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[From 'Relation Shopping' to 'Relation Shipping': Redefining Long-term Compatibility]-[Moment 155: The "Post Date 8" Questions You Need To Ask To Find 'The One' - Logan Ury]

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · B2 · 2024-03-29

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📋 Summary

Moving Beyond the Checklist: A New Approach to Dating

In modern dating, many individuals approach finding a partner with a mentality Logan describes as "relation shopping." Much like browsing an e-commerce site for a specific product, people create exhaustive "shopping lists" detailing physical attributes—such as hair color, height, or ethnicity—and superficial qualities. Logan argues that this evaluative, interview-style approach is fundamentally flawed because it prioritizes static, external traits over the dynamic reality of a partnership.

The Fallacy of the Checklist

Logan highlights that the desire to "maximize" one's partner search often leads to self-sabotage. People frequently make incorrect assumptions, such as believing they must date someone whose "parents are together" or someone who shares their exact personality. These rigid criteria often exclude potentially excellent partners. Instead, Logan advocates for "dating like a scientist"—being willing to date someone who is "not your type in your head" to see if the relationship yields a different, more successful result. The goal is to shift from seeking a partner who looks good on paper to finding someone who brings out the best version of yourself.

The "Post-Date Eight": Shifting from Evaluation to Experience

To break the habit of the "checklist mindset," Logan introduces the "Post-Date Eight," a series of questions to ask oneself after a date. Rather than asking, "Are they ambitious enough?" or "Are they good looking enough?", these questions focus on the experiential mindset:

  • Did we laugh together?
  • Do I feel desired?
  • Do they make me feel more energized?
  • What side of me do they bring out?

This framework acts as a training tool, similar to a gratitude journal, which overrides the impulse to evaluate the other person as a commodity. By focusing on how one feels in the other person's presence, individuals can identify whether a potential partner is a "secure person" rather than someone who triggers an "anxious avoidant loop."

Challenging the "Spark" and Embracing the "Slow Burn"

Logan introduces the motto "fuck the spark," challenging the obsession with immediate, explosive chemistry. He suggests that the "spark" often leads to relationships that "burn out," whereas the "slow burn"—a connection that grows over time with a secure individual—is a much stronger indicator of long-term success. By using the Post-Date Eight, individuals can track if their interest is "trending upwards" after each interaction, training the brain to prioritize sustained connection over initial fireworks.

Debunking Relationship Myths: Adaptation and Compatibility

Logan addresses common misconceptions regarding what makes a relationship work:

  1. Looks and Money: While these factors have value, humans suffer from "adaptation." Research shows that people adapt to their circumstances, meaning that extreme wealth or physical beauty does not guarantee long-term happiness. Over-optimizing for these traits is often a waste of effort.
  2. Shared Hobbies and Personalities: Many people mistakenly believe they need to find a "personality twin." Logan points out that two "larger than life" personalities can be exhausting. Instead, he suggests looking for someone who complements you. A partner who acts as a "home base" can be the perfect balance for someone who is the "energizing wild part" of the relationship.

Ultimately, the shift from "relation shopping" to "relation shipping" is about putting in the work to build a life together rather than simply searching for a pre-packaged ideal. It is about focusing on the quality of the interaction and the person you become when you are with them.

🎯Key Sentences

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I'm going to run these things past you and get your thoughts.
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I think it works for you.
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So rarely does that ever work out.
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You're making all of these assumptions that are wrong.
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The better attitude is to date like a scientist.
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📝Key Phrases

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run something past someone
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bring out the best in someone
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tune into
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work out
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good on paper
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📖 Transcript

Some of the things that I used to go for when I was younger, when I was looking for a perfect partner, I would be able to reel off things like, I want this colour hair and I want them to look like this and I want this, this, this, this.
It was like a shopping list.
Like Apple's plums, it was like everything was on there.
As I got a little bit older and I did a little bit of hindsight research on what I was actually looking for, the list reduced and it became more about fundamental things.
And I got down to these three things I thought, you need in a partner to be happy.
I'm going to run these things past you and get your thoughts.

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