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Hey, weirdos. I'm Ash. I'm Elena. And this is Morbid.
And we're back. Sorry it has been such a long hiatus.
Someone was out of the country. I was. I went on a cruise.
And before that I got a killer migraine that made it so we couldn't record before I left for the cruise.
And I was sad and alone. Yeah. So now you've all just been on the edge of your seats for like a week and a half.
So. How are you guys doing? Yeah. So you ready for part two?
Ted Bundy? Woo. Woo. I feel like I don't know how to podcast anymore.
I know we forgot everything. We forgot all of the etiquette that comes along with podcasting.
What are we? Who are you guys? What's this called?
Who am I? I don't know. Podcast formid? Podcast Mormon.
Crime True. A. Evil Onion. I was trying to think of another band name.
It's been a long day. Bundy Bites? Oh, Bundy Bites.
Yeah, Bundy Bites. I like that. Jagged Little Bitch.
Wow, listen to you. Yeah, look at me just taking shit out of my memory.
Yeah, I got this. One of us partied, the other didn't.
So it's been a week. Yeah. So a lot has happened in a week.
Yeah. So I went on a cruise. She's Morticia Adams.
It was basically Morticia went on a cruise.
Literally every family picture is just like all these happy people in bright colors and suits and then Elena's just in black.
I literally wore all black everything all the time.
Because... And I went on the cruise... paler than pale and i came back paler than pale the sun did not touch my skin so There's that.
I did it right, I think. Yeah? And... Yeah.
But I think Ashley actually has... A really interesting story that I think you all need to hear because now it's in my brain, so you all need to have it in your brain too.
I didn't sleep last night because of this story.
So yeah, I had to go pay a bill in Fall River and I was driving through the Freetown forest like I was like passing signs for it and if you're not from Massachusetts just google Freetown Forest a lot of things will come up and you will it's like a deep dark hole that you will dive into So anyways, I was driving there and all of a sudden I like hit this kind of like random traffic.
And I'm looking ahead and my car is just like in a block of cars and I can see ahead that there's no traffic.
So I'm confused and I'm just saying like what's going on to myself.
So the woman ahead of me switch lanes and then I'm driving behind this black car.
And all this metal from the black car is like, like hitting my car.
And I'm like, what the fuck? So I switched lanes because I didn't want it to like. break my windshield or anything yeah i'm actually like i'm like my heart's starting to race faster this is so fucking scary So I look next to me because I'm like, why was all this shit flying out my car?
And I see that the front of this car is like completely smushed, like clearly had just been in an accident.
And I made the fucking mistake of looking at the driver who is a woman holding the wheel at like 10 and 2 with blood. pouring down her face like she works at a haunted house.
That's like American Horror Story. Literally the scariest.
And she's like people she's still driving she was still driving and she just looked like so out of it Like, I called my girlfriend and I was probably the scaredest that I've, and I don't, like, I don't get scared easily.
And she was probably in shock. She was probably in total shock and just started driving that car.
That's horrible. fine but then what went through my head was like why didn't you stop your vehicle like why didn't you want like I like thought of like all the worst things like why wouldn't you want the cops to pull you over and like know that You were in an accident.
Like, what are you involved in? I guarantee you she was just in full shock.
Yeah. But I literally like I had trouble falling asleep last night because it's all I could see in my head.
And like right now it's all I can see. And it's so scary.
Because I'm picturing that lady from The Sixth Sense when she gets hit by the bicyclist that gets hit, and he's like, some lady got hit she's next to my window and then they show her and she's got like blood streaming down her face no and it was just like that scared the crap out of me And the scariest thing too, it was such a nice day yesterday.
I'm so glad I didn't have my window down.
I feel like that would have made me feel like even like 10 times freakier.
That's such like a, like a. Yeah, like there was a barrier.
Contrast. There's such a contrast between like this beautiful sunny day.
And this woman with blood pouring down her face driving a beat up car.
But anyways, I called 911 because I was like, someone.
Good on you. And I felt good about it. But the people that were, like, taking the call were so confused because it sounded like I had been in the accident.
And they were like, okay, well, did you get, like, her registration?
And you're like, no. And I was like... No, you see, I'm not involved and she's still driving and it happened so fast.
I felt bad. I felt like a moron because I didn't get like. license plate and I didn't know what kind of no but it's good you didn't fall into the bystander effect thing where you were like well someone else will call and I don't need to call because that's when nobody calls and that's when nothing gets done well and i like sped way the fuck up because i was like get me away oh i'd want to get the hell away from it but i'm glad you called because something needed to be i'm wondering if that's like in the news we gotta look it up I looked it up, and I couldn't find anything.
We gotta... I don't know. We gotta look up a police log or something, because that's bananas.
Like, I've never... Like the hair on the back of my neck stood up.
When you told me, that is spooky. Full on spooky.
So it was the scariest. I honestly can say it's the scariest experience I've ever had that's so crazy I can't believe you just rolled up on that And I looked away and I just didn't look back again.
I was like, nope. And it's like, of course, the one time you have to drive in that area.
Like, it's not like you drive in that area all the time.
I never drive there. The one time you drive in that area, that's what you roll up.
In like three minutes before I was like, oh, Freetown State Forest, like spooky, like I personally would never fucking step foot in there.
No. And then I was like, oh, of course this happens.
Of course. Like, okay. Oh my God, I love it.
It was so scary. so spooky but Elena has a personal story to tell too which is not spooky it's just like oh yeah Well, mine's, yeah, mine's not spooky.
It's kind of spooky in a different way, but...
I don't know if we mentioned a couple of times on here, like serial killers.
I think we did this last week where we were talking about like. even if you get bullied like it's not an excuse to kill people obviously and we're saying that i happened to have a bullying experience and i haven't killed anyone And I don't know if my bullies... Because we actually said on here, like, they're probably too cool to listen to things like this.
And I was joking, but... Maybe they're not because I come back from my cruise.
Now I had gone like maybe like a week and a half off the grid completely.
And Ash just took a picture of me mid-sentence and I look kind of ridiculous.
Ugh. I'm trying to get a good story for our Instagram page which everyone should go follow go follow that At Morbid Podcast.
So now after a week and a half of being completely off the grid.
It was beautiful. By the way, I recommend everybody to get off the grid for like a week at a time because it's amazing.
And. I turn on my internet and I have a friend, I have a message request in my Facebook and the message requests, you know, are like when you're not friends with somebody and they want to message you.
Right. So that's always weird. So I opened it up.
I always get really excited when I open those.
And I was not excited and I was definitely not excited when I saw the name.
Which happened to be the one girl who made my life miserable in high school.
The one that we mentioned that sent me to an abandoned house when they were pretending that it was a cool party. so i see this and i'm like what like girl what do you want like i have not heard from this girl since high school Like, since this all happened, we were not friends.
We're like, we aren't those kind of, it was bad enough that like, we're not those kind of adults that are like, Let's just pretend we're friends now on Facebook.
No, we are not friends. We don't talk. If I see you at Shaw's, I will still hate you.
No, I hate you. So I see this and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Like weird. So I opened it up and it's this big long thing that, about how it's always bothered her, how she treated me in junior high and high school.
Yeah, I was heavy on her conscience. Yeah, and I was weighing on her conscience.
And she wanted to make sure that I knew that I didn't deserve that.
And she played down everything that was done.
Oh, she minimalized it. She minimalized it to say, all she said was that they, she was really sorry that they put these brutal notes into my locker.
That was just one small fraction of what they did to me, okay?
So... And I loved my favorite part about it was that it felt like she felt like she was bestowing upon me some kind of. wonderful gift of telling me yeah like i'm i'm telling you that you don't deserve this And it's like, girl, I may not have known it then when I was super awkward and insecure and you were destroying my soul.
But I surely know it now that I didn't deserve it.
Can I get an amen? One, she either listened to the podcast and decided to reach out because that was very weird.
It was weird timing because we brought it up.
Was it last week? It was last week. It was last week.
So it's weird that within the week that we mentioned it, she suddenly says that.
Or... She's in some kind of 12-step program, and I'm one of her steps.
You know what? I'm not one of your steps.
That step is staying open, honey, because I'm not giving you that forgiveness.
And I don't care how that sounds. I mean, this is a girl who literally Her and her friends, there's two that I can think of, two other ones that I'm not going to mention their names because I'm not a petty motherfucker.
But they know who they are. They know who they are.
But these girls made my life absolutely miserable.
Yeah. And no, they're not people I want to have in my life as adults.
And they're not people that I should have had in my life as a kid.
So you know what? To the other two, I'm sure you weren't going to apologize because you're even worse than her, I think.
But please don't. But don't. And to her, you're not getting any kind of forgiveness or any kind of closure from me.
Because it's just for her. Just leave me alone.
We're 32. Go away. This is for you and you're not getting it.
You feel like you can clear your conscience.
Go ahead. Girl, bye. No, thank you. So that was my little PSA.
Just wanted to let you know. In case you were listening.
I saw a bloody faced woman and she saw...
The ghost of a shitty past. So I hope you're listening.
And if you are. Subscribe. I hope the bloody face girl is listening so that she can tell me she's okay.
Oh, God. Actually, I hope she's not. That's a little scary.
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Well, in other news, my child stabbed me in the eye today.
And actually, now that I'm looking at you, it looks a little bit better.
Does it kind of look better? A little. I put ice on it.
But when I first walked in, I was like, what happened?
Who punched you in the face? Yeah, literally.
It was swollen. My nose was running. Yeah.
It was really close. and it was a good experience you're like a two-year-old i'm super glad i'm super glad i have kids guys Every time I come over, I just dock one more kid off the list I thought I wanted.
Yeah, I think you started with five and now you're at like negative 27.
Yeah, we're just about there, around there.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what my kids are good at.
So speaking of children and wonderful things.
Ted Bundy, am I right? Yeah, let's talk about Ted Bundy. well I know it's been a while and again we apologize for that we'd just like to leave you right on that GOC yeah we wanted to leave you hanging so we could give you a really good one The last we spoke, Ted had abducted A few people in broad daylight from the Lake Sammamish.
Right in front of thousands of people. I mean, he was really bold.
This is when things were starting to close in on him and there was a tip line coming that, um, His psychology professor, his girlfriend, and Ann Rule.
Oh, right. We talked about his girlfriend.
And they all were like, yeah, I know this guy named Ted Bundy, and he's kind of a creep.
He creepy. Because this was called the Ted Murders at this point because he was dumb enough to use his own name.
Around this time is when the Taylor Mountain Skulls are become a thing.
Basically on Taylor Mountain was like at the place where it was kind of like his...
His garden. His dumping ground, essentially.
Yeah, it was the place where he kept all the skulls.
Yeah, his trophy room. That he liked to paint.
And dollop and all that good stuff. Ew. There were four skulls found here with no other bones.
And Detective Robert Keppel is like... the big guy here, he was the lead on this case.
And he started way back on like the disappearance of Linda Ann Healy, which was way back.
Did he work on other cases? He did. It sounds wicked familiar.
He's definitely done other cases and I wish I had them at my disposal right now.
Next time I'll have the other cases that he was on, but he's a big name.
So it was around this time that Ted had actually left for law school in Utah in August.
Wow. This was only a month after the double murder event.
Like this is like Sammamish. Right. So his name was on this list of men, obviously, named Ted, who matched the description, but he skipped town.
So when he skipped town, the abductions and murders stopped.
That's so weird. I wonder why. I know. And you know what's weirder?
What? They began happening in Utah. Why?
Law school. I don't get why. You know what?
Poor Ted. It's just like bad luck. It's like following him.
Yeah. You know, poor Teddy. You know what I'm saying?
So the disappearances and murders that were happening in Utah began with in October, October 2nd, 1974.
16 year old Nancy Wilcox. She disappeared from Holiday Salt Lake City, Utah.
Is that his youngest thus far? Thus far?
Yes. She was last seen as a passenger in a car that matches the VW Bug.
That Bundy owned. He actually admitted to her murder before his execution.
He claimed her body was buried in a location about 200 miles south of Salt Lake City, but she's never been recovered.
And this seems to happen a lot with him.
He comes out with things towards the end.
That's when he started having a come to Jesus moment.
But they don't actually come to anything.
They weren't finding because I think he just has like kind of like well.
He killed so many people yeah he just has like roundabout like maybe 200 ish miles outside of right i mean he doesn't actually know um i keep saying right i'm like right right i'm gonna start saying you're not wrong right Another one that came around this time was a victim named Melissa Smith, and she was the 17-year-old daughter of the police chief Louis Smith.
It's like a punch in the face. Bundy raped, sodomized, and strangled her, and her body was found nine days later.
Jesus. Yes. He's a fucking asshole. He really was.
Next was Laura Aime, who was also 17. So I don't know if he suddenly got into this.
He's getting younger. she disappeared on halloween and her parents referred to her as a gentle free spirit oh this is sad Is that what you would say about me if I went missing?
What a gentle, free spirit. That is you.
Her remains were found about like a month later on Thanksgiving Day on the banks of the river.
Oh, God. What a horrible day. I know. Not good holidays anywhere.
No. He used to visit the Utah victims bodies and, you know, take pictures, change the clothes, put makeup on them, do their hair. and he would rape them until they were too putrefied to do it anymore.
That's so fucking gross. Seems to be his thing.
Ew, ew, ew. Yeah, he's a super necrophile, so...
In case we haven't really like laid into that fact.
That's so yuck. So this is a really interesting one.
This is where the name Carol DeRange comes in.
She's somebody that might sound familiar.
Okay. Near Salt Lake City on November 8th, he stalked 18-year-old Carol DeRange, who had amazing fucking hair, by the way.
Oh, look her up. I've seen her in that documentary.
Her hair is the stuff of legend. Every time we watch that documentary, we're like, look at that girl's hair.
Her hair, it's just, it like gives, I feel things about her hair.
I just love her hair. Do you like her hair?
It's alright. Oh, okay. I just wanted to make sure.
Yeah, it's alright. I don't know if I mentioned it, but he stalked her.
Now, she was only 18 years old. He stalked her at the fashion place mall in Murray, Utah.
Oh, I know this. I know this. He wrote down her license plate number and he waited for her to leave the store.
As she left, he approached her, and he pretended to be a cop named Officer Roseland. and he told her that someone had been trying to break into her car, and he said that she needed to fill out a police report, and he politely offered to take her to the police department.
She smartly asked for some ID because she was like, yeah, okay.
This motherfucker actually produced a police badge.
He just, like, made one? Like, what the fuck?
Her instincts were to not go with him, but she went with him anyways.
Well, because he said he was a cop. Yeah, I mean, he pulled out all the stops.
Papa always told me even when I was like like before I could drive that if a cop like was pulling you over and like you were in an area that you didn't know to drive to the nearest police Yeah, he always said drive to the next police station.
Like, don't pull over. You can do that. So everybody, do that.
Yeah. sketchy don't pull over and pull over in the next how many people like you hear about them posing as cops That's a thing.
So you're perfectly within your rights to drive to the next police station.
Um, so she was weirded out about him having like a VW bug as a car.
And she was like, with a missing passenger seat.
And he claimed that he was undercover. So the missing passenger seat, like what?
So, well, at this point he had the passenger seat because he could put it back in when he wanted to.
So he had put it in. So once they start driving, she soon realizes they're not driving to the police station and she begins to get visibly upset.
He pulls over and attempts to handcuff her because her upset was not part of the plan. she fights him like a motherfucker.
So much so that he ends up putting the cuffs on the same wrist. uh-huh so she jumps out of the car and runs away i'd be like peace the fuck out she got away Yeah.
He didn't go after her. She got away. So, undeterred...
He drove 19 miles away to Viewmont High School.
This is the same night, same, like he drove immediately 19 miles away.
He just like had to get somebody. A theater production was just letting out, and he was seen by certain people pacing in the parking lot.
He was obviously, like, super, like, hopped up and, like, nervous.
Jesus. approaching people with the police officer tail that he was spinning and the vehicle thing.
And at some point he was able to lure Deborah Jean Kent, who was only 17 years old.
He abducted her and she was never seen again.
What they did find was the key to Carol's handcuffs that he had dropped in the parking lot.
So they were able to connect him to this.
Wow. So, yeah. So this connected him with the abduction and murder of Deborah.
What a dumb move. Yeah. He was starting to lose it.
Get sloppy. I think he was just really getting... So, Carol... worked with the police and she told them everything she could about him.
During this time, it was 1975, he drove out to Colorado now.
In Colorado, five more women were murdered.
So he had dropped out of law school now, and this was about nine months after Carol Durange got away.
And she had worked with police, so they had this guy's description, they had everything going on.
During this time on January 12, 1975, in Aspen, Colorado, Carolyn Eileen Campbell, who was 23, She was a nurse from Michigan.
She had been vacationing with her fiance and his two children.
Stop. When she disappeared from the hotel they were staying at.
Her body was found in a snowbank on Owl Creek Road, Aspen, on February 18th, and she was nude and likely had been raped.
Oh, God. The next one was March 15th, 1975.
So just like pew, pew, pew, pew, pew with all these people.
I know. It's so sad. I'm like body, body, body.
So this one was a couple months later. It was in Vail, Colorado.
Her name was Julie Cunningham. She was 26.
She was a part-time ski instructor. Like I said, he liked to ski.
That was his thing. Oh, I forgot you said that.
He's already gone after somebody that had connections to skiing because Linda Ann Healy, one of his first victims... announced the weather reports like those oh okay yeah so that's just kind of like a weird little little connection connection yeah like i think He's obviously staying within his... his world here.
So she, Cunningham, Julie Cunningham, had agreed to meet her roommate at a bar the night of March 15th, 1975. she never arrived there stop it her body was never found but this was another one that bundy confessed to her murder right before his execution Oh.
When he started clearing his goddamn conscience.
Because that's what assholes do. They clear their own conscience.
Not for anybody else's benefit. They just clear their own conscience.
You're still dicks. You're still a douche head.
The next one was a month later, April 6, 1975, in Grand Junction, Colorado.
Her name was Denise Lynn Oliverson. It was a, she had had a kind of an argument with her husband.
She took her push bike and made her way to her parents' house.
What's a push bike? I was waiting for you to be like, you don't know what a push bike is, you idiot.
As soon as I said it, I was like, I don't know what this is.
So help Ash doesn't ask me, but he or she is asking me.
It's a method of transport. Okay. Interzonte.
Her push bike, you know. Pushing the bike.
Push, pushing the bike. She tried to make her way to her parents' house.
Bundy got her before she got home. That's so sad that the last thing she did was argue with her husband.
That is... I would never ever, like, leave the house angry.
Like, not that I'm saying she did anything wrong.
Oh, my God. No, she didn't. But... Guys, never leave the house angry.
It's not worth it. You don't know if a Bundy's like that.
I never leave the house angry. I just can't do it.
No. So her husband reported her missing after he contacted her parents.
And they were like, yeah, she never... came here.
Bundy claimed that he had thrown her body into the Colorado River a few miles from where her bike and sandals were found but she's never been recovered so this is another one that he's like oh yeah i did it and it's kind of around here but he doesn't have any real information Because they don't mean anything to him, which is so shitty.
He just throws them away like trash. It's awful.
So... A month later. So he's like really banging them out now.
Month, month, month. May 6th, 1975 in Pocatello, Idaho.
Her name is Lynette Dawn Culver. She was 12 years old.
What? Yes. He abducted her from school, and according to his own confessions, he discarded her body into the Snake River.
Her body has never been found. A 12 year old?
12 year old. Yeah. So he's really... Oh, my God.
Yeah. Because a lot of people, you know... I think a lot of people don't realize, like, the depth of his... just despicable behavior like they know that he's a bad guy and then he murdered right But they don't realize how many, first of all.
And that he didn't care how old they were.
And that he was going for... 12 year olds 15 year olds 17 year olds like like any girl that fit the better but it's like 12 year olds like that's a child oh So yeah.
You're in like seventh grade. Like what?
Despicable behavior. I love when you said that.
I like that word. Ted Bundy is, he just displays despicable behavior.
He really does. No dinner, Ted. Yeah, no dinner for you, Ted.
You've shown despicable behavior tonight, Ted.
Taking away your phone. Wow. So, one month later.
Wait, one month you said? One month later.
Another month. Another month. Oh, okay. So every month.
He's really trying to hit a whole year. Making sure I follow.
Oh. On June 28th, 1975. My grandma's birthday.
I was just going to say, let's connect this to our family again.
We love to do that. grandma yay she'd be pissed if she said i know she would not be pleased right love you mom In Provo, Utah, Susan Curtis, 15 years old, again.
Disappeared from Brigham Young University.
She disappeared? She disappeared. She did not disappear.
She disappeared. What's the difference? Disappearing, I think.
It's different. It's just different. Oh, okay.
It's more complex. You wouldn't understand. tired guys i got poked in the eye today okay it's been a long week and it's only wednesday I got poked in the eye.
At least you didn't disappear. My kid's a bully, man.
She's not. She was really upset about it, actually.
And she was holding the ice on your eye.
She was, and I told her I did it. mama poked herself in the eye i was like mama did it mama did it it's okay oh You know, she's cute and innocent.
Back to serial murders. So back to Bundy.
She disappeared from Brigham Young University.
Oh, she disappeared. Got it. Again, Bundy claimed to have buried her body about 75 miles away.
But wait, did they ever find her? But she's never been found.
Shit. Yeah. This guy's a dick. This is what I kind of think.
I think that fucker Bundy here... Fucker Bundy.
Right before his execution, he knew he had nothing to lose, and I think he's just started, like... just lying I think he did kill obviously abduct and kill these people but I think he started like sending people and Oh, just for like the fun of it.
Like, I don't know, like 75 miles away. I think he was just picked a random spot.
Yeah. It was like, yeah, go dig there. Like, haha, idiots.
Yeah. It's like, you're the worst. But like seriously.
So now this is. A lot of people don't... There's been a lot of misconception about how Ted Bundy got... caught this time around first yeah like one because he made a couple of escapes from prison like he's he's a slippery which is wild he's real slippery This is what happened.
On August 16th, 1975, so only two months later after this last one, In a suburb of Salt Lake City, Officer Haywood, well, shout him out, man.
Hi, hi, hi. Was at the end of his shift.
And now he this is a small town, so he knows he knows the goings on.
He's at the end of the shift. He sees a VW Bug pass him more than once.
Oh. And he's kind of like... I don't recognize that car.
I haven't seen it around town. That's weird.
And that's like coming back and forth. So he kind of just like took notice of it.
Like that's good police work. So attention to detail.
He realizes that this is a weird occurrence.
And he also remembers that they're nearby in a house.
He knows, because again, small town, that there are two teenage girls at the moment in a house because their parents are on vacation.
Like, he just knows that because around town.
Right. He was just, you know. So by the looks of this whole thing to him, he was like, is this guy casing that house?
You know, like it just like he was just thinking like a police officer.
That's so spooky. So he approached the vehicle and tried to stop it, but Ted wouldn't stop.
There was a bit of a car chase and eventually he pulled over.
When he pulled him over, Haywood noticed that there is no front seat in the bug, and that the handle is missing on the passenger side.
Totally normal. That's a little weird. So he starts questioning about what the hell he's doing.
And Ted gives his information and said he was in town to see the movie Towering Inferno.
So, again, Heywood knows his town really well.
And he knows that that movie's not playing at the local theater.
Oh, shit. Like, this guy's like a boss.
He's like, fuck you. Try again, bud. Yeah, he's like, nah.
What's your next excuse? Wrong already. Couldn't even pick the right movie?
Come on, man. Oh, damn. So... Hey, so yeah.
So he knows he's lying. He's like, you're a lying son of a bitch and you have a weird ass car with no fucking passenger seat.
And you're not getting those girls, damn it.
And no handle. Like, fuck you. So he's like, you know what?
I think I have probable cause to look in your car.
Yeah. Because shit's being weird right now.
Where's your fucking passenger seat? So when he looks in the car...
He has a legitimate murder kit in this car.
Oh, tell us what he has. I'm going to post a photo of this murder kit on the Instagram because it's terrifying.
Yeah. In this murder kit, there was a ski mask, a nylon pantyhose mask. handcuffs, gloves, a crowbar, an ice pick, rope. uh trash bags and tape and so there was that that's what was in the wow He's immediately arrested.
Why? I think they were just going on like a hunch here.
Wait, but for real, can you imagine being the policeman that finds that or policewoman?
And you're like, I just found a mother. Like, I just like had a feeling like you must feel on top of the world.
Exactly. And I guess Ted was also dressed in like all black.
So he just looks like a fucking cat burglar.
I mean, I wear all black all the time. But when you're dressed like, because I dress all in black a lot too.
Do we look like cat burglars? But we don't have murder kits.
Or at least I don't. i'm not gonna speak i don't have a murder kit i have a mannequin head in the back of my seat And I feel like if I got pulled over, I remember one time I brought my car to the mechanic and he like asked me about it and he's like,
What's happening here? And then he was like, oh, I thought you might have been in hair school.
And I was like, I just collect mannequin hats.
I just like mannequins a lot. i love them they're my friends and he's like this is free please take your car away that'd be great i'll try that next time if it's free real weird Being a creep can get you some free stuff.
People don't want to deal with you. Trust me.
Only you would know that. Trust me, I know this.
So he gets arrested. He's arrested, obviously, because there's plenty of probable cause.
Makes sense. And... At this point, they decide to set up a lineup.
Because they're like, wait a second. Oh, they have that Carol.
We have Carol here. Exactly. So we're like, we have Carol with the great hair. you know Becky with the good hair we have Carol with the good hair yeah She can look at this lineup and she can tell us if he's got any funny business going on.
Oh, and he has so much funny business. He picked out Ted.
Immediately. She was like, hey there, motherfucker.
Remember when you tried to murder my ass?
Yeah, seriously. Nah. And there's also a photo of this lineup and it's actually, I find it funny because Ted looks like a super dork.
Like, his pants are pulled up real high.
Yeah, it's just a weird picture. I'm like, yeah, that's not a flattering one.
Yikes. But so she picked him out. He's arrested.
And this is the moment when police from all the other states start connecting the dots.
Shit. They interview Liz and his girlfriend at the time.
Right, yeah. I don't know if they were like, they were in that weird, like, we're together, not together thing.
Who the fuck cares? I think you might be a murderer and I have a child, so let's take a break.
Liz, let's talk about it. So she reveals...
Yeah, he has weird shit here. He has a hatchet under his car seat all the time.
He has a set of crutches that he's never needed.
And he has plaster of Paris. Which he makes fake casts with.
Why wasn't she like, you gotta go, buddy?
She was probably afraid. This was one of those things, I'm assuming, where one, she was probably afraid and she didn't want to put it together, and also...
He was good looking. Sometimes you let shit go when people are good looking.
It's just like unfortunately that's just the way of the world.
That's true. We've all let something go with somebody who's like really good looking.
And you're like, I'm just going to forget that.
I know. And then we look back. And then we look back.
I mean, we've all done that. So... Yeah.
So, you know, they were like, yeah, that's really suspicious.
Especially because all of these women that they talked to... they know that he approached them with fake casts and fake shit.
So that's a huge thing. Sets off an alarm somewhere.
He's sent to Utah State Prison. And police, mainly Detective Jerry Thompson. start putting together a connection from the Aspen, Colorado incidents where in 1977, so he's sent to Utah State Prison for the time being.
This is when the police, mainly Detective Jerry Thompson.
Shout out to Jerry Thompson. Jerry! They start putting together connections. from Aspen, Colorado, where in 1977 now, he's extradited to face a murder charge for the death of a woman named Karen Campbell, who they originally didn't connect him to.
Oh, okay. That's what it is. Got it. So they search his apartment because they can do that now.
And they find some creepy shit. Of course.
Like they find a brochure from the high school play where Deborah Kent was taken from. he kept it as like a trophy after carol de ranch yeah like he clearly kept do you think he watched the play I wonder.
That would be interesting to know. I wonder.
And who knows? Or like if she was in the play.
And he was like, I'm going to kill that one.
Was he into the theater? was he a man of refined taste was he a man of the theatre a thespian I don't know.
But that would be weird. Yeah, right? Like, who knows?
Maybe he did. Or I think he might have, I mean.
Just waited in the parking lot. It's true, but it's true, though.
How else would he have the brochure if he didn't, like, go in there?
He must have gone in. So that's interesting.
It's an interesting little tidbit. I would bet that he watched a little bit of the play.
He watched the play. You watched the fucking play, Ted.
You heard it. here first. He watched that play.
That happened. In case anyone was wondering.
Just in case. It happened. It happened. All right.
We're sure of it. Done. So they found that, but they failed to find.
Dun, dun, dun. A stash of Polaroids that he has of all of his victims after death.
In a lockbox. They just didn't find it. I would not even want to find that.
Imagine being the poor son of a bitch that stumbles across that.
That stumbles upon that shit? Nope. Those Polaroids are probably like... photos of him putting makeup on these things like them all made up and shit That's awful and horrific.
Yeah, that's spooky. It's kind of making me think of the Tom Petty video for Last Dance with Mary Jane.
Yes, that's exactly right. or mary jane's last dance oh my god i love that you thought that yeah i thought it i immediately thought of that right like propping her up yeah because i mean you did that RIP, Tom Petty.
Yeah, I'm not okay. Yeah, you're not okay.
I fucking cried. I feel you, girl. But he's with us now.
Don't worry about it. Tom Petty's here with us.
Doesn't that make you feel good? I'm overwhelmed with sadness.
No, because then I start thinking about Anthony Bourdain.
Which, too soon. Too soon. Guys, like, I was a big fan of Anthony Bourdain, and I'm really sad about his... yeah a lot of people are i will totally talk about it probably in the next podcast but i think it's too soon and kate spade don't forget her yes She made great things.
She made great things. Bags, I think shoes, bright colors, like, everywhere.
It's, goes to show you though that like you can have it all and you can have all the money and all the fame and all the recognition and sometimes it's demons are too hard to overcome.
That makes me so sad. So... That's a real bummer.
So anyways, let's lighten the mood with some more serial killing.
So... Uh, so they didn't find the Polaroids in the lockbox.
Ugh, idiots. But... Yeah, so they found a map and it had an X on the resort that this Karen Campbell had stayed.
They also found credit card receipts that put him there while she was there.
He's a dingus. They also found her hair in his car.
Oh, shizit. So there was just, I mean. I don't know why I just said shizit.
Oh, shizit. Yeah, so they found more than enough to connect him to this.
They found all the things to connect him.
So, after... He spent about a year in prison at this point.
And Ted decided to act as his own attorney.
Because again, he had gone to law school.
He's a smart guy. He's a charismatic guy.
He's good at this shit. So he decided to do it.
Preach. And he liked the attention because he's a dick.
So during court, he demanded... Whoa. Again, Ashley.
Wow, I just got murdered by a recliner. Goodbye.
Did you hear that? I made a weird... I was like... That was like a fat kid scare.
Wow. I'll leave. Oh, oh. I wish we had some, like, tuba playing.
That was wonderful. Oh, God. So Ted is a lawyer.
So yeah, he's acting as his own lawyer. This little diva demands to be treated differently because he's acting in his own defense.
He says he doesn't want to be shackled because he needs to study.
So he doesn't need to be shackled. He's an attorney.
Okay, guys. He's an attorney. So, you know, he's a law student.
He doesn't need to be shackled like some common criminal, okay?
Nice. Let's stop. So... This charming asshole convinces guards to let him study in the law library during a court recess.
So the library is like on the second floor of the court.
Right. during a recess he's like I gotta go up there and I gotta study up cause lawyers do that they go up to the law library to like look shit up And they were like, okay.
So he's alone for like 60 seconds. And he manages to jump out of the open second story window and escapes into the Aspen wilderness.
Damn. it was a big jump somehow he didn't break his leg or foot but he actually like hurt himself yeah but he didn't break anything Wow.
He ends up living in the fucking Aspen wilderness.
Wait, he lived in the woods? Literally. I didn't know that.
For six days. oh that's like kind of impressive he stole food he like ravaged cabins when people were out of it like he actually lived in the wilderness for six days jesus this motherfucker and six days later he stole a car and was stopped for driving erratically Like, Ted, calm down.
Like, you need to chill. Like, you need to chill.
Take a minute. Yeah, like, take a beat. Think about your...
Your behavior. Yeah. He should have re-evaluated.
What was the behavior you said? It was despicable.
Think about your despicable behavior, Ted.
Drive a little slower, bud. Like, relax.
Calm down. Calm down, Ted. So he was stopped for driving erratically and he was arrested again.
And he was put in another prison in Colorado.
So how many days was it in his full escape?
This was six days later. Oh, so you only escaped for six days.
For six days though. And again, maybe I'll post this photo too because it's hilarious.
He looked like a damn mountain man after six days.
Wow. The mountains got to him. He looked like he was the old man of the mountain.
Jesus. He looked like he aged 40 years. I was like, relax.
It was like a quick presidency. He was too preppy for the mountain life.
Oh, of course. So seven months later. He's 31 years old at this point.
So he's like my age. You old. You know.
I'm a spring chicken. At this point he manages to acquire a hacksaw blade from another inmate.
You know, as one does. Wow. He also managed to acquire over $500.
Because it was sent to him from pen pals and groupies that he had already started to collect.
Prison is wild. It's wild. This is wild.
Yeah. He took these things and he sawed a tiny hole in the corner of his cell ceiling.
He had, you know, this was a tiny asshole because he made it like.
Oh, I've seen the picture of it. It had to be subtle.
So no one saw it. He lost 30 fucking pounds to fit in this hole.
Like he went on like, he lost 30 pounds for this.
He actually waited for the holiday break for this escape because he knew there would be less guards on duty.
And he did dry runs of this escape for weeks before.
The fuck? So he shimmied his ass into that little hole and went in through the pipes many times.
How did nobody notice that? Oh people did.
Inmates heard him crawling around. and reported it, and were like, yo, I think there's someone crawling around in the fucking ceiling, they were ignored.
Meanwhile, they were being truthful. They were like, no, it's really Ted Bundy.
What about your snitches? So on New Year's Eve.
Dad's like, bye. No one was going to be there.
At the stroke of midnight. He's like, happy new year.
Bitches. Crawled through the hole. and ended up coming out in the head jailer's apartment no the head jailer was not there it was unoccupied because he was out for the night Because it was New Year's Eve.
Oh my god. He put on some of the jailer's street clothes and walked out the front door.
What the fuck? No joke. Of the jail. He's like, bye.
Because there were not a lot of guards on duty, his absence wasn't discovered until the next fucking day.
Wow. Giving him ample time. Like, hours and hours.
So he went to Chicago first. Did he get some Chinese food first?
Likely. Likely. Likely. that is a new year's activity he immediately went and got chinese food okay he takes a train to michigan Then he stole a car in Michigan to go to the Atlanta area, where he took a bus to Florida.
He's like, y'all, I'm not made for prison life.
And he's not made for mountain life. No, he's like, y'all, I'm going to take buses and trains from now on.
I'm not going to live in the mountains. So when he got to Florida, he made his way to Tallahassee.
Tallahassee. So is this where that fraternity shit goes down?
This is where he planned. He actually planned to just fucking retire.
Did he? Just be 31. Just be a normal guy now.
He was planning on just like being an asshole.
Do you think he would have been able to... do that like to get away with it and he clearly wasn't well yeah but if he had stopped killing do you think he would have gotten away with it somehow i think the problem here i think i wonder No, I don't think he would have been able to stop.
Because the problem here was he wanted to get legitimate employment and just be a legit dude. could he have just like changed his name but he couldn't because he didn't have an id because he was using an alias and he was a fucking you know how pretty it's like pretty easy to get a fake id though I know, but like... You don't know that.
But when it comes to like... But when it comes to like for work documents and stuff, you can't get that shit.
Like you can get it to go have a beer somewhere.
Yeah. But like... he needed legitimate employment and he wasn't able to get it.
True. So... This is where he just went bonkers. which i feel like florida will do to you like no offense florida but i feel like there's just something in the water there Yeah.
So he moves into a boarding house because that's really all he can handle.
And he moves into a boarding house on the Florida State University campus. what's a boarding house again it's kind of just like it's it's kind of like what like a shitty one room apartment it's just like you're living with a bunch of roommates okay okay uh He poses as a grad student because he's 31.
He can be a grad. Yeah. He's a young looking guy.
Yeah. He could do that. He poses as a grad student on the Florida State University campus named Chris Hagen.
Wow. Which... is almost Chris Hayden, which is Rory Gilmore's father on Gilmore Girls.
Bye now. Just wanted to point that out. Bye now.
Just wanted to point that out. He attends lectures because you can do that shit.
You can just jump in on lectures. He's like, I'm bored.
Let's do it. And he just pretends to be this.
So. This. Is where the Chi Omega murders happen.
Oh my God. The Chi Omega murders are things of legend.
Should we end it here or should we keep going?
I think we should just keep going. I think so too.
I just wanted to scare the listeners. I think you guys have earned it. uh you guys are on good behavior but you guys have totally earned it because we've made you wait long enough i was just like i wanted them to be on the edge of their seats i know and i didn't give you that i'm sorry you didn't give it to me and I'm gonna murder somebody.
I apologize. It's okay. I won't murder anybody.
I'm just kidding. Okay. Okay. So it's happening.
I am slap happy. So. That's what you say when you're really tired, right?
Yeah, slap happy. Okay. Or, like, punch drunk.
You know when you say, like, the wrong thing and it's not at all what that means?
And you're like, that's not right. Okay.
I'm punch drunk. You're punch drunk. You're fancy free.
I am tired. And my eye feels better, so I feel like things are looking up here.
It looks better. It does, right? Okay, I feel like it looks better.
It looks like wrinkled, but you don't have wrinkles.
No. It's because it was swollen and because I finally got it to be unswollen.
Yeah. Yeah. This has been an experience, guys.
Yeah. It's been an experience. My kid really beat me up today.
Wow. That's hilarious. It was a lot. So sorry.
Here we are, January 15th, 1978. Ted decides to go to a club, like a discotheque, if you will.
Shut the fuck up. He goes clubbing. He's like, let's do this.
Exactly. I feel that. I get you, Ted. We're painting a real picture here for you.
That's what we're about. We're about painting pictures.
Yes. We're getting you in the mood here.
What's that guy's name? What guy? The happy trees guy.
Oh, Bob Ross. Yeah. We're like his descendants.
We're Bob Ross. Happy trees and happy bass drops. so january 4th he's clubbing so january 15th 15th he's clubbing 1978 he is clubbing.
He's clubbing. And he's trying to pick up on college girls and he's being skeevy about it likely.
And he's too old. And so these college girls are smart and they're like no and they're like you're kind of creepy because again he's 31 right like chill like no 31 year old needs to be walking in and trying to pick up 18 year olds probably not So, and he was probably creepy about it because he's creepy.
Yeah. So these girls were like, nah, they weren't having it.
That really pissed him off. Because he obviously went into this night wanting to pick up a chick.
Wasn't happening. And he was not used to not being able to... get whoever you wanted.
Yeah. Starting to get a little, you know, rough around the edges and women aren't falling.
Starting to get a little rough around the edges.
I mean, physically. I know. I'm just kidding.
So women are starting to be like, nah, it's okay.
I'm good. And he's like, yeah, this isn't okay.
So... At this point, he's, you know, he's addicted to this stuff.
Oh, absolutely. Not getting this. After, like, 400 murders.
Six murders. when he went into this night wanting a fix, is going to piss him off.
He's having withdrawals. So next door to this place is the Chi Omega sorority house.
He had gone there earlier and he had noticed that there was an unlocked door.
So he knew it was there already. Oh, so he scoped it out.
He did scope it out, but we don't know if he went to other places and tried to unlock doors and he just noticed that this was one of them.
We don't know. I mean, it makes sense that he would go to a sorority house because a lot of, you know, usually attractive younger women.
Right. That's his thing. So he he knew that he knew there was an unlocked door.
He was pissed off. He was raring to go. He waited until all of them were asleep.
Stop it. He picked up a log on the ground.
A fucking log. He used nature. And he went into the house and went fucking insane.
I mean, this is frenzied as fuck. That's so scary.
This whole thing happened, I think it happened within like 15 minutes.
So. 21 year old Margaret Elizabeth Bowman was the first one to get it.
Her skull was caved in while she slept. And he took a nylon stocking and wrapped it around her throat and he had pulled it with such force that it nearly broke her neck.
Oh my god. So he was... A nylon stocking almost broke her neck.
He had pulled it so hard that it almost broke her neck.
The next was 20-year-old Lisa Levy. When police arrived they found Lisa in her room.
Her roommate was away. She was still alive but with no pulse.
Unfortunately, she passed away before she made it to the hospital.
That's awful. Her nipple had almost been torn off.
Her collarbone was broken and she had been strangled.
Also, a hairspray bottle had been forced inside of her.
No. A bite mark that Bundy left on her buttock Helped police convict him, though.
What the fuck? He bit her butt? He bit her buttock.
And he left a very... Like, he was so angry.
And he had pretty, like, when you look at a picture of his teeth, he had, like, a chip in his tooth.
Oh. Like, definable teeth. Yeah. And they took a dental mold at the trial later and they were able to match it perfectly to him.
Oh my God. And there's a weird, again, there's so many pictures from this.
Don't let the Bundy bite. There's a picture of him looking at the dental molds and he's like fascinated by it.
It's just like a really spooky photo. Oh, no.
But, yeah, it's awful. And, like, he broke her collarbone.
Again, like, I'm an autopsy technician, as we said.
And we use... basically hedge clippers to cut yeah like it takes a lot and cutting you know and when you get to the collarbone It takes brute force to break that collarbone with like full-on long-handled hedge clips.
How about ripping somebody's nipple off?
What? And he broke her collarbone just by brute force.
That's like bananas to me. Yeah. That's terrifying.
And, yeah, it's awful. So... The next one was 21-year-old Karen Chandler.
She's a survivor. So Bundy mercilessly beat her.
After he fled the scene, she appeared in the hallway just delirious like they found her just delirious in the hallway he had fractured her skull broken her jaw and she had Multiple teeth were missing.
Jesus. He took her teeth out? Like he beat her so hard.
Oh, they fell out. I'm such an idiot. I'm like, he extracted her teeth like a dentist?
Goodbye. Goodbye. I understand now. So the next one was 21-year-old Kathy Kleiner.
After Karen, who survived, had staggered into the hallway, Kathy was found.
Oh, God. She survived, but she would never remember the attack.
And she had been fast asleep when it happened, but she survived.
And she survived with obviously, I mean, multiple lacerations, broken jaw.
Like, I mean, she was, she clearly, and she's to this day, she doesn't remember it. that's good goodness yeah so after this whole thing he leaves with the log in his hand So he leaves with the log in his hand, covered in blood.
And during this time, a woman returning to the sorority house saw him with the log in his hand.
Saw him like as she was just walking in the door.
Another guy saw him still holding the log down the street.
So he was clearly in like just... He was like totally like removed.
He then doesn't leave. he's just like still at the scene instead he breaks into another woman's home right nearby after this what he wasn't still going 21 year old Cheryl Thomas was eight blocks away.
He entered her basement apartment where he found her in her room.
He woke up all of her neighbors with the violence he inflicted on her.
Oh my god, like the screaming and like banging.
Yeah, it was just like... They said the thumps of him smashing her head was heard throughout the house and a neighbor banged on the wall.
Like, what the fuck's going on? Yeah. Oh, my God.
Ew. Amazingly, she survived. What? Yeah. though she had life-changing injuries, including permanent hearing loss in one ear and cranial nerve damage that forever affected and will affect her equilibrium oh my god so I mean, that'll give her like vertigo forever.
That's like, it changes your whole life.
And when he gets it every once in a while, it like... you're out totally just disrupts your life and she was a dancer and this completely ended he literally ruined her life yeah And she's just sleeping in her room one night.
Oh my god. Yeah. So that night, people who spoke to him when he arrived back at the boarding house... Because then he just went back to the boarding house.
They said he was... Was he covered in blood?
Well, I guess maybe he cleaned up. He must have changed or something.
But they said he was literally insane. Like they said it was like speaking to a beast.
Like he was unhinged. That's so scary. And they said he wasn't even on like planet Earth.
Like he was a space cadet. So he was clearly in like a just murderous trance.
That's so scary. So. Now we come to, I mean, that's basically his crescendo and this is where he ends it.
So that was on January 15th. On February 9th, the same year, 12-year-old Kimberly Leach was in her PE lesson at school. when she asked her teacher if she could get her purse from wherever she forgot it at the last class I think she was at.
So she was retrieving her purse and she was spotted being led away from the school grounds by an irate man.
Nobody reported anything, thinking that was probably her father.
But once her actual father became aware that she hadn't attended the rest of her classes that day and he said he had not removed him from school, that was not him.
Police were called. A lengthy search concluded and two months later, her body was discovered in a pig pen 40 miles up.
Oh my god. She had been sexually assaulted and strangled.
It was Ted Bundy. That was his last victim.
The night of the Chi Omega murders, he had come in contact with a lot of people.
And they all identified him. Right. So he was arrested.
Well, and there were survivors. Yeah. And he, so he was arrested again and he decided to act as his own attorney again.
And this is, I mean, the trial is bananas.
And there's one specific video that you can see online.
And again, I'm going to post so much shit on Instagram.
He just looks fucking crazy. you can see like a lot of these survivors talk about, because a lot of them had to be you know they had to testify go to trial they had to sit in front of him like carol de ranch had to sit in front of him i mean like and after everything they've gone through he was still trying to manipulate the situation to be the one in power.
Oh my god, wait, and he was... cross-interviewing, or what is that called?
Cross-examining. So he was talking to them?
Exactly. And some of these women... I saw on one documentary that some of the survivors of the Chi Omega house massacre said that they had to sit across from him at a table while he asked them questions.
Yeah. And so one woman, and I can't remember who it is, but I'm going to post who it is when I find out because she deserves to be named here because she was badass right she was one of the women the sorority sisters she said she refused to give him what he wanted because he was trying to relive that night.
Oh, absolutely. Because he was trying to make her describe things, and she wouldn't.
She would only give him yes or no answers, just really...
And he goes, she says in this documentary he was being very calm and collected and I'm an attorney and I'm very ahead of everything.
And then all of a sudden when he got aggravated that she wasn't giving anything to him, he slammed his fist on the table and was like, you have to. to fucking answer me like flipped out and she let she looked at him and she was like that's the monster like the monster monsters right he's got chills yeah and she was like and he can't control it like it comes out like he totally lost his shit and she was like and i loved watching him lose his It's crazy that they like let him do that because he was so close to them.
Exactly. And I don't I feel like they wouldn't allow that.
I know it's it's one of those things that it's like they can act as their own attorney.
But I feel like you would have to at least. be in shackles.
Yeah. I mean, I think he was in shackles at this time, but...
But there's also a little video of him being led away while he was acting as his own attorney.
So he's in a suit. He's not like in prison gear.
Right. And I believe he's holding like folders or something.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And they're leading him away.
And he's aggravated, you can tell, but he's composing himself.
And one of the guards grabs his arm like a prisoner.
Mm-hmm. basically and he whips his arm away and you can see this fucking fury on his face and like you can just see it switch like he's a monster like he's he's like you know charming good-looking Ted for a second like la la la and then all the sudden when he doesn't like something that's gone like he flips in for a second you just see like That's what those girls saw.
That's so scary. Which is really scary. Like, you just see what those girls saw.
And you're like, that... It's like what nightmares are made of.
Because everything he presents to everybody is this really put-together guy.
In his interviews, he's very put-together.
And had he not... like flipped out and lost his cool like that I bet a lot of people like not everybody but it would be hard to envision Right.
Because it's hard to envision this guy losing it.
So good for that girl for, like, getting him aggravated.
Oh, I'm glad she got him fucked up. And then Carol Durant said it, too.
She was like, fuck him. Like, I need to get it.
And I was like, you bad bitch. You fucking ruined my life, bro.
So there's a lot of... There's a lot of things.
And we'll post a couple things because it just really is interesting.
Like him looking at the dental... and stuff.
It's just like, it's really fucked up that he got... We'll make a quick pic collage for you.
Just be an attorney in this whole thing.
It's like, fuck him. In the end, he, like, started fucking grasping for straws because he didn't want to die.
Like, he did not want to die. I wish they didn't execute him, because I think we could have learned a lot more from him, to be honest.
I don't think he deserves to be walking among us, but...
He was... He's such a prototypical serial killer.
And he's what we... Like, you know, he's kind of like the holy grail of serial killers.
So it's like... we we got rid of it and it's like and it's it was florida and florida's like all about executing yeah I mean, like, these people on the morning of his execution, people were camped out like a fucking tailgate party.
You have to think, though, like... to see like a monster die though like you're gonna tailgate at someone's execution like that's crazy I don't know.
I mean, I wouldn't do it, but I could understand... I understand people... Celebrating the end of... and that's the thing i can understand people wanting him to die right i get that like i really do i understand why i wouldn't go to the lengths i see what you're you're saying like they were treating it like an event like a part like a fucking football game like they were like chanting like burn bundy burn and stuff it's like they made it like this like a football game I think it was just because it was so long and everyone was so terrified for so long.
But I think people also didn't think, what can we learn from this? yeah I don't think people think like that all the time this is a brain that we need to pick right like and he was willing to talk that's the thing Well, and I think also like you look at it from like a scientific point of view and other people look at it from like a... this guy was an emotional yeah exactly emotional and i'm don't look at it from that yeah you're not an empath i'm not an empath no So in the end, when he was grasping at straws, just trying to get that stay of execution, because he was trying to get another stay.
Oh, yeah. He blamed porn for everything.
As they do. He said he just watched a lot of angry, violent porn and that was it.
And he talked to some guy. I can't remember the guy's name, but he's like an evangelical, I think.
And he was like, we got to tell the youth of America not to look at porn.
Like he just turned into an asshole. Like, he was just totally... He was just grasping.
I think he was also just placating to, like, whatever the hell he wanted to.
Oh, yeah, whatever, like, things said. So...
He was found guilty, obviously, in the end, and he was sentenced to die by the electric chair, and he did on January 24th, 1989. the end of ted and i was like four years old i wasn't or i was like five years old at that point I wasn't.
Yeah. I wasn't even a thot yet. I'm a spy.
I'm a spy. I was five when Bundy was killed, just saying.
Do you want a prize? That Is Ted Bundy.
And we just gave it to you. We just gave it to you.
We were going to separate it into three parts and we didn't.
We didn't. You're welcome. We just gave it to you.
We gave it all to you. And do you know what we're doing next week?
Do you know? Do you know? Do you know? Do you know?
Do you know? Do you know? Do you know? Charlie time.
It's Charlie time. Charlie's going to be in.
A two-parter. Oh, for sure. Because I'm going to go into his early... Yeah, we got to go deep into his shit.
I'm taking the reins, motherfucker. Yeah, this is going to be an Ash-centric episode.
Ash-centric. I love that. Put that on a t-shirt.
Because this is Ash's... fave. My fave serial killer.
So she gets to She gets to jump in the driver's seat.
And you know what? And don't tell me that he sucks because all serial killers suck.
They do. But he's my favorite. Exactly. Okay.
It's just, it's favorite in a different way.
And we have been digging all the messages.
Oh my God, I know. That you guys are sending.
Like, we really appreciate it. Send us. And it's like touching our souls.
One of the things that I absolutely loved was somebody said that they felt like they were like... just hanging out with friends we are your friends like i that's what we wanted we wanted to we just want to like bestow this weird ass and Yes.
That we have. We want to, you know, just give people some... Give the people what they want.
And we want you to feel like you're hanging out with friends.
Yeah. Because... you are our friends today i was at work and i was telling my work friends about my podcast and then we just like started talking about like all these creepy shows and stuff and i was like oh at a table full of weirdos.
See? It just like feels so good. I love bringing people together.
Yeah. Like weirdos together. And you realize that you're not... the only weirdo that is interested by this stuff and it's like it's it's i love it it's like we're a little tribe of weirdos and i love it like you're our tribe and it's amazing So thank you for the messages and keep them coming because we love them.
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So, you know. Because I want to do, I kind of want to do like a giveaway.
I know. We're gonna do something fun. We're gonna do a giveaway.
I was gonna shout out to our 100th follower.
I'm going to shout out to our 100th follower.
No. Thank you to our 100th Instagram follower, Miss E.
Annie Syzik! A.K.A. my stupid girlfriend who should have been following a long freaking time ago.
Annie Syzik. is the wonderful girlfriend of my co-host Ashley!
We should have been following a long time ago.
But instead of following us a long time ago, she waited to be the 100th follower.
Which is stupid. Which is... next level she also sent us a message today and said do i get a shout out she said don't forget my shout out So Annie, this is your shout out.
You don't win anything except my love. You're welcome.
My love and devotion. yeah also john followed us a long time ago yeah i said that i was like john doesn't even use instagram doesn't even use elena's husband like what And on that note... So on that note...
Thanks so much for listening. Keep on listening.
Keep it weird. And... Tune in next week.
For Charlie Manson. And I don't know if I mentioned this, but he's my favorite serial killer.
She didn't mention it before, right? I never mentioned it.
You didn't know that. Okay, bye. Bye. That was a harmony.
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