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[Rediscovering Joy: The Importance of Knowing What You Are Into]-[Know what you're into ]

Before Breakfast · B1 · 2026-05-01

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Rediscovering Joy: The Importance of Knowing What You Are Into

In a world dominated by adult responsibilities and endless commitments, it is remarkably easy to lose sight of the activities that truly spark joy. This episode of the Before Breakfast podcast, hosted by Laura Vanderkam, serves as a gentle yet profound reminder that reclaiming our leisure time begins with a simple, intentional act: knowing what you are into.

The Shift from Passion to Obligation

Vanderkam observes that children are experts at identifying their passions. Whether it is "playing Minecraft," "earning Girl Scout badges," or "doing gymnastics," children can effortlessly reel off a list of interests. However, as we transition into adulthood, we often prioritize our "commitments" at the expense of our "interests." While the host acknowledges that focusing on responsibilities is necessary, she argues that this should not result in "giving up on our interests." The goal is to balance the demands of life with activities that are "intrinsically enjoyable."

The Challenge: Listing Your Top 10

To bridge the gap between our current routines and our potential for happiness, Vanderkam issues a specific challenge: create a list of 10 activities you are truly into. She emphasizes that this list should not be composed of tasks you "have to do," but rather things you "would look forward to" and "genuinely enjoy" while engaging in them.

This exercise is designed to help individuals curate their leisure time effectively. The list serves as a compass for those moments of unexpected freedom. For instance, if you have "an hour at night after the kids go to bed," having a pre-defined interest—such as "needlepoint," "reading a book of poetry," or "yoga"—ensures that time is spent meaningfully rather than lost to aimless scrolling or indecision.

Strategies for Self-Discovery

If the task of listing interests feels daunting, Vanderkam offers several practical strategies:

  • Reflect on Childhood: Our "childhood passions" often provide the most accurate roadmap to the pursuits we would still enjoy in adulthood.
  • Brainstorm with Peers: Engaging with a friend can be transformative. By "taking turns coming up with ideas," you can have your "thinking inspired by the other person," leading to breakthroughs you might not have reached alone.
  • Look for Micro-Joys: Consider the small, specific things that delight you, such as a favorite "coffee shop," a "particular drink," or even the joy found in spending time with a "niece or nephew."

The Social and Practical Benefits

Beyond personal fulfillment, knowing what you are into has significant social advantages. It enhances "small talk" and makes it easier for friends and acquaintances to connect with you. If people are aware of your passions—whether it is "traveling," "painting," or "learning Spanish"—they are more likely to engage you in meaningful conversation. As Vanderkam notes, "they can't know these things if you don't know these things."

Conclusion

Ultimately, the act of identifying your interests is a form of self-respect. It ensures that when the opportunity for leisure arises, you are not left wondering what to do. By knowing what you are into, you become an active participant in your own happiness, ready to "make the most of our time" rather than simply letting it slip away. Take the challenge today: list those 10 things, and you will find yourself much better prepared for the leisure time that tomorrow brings.

🎯Key Sentences

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Today's tip is to know what you're into.
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Now, don't get me wrong.
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Following their leads, I would challenge you to try to list 10 activities you are into.
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The first step is to know what you're into, because once you know what you're into, finding time for the activities will come more naturally.
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If you are having trouble listing activities you are into, try brainstorming with a friend.
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📝Key Phrases

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reel off
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lose sight of
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don't get me wrong
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follow someone's lead
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look forward to
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