Two people claim to know everything about something, but only one knows anything.
We're renaming the show. Wait, why? Disney.
They better give us free Epcot. Big Fit!
That's now our name! The Big Fit! Show's still the same!
The Big Fit! Let's play the game! The Big Fit!
We're still on fire, bustin' iron! From Slippin' Arkansas, it's the Big Fib!
Wait. What? The Big Fib? Am I on the wrong podcast?
No, no. It's the new name of the podcast, Lisa.
Disney made a TV version of our game show.
So exciting. And now we are all with the big fib.
Oh, that's super exciting. We're going to be on TV.
Oh, not exactly. Not so much. We are on our podcast, but there'll be new hosts for the TV version.
Oh. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. They're funeral. Just tell me they got different people playing us.
I'm guessing I'm being played by Zac Efron.
Ooh. No, no one's gonna play you exactly.
It's just a version of that. Wait a minute, Zac Efron.
Do you really think you would be played by Zac Efron?
Uh, yeah. We both have the same sharp jawline and dreamy eyes.
I mean, I guess unless you think Zack is a little too babyface to convince the audience of my intelligent, brooding demeanor.
Lisa, you'll just have to watch the show for yourself, but Zack Efron?
You're right, Deborah. There's no way people would believe him as me.
I'll have to do the casting myself. When are the auditions?
Ooh, well, see, the show is already shot, Lisa.
It's out in the world and you can find it. the big fib on Disney+.
Anyway, I know the name change can be a little confusing, but I promise that's all that we're changing.
Our podcast where kids choose between the controlled and precise execution of truth and the sloppy, imbalanced tumble of lies is still the same.
I'm still very much your host Deborah Goldstein and beside me in the studio as always is our sound effects robot Lisa whose name still stands for live in studio audience.
Cool, I get to keep my name. I really like my name.
We should change your name though. I like my name.
Sure, you're just used to it, I bet. What about Veronica Skylight?
You could be like a mystery spy and that people would respect you.
Well, I can't... I feel like people respect me already.
It's a cool name, truly, but really just Debragold's team.
Fine, I'm gonna get rid of this Corvette that I got the Veronica Skylight license plate for your launch.
Thanks for the suggestion, Lisa. I will think about it.
For now, can you please tell us how our game works?
Ah sure, here's how the big fit works. New show, new rules, every week we have. one kid who is raised in a farm and they ride in on their cow.
And they say, Hi everybody! Well that sounds like an interesting show but in fact that is not our show and it's still the same show!
Fine! Every week we bring on two grown-ups.
One is an expert, the other is a liar. And it's the job of a human child to help us figure out who is who, because no one can spot a liar better than a child.
Alright, what are we lying about today, Deborah?
We are lying about gymnastics, the sport where athletes use strength and agility to perform acrobatic feats.
Lisa, have you ever tried to do gymnastics?
After much consideration and calculation, I have determined that it would not be in a robot's best interest to perform maneuvers that may result in a broken gear.
That's fair. Just to be clear, I'm certain that I can do just about any move on any piece of equipment.
It's just that the risk as small as it might be is not worth taking.
Given all of my valuable robotic components.
Noted. But I do like watching gymnast fall.
That's terrible. I don't want them to get hurt, Deborah.
I'd just like to remind myself that even though I can do all the moves, it's best not to.
Okay. So you should stick to what you can do like telling us about our contestant today.
Okay. Fair enough. Good point. I got it.
I got it. You don't got to shove it down my throat.
I hear you. Okay. Oh, yeah. Our human child contestant is a 10-year-old who loves reading and doing one handed round-offs, which I could do.
Declan Michaels. Hi Declan. Hi! How are you?
Good. And Lisa, you cannot do that. I could do zero hand round-ups.
I hope you know. That's an aerial. Oh my goodness.
I can do a double aerial. Wow. That's literally impossible.
Yeah, well, take it up with the committee.
It sounds like you know a lot about gymnastics.
I do. I do. Not you. Not you. You do know a lot.
You do gymnastics. Yeah, I. I quit because I had to do the Tuscan show at my school.
But I'm still in the waiting list again.
So you're going to keep going. Yeah, I love that.
That's cool. Well, we want to learn some more things about you, Declan.
So we're going to play two truths and a lie.
You're going to tell us three facts. Two of those facts are going to be true.
One will be a lie and we're going to try to figure out which one is the lie.
Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. I like it. Tell us your three facts.
I had an extra toe. What? I had a lot of homework and I never learned how to ride a bike.
Okay, that toe fact is either true or a brilliant lie.
What do you think Lisa? Did he said Declan to clarify you had one or you have one?
I got taken off when I was a baby, don't worry.
Okay, so he had an extra toe that was removed by a baby.
No. No. I was a baby when it got removed.
Okay. Never learned to ride a bike. What was the other one?
That he has lots of homework. Lots of homework.
Well, yeah, all kids have lots of homework.
And I know for a fact that most kids have an extra toe and they're removed.
When they're babies, I learned that in my What's Up with Humans class.
But I still think that that's a lie. I think he didn't have an extra toe.
Okay, Declan. Which of those is actually the lie?
I have a lot of homework. You had an extra toe?
Yep, and I never wanted to ride bike either.
That's crazy, but you don't remember having an extra toe, do you?
No, no, my mom told me I seen pictures. She's actually kind of cute.
It's kind of cute. Where was it? On his foot.
But like on the top or like where the toes are?
No, no. It was on my pink, it's on my life pinky.
Let's just move on. Let's just move on. Let's not discuss it anymore.
Our first expert is Tammy Page. Please, Tammy introduce yourself to Declan.
Hi, Declan. I'm Tammy Page. Hi. I am a gymnastics coach of Teach Children from the ages 3 to 21.
OK, thank you. And now we'll meet our second expert, Alex Wickpock.
Alex, please introduce yourself to Declan.
Hi, Declan. I'm Alex Wilkoff. I'm a gymnastics instructor.
I run a small school in West Orange, and I am a formerly competitive gymnast.
What are those rhythmic beats, Lisa? Yes, that is correct.
That's when we put our experts on the hot seat while they answer Declan's question.
Lisa, whom should we put on the hot seat first?
I would say Alex Whitkov, because his first and last name have two syllables just like me.
What's your last name? He's cool. I see.
My full name is Lisa. He's cool. Oh, OK.
Good to know. All right. Surprised you didn't know that.
I didn't know. Declan. What is your first question for Alex?
How did you become an expert in what you do?
What kind training and studying did you have to do?
Well, I mean, I started with a pommel horse.
It was kind of my favorite discipline. And then after injury in 99, I just kind of started to open my kind of view for other gymnastic sports.
I'd always kind of been very outgoing and I love working with kids and as I said the kind of competitive nature of gymnastics and pushing yourself mentally and pushing other people it was really great to see what empowers kids to kind of have a sense of self-discipline.
So just being outgoing and kind of having a well-rounded knowledge and basic life experience of being on the road competing. and being around a bunch of other gymnasts, just developing routines and developing a kind of a teaching practice so that I could give kids a start and it's really great to see kids kind of blossom and go from going oh I fell down I didn't I didn't do it right or I didn't make it.
I feel like a lot of kids these days are the ones that come through my classes.
So eager to get everything right the first time that it's really great to show them that there is the ability to fail and then to get back up and try again.
Okay. Tammy. Yes. Do you believe gymnastics is a dangerous sport and why?
Well, wait, first, please don't make it as long as Alex is.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know why.
But it was very good, but that was super long.
I'm so sorry, I felt very strongly. I felt very strongly.
No, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Declan does not have time.
I'm just joking, I'm just joking. Take it as long as you want.
Okay, good. I've seen girls walk out of the gym and break an ankle.
And after they've already done like no hand flips on the balance beam and I mean, anything can happen.
Learning a backhand spring. I'm sure that gon' probably is familiar.
He has gymnastics, but a backhand spring is something that looks really simple.
But if you don't learn the basic steps, it's not smart to skip those steps to learn a backhand spring.
So if you go to a school that's gonna skip those steps, then yes, it becomes a very dangerous sport.
Oh boy, Declan's not gonna be happy with that one.
I try. No, no, it's fine. It's fine. It's okay.
Both of you. Why is the most famous gymnastics trick?
Triple layout, full in, back out. Whoa. Um, okay.
I would say a back in, back out. What's that?
Double Salto with a twist. I would say half cappuccino, double macchiato.
Go ahead. Do you know the core butt flip?
Who are you asking? Um, everybody. Corbett.
Olga Corbett. She was a gymnast from like 1972, 1977.
Yeah, that flip was been because it's super hard.
It's the hardest check on bars. Not anymore.
Hey, what's the hardest trick now? Offhand, I know there's a couple that Simone Biles.
She's got like six different tricks named for her.
Wow, yeah. You mean like the Simone and the Simone and the ooh biles.
That's another one. Those are the names.
Alex. Yes. Who is your role model to you and your field?
Explain why. No, it's not you Lisa. You don't know.
Yes, I'm answered. I would have to say, Blaine Wilson, he and I were very competitive.
I did not make the 96 team for Atlanta, and I just barely made the alternates and He and I just we were constantly in competition and I love him and he did he did a tremendous job, but But yeah, I mean we always just kind of pushed each other I didn't have a lot of role models growing up for gymnastics.
My father was a carpenter, so it was kind of assumed that that's what I was going to do.
So I had to kind of stake out on my own. just kind of watching and being around people when I was allowed to go and was allowed to perform.
Just the people around me, I felt like we pushed each other so much.
All right. Tammy, what is the most interesting part of your job?
Oh well, I think that the most interesting part of my job is that I get to coach girls from all ages watching kids take something very basic such as a handstand and turn it into something amazing as a layout with a full twist.
That's what I find super interesting. What if they have an extra toe?
Do they do better? I would imagine it would depend on the size of that toe.
Okay, Timmy. Yes. Why do gymnastics use chalk?
I want to know that. Chalk is used to absorb the moisture in the gymnast's hands when they're swinging on the bars, and it helps them, allows them to hold onto the bars a little bit better.
I think they should use sugar because it would still look like white powder, but then you could also lick your hands.
Well, you know, they did use something. They do put sugar water.
You see them spraying the water on the grips?
Well, that makes the grips a little bit stickier and tastier.
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All right, Declan. You can ask Tammy your shorts on fire questions now.
What apparatus are you on if you are doing a move called a fly away?
That's the uneven bars. Who is your favorite gymnast of all time?
What is the most difficult move on the balance team?
Eating a hamburger. Full one and a half twist.
Where did gymnastics begin in order to develop muscles for hand-to-hand combat?
Ancient Greece. How long is a floor routine?
It's usually a minute, 30 seconds. What do you do before your routine assured the judges that you are ready?
You have to present. And time is up! Whew, okay.
Well done, Daniel, very good. Okay, we are going to reset the timer, aren't we, Lisa?
Ah, yeah, just. Yeah, okay, it's done. Thank you so much.
All right, Declan, you are going to start with your shorts on fire questions for Alex.
Now, which gymnast has won the most? World Championship medals.
What country had the most Olympic gold medals?
Russia. Strength or flexibility. I would say flexibility.
I feel like you can always build strength and as you get older, the flexibility goes.
What year did women gymnast first compete in the Olympics?
1954. I passed. I'm not sure if I think I'm over here.
Which apparatus would you be on if you were performing a kip?
How long is the runway for the boat? That's a trick question because they actually group people according to height and they multiply your height by five times.
That's how they set up the vault before the competitions.
Time is up mirroring! Very good! Well done, Team Gymnastics!
It's decision time. Now our contestant Declan must decide which facts landed and which did not.
Declan, who is our liar liar pants on fire?
Alex. Why do you think Alex is our liar?
He just was stuttering and he was hesitating to give the facts.
Okay, let's go with it. Will our actual gymnastics expert please tell us who you are?
Hi, today we did it! has been a gymnastics coach for more than 25 years currently an assistant coach for go for the gold gymnastics of Whitney New Jersey and she coaches The USAIGC gymnasts who are state, regional and world first place teams.
Wow, that's fantastic. Okay, let's do some fact checking here.
Tammy. What did Alex tell us that was out of bounds?
Uh, that you do a kip on the balance beam.
Oh, that's not right. No, it's bars. Oh, it's bars.
Whoops. Okay, what else? that they're about their vault runway, that you have to measure the length of the child, the height of the child, times five.
Oh, that sounded good though. Standard competition won't run away as usually 75 to 80 feet.
Okay. Were there other things? Oh, yes. He was good, though.
He was really good. He was good. All right, well, let's take it to Alex.
Alex, what facts did you share that would cost you deductions?
I never competed for the 96 Olympic team to try and get on for the alternate squad.
What else did I... Do you like children?
I do like children. I do like children. I don't know how to operate a gymnasium where I trade now at all and I've never done gymnastics.
I think I can do a round off, but that's about in a cartwheel, but that's about it.
All right. Well, we did cover in shorts round that women gymnast first competed in the Olympics in 1928.
Yes. I said 54. You said 54. No, much sooner than that, but not soon enough, clearly.
Truth. They started sooner, but they weren't allowed to compete at first.
OK, it's time to make our dismount. Thank you to our contestant, Declan, who scored up perfect 10.
And thank you to our expert and liar, Tammy and Alex, Angie Lisa. who floored us with his sounds today, and also many thanks to our listeners tuning into The Big Fib, where we bend over backwards to set a high, far, far back.
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