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Hey, it's Mariel. When Whitney Bay was growing up in Illinois and her mom would tell her, go outside and play.
She knew what that meant.
Play for us was going outside, climbing trees.
It was making mud pies.
It was, we used to like reenact a lot of like current events, like the Olympics, the 1996 Olympics, I believe.
The 1996 Olympics were an iconic moment for young girls.
The dream team for for us, was made up of gymnasts.
Dominique Mochiano, Carrie Strug.
We little ones were obsessed.
We'd set up, like, this little bench, and I'd run and I'd, like, jump over it like it's a vault.
And it's literally just, like, a sitting bench. So just, like, use our imagination.
And it was fun. It really felt, I mean, of course it wasn't real, but it just, it felt like I was somebody.
Like a lot of kids, Whitney was fluent in play.
You probably have an idea of what play is.
is. But here's a definition I think really rings true.
I define play as any joyful act where you forget about time.
It's where you're like fully immersed in the moment.
It's when you're your you -est you.
That's Jeff Harry. He's a play coach. Companies hire him to get their employees to play more.
I like to say I make work suck less because work sucks right now and it really doesn't have And he says play looks different depending on who you are.
It could be whitewater rafting or pickleball.
It could be making a podcast. It could be cooking.
As adults, we often stop playing.
Sometimes we even forget how to do it.
Dr. Stuart Brown, a play researcher and physician psychiatrist by training, says that is a problem because play is a central part of our existence.
It's as basic as sleep and nutrition.
It just doesn't necessarily produce the same outcome as hunger or fatigue.
But the need to play is there in all of us, and we all have deficits when we don't experience it sufficiently.
Sufficiently. On this episode of Life Kit, why we should play as adults and how to do it.
We'll help you figure out what feels like play to you using the concept of play personalities and how to work it into your life, even if you don't have a lot of free time.
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First off, you should know that humans are not the only animals that play.
Obviously, domesticated animals like dogs and cats do it.
But so do bears, and leopards, and bison, and ravens, and dolphins, and the list goes on.
And from an evolutionary perspective, play might not make sense at first. It often seems to have no purpose, and it can come at a cost. You know, it uses up energy, and it can can even be dangerous.
But animal play scholars and biologists argue that play does serve a number of purposes, that it can help us adapt to difficult circumstances, to practice skills that we need to survive, to problem solve, and to collaborate.
Stuart Brown, whose voice you heard just before the break, says there's a lot of research on how animals play, and also on how humans play when we're kids, but there aren't as many studies on play in adult humans, for now at least. We have I've learned a lot, though, from watching other social animals.
For example, there's research on rats, who are highly playful creatures.
The researcher prevented them from playing, and then after watched them run a maze and also socialize with other rats.
The play -deficient rats have the inability to socialize as well as those who have played, so that play itself is seen as a necessity for rat health and rat pack socialization.
He says the same seems to be true for humans and other social animals.
As you can see, there are a lot of reasons you might want to incorporate more play into your life.
Also, come on, feels good, right?
So let's move on to the how portion of this episode And get back to Whitney Bay, our make -believe Olympic gymnast. Classic story.
She grew up and she learned from the world that her playfulness was inappropriate.
Whitney studied engineering in college.
And when she graduated, she went to work for an engineering firm in Seoul.
They were, like, kind of pushing me, hey, you need to be more serious.
Like, don't be so funny, goofy.
Like, this is a serious workplace.
Be more serious. So you would get that feedback, like, at the office?
All the time. Every day.
my boss would be like, you're laughing too loud.
And I was like, it's funny.
I can't help it. Or they'd be like, oh, your clothes are too bright.
You know, these kinds of things.
And I was like, I feel like I'm losing myself.
Whitney's talking about a concept that psychologists call the inner child.
There is an aspect of you that knows what you want, that has always known what you want.
your kid self knows what makes you happy.
Your kid self knows what makes you fulfilled and satisfied.
So takeaway one, figure out your play style by getting in touch with your inner child.
Let's start with a question that Jeff shared.
What were your favorite ways to play as a kid?
Were you super into Legos or erector sets, finger painting, make -believe, catching fireflies, seeing how far you could catapult yourself off the swing set?
For me, it was Barbies.
Hello Barbie, let's go for a drive.
I love to dress them up in the coolest fashions and also create storylines for them.
They'd be in love triangles filled with passion and betrayal.
Tonight's the school dance.
Okay, so then you're going to think about what kind of play that is.
What's at the center of it?
One framework that can help you is called play personalities.
Stuart Brown lays these out in his book.
In his decades as a psychiatrist, he would ask patients about their early experiences with play.
He and his colleagues would review the notes, and they noticed some archetypes.
So that there is a kind of a play fingerprint that I would call the play personality that emerges.
It's not scientific.
This is not something that we're measuring with a series of neurotransmitters.
But it's a clustering of what really gives you a sense of joy and engagement Here are a few examples, and you can be more than one of these.
There's the joker, who loves to laugh and make other people laugh.
Whether that's through practical jokes, wordplay, physical comedy.
There's the artist -creator.
The point for this person is to make something.
Could be something beautiful, something functional, something goofy.
As Barbie's personal stylist, my inner child definitely fell into this category.
You've got the kinesthete, who finds joy in movement.
Swimming, running, stretching.
You've got the director.
They love to call the shots to plan the parties.
One of the people that we picked out that's a celebrity director is Oprah.
Also, the storyteller.
Hi. Hello. Those relational dramas between my Barbies?
Classic storyteller behavior.
Once you have a sense of your play personality as a kid, you can start to think of ways you might like to play now.
For my artist -creator side, I put together a gallery wall of art behind my couch. For the storyteller, I watch shows with storylines filled with love and betrayal, like Grey's Anatomy.
Another way to find out what kind of play is for you is to listen to the whispers, and this is takeaway two.
Jeff Harry says, think for a moment about what we started doing when we were stuck at home during the pandemic with nothing to do.
We picked up hobbies, baking sourdough bread, doing embroidery, catering, woodworking.
And that was in part because we were bored.
His challenge for you, for five or ten minutes a day, put down your phone and your laptop and do nothing.
When you get bored, all of a sudden, that inner child starts to whisper all these nerve -sided ideas, these ideas that make you nervous and excited, you know, ideas like, hey, you know, why don't you start writing that book or that blog post?
Why don't you you make a video on TikTok.
Whitney heard the whispers when she was working at that engineering job in Seoul.
They were telling her to travel and to start her own YouTube channel.
And those videos got a lot of good feedback, and so I just kept going.
She started doing improv in Korea, and then in 2019, she moved to New York to pursue a career in comedy.
And she loves it. So, like, I'm on the stage and someone sets me up to be a rat that can do karate.
So I'm on the stage and I'm doing karate as a rat.
Just, like, very imaginative.
Just things I would probably never really do on my own.
So, yeah, I find, like, now I go in these wacky worlds and I just follow the fun.
Sometimes smaller, less world -shifting opportunities for play will present themselves.
ourselves I was at this event one time and I was deciding what to do did I want to drink did I want to go to another panel was I ready to leave and then I saw that someone was selling coconuts they'd chop off the top and stick a straw in and I was like that that's what I want so I got one I told Jeff this story I love that story so much because what you did in the moment you're like what will bring me joy right now you just walked on over to that but then I'm walking around around happy as a coconut and people started talking to me one woman with the cool silver boots complimented my drink we
chatted and exchanged info and she even held my coconut when I went to the bathroom and that's the thing doing what's calling you in a given moment can lead to connection because people think oh she looks so happy I want to be around that type of energy so the advice here do the things that you find interesting and watch what adventure shows up Okay.
So we're listening to our inner child.
We're following the whispers.
We're starting to play.
At this point, we may hear from our inner critic.
Takeaway three, talk to it.
Jeff Harry says your inner critic is that voice inside you telling you why you shouldn't do that thing and saying that you look ridiculous when you play.
You're like feeling crappy.
You're binge watching Netflix.
you got popcorn, you're just dribbling down and you're just like, oh, I'm the worst person in the world.
And then you were like, oh my goodness, there's my inner critic.
One exercise that can help, write down what your inner critic is saying, or visualize what it looks like and sounds like.
Does it sound like that bully from third grade?
Who's that inner critic?
So get a visual and then name it.
And mine is Gargamel from Smurfs.
Gargamel would always love to suck all the the joy and play out of everything, right?
And literally when Gargamel shows up, I write down what it's saying.
And then once you write the insults down, cross them out and write the opposite.
So it's like, I'm never going to be enough.
And then I write, you are going to be enough.
Oh, I'm never going to be successful.
Actually, you're already successful and you're going to even be more successful.
And you cross those out and put the positive of that and you start reading those back to yourself.
And this is a positive psychology technique.
It's just pattern recognition in many ways.
You can do this in the middle of play.
Your inner critic pops up and says, this is such a waste of time.
And you're like, OK, thank you, inner critic.
I appreciate you. But I'm playing with my inner child right now.
And actually, this is a great use of my time.
OK, takeaway four, liberate yourself.
Stuart Brown poses a question in his book.
When have you felt free to do and be what you choose?
Was there a moment, was there a circumstance, was there a situation that allowed you to really feel like you were yourself, whether you were four years old or 40?
Why are we talking about freedom?
Because play and freedom are interwoven.
When you're doing something simply for the end result, like to achieve, you lose a part of the joy of being alive.
It's easy to lose a sense of an experience which is in itself wondrous by demanding that the experience produce outcome.
When you're playing and you're not so attached to the outcome, that gives you the freedom to wonder, to be in awe, to learn for the sake of learning.
So in addition to that question above about when you felt free, also ask yourself, what stands in the way of you feeling free now?
Is your environment unsafe?
Is your job constantly in jeopardy?
Is your partner always critical of you?
That is all legitimate.
And for many, many people living in a violent neighborhood, being impoverished, having physical illness, this is not to make life just fun and games and play.
It's not. Life is challenging for all of us.
But the play nature that we have usually allows us to find within our lives, even in very difficult lives, moments of joyfulness.
And that's takeaway five.
Find your moments. Look, I get it.
You may feel like you barely have time in the day to sit down, let alone play.
But playtime doesn't have to mean spending hours every day making sandcastles.
Though, I'm kind of into that idea.
You can inject play throughout the day.
Whitney Bay was at a restaurant with her parents this one time.
And my rule is at a restaurant, everybody puts away their phones.
She taught them how to play this game, where the first person says who they are, the second person says where they are, and the third person says what they're doing.
Like if I say, oh, we are farmers, then you have to say where we are.
And so my mom would, you know, be thinking like, okay, I'm a farmer, where am I?
And just kind of using her imagination.
destination we are farmers and we are at walmart you could say anything and then maybe the third person is like okay we're farmers at walmart and we are shopping for bikinis and you do a little scene like if you're like hey farmer joe that's a nice hot pink bikini you got on and so on it was only like 10 minutes and our food came out and that was into that but to this day we still talk about that we're like well remember when my dad did this and my mom did that like we still still talk about that fun moment that we had.
You can also find moments of play by just letting yourself be playful, even for 30 seconds.
Pet a puppy on the street, with permission.
Pick up a pine cone at the park and ask your friend to name it.
Watch people flirting on your subway car.
Stewart said that on the morning of our interview, he walked out of his house to get his copy of the New York Times.
And there on the step in front of me was a little Oregon Junko.
And that little Oregon Junko was looking up at me and jumping up and down and jumping up and down.
And I thought, that little bird is really glad to be alive.
Okay, so am I. I'm an old guy, but I'm still still glad to be alive.
So I got from the immediate surroundings a sense from nature that, you know, at least that moment was a joyful one.
Okay, it's time for a recap.
Figure out your play style or personality.
You can start by asking, how did I like to play as a kid, and how can I incorporate that form of play into my life now?
Also, follow the whispers.
Whether you're at a job you hate or at an event unsure of what to do next, listen to that voice that's saying, go get a coconut.
Engage with your inner critic.
Give it a name. Mine's called Doreen.
She is the worst. And when she starts yapping and telling me that I look ridiculous, I tell her she's wrong.
Think about what makes you feel free.
And by that we mean, think of a time when you felt free to do and be as you choose.
What stands in the way of that now?
Lastly, find moments of play whenever you can.
Sorry, I was just thinking of something else silly that I did this morning, but it's too silly to tell you.
Good for you. Well, don't hesitate to share it.
Okay, so like I don't know if you'll know this song.
I think it's like a song from the 80s, but it's like, Like, we got the beat.
You know that one? No, I don't, but I'm a couple generations older than you.
I got food groceries delivered, and I got beats.
And so as I took out the bag of beats, I just started singing, we got the beats.
And I was alone in my house.
Good for you. But I was like, we got the beats.
Well, you felt better when you sung it.
after all you were singing it.
I really did. See, that's part of the magic of play itself.
All of a sudden, you feel better.
Why? Why does play do that?
Why do we have that in us?
And since it's in us, why don't we use it more?
Good question. For more Life Kit, check out our other episodes.
We've got one on rest as a form of resistance and another on the power of fun.
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Megan Cain is our senior supervising editor and Beth Donovan is our executive producer.
Our production team also includes Andy Tegel, Claire Marie Schneider and Sylvie Douglas.
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