall.
That means they're taller than comedian Kevin Hart.
Now you're not gonna see these trucks on regular roads, because a regular road couldn't handle this level of awesome.
Instead, they're driven around at big shows inside packed stadiums.
If you're lucky enough to go to a monster truck rally, you'll see the trucks do a couple things.
They'll race each other and they'll do freestyle stunts.
We're talking obstacle jumps, back flips, wheelies, and donuts.
It's the kind of stuff that makes you leap out of your seat like this.
Yeah, buddy!
Did you see what that truck just did?
It did a flip, then shot out balls of fire.
Yeah, buddy!
Should we scream in excitement?
Yes!
Monster trucks can be over 10 feet tall.
12 feet wide and 17 feet long, about the height of a giraffe.
And they can weigh 12,000 pounds, which is like 208-year-olds.
And even though they're big, some can hit speeds of up to 70 miles per hour.
And don't forget the sheer, unrelenting, unmatched power.
We measure the strength of engines with a unit called horsepower.
A typical car these days has only about 200 horsepower.
Monster trucks have over seven times that.
So much power!
Yeah!
The average Hot Wheel car has, well, you know, zero horsepower.
Unless, of course, a horse steps on it, then it gets attached to the horse's foot and...
And the horse walks around for a while with it.
And I guess it has a little bit of horsepower or horse hoof power.
I don't know.
Oh, sorry, Clompy.
Let me get that car off your hoof.
There we go.
Now, don't get me wrong.
Building up a collection of cute little cars can be fun.
Sure.
But monster trucks are the main event.
They get your blood pumping.
They amp up your adrenaline.
And seeing them perform is like being at a car show, a concert and a competition all rolled into one.
Nothing can top that level of thrill.
In fact, it's time to get back to our seats.
Come on, kid.
Yes!
You too, Clompy the Horse.
And you, Sasquatch.
I saved you both seats and I brought you some earplugs because it's gonna get loud.
Look, it's Thunder Job and he's taking on Venom Vortex.
Oh, and Iron Claw is gaining fast.
This is so exciting.
I love Monster Job.
Big wheels, full tanks, can't lose.
Archer, what stood out to you about Mark's declaration of greatness?
I love that, like, dig at Hot Wheels at the end, where it was like, Hot Wheels have zero horsepower.
I think that was really funny.
I like the use of sound effects.
And you know, my brother is actually an eight-year-old, so I just think it's really funny that they can weigh up to 200 times bigger.
My little brother.
Hi, Sasha, for watching this, by the way.
Sorry I didn't tell you I was going on Smash Boom Best.
I wanted to surprise you.
Hi, Sasha.
Surprise, Sasha.
Surprise.
Incredible.
All right, Sandon, it is time for your rebuttal.
Tell us why monster trucks should go back in the garage.
You've got 30 seconds.
Give me the green light.
And your time starts now.
Okay, here we go.
Average noise levels at one of these monster jams can be 90 to 100 decibels, even up to 125 decibels.
Talk about a monster headache and also monster hearing damage.
And if you hate getting overstimulated or noise bothers you, these will ruin your day, okay?
And you know what?
Bigfoot may have a big foot, but he's also got a big carbon foot print because the CO2 and exhaust coming out of these things is just monstrous.
You know what is a zero emission vehicle?
A hot wheel.
Also, car and car violence is never the answer.
Time.
Stop crushing the old cars.
I believe she yelled time, Sandin, and there are electric monster trucks, just so you know.
The engines are already starting to overheat.
We're going to take a quick break and cool down.
We'll be right back with Sandin's declaration of greatness.
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You're listening to Smash Boom Best.
I'm your host, Molly Bloom.
And I'm your judge, Archer.
Okay, it's your turn, Sandon.
Tell us why Hot Wheels are the toys that will never run out of gas.
Everyone knows this sound.
Making pretend car noises is one of the most important steps in child development.
It comes right after learning to walk and just before having empathy for your fellow humans.
But I'd argue it's far more important.
Because pretend car noises mean you're having fun, which is why we're alive in the first place.
And how did we all master this very serious and 100% important life skill?
Playing with Hot Wheels.
In case you don't know, a Hot Wheel is a mini metal car.
They've been around since the 1960s, and they come in all shapes and sizes.
You got drag racers with big, shiny engines and cool paint jobs.
Or expensive sports cars, the likes of which you only see when your Uncle Don goes through a midlife crisis.
There's Barbie cars, Batman cars and some third example that starts with B that I'm not thinking of.
Vans, trucks, buses, no matter what you're into, there's a Hot Wheel for you.
But I heard cars are expensive.
Yes, little child.
Real cars are especially ones with comically oversized tires and terrible mufflers.
Monster trucks.
But Hot Wheels only cost a few dollars, and they're sold almost everywhere.
But what if I have expensive tastes?
Ah.
A connoisseur.
Well, there are ultra-rare collectible Hot Wheels that go for thousands of dollars.
This is truly a toy for all sizes of bank account.
But the best part is playing with Hot Wheels.
You can race them across the rug.
Do epic car chases on the counters, get them muddy.
Then set up a car wash with the backyard hose.
You can make cardboard towns for them to cruise through, or get the signature orange Hot Wheel tracks and make a speed course complete with a loop-de-loop.
Or, my personal favorite, you can build a massive ramp down the basement stairs and launch your little car friends into oblivion.
Wahoo!
Since they're made of tough-as-nails, die-cast metal, Hot Wheels can take a beating and keep on rolling.
All of this makes them the perfect toy to help you build up your imagination, which is another skill that will take you far in life.
And the Fancy Golden Movie Award goes to Tiffany for her movie Vroom Vroom.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'd like to shout out Hot Wheels for helping me develop my wildly powerful imagination, which allowed me to capture the hearts and minds of moviegoers everywhere.
Let's talk about size.
Sure, monster trucks are big, but like with potholes, poison oak patches, and debt...
Bigger isn't always better.
In fact, there's something so satisfying about small things.
It's why we love tiny dioramas, mini poodles and those videos where people feed hamsters tiny versions of everyday food.
So cute.
And the small size means they're portable.
Hot wheels are way easier to stuff in your pocket than a real car, which makes them the perfect companion for whatever you end up doing.
So next time you're stuck in the line at the grocery store, or riding the bus to school or waiting for the shoe person to bring you the right size shoe, you can bust out your Hot Wheel and let the good times roll.
Vroom, vroom, y'all.
Vroom, vroom.
Vroom, vroom, indeed.
Archer, what stood out to you about Sandin's Declaration of Greatness?
Any moments there that really caught you?
I feel like his final six is just going to be vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom.
Might be.
That's good.
Can I use that?
Sure.
Yeah, it's free.
If you use it, I'll give you the point.
Oh, wait a minute.
You got to give me one too.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Okay.
Anyway, it was just delightful.
I had to stop myself from laughing on multiple occasions.
I had a great time listening to that.
Okay.
Mark, it's time for your rebuttal.
Show us why Hot Wheels are not the real deal.
You've got 30 seconds, and your time starts now.
All right, first thing you talked about is sound, which is the very first point you made about why Hot Wheels are so cool.
You said monster trucks are too loud.
Everybody loves the sound.
Third...
Also, Santa, I'm going to help you out.
A third B car, Batmobile, one of the most collectible Hot Wheels.
You're welcome.
That's a third B. All the plastic tracks, that can't be good for the environment either.
Basically, Santa, just like Hot Wheels racetrack, your arguments end in a sad, sad crash.
Oh!
And time.
Okay.
Mark, I think your arguments are... driving right into a dead end, buddy.
No one's throwing out those tracks.
They're not classic problems if you keep using them.
I've had those tracks.
I use them.
When are you ever going to get rid of them?
I'll be sending my cars down there when I'm a geriatric senior in my 80s.
I would like to say that, like, Shannon, you can't leave your cake and eat it, too.
You can't say that monster trucks are bad because they're too loud and then say everyone loves Hot Wheels because they like the sound.
That's my point.
If you like one car sound, you like another car sound.
I mean, but there is a difference in decibel here.
No one's getting hearing damage from a little kid playing with cars.
Oh, and also I have a problem with your rebuttal, because he said his two Bs were Batman cars and Barbie cars.
The second B was Batman.
Yeah.
It's harder to think of the third B than you thought, Mark.
You're right.
Oh, my gosh.
What about boats?
Boats?
I don't think boats are cars, but yeah, sure.
Brown cars?
There you go.
That was funny.
Those sought-after brown cars.
Everyone wants brown cars.
It's true.
All right, Archer, it is time to award some points.
Please give one point to the declaration of greatness that you like best and one point to the rebuttal that won you over.
You get to decide what makes a winning argument.
Did one team's jokes make you giggle?
Was another team's logic impeccable?
Award your points, but don't tell us who they're going to.
Have you made your decision?
Absolutely.
Excellent.
Sandon and Mark, how are you two feeling so far?
I got my foot on the gas and I'm ready to peel out.
You know the road's been a little bumpy, but I see a flat stretch ahead and I am just going to lay into it.
Do you see a loop ahead?
Do you see a loop-de-loop?
It's coming.
It's coming.
Unfortunately, flat stretches don't do anything for Hot Wheels.
They just stand still.
Yeah.
Not if you push them.
Okay.
It's time for a quick break.
Top off the air in your tires and make some car sounds with your mouth.
And we'll be right back with more Smash Boom Best.
You're listening to State of Debate, home to rage and rhetoric and awe-inspiring argumentation.
Hey there, debate duders.
This is Taylor Lincoln, and I'm here with the flame to my candle, Todd Douglas.
Hey there, hi there, ho there, friendalian.
I was just making myself a sandwich.
Ooh, I do love a sandwich.
Then I'll make one for you.
And, trust me, this one will go way better than that situation I heard about on my favorite sitcom, BFF O'Clock.
OMG, I love that show.
Me too.
And this episode featured a big ol' logical fallacy, which makes an argument easy to defeat.
Ooh.
Here, let's take a listen.
Oh, hey, Benny.
Want a Sammy?
Oh, Dot.
When in our entire best friendship have I ever said no to a Sammy?
Not once.
Not once.
Today, I'm going to make you one of my childhood specialties, the pickleberry surprise.
Excuse me?
Everyone knows about the pickleberry surprise.
What?
How?
Everyone knows about them because they're infamous.
Since when?
Since they are very well known.
But... They're super popular because they're very infamous.
Now stop asking questions and eat already.
Okay.
Well, now I'm hungry.
But did you notice what was wrong with Dot's argument?
She just kept going round and round in circles.
Exactly.
She was using circular arguments.
That's when an argument ends the same way it started, with no real evidence or reasoning to support the conclusion.
Plus, it makes me dizzy.
Here, Taylor, sit down and enjoy half of this pickleberry surprise sandwich.
Mmm, mmm.
Oh, oh, that is not good.
No, it's really not.
See you next time on State of Debate.
And now it's back to our debate, monster trucks versus Hot Wheels.
That's right.
And it's time for round two, the micro round.
In today's micro round, Sandon and Mark will each get three chances to make a micro argument backed by a cool fact.
Mark went first last time.
So, Sandon, please kick us off.
You know, monster trucks, they may be highly engineered machines.
But so are Hot Wheels.
They're fast and durable and they look super cool because they were originally created by toy designers and car designers and even a former aerospace engineer.
They've got mag wheels and torsion bar suspension.
These are basically space-age tech that fits in the palm of your hand.
Whoa.
Wow.
Mark?
Yes.
Fact.
Monster trucks let you bring your imagination and childlike sense of play with you forever.
They're all real-world incarnations of what every Hot Wheels-loving kid dreams of.
In fact, there is a whole monster truck jam dedicated to Hot Wheel cars where they solve the disappointment of not being able to fully experience these cars in real life.
Sorry.
And there are miniature versions of monster trucks that Hot Wheels sell.
So you can keep that dream alive until you get yourself to the next monster jam.
Mark, all I'm hearing is that monster trucks are coasting off of the good graces of Hot Wheels and all these commercials, and using our name.
Well, you know what?
Hot Wheels may be small in size, but they are huge in speed.
These pocket rockets can launch down a track and reach up to 280 miles per hour, which is almost three times the fastest monster truck ever.
So eat our mini dust, slowpokes.
All right.
In 2024, Monster Truck Jams sold over 4.2 million tickets.
That's just in one year.
You know what else sold that many tickets?
Taylor Swift.
Yeah.
And since Monster Truck Jams are so family friendly, kids of all ages can get on the track next to the trucks and drivers and take their pictures and talk to them.
Getting access to Taylor Swift is going to cost I don't know, owning three Super Bowl rings and being named Travis Kelsey.
Yeah.
Hot Wheels fact fact, fact are like little Pokemon on wheels, because Hot Wheels are hot collectibles.
There are old rare ones like the pink VW bus known as the Beach Bomb.
It's worth $175,000.
But even today you can find special treasure hunt Hot Wheels mixed in with regular ones that are worth more.
See, it's play that pays.
Well, monster trucks save lives.
After Hurricane Harvey flooded the streets of Houston in 2017, monster trucks were some of the only vehicles that could navigate through the high waters.
They rescued an elderly woman with her two dogs.
They picked up another person who was going into labor.
So Dr. Monster Truck.
And they even rescued the National Guard troops whose own rescue vehicles got stuck.
OK, that's good.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
That was fast and furious.
Yeah.
Archer, what stood out to you about this micro round?
I mean, there was a lot of digs thrown both ways, I gotta say.
The Dockster truck fact was interesting.
Like, the monster truck saving lives was pretty cool.
Never seen a Hot Wheels truck do that.
But on the other side of the coin, I feel like, if you're going to be talking about how family-friendly monster truck rallies are like, you know what's even more family-friendly.
Playing by yourself with a little car?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love playing by myself with a little car.
Without your family?
Yeah.
Yeah, just leave your family alone.
That's true.
Foster your imagination.
I do like that.
Which side of my loyalties lie?
Who knows?
This is tough.
I think you're going one way, then you throw it in reverse and go the other way.
Exactly.
Archer is keeping us on our toes.
Yeah.
Okay, it's time to award a point, but don't tell us who it's going to.
Have you made your decision?
I have.
Then it's time for our third round, the super stealthy... Sneak Attack.
This is our improvised round where debaters have to respond to a challenge on the spot.
Today's sneak attack is called Style Sense.
If your side had a fashion line, what would it be called and what would the aesthetic be?
These are two fashionable cars, but we want to know how you would translate that into fashionable looks.
Mark and Sandin, does that make sense?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Got it.
Totally.
I'm ready.
All right.
So, Mark, you are up first.
Let's hear about your fashion for Monster Trucks.
Monster truck fashion is going to sweep the nation this holiday season and beyond, because monster trucks are teaming up with Chuck Taylor Converse.
And you guessed it.
They're going to be having monster chucks.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
These are shoes with, you know, every single monster truck you've ever heard of.
The Bigfoot, Gravedigger, all these huge monster trucks.
And you can push a button and you get.
Not only just like those little skate wheels that pop out, but you get like giant four-wheel drive monster wheels, monster truck wheels that you can just like go crush your bus with.
The most dangerous fashion.
The most dangerous fashion.
But, you know, monster trucks and Chuck Taylors.
Monster chucks.
Do they make car noises?
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
I left out the obvious fact because I figured everybody would know.
But you're right.
I should say they do make... generous car noises based on every truck.
And there's actually one special box that it comes in a variety of sizes, but there's only one in each size and it shoots flames.
Whoa!
Yeah, nice.
Okay, Mark, I want to know, these... looks sound amazing, but dangerous.
Do you need like a special permit to wear the shoes?
Yeah, I think you can probably, you can only wear them like in the desert with nobody.
Maybe, maybe.
Someone's going to be like, pants on fire.
And they're like, I'm not telling a lie.
And they're like, no, literally your pants are on fire.
Your shoes keep shooting out flames.
No, I was ready to invest in this, but like, I can't, I can't wear these like around, you know, I just don't, don't know if it's worth it for me.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Sandon, please tell us about your fashion line for Hot Wheels.
Oh my gosh.
Darling, this is a whole Hot Wheels fashion moment, okay?
Not only does the outfit start with a hat wheels.
That's a little hat you put on that looks like a wheel, but we've also walking you around in your hot heels, which are really tall heels that are that signature orange track color.
And some of the dresses, they got this metallic sheen to them.
But You can dunk them in water and they'll change color, just like some of the classic Hot Wheels of our day.
They've all got pockets to store your cars in.
You cruise on down the runway in these and they've all got flames on the side.
Painted.
I'm not trying to burn you.
I mean, who would want clothing that burned you?
And these hot outfits are going to be hot accessories.
They're going to be the future of fashion.
Die cast metal so you can spill on them and everything will slide right off.
You look amazing in Hot Wheels.
Sorry, the dress is die-cast metal?
I mean, like, you know, a thin die-cast metal, you know, a breathable die-cast metal.
That's a thing, right?
That is, yep.
You can't sit down in it, but it's very cool.
It's cool.
Yeah, if you want to walk around like the Tin Man.
Look, it's for leaning.
It's for strategic, cool leaning.
The orange hot heels should also like, double like.
If you take your foot out of them, they also double the Hot Wheels track.
Oh, yeah.
And maybe there's a little Hot Wheel that shoots out of them, you know, when you step.
Like one of those little launchers.
Every time you step, it launches the Hot Wheels car.
Your opponents will be falling all over the place.
We are at the cutting edge of fashion here.
Two incredible fashion lines, but Archer, only one of them. can get a point.
Think about which side impressed you the most and award your fourth point, but don't tell us who it's going to.
Have you made your decision?
Yeah.
Perfect.
Then it's time for our final round.
The final six.
In this round, each team will have just six words to sum up the glory of their side.
Sandon, let's hear your six words for the heroic Hot Wheels.
Fire in your hand, Hot Wheels.
Ooh.
Ooh, very nice.
All right, Mark, it's your turn.
Please give us your six words for the magnificent Monster Trucks.
Imagination all grown up.
Yeah!
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Incredible.
Okay, Archer, it is time to award a final point for this final six.
Have you made your decision?
It is done.
Oh, wonderful.
All right, tally up those points.
Are you ready to crown one team the Smash Boom best?
I was born ready.
Okay.
Drumroll, please.
And the winner is... Monster Trucks!
Yeah, buddy!
Right in the engine.
Okay, Archer, was there a moment that decided things for you?
Was it the final six that did it?
The final six got me, honestly.
Like, I was like, oh, yeah, normal, normal sentence.
Yeah, buddy!
It's always the classic Final Six, you know.
I almost gave Monster Trucks the sneak attack, but honestly, just the sheer genius of the hat wheels.
I'm just like, how does one come up with the hat wheels?
I mean, and then if you get a flat tire, you've got a spare on your head, you know?
You're there to save the day.
Monster Trucks got the rebuttal point because, I mean, just...
Just like that cold finisher of, like, it ends in a terrible crash.
Ooh.
Amazing.
Anyway, congrats, everybody.
Round of applause.
Yay!
Thank you, Archer.
Sandon, I really enjoyed this debate because I am a big Hot Wheels fan.
And a Monster Truck fan.
I'm a fan of both, and it was hard for me to argue against Hot Wheels because I know that they have so much in common.
But you did a really great job.
I did love your fashion.
That was my favorite.
You really brought it with the whole ensemble.
Oh, yeah.
Mark, I just have two words for you.
Yeah, buddy!
I can't wait to go to the next Monster Truck Rally with you, friend.
Woo!
We're going to bring earplugs.
Am I invited?
Of course.
Everyone, bring your Hot Wheels.
Thank you.
Come on down.
Well, that is it for today's debate battle.
Archer crowned monster trucks the Smash Boom best, but what about you?
Head to smashboom.org and vote to tell us who you think won.
This episode was produced by me, Molly Bloom, and Anna Wegel.
We had sound design by Mark Sanchez, and he also wrote the killer theme song.
We had engineering help from Matt Graff.
Our announcer is Marlee Feuerwerker-Otto, and we want to give a special thanks to Austin Cross and Taylor Kaufman.
Mark, is there anyone you'd like to shout out today?
Yeah, I'd like to shout out Coco and Vicky and my dog Ella and Mr Bob Chandler and Venture Bigfoot and the one and only great Anna Wagle.
Of course.
And how about you, Sandon?
Any special shout outs?
Oh, yeah.
I want to shout out my son Felix, who is really getting into cars and helped me prepare for this debate by playing cars with me for the last four years.
And also, I want to...
I want to give a big shout out to you and Mark and me for being back.
Smash Room Best is back, an independent baby.
Yes.
And Archer, how about you?
Any special thanks or shout outs?
I've been thinking about this moment for like four years, for like what I would say.
Shout out to my darling angel cat, Violet.
Shout out to my dad for signing me up for this and like doing all the work and driving me here.
He's in the lobby right now.
A shout out to my friend Sophie, who is probably listening to this also because she's a fan of the podcast.
Also my mom.
And my brother, who I'm surprising by being in this episode.
Again, I kept it a secret from him this entire time.
And he's been like, oh my God, wait, are you sure I'm smashing the best now?
And yes, I am.
Incredible.
That's so fun.
Before we go, let's check in and see who Jacqueline thinks should win the swimming versus running debate.
I personally think that swimming would win the Because I'm not good at running.
Thank you.
Bye.
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We'll be back next week with a new Smash Boom best episode, babies versus puppies.
Ta-ta.
All right, guys.
Shifting into second gear.
See you later.
Bye, money.
Vroom, vroom. goodness.
Cut this out, Molly.
Cut all of this.
I have derailed myself.
Don't you dare cut any of this.
Not a single second.
