This is an All Ears English podcast, episode 93, how to end an English conversation in five ways.
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Hey there, Aubrey.
How's it going?
Great.
Hey, you want to get a coffee sometime?
I would love to.
When are we going to do that?
Let's put a date on the calendar.
Let's get a date on the calendar.
You know, you guys will remember from last week's episode, go back and listen if you missed it.
We talked about how sometimes natives will say, maybe we could get a coffee sometime or let's hang out sometime, and they don't actually mean it.
They're just ending the conversation and saying goodbye.
And we're going to build on that today by giving you five more ways that you can end an English conversation.
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Okay.
So like Aubrey said, we did talk a little bit about that sometime, that very subtle cue.
So you can go back and listen to that episode.
That was episode 92.
But today we're going to give you five ways that you can really end that conversation in English, right?
Yes, exactly.
So here's the first one.
I really love this.
It's just to say it was great talking to you or it was really nice talking to you.
I love when people say this to me.
It makes me feel heard like they enjoyed the conversation.
I enjoyed the conversation because I don't think anyone ever says this and doesn't mean it.
No one would say this as a lie.
There's so many other ways to say goodbye.
Right.
That when you say this to someone, you really mean it.
You enjoyed the conversation.
Yeah, this feels refreshingly genuine.
And it does feel very like.
Look in your eyes, smile and say hey, I really enjoyed having a conversation with you.
It Feels good.
I like that.
Yeah, I agree, Aubrey.
Yeah.
So, especially if you did enjoy a conversation with someone and you want to chat with them soon, I definitely recommend this as a way to end the conversation, to tell them say it was really great talking to you today.
Yeah, this is good.
And then the next one is very different, right?
Very, very different.
And this would be kind of the last thing you might say to someone, as you've given a hug you, whatever you've, you've said goodbye.
You say get home safe or get home safely.
Do you say this sometimes?
I do, except I feel like I almost always say drive safe, because someone will be leaving and they're about to get in their car.
And I don't know if it's a cultural thing, but the last thing I'll say to them, like before I shut their car door, before they get in the car, I'll say drive safe.
Yeah, I mean, that's probably cultural depending on where you live.
I think this phrase is more common when you live in the cities, you don't drive, right?
Walk home, take the subway home is what I was thinking when we wrote this.
But yeah, either one would work, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
If you're living in the city and you know they're going to take the subway, you'd say, all right, get home safe.
And then if you know, they're about to get in their car, you'd say drive safe.
I think this is good.
This one's very straightforward.
It just shows that you care about the person and you don't want them to get in any trouble on the way home.
Yeah, this is one of those.
It's funny because you get in such patterns of saying things that there have been times where I'll like leave a park and we both came, maybe with a stroller, with kids, and you go to leave and I'll be like drive safe, And then you look at each other like that was awkward because I'm walking away.
No, are you saying when you say goodbye and then you walk together for like 10 blocks?
Yeah.
That's a classic awkward.
I know.
Or last week, it was a Tuesday.
Jessica and I were recording and I said, have a nice weekend.
Then we just laughed because it was Tuesday.
Right, right, right.
That is so awkward.
Oh, man.
You just get used to saying sort of certain things when you're about to say goodbye or sign off.
And then sometimes you realize they weren't appropriate for that situation.
So this is a good point that you guys don't worry about making mistakes with these, because natives do it too.
And then just laugh about it.
Right.
Or sometimes there's weird quirks.
Like I say, take care.
I have to admit, I do say that more often than you know, Aubrey.
But you have a weird thing about that.
I know I mentioned this in a previous episode that my husband and I have this funny joke where anyone who says take care, we make this joke like they threatened us.
We're like, did you hear her threaten me?
She said take care.
Take care meaning be safe, like don't get hurt right, I'm coming for you.
It's just Funny.
So now you have to be careful not to say take care to me.
I'm definitely going to say it all the time.
You end emails with that a lot.
I do.
Take care.
Oh, my gosh.
No, but because to me, when I say that, it means more like be well.
It means be well.
But be well sounds very, I don't know.
For me it sounds kind of stupid, snobbish or something.
I'm not sure how it feels.
Oh yeah, a little posh.
Yeah no, take care is very appropriate.
You guys can totally stay, take care.
I don't even know where that joke came from, we just thought it was so funny.
But yeah, it's a very appropriate and kind of a it's like not quite so polished and yeah, slightly less polished.
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All right.
So then let's go back to the confusing way to end a conversation, right?
That we taught you in the last episode, which is, oh, I skipped one, didn't I?
I skipped it.
Let's see.
Let's teach this one.
Then we'll go back to the other.
Okay.
Yes.
So you could say, maybe we could get a coffee sometime, or maybe we could go for a walk sometime.
Usually be careful with this.
As we said before, this may not mean a genuine invitation.
Yes.
And then I really love this with whatever you were chatting about, right?
If they shared something new they're doing at work or for a hobby that you could say I'd love to hear more about, and then name it right.
Show that you heard them.
Show that you were interested, right?
I'd love to hear more.
I'd love to see one of your paintings.
I'd love to hear more about your new hobby. hobby, you know, whatever it is.
And then you could say like, would you like to get a copy?
Yeah.
And now you're actually making plans because you want to chat with them more about it.
Yeah.
We know for sure that that's not just a conversation ending.
That's making the plans, right?
So if you hear that, it's a lot more thought that's gone into that.
So that's a genuine thing.
You could follow up on a time and place.
Yes.
And if it is less formal, you could still say, like you know, I'd love to hear more about this new job you just got.
Let's get together sometime.
And you're not going to make plans right then.
But you're still.
It's just such a great way to say goodbye to, sort of name, what you were just chatting about.
Yeah, I love it.
And then we have one more before we finish up today's episode.
You can say I'll follow up next week.
I'll follow up with you.
Now, do you feel like this one is just for business or for business in life?
Follow up.
The only time I would use this.
If I were chatting with someone that we were on some kind of committee, like for a volunteer project or a school project, and we had made plans, talked about certain details of something, then I could definitely say that like oh, I'll follow up with you next week because we sort of have business together even though we're not at work.
So in that way, you can use that in casual conversations.
But it's more you're referring to specific details of some kind that you're going to chat about.
Yeah, I think that's the key.
I think you're engaged with this person in some kind of project, some kind of.
You're making something.
You're creating something, you're on some kind of committee.
That's why it works really well at work about a meeting, setting up a meeting or something.
But like you said, a volunteer project with another person, that would work in that case.
But it's only for specific situations like that.
Yep, exactly.
It would be very strange for you to say that to someone if you don't have some kind of project you're working on together.
Yeah.
That's definitely more of a specific use.
Yeah, that would be weird.
So the point is, guys, you're following up on something.
That's the key.
What is the thing or is it the project?
Is it the making, I don't know, making clothing for a community?
Is it some business meeting?
Is it some presentation you're working on?
It has to be something you're following up on.
Exactly right.
That phrase follow up.
It implies that there's something specific you need to talk about later, right?
You're not going to use it.
It doesn't just mean talk.
It's a very specific meaning.
Exactly.
I love it.
I think we could do another episode.
I'm getting a lot of new episode ideas today, Aubrey.
I hope you're taking notes.
I'm taking notes.
I'm taking notes.
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All right, Aubrey, have a good day.
I'm not going to say take care.
I'm going to say have a good one.
Don't say take care.
No threats.
All right.
All right.
See you, Lindsay.
Bye.
Bye.
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