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Hey weirdos, I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is a mini Morbid.
And it's Ash-centric, bitches. It's ash time.
Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini morbid. Mini morbid, mini morbid, mini morbid.
Ah, I love that time of day. It's always Ash time.
It's Ash o'clock. It's Ash o'clock somewhere.
Yeah, that's my motto. Anyways, since this is a mini morbid, we don't have very much business to get into.
So let's just get right into the conversation.
Let's dive right in. So I'm going to be talking this week about Christine Marie Paolilla.
That sounds very familiar. I think I'm saying the last name right.
I looked it up. Somebody said it like that.
Tell me if I'm wrong. So we'll blame that person.
Just like Oregon. It's fine. Oregon. It's Oregon.
I'm gonna try my best, but she's not from there, so it doesn't matter.
Truth. So she was born on March 31, 1986.
Oh, my God. To her mom, Lori, and her dad, Charles.
She was born to her mom and her dad? Yes.
Whoa. Already, this is crazy. This is bonkers.
Really sad, though. When she was two, her dad died in a construction accident.
Oh. And then her mom started doing drugs.
Wow. That went downhill fast. Yeah, you know, I really like to pick up lifting stories.
You really do. So things eventually got so bad that the mom lost custody of Christine and her older brother, and they got sent to live with their maternal grandparents.
Okay. If this wasn't already sad enough, from a young age, Christine was bullied because she had alopecia.
That's terrible. Really sad. Who are these people bullying people for diseases?
Kids are fucked. Like, who are you out there?
And she was in kindergarten when she got diagnosed.
She was like five. So for anybody who doesn't know, alopecia is a disease that affects your hair follicle or it affects your immune system, actually.
And basically, your immune system attacks the hair follicles in your body.
So you lose your eyelashes, your eyebrows, like all body hair and there's actually a ton of different kinds of alopecia there's like tons like there's like regular alopecia there's like A postpartum alopecia.
Oh, yeah. After you're pregnant. Yeah. Yeah.
It's like crazy. So she had that. And so she started to wear wigs and stuff, which, obviously.
I get that. And she also had bad eyesight, so she had to wear pretty thick glasses.
I don't know how much money they had or anything like that, but she had to wear like Like the wigs that she wore were very like Halloween-ish.
Yeah, like they weren't like super duper expensive wigs.
Right, they didn't look like her real hair.
And then she had to wear super thick glasses.
So kids were assholes. Yeah. And they would rip off her wig while she was trying to walk to class.
Oh, that's awful. I know. If she ends up murdering someone, I'm going to feel bad for her.
You know, things turn around for her. Oh, that's good.
So... All that sad shit happens, but then her mom ends up getting clean.
That's good. And she gets regranted custody.
And she ended up getting remarried, so the family moved to Clearwater, Texas. the mom, the new stepdad, Christine and her brother.
She began high school at Clear Lake High School and was almost immediately befriended by the two most popular girls in school.
Oh, well, shit. Yeah. Way to turn it around, girl.
I know. She like really just like went from zero to 100.
Yeah. Real quick. Real quick. So the best friends that befriended her were Tiffany Rowell and Rachel Clordis.
Clordis? I like it. Yeah. I'm probably not going to say it very much after this.
They were, like I said, two of the most popular girls in school.
But by all accounts, they were super nice.
They weren't bitches. They weren't like...
The quintessential typical popular girls.
The stereotypical popular girl. Right. And they genuinely just wanted to help her fit in.
Because when she got there, she was still wearing big wigs and the big glasses.
That's nice. They just took her under their wing.
Yeah, they were like, girl, honey child.
Like, we're going to fix you. Yeah. That's nice.
So they showed her how to fill in her eyebrows, how to wear makeup, and like what clothes look good on her.
And I think they actually helped her get a new wig, like pick out a new wig.
Oh, my God. Yeah. Tiffany and Rachel. Like applaud.
Like snaps. Tiffany and Rachel. Yeah. So Christine's family accounts that she was completely different when she moved back to the school.
Like she was super happy with these new friends.
And by senior year, her classmates actually voted her Miss Irresistible.
Aww. Which, side note, I want to ask, what fucking high school has that as a superlative?
Laguna Beach High School. Did they really?
Yes. I feel like that is like a little much.
Lauren Conrad got most irresistible. I'm saying, it's weird.
It's a little unsettling. We did not have... I don't think high school students should be labeling each other most irresistible, but...
Laguna Beach High School did it. That's a little like.
So that's the only one I know of. I don't know if I would want my kid to be labeled irresistible.
Yeah, I don't know if that would be my proudest moment.
If one of my daughters came home and was like...
Oh, you're most irresistible to your classmates?
Like that makes me want to take you out of school and homeschool you.
But you're already done with high school at this point.
So that sucks. So yeah, but she was super stoked.
Well, good for her, I guess. And also, they were so close, her, Tiffany, and Rachel, that they were the only two friends that she would She would let them see her without her wig.
Oh. Like she felt that comfortable with them.
Yeah, she trusted them. This is also nice.
I just like... Oh, yeah. Everybody, thank you for tuning in this week.
Great little uplifting tale. So, actually, it's not over.
Christine meets this boy. oh and that's where you know the shit goes down oh no so she began dating chris snyder and in my notes i wrote chris and christine really Oh, really?
Yeah. Really? Come on. Really? It was like when Taylor Swift dated Taylor Lautner.
Yeah. I forgot that that happened and that's weird.
Stop it. Yeah, don't do it. No. Imagine if I dated somebody named Ashley.
No. Or Ash. Ashley Parker Angel from O-Town.
I'm there. All my 30-somethings will know I'm with me.
The only reason I know that is because I was approximately raised by you.
So Christine's mom said that Chris scared her from the start.
There was something in his eyes that she did not like.
Oh my God. You know, this is my biggest fear in life.
But also I would be like, you still live in my house.
You're not dating him. But like, this is literally my biggest fear in life because that's never as easy as that.
I know. I'm like, that's what I would say.
Okay, mom. I'm going to go make dinner now.
Yeah. So yeah, that didn't happen like that.
No. And also Chris was known as a very pushy, aggressive kid with a drug habit and a record.
Hey, he's sounding great. Is he Mr. Irresistible?
Yes. No, he's Mr. Stay away from me. Stay the fuck away from me.
Tiffany and Rachel told Christine that she could definitely do better and that, quote, there was another guy out there Who would treat her with dignity, respect, and kindness.
Good friends. But obviously she didn't listen.
Oh, no. But apparently, Christine was no cup of tea either during that relationship.
Uh-oh. She was super, super jealous, like insanely jealous of anything.
Like, he would, like, glance at a girl and she would be like, what the fuck are you looking at?
Because she was probably, like, she had no self-esteem from her whole life.
What's that called? Insecure. yeah what's that called oh insecure yes so yeah he would look at another girl and she would hit him oh yeah like she wasn't yeah don't do that Um, Chris's family.
Don't condone hitting your significant other.
Don't hit your significant other. Don't do it.
To Chris's family, she was known as, quote, the psycho.
Like, that's what they referred to her as which like i really hope none of my i was just gonna say me as the psycho i hope i hope none of us have been there but i feel like we've all been there Yeah, you know.
Oh, this is really actually like so fucked up, but so funny.
Oh, no. they got into fights, she would sleep on his front lawn and scream and yell and like rattle the front door like trying to get into his house.
What? Yeah, which I'm like, I don't know.
Where are his parents? I don't know. His sister, Brandy.
Because I'd be turning the hose on that girl.
Oh, yeah. I'd be like, sprinkler system on.
Thank you, Alexa. Thank you, Alexa. Did the Alexa just turn on?
It did actually. That's funny. And according to his sister Brandy, she threatened to kill my mom, my dad, and even me.
Oh my God. She was an absolute cancer to us.
Oh, she's a nightmare. mm-hmm this i'm not on her side anymore no i switched no it's one thing to be a little secure yeah it's another thing to like to literally be crazy yeah like don't be crazy don't do it like so this is fun One night they were in a particularly bad fight and all of the sudden she stopped yelling.
Aw. licked his face from chin up and walked away.
She licked his entire face. That is a game-changing move.
Game changing. Licked his face. That is both a diffuser and an igniter all at once.
Because it's like, I'm so confused why you just licked my face.
But I'm also raging angry that you just... So it's like...
I don't even know where to go. I think I would throw somebody across a room if they licked my fucking face from chin up.
I would just need to take a walk or something.
I don't even know. Oh, I think I would literally take her by the neck and throw her across the room.
What a decision. That's disgusting. What a move.
Also, I feel like she was just an animal.
That's a power move. I don't know what kind of move that is, but I don't consider it a power move, to be honest.
Holy shit. Wow. What? Wow. Yeah. So he told his family that he had two fears in life, the cops and Christine.
I don't blame him one bit. Also, first of all, in the beginning we were like, what's her family thinking?
Now we're like, what's his family thinking?
He doesn't even seem that bad compared to her.
Yeah, for real. So clearly Christine was unraveling at the seams. say so and she was also using drugs with him i'm shocked yeah you know that will definitely cause you to lick somebody's face up and down yeah And then on July 18th, if she already wasn't unraveling at the seams, July 18th, 2003, four dead bodies were found.
Belonging to Rachel, 18. Tiffany, 18. Tiffany's boyfriend, Marcus Ray Priscilla, 19. and his cousin, Albert Nicholas Sanchez, who was 21.
They had all been shot. Marcus had received blunt force head injuries.
But Rachel received the worst. Her head was bashed in.
There was a clump of hair in her right hand.
She'd been shot 12 times. What? Once in her left buttock.
Excuse me. And like that shows that she probably tried to run away.
And also she had been shot in the crotch.
Yeah. oh yeah um the police were in awe 40 shots had been fired that were incredibly precise keep that in mind Incredibly precise.
40 shots. Holy shit. The police were confused because of the seemingly personal connection to Rachel.
Yeah. And she was 100% the victim of overkill.
Oh, yeah. She was... overkilled and the kinds of wounds inflicted to her especially. were those that would indicate some kind of personal relationship, especially the shot that was fired to her crotch.
Yeah. It's an indicator of sexual jealousy or some kind of like competition.
Holy shit. However, the police ruled it a robbery gone wrong that was most likely drug related.
Yeah, totally. Yeah. Because, well, Rachel and Tiffany had graduated and they were waitressing at a local strip club.
And Tiffany's boyfriend was known to sell ecstasy and cocaine.
Okay. So that's kind of why they thought that.
But still it's like I feel like this looks like a little more.
Yeah. No one ever presumed that it was Christine because those were her best friends.
She was never a person of interest, like nothing like that. so it was ruled a drug-related murder and christine flew under the radar kind of um kind of she and chris broke up And he ended up going to jail for auto theft.
Shocked. And she ended up in rehab in Caraville, Texas, where she met Justin Ropp.
So her and Justin Rock got married and they bought a condo together.
His last name is Rott. R-O-T-T. Nice. Yeah.
Savage. Okay. They bought a condo using the trust money that her dad had left her.
Okay. So it was hunky-dory for a short period of time until a news story was aired about the murder of her best friend's So they aired the news story about her friends on self-murder, and they had new police sketches of possible suspects.
Oh, Christine apparently began pacing around the living room like a psychopath. and just saying, oh my, oh my, oh my.
Very subtle. And her husband was like, yeah.
He's like, why are you so upset? You okay though?
I know those were your friends, but like you're acting a little weird. like girl and she finally looked at him and said does that sketch look like me oh my god and he was like yeah actually it does So then she finally admitted to him her version of the events.
Probably totally the true version. According to her, she and her ex Chris Snyder went to the house to steal money and drugs, which was his idea to begin with. right before they entered the house, she was shocked and he handed her a gun right before they walked in.
Isn't it always the way? Totally. I had no idea.
No, I know. It's like, oh, my God. Okay, Justine Morley.
Yeah, bye. He walked into the house and immediately shot Priscilla and then the gun that Christine was carrying just magically went off.
It was the craziest thing. That happens a lot.
Yeah. I don't know, like... They have to really build these things better.
Yeah. They have to stop putting magic spells on them.
I know. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah. And when it went off, she just lost control of it and started firing it aimlessly around the whole room.
I mean, what other choice do you have at that point?
Yeah, it was like as soon as she picked it up, like her hand was just like levitated into the air and just like moved freely.
Once magic takes over. i know you're helpless it's like bewitched it really is different but like more aggressive yeah so yeah that that happened absolutely it was she was under a spell yeah um and then they left the scene but chris told her to go back and make sure everyone was dead So I'm going to tell you that this next part is really fucking sad.
Uh-oh. Trigger warning. Well, not even trigger warning, just like sound warning.
Like you're listening to Morbid, you're okay.
I know. but you know but you never know i like to hand out a good i do it too so don't worry um when she walked in she saw rachel crawling on the floor trying to dial 9-1-1 on her cell phone She was still alive.
And she was also gagging on her own blood.
Oh, as one does. So Christine took out the gun and began beating Rachel over the head with it. ensuring that she was dead.
Oh my god. So yeah. And then do you want to know what they did after?
Try to guess what they did after that. Did they have sex?
No. Did they eat? Nope. I'm out. Okay. Chris drove Christine to Walgreens because she had to clock in for her shift behind the makeup counter.
That was going to be my next guess. Yeah.
She was like, I'm going to be late. You need to drive me to work.
Yeah, I've got to go to work. And she went to work.
What, are you going to miss your shift at Walgreens?
I mean, I don't know what you're going to do.
It could be Jesus. So, yeah. Wow. So mind you, all of what I just told you is what Christine told her new husband, Justin Rock.
Oh my God, poor Justin Rock. Also, they were like recently out of rehab.
Oh my God. Even though it's like clearly like you're not supposed to... start a relationship with some rehab, but it's obviously working out really well.
So next up, Christine's husband was shocked, but for some reason he stuck by her. and they went on the run together because mind you she like the new police sketches had been released and she looked like the fucking yeah sketch because she like killed her best friends.
So they moved into a room at the La Quinta Inn where they relapsed on drugs together in quite a horrific binge.
They were using $500 worth of heroin a day.
Okay. Damn. And surviving off of Cheez-Its.
Everybody chill. I know. Cheez-Its, Reese's peanut butter cups, and soda are what they were living off of.
That's probably balanced. Yeah, totally.
In the seven months that they lived in that room.
Whoa. Seven months. months they never once let housekeeping in oh and they only left the room to go get more drugs Oh, God.
That must have smelled. When whoever got to the room did get there, it was covered in vomit.
Ugh! Blood. Ugh! dog shit what there was a dog in there yeah where did that dog come from and over 100 needles Oh my God.
I'm like picturing the scene from Saw. Literally.
Yeah. And then I'm just picturing like vomit everywhere.
I know. I'm not into it. No. I'm not into it.
Not into it at all. You don't have to be dirty on top of being like...
From Satan's butthole. Like, you can also be clean.
You're also doing $500 worth of heroin a day.
You're not even, like... like a human, like a functioning human at that point.
That just made me want to clean everything.
I know. room made my brain i know it literally is like like i want to take my brain out from my head scrub it up and put it back in i want to shower i need to shower i need to shower So yeah, 10 days before the third anniversary of the murder.
This is actually really funny. I wrote, I meant to write the Houston police, but I wrote the Hostin police.
The Hostin police. The Hostin police. You know, the police that have nice parties.
Yeah. Or they just like critique your parties, your hosting abilities.
The hosting police are coming in. That's awesome.
Karen, I think the cheese spread is nice, but it could have used some more dill.
This charcuterie platter is not up to snuff.
I don't know what you were thinking. Sorry, Janet.
Don't match. Citing you, Janet. Girl. Get it together.
Ticket. That's the hosting police. I love the hosting police.
But this was the Houston police. Oh, this is different.
So they received, people are probably like, shut the fuck up, I hate you.
They get so off topic as morbid girls. We're just trying to make you laugh.
LOL with us. LOL. So they received an anonymous tip from a man who claimed to have met Christine while in rehab.
And he told the police that she told him that she and her boyfriend were responsible for the murders.
Wow. She's just like, yeah, she fucking told everybody who slips sink ships.
Yeah. Thank God. Cause like you suck. I know.
Um, so police were able to track her down within two days of the tip because of, Because they were going back and forth to the ATM like so often to take money off for drugs.
But they were like, oh, there they are. Oh, there they are.
In this dog shit filled room with fucking drugs.
Fucking vomit and fucking Reese's peanut butter cups.
You know that whoever went into that room never was able to eat Cheez-Its or Reese's again.
Oh, hell no. never that would have been it how do you like I know you already killed four people but also you just ruined Reese's and Cheez-Its for someone yeah that's a crime that's a fucking crime that should be added on to your record here.
100%. So she was arrested within two days of the tip.
She said multiple different things about what happened on the day of the murders.
Like her story changed a million times. But either way, she was tried and convicted of first-degree capital murder.
Good. She was sentenced to life in prison and she is ineligible for parole for the next four years.
Yeah. And Chris Snyder. her boyfriend, knew that police were looking for him.
So he ran into the woods and with a can of soda and a thing of pills and he overdosed in the woods.
Wow. Yeah. Courageous. And like the only explanation to why she would ever murder the people she claimed.
Yeah. That's what I'm wondering. And she claimed these girls were the only people who would never stab her in the back.
Like she said that herself. So what the fuck?
So my theory is that she must have just been, like, super jealous of them because they were, like, pretty and she was... But she was pretty too, like...
Well, and she probably didn't like that they were telling her, like, your boyfriend is not good for you and stuff.
And he was probably in her ear manipulating her and...
So they just drove to the fucking house.
And she's obviously got issues anyways. I mean.
A normal person doesn't lick somebody's face from the chin up.
I mean, I'm willing to say yes, that is not adorable.
So, oh my God. But like the two people who like took you in, took care of you.
Literally. Like made you feel good. Never would have done anything to hurt you.
And you admit never would have done anything to hurt you.
She said the two people that would never stab me in the back.
How are you... living with yourself girl they got you voted miss irresistible yeah and we'll post pictures Now, she is Miss Resistible.
Oh, I'm sure. Resist that bitch. Resist that bitch.
Ready? I kind of want to pull it up and show you on air just to hear your reaction.
Because I really want to hear it. I want to hear it.
So I don't know what happened to her other than heroin and...
But she does not look good. So this is what she looked like before.
We'll post these pictures. I have seen this case because I have seen that picture.
And that's what she looked like when she got caught.
I mean... That's a face. How? That is a face.
Fucking serious. I wish you guys could see Elena's face.
That's when she got arrested. Oh. Yeah, she literally looks like a scary skeleton.
She looks like something that would crawl out from under your bed when you were little.
Like, that's terrifying. And it has zero to do with like alopecia.
It's just she looks. Oh, no, it has nothing to do with that.
Terrifying. That was Chris Snyder. Oh, and he just looks like that guy.
Imagine if he walked into your house and he was like, I'm going to take your kid out for a date.
He looks like that guy. You'd be like, no.
He has the eyebrow ring. John had an eyebrow ring at one point.
They were cute. But I feel like everybody gets the eyebrow ring.
The dudes get the eyebrow ring during like a period of time.
Oh, and this is the sketch. Oh. So I don't really know what she was wearing on the day of the murders.
Apparently like a do-rag. It does look like a do-rag.
And an attitude. I think I'm going to go today for a do rag on a man, too.
That's the look I'm going for. So yeah, that is the Christine.
Wow. The senseless ass. That is one of the most senseless ones.
She was just like, I don't like you guys anymore.
Because there's no motive? She never gave a motive?
She never gave a motive. Wow. So that's just so like.
Yeah. The only motive she gave was that they were going to rob them.
Yeah. They were going to steal their drugs.
And that he, well, I mean, the gun just magically went off.
I know. I forgot that that happened. It's such a shame.
It is a shame. When magic goes wrong. I know.
It's Wingardium Leviosa. It is. This is one for, Hogwarts should be ashamed.
Yeah. Of this one. Not their best win. No, not their best witchcraft.
They probably tried to hide this in the annals of Hogwarts history.
That's actually where the Chamber of Secrets came from.
Oh, murder. That was a good one. Thank you.
I know it was short, but like it's an Ash mini.
And you know what? I think it's good that we have some short ones in here.
Yeah. Because sometimes you got to listen to something on your commute to work and you only have 30 minutes or something like that.
I wish my commute to work was only 30 minutes.
And I know sometimes I get bummed when I have like an hour long podcast and I can't finish it in one sitting.
So you know what, guys? You're welcome. Yeah.
You are welcome. Welcome. We switch it up.
Here you go. Good job. So that was our mini and we are going to actually be recording right now.
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Not that weird. Weird. Really not that weird.
Oh, and don't lick people's faces. Don't lick people's faces, guys.
Ask consent. In an argument, do not lick somebody's face.
Don't do it. That's fucking weird. weird.
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