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Welcome back to another installment of Robert Hansen.
Yay. That guy from Alaska. He can see Nebraska.
Wait, what can he see from his house? What'd you say?
I was going to say Nebraska. He can see Russia from his back porch.
Yeah, exactly. We had a few people who were super psyched about an Alaskan case.
We have some Alaskans who were super psyched. well happy to please y'all so hey Alaskans that were super psyched we're glad that we could give you this hey Alaska hey Alaska We got to thank some Patronuses.
Let's do it. Let's do this. You're going to hear my paper, but it's to thank you.
So just do it. in the weirdos category this week we have a madonna named olivia Olivia, so hot right now.
Yes, I live for that every time. Thank you, Olivia.
Thank you, Madonna Olivia. Thank you so much.
And she's the lone weirdo this time. Oh, I love when it's just a lone weirdo.
I do too. We're all a bunch of lone weirdos.
It's true. In the window latching coven, we have Grace Huber.
Grace Huber? Thank you so much. Grace Huber.
Thank you. Your last name was fun to write.
It was like squirrely twirly. Then we have Jeannie.
I'm really sorry, girl. Kernishan, I must say.
Jeannie or Jeannie? It was J-A-N-I-E. Oh, Janie Kernisham?
Yes. Janie Kernisham. You are just everything that's right in the universe right now.
Sure are. You hold us all together. Thanks, Janie.
So I appreciate it. and then we have janie sorry then we have rebecca darling rebecca darling Your damn darling.
Oh, my God. How did you come up with that?
I know. That was really creative. Rebecca Darling.
Thanks, darling. Thanks, darling. You're the best.
Then we have Aaliyah McLaughlin. Aaliyah McLaughlin.
Tell the story, tell the story. Not only do you have a great first name because it's one of the best singers, like R&B singers ever, R.I.P., But second, your last name is my husband's favorite last name on planet Earth.
Like, he loves the last name McLaughlin.
Which is the funniest thing in the entire world.
So you have a special place in my heart right now.
You do. Thanks. Thank you so much, Aaliyah.
Then we have Katie McKeon. Katie McKeon.
Maybe. mckeon you're the the bees neon yeah if i said your last name right that works perfectly Thanks so much.
Yes, thank you, Katie. In the evil onion category.
We have Delaney Hall. Delaney Hall. I know Ash has a special place in her heart for you.
Listen, Delaney, you have my favorite name ever.
It's the best name in the world. I want to name one of my kids Delaney, but Annie says no because there was this one girl that she didn't like named Delaney.
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But I bet you're fucking rad. Yeah, I bet she's not that Delaney.
She's not. No. So thank you so much, Delaney.
Thanks, Delaney. And then we have Dina.
I'm sorry if I mess your last name up. Guys, you have hard last names this week.
Dina Mercillo, I'm going to say. Dina Mercillo?
Yeah. You're the... I thought I had something there, but I don't.
You're not good at this. But you know what, Dina Mercillo, Gio, you're the best.
Yeah. Totally. And then we have the jagged little bitch this week.
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So I think we don't have any other biznasts to attend to.
So why don't we just jump into the Alaskan wilderness with Robert Hansen?
Oh, I just jumped. I jumped into the wilderness.
That's the noise you make when you jump.
I'm there. Let's do this. It kind of feels like the Alaskan wilderness tonight, actually, because we're getting a snowstorm.
Really? hope and pray that my boss doesn't make us go to work tomorrow, but I really, really doubt it.
I do too, but I'm going to think good thoughts for you.
So without further ado, Robert Hansen. When we talked about him last week, I think we left off with his first couple of victims that he actually ended up murdering.
We talked about Roxanne Eastlin. We talked about a Kletna Annie or a Klootna Annie.
I'm not exactly sure how to say that. We talked about Joanna Messina.
And then we talked about Lisa Futrell. And then we said there was a whole year between Lisa and the next victim.
So the next victim was found on September 12th, 1982.
Okay. From here on out, we're going to talk about when they were found, because we don't have a whole lot of information about all the 17 that we have.
So we're just going to kind of hit the ones that we know about.
We're going to talk about when they were found and do it that way.
So we're kind of in the timeline we need to be in because I don't want to jump all over.
So the next victim was found on September 12th, 1982.
Hunters found her in a shallow grave on the banks of the Knick River.
I don't know if it's Knick or Knick. someone from Alaska tell me it borders Anchorage Her remains were identified as 23-year-old topless dancer Sherry Morrow.
She had been reported missing a whole year earlier.
Oh wow. They found that she had been shot in the back three times and cartridges were found near her body.
That were from a .223 Ruger. I don't know guns, guys.
Don't yell at me. I don't know. Ruger, I think it is mini 14 hunting rifle.
Now that's what you ended up being shot with a hunting rifle.
Now weirdly, her body was found fully clothed, but there were no bullet holes in her clothing.
So obviously she was nude when she was shot and was dressed before she was buried.
Interesting. Which is really creepy and weird.
I'm surprised he even dressed her. Right?
It's just so weird. It is. So later, it was determined that the night before she had disappeared, she had told a friend that some dude offered her 300 bucks for a nude photo shoot.
Now, $300 is a lot of money. Sure is. She ended up being driven, and obviously it was Robert Hansen.
She ended up being driven to an abandoned lean-to in the wilderness by Robert Hansen.
With an ace bandage wrapped around her eyes.
Oh. So how creepy does that sound? Hate that.
Like, not even a regular bandana, like, just bandana around her or something.
An ace bandage. Like, I don't know why that just gives me the willies.
He did this, he said, because he didn't want her to... Okay, so his whole thing is that he's always saying that he never intended to kill these girls.
Like, he was always going into this with the intention of he was going to do whatever he wanted to do.
And then they were the ones that... went batshit stopped listening to him panicked and he ended up he was like i had to kill them but you like it was like totally put it on them like he totally put it on them So he said he did this because he didn't want her to see where they were.
He said because he was planning on letting her go and he didn't want her to be able to find this location again because he wanted to use this location again.
Jesus. He's a sicko. I know. So he ended up getting his SUV stuck in the snow.
Which he does a lot. I'm like, dude. You're like, maybe get some snow tires if you're really going to make murder your fucking hunting game.
Sweet. Smooth this situation out. Maybe throw some chains around the tires.
Do what you gotta do. Go to Michelin. Call it a day.
He really is a dork. like you can't even drive a car do that right yeah like he's like oh my god it's stuck so he gets out he's trying to get the cargo and he's messing around with it Sherry is smart, so she runs out of the car, but she's blindfolded and has her hands tied up.
Oh, fuck. And it's pitch black. In the Alaskan wilderness.
Well, obviously she did not get super far.
So he got her. And he said that he watched her run around and scream for a little while and then just shot her in the back.
How fucking sick is that? Also, what if I'm a shooter in the back?
Right. Always. I'm just picturing that. Like him just sitting there, like enjoying watching her run around and scream blindfolded in the Alaskan wilderness.
And he's just standing there with a rifle.
Yeah, that stresses me out. Like that scene alone, I'm like, ugh.
Like you need serious, serious psychiatric treatment, sir.
Yeah. It just seems like the scariest scene you could ever conjure up.
He then ended up stealing a very distinctive gold arrowhead necklace of hers.
Which ended up being one of the things that nailed him to the wall later.
Dun, dun, dun. Because he was, again, think about it.
He's a hunter by trade. He loves trophies.
And by all accounts, he was a really good hunter.
He was in like several of those books with records and all that.
So he's going to take trophies. That's what hunters do.
You're not hunting just to leave the animal there and be like, well, that was fun.
See you later. His whole house was covered in animal trophies.
I mean, there was antlers everywhere, heads everywhere, just animal parts.
Yikes. And so, of course, he's going to take trophies from his human victims.
You know... But I think he's just, this is all he can do is just steal the IDs and all that, so...
Which is, like, the worst thing you could do.
Yeah, it's just, like... In order to get caught, I mean.
Yeah, it's just, like... That's the thing, I'm like...
You must know other killers, read other true crime things.
If you're a serial killer, you have to at least know one other case of this.
You're not totally... in a vacuum here.
So it's like, you must know that any time they do that.
It nails them to the wall later. Like it connects you to the case in a second.
Right. So it's just dumb. And it's like narcissistic and it's egotistical.
It's arrogant. Yeah. Because they think that they're going to be the ones to be able to do it and get away with it.
Well, that's the whole thing about being a serial killer is you're just narcissistic as fuck and you just think that you're going to be the one that doesn't get caught. exactly like you are you're always gonna be the one to get caught So in the year between Sherry being taken and her being found that whole year.
He had already killed three more women. Shit, so he had four in that year already?
Just in that year. Just in that year. And he already had about three before that.
So it wasn't until 1983 that he really started getting looked at.
As a dangerous asshole. So this is the thing I was talking to everybody about, about basically how he gets caught.
And they do it, it's like the main story in that movie Frozen Ground, The Frozen Ground or whatever it is.
I think Vanessa Hudson. Yeah. Vanessa Hutchins.
Vanessa Hutchins plays this girl. On June 13th, 1983, 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ended up escaping from Hansen.
Oh shit, motherfucker. Exactly. And she escaped while he was trying to load her into his Piper Super Cub plane to drive her out into the woods.
A plane? Yes. Because this dude has a plane.
An airplane or like a swamp plane? No, like an actual small Piper Club is like a small single engine plane.
Holy shit. Yeah, no joke. So she told police that he had offered her $200 to perform fellatio. but that when she got into the car, he pulled a gun on her and drove her to his home in Muldoon.
Where was his wife? I don't know. That's the thing.
His wife is like, I don't really know. They don't really mention where she is during all this or anything.
I don't know if he did this when she was visiting family.
I don't know if she... Like, it's very odd.
But she really didn't know. Weird. So...
So yeah, so he drives her back to the home in Muldoon.
Once there, he... basically holds her captive and he ends up torturing, raping her, beating her.
And then he chains her by the neck to a post in the basement.
Oh, my God. Of his home? Yeah. Yes. and if you there's pictures i believe i posted photos of his basement it's just all these antlers and like yeah dead animal that was just like it's just creepy as hell And then he just took a nap on the couch nearby After he chained her up by the neck Well you know it's really tiring work It is.
It's really tough to torture someone. Totally.
So she said... She tried to get out of the restraints.
She couldn't get out. He woke up. He gets her out of the restraints.
He puts her in his car. and took her to Merrill Field Airport, where he told her that he was going to, quote, take her out to his cabin. now this cabin was a shack in the con again knick or nick river area of the matanuska valley And it was only accessible by boat or bush plane.
So you couldn't drive there. You had to take a boat or you had to take a little plane.
Yeah. Now, he told her he was going to take her there, but he said, don't worry, I'm going to have you back home by 11 a.m. the next day.
So like you're going to live. I'm going to let you go.
I'm just not done with you yet. So Cindy obviously is like, yeah.
Like, go fuck yourself. Like, I'm not an idiot.
So she's crouched in the backseat of the car with her wrists cuffed in front of her.
And... She said that Hansen was loading the airplane's cockpit with all their stuff.
And he was trying to get the like, because it's I think it's like a two seater or something or like maybe a four seater.
It's one of those really tiny ones. And he was trying to get one of the plane seats like up in the upright position.
And he couldn't do it. And she said, well, he was doing that. he had his back to her.
So he said while his back was turned, she crawled out of the back seat, opened the driver's side door, and ran towards 6th Avenue.
Yo. So she later told police also that she had left her blue sneakers on the passenger side floor of the backseat of his car.
Because she said that she left them there so she could say, see, I was in that car.
Holy shit, how smart. Which I'm like, wow, that's smart.
Wicked smart. And it almost didn't help her, because wait until you see how dumb these police are.
So Hansen saw that she was running and he panicked and started chasing her.
But she made it to 6th Avenue first and was flagging down a truck.
Oh, my God. Now, while he's chasing her, someone in the airport, I think it was a security guard, saw him. running didn't see her but saw him running like frantically and like caught eyes with him and Hansen said he stopped and as soon as he saw that and just kind of like slowed down and then turned around and walked back to the plane like because he was like this guy's gonna think I'm up to something.
Well, he probably already does now that since he saw you chilled right out.
Exactly. And now he sees you just chilling out really quick and just walking calmly back to you.
Casual. What was this dude doing? So the truck that stopped for Cindy was a driver named Robert Yount.
And he was obviously like, what the hell?
But he stopped and picked her up. He drove her to the mush inn and she said she jumped out of the truck and just ran inside.
Oh my god. Now, she said she pleaded with the clerk to phone her boyfriend slash pimp, who was at the Big Timber Motel.
And the truck driver... drove away because he was like I don't know what to do but he called police to report this because she was like so frantic that She just got out of the car and ran into the motel.
Right. And he was like, uh, like, do you want me to do anything?
So he was like, he called the police and was like, hey, so I just picked up this, you know, barefooted handcuffed woman who said that this dude like was trying to kill her and. assaulted her and tortured her.
So the Anchorage Police Department officers arrived at the mushroom where she was dropped off.
They were told that she had taken a cab to the Big Timber Motel where her pimp was staying.
Officers arrived at room 110 of the Bing Timber Motel and found her still handcuffed and just alone in the room.
She was taken out of the headquarters and she... Why was she alone?
I don't know. Oh, I know why he was alone.
At first I said the same thing. I was like, why was she alone?
I thought that like the boyfriend slash pimp was supposed to be in the room.
But what happened was she got there. told him the whole story, and he went looking for Robert Hansen.
He went looking for him with, like, a gun.
Like, was gonna go kill him. Literally went to go kill him at the airport.
Like, was like, bye. That's a good pimp boyfriend bae.
That's a good pimp, so. Pimp boyfriend bae.
So when she got brought back to the APD headquarters, she described who took her.
And it was Robert Hansen. And she said, it's Robert Hansen.
Of course, Hansen was taken in and questioned.
And he denied the whole thing. And he said that Cindy was just trying to cause some trouble for him because he wouldn't pay her extortion demands.
So he was like, she's just trying to get money.
She's a sex worker. Why are you listening to her?
Cause that was his MO. Cause if you remember in part one, It was always his word against the sex worker and the police department was always like, we're going to take this fine baker's word.
Well, even that woman who he followed home, didn't she report him to police?
And they were like, And they did some... I mean, they did more with that one than they did with the other ones, but they really...
We're not taking the word of sex workers here.
He even let them into his home without a warrant.
Like, he was like, go ahead, search. Wow.
Because he didn't think he's arrogant. He didn't think they were going to find anything.
I was going to say, he's just a confident piece of shit. shit.
Because he had apparently, so he used like a, I think like a hook or like a an eyelet hook to chain her to the pole in the basement.
And when she pieced out and ran, he went home and pulled that hook out and puttied up the hole so it wasn't there anymore.
So he thought like they can't even pin on that.
Like even if she said that, I'll be like, there's nothing.
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So when they went down there, though, they saw that everything else was exactly how Cindy described it.
Like she described all the walls. She said exactly what was down there.
And what's even crazier is obviously Hanson had had a few run-ins with the law.
I mean he had stolen shit and all that stuff so he had been brought in many times so it was on his record.
Well, the department, the APD was in the process of transferring their computer system to a new one.
So none of his priors showed up. So basically when they looked up his record, it looked like he was squeaky clean.
So this is when the police were like, huh.
I think we should question the sex workers.
Story. Instead of his. So they asked her to take a polygraph.
Yeah, you know. Not him. They asked her to take a polygraph.
Dude, what is wrong with this world? She was obviously, and rightfully, really pissed off and was like, no, I'm not taking one.
Like I told you everything. This is ridiculous.
If you're not going to believe me, then why would I do this?
Now, remember, she had, I mean, she had injuries that proved that something had happened and she described everything. every bit of his car, his plane, his home and his face to them.
And he had a distinctive face. He had acne scars.
He had a stutter. He had the glasses. I mean, so the investigation was closed.
Nothing happened. That is until Detective Glenn Floth, I think it is, of the Alaska State Troopers decided to become involved.
Because he was like, wait a second.
Something is awry here. Now, Floth. You said his name was Glenn.
Yes. Detective Glenn Floth. So Glenn's always know what's going on.
Glenn's are always on the forefront of everything.
Glenn's are like ahead of the game. Glenns be knowing.
Glenns do be knowing. They really do. They do.
And this Glenn... was already part of the team that was investigating the discovery of the bodies that we talked about before.
And they were finding all these women in and around Anchorage.
And he was part of the team that was investigating this.
Now, in September 1983, troopers ended up finding the body of Paula Goulding.
It was in a wooded area near the Kinnick or Nick River.
And it was only accessible by pod or plane.
So that's a big thing because bodies don't just end up in places that...
You can't drive to. Right, exactly. At the scene, they found the same shell casings that were at the other body dumps.
And suddenly they were all becoming connected.
So Glenn was the one who started to connect all the missing sex workers from the previous couple of years as well. well because he started going down a list of missing sex workers that were just not being investigated and he started connecting that wait a second these might be these girls He ended up with a victim list of 10 names that were missing.
All of them were in their 20s, between 5'4 and 5'7".
They all had jobs as topless dancers at one point.
They all had conveniently had very high paying dates arranged with complete strangers before going missing.
So can you guess who that stranger might have been?
No, I have no idea. You have no idea? I know, I'm not laying the breadcrumbs well.
Can I phone a friend? So luckily, I know it sounds like the Alaska Police Department are completely hopeless.
But they're not totally. They kind of sound like the LAPD.
Right? They're like the LAPD of the wilderness.
But they're not. They're not completely helpless.
Of the wilderness. An investigator on the APD named Craig Baker said, apparently was horrified by how the whole thing was handled in his department.
And he joined the investigation with Glenn.
So Greg and Glenn are on the case. Now, because he needed a search warrant, he decided to go outside the box for this.
And he contacted the FBI and And he talked to Special Agent Roy Hazelwood.
And he requested that he help him form a criminal psychological profile based on these three bodies that they recovered.
This was like a not normal or like this was not a common thing to do back then.
Like, this was pretty outside the box to ask the FBI to do a psychological profile.
Because it was fairly new. I mean, even doing profiling was fairly new.
I think profiling is so interesting. Wait until you hear how much they... I don't know how they did this.
Because it's literally Hansen. I don't know how they did it.
It's like psychicness. It's magic. Roy Hazelwood, the special agent that was coming up with the criminal profile, thought that the killer would be an experienced hunter with low self-esteem... have a history of being rejected by women and would feel compelled to keep souvenirs of his murders, such as jewelry and all that.
Yeah. He also said that he might stutter.
Literally said he might stutter. Which blows my mind.
Why did he think that? I don't know how it works, man.
It's like an art. I have no idea how we pulled that out.
But, and obviously this is. I would love to be able to profile.
It's crazy to me. It's like unbelievable.
That probably makes your dating game so much easier.
Oh yeah, you can profile everybody. I'd be profiling everybody.
You're like, she's a nope. She's a nope.
He's gonna buy me steak, hell yeah. That's what you would use if the common good.
Fuck yeah. The greater good. The greater good.
So they used this profile and they started investigating possible subjects until they got to Hansen. who weirdly and they were like not the first person he thought of well they were like he fits this perfectly and he owns a plane and had been investigated before And we have like 452 million people being like, hey, he did this.
Now, in the meantime, troopers were also comparing tire tread marks at crime scenes.
In and out of crime scenes. And... They were matching tires that were on Hansen's plane because the tires on Hansen's plane were, like, very specific tires that, like...
Only he had. So they were already starting to connect all this.
So they had Cindy Paulson's testimony. They had Hazelwood's criminal profile.
And so Glenn and the APD were able to get a search warrant to search Hansen's plane, cars, and home.
So on October 27th, 1983, they went to his house.
They started looking. They uncovered jewelry belonging to some of the missing women and an array of firearms in a corner hideaway of Hansen's attic.
So in his attic, in like insulation, he had hidden this jewelry and they found it.
Like one of the investigators happened to go up there and start looking through it and boom, he found it.
Now, they also found an aviation map with little X marks on it in various areas.
And it was hidden behind Hansen's headboard on his bed where he slept with his wife.
So his wife was literally sleeping in front of that.
Yes. No, when they compared it with the four murders that they were ready to tie to him, they matched where the bodies were found exactly.
Oh, no. But didn't you say how many were there?
There were 20 more Xs on the map. Oh, good.
So... Among the items that they found in his home, he had kept a fish necklace that had been custom made for the victim, Andrea Altieri.
So this was like a custom made necklace.
They could not like, you know, mistake it for anybody else.
Right. And at the end of this I'm going to name the victims because I haven't named them all yet so I just want to make sure I get their names out there but I'll do it at the end.
Now this case actually, this is just a little aside, it also set a legal precedent in 1983 where psychological profiling was used as the main basis for issuing search warrants so this was like a precedent so that's kind of cool now there were a couple of people who still gave him an alibi What is wrong with those people?
But when the cops talked to them and said what they had found in his home, all of a sudden they were both like, well, fuck.
We lied. Like they literally were like, whoops, we don't want to go to jail forever.
So we lied. Sorry. And it's like how you were ready to lie for this dude.
Like, that's bonkers to me. And, like, what did he even do for you?
Exactly. I think he baked them delicious baked goods.
I mean, I like baked goods. I don't know if I'm ready to lie for them, though.
Betty Crocker, aisle six. Make your own brownies.
I mean, I loved baked goods, but... I don't know if I can formulate or materialize an alibi for them.
I cannot. I just don't think it's worth it.
Now, Hansen was arrested and he was charged with assault, kidnapping, multiple weapons offenses and theft and insurance fraud.
Now, that last charge was related to a claim filed with the insurance company where he said...
Somebody had stolen a ton of his like animal heads.
And he said, like, someone came in, stole all his animal heads from his cabin or his house.
And the insurance company gave him like an absurd amount of money.
They gave him something like $10,000 for it or something.
And he used it to buy that plane. So he bought that plane with stolen insurance money.
Now, when confronted with the evidence found in his home, he denied, denied, denied.
But then eventually when it became, they were like, dude, we literally have everything he was like okay i did it but it's the women's fault Totally.
Which is like, okay, incel. Okay. Yeah. Like, classic incel, Hansen.
And then he tried to just say... That it was their fault because if they had just stayed calm and didn't panic, he wouldn't have had to kill them.
Just stay calm while I let you loose in the middle of the woods and hunt you like an animal.
And that's the thing. Just like calm down.
Just stay calm. Like chill. Some people play Twister and Scrabble.
I play hunt people like animals. I play the most dangerous game.
I don't understand what the problem is here.
You are really high strung. Like, it's all good, Sharon.
Yeah, it's all good, Sharon. It's fine. So during a 12-hour sit-down with a prosecutor, he gradually let out what his life was that he concealed from his entire family.
He started confessing to each item of evidence as it was presented to him.
So they would be like, here's a necklace.
And he was like, yep. Like that. I took that.
And then he topped it off by admitting to a spree of attacks against women.
Not just the ones that they were presenting to him, but he said it started in 1971.
Now this was in 1983. So he was like, oh I've been doing this for a while.
He's like, you idiots. He said his earliest victims were young women, usually between 16 and 19, and not sex workers.
These were women that he somehow just picked up and got into his car.
And it was their fault too. It was their fault too.
He also said he raped some 30 women and murdered as many as 21.
Some reports say 37. That's disgusting.
But obviously they have not all been found or confirmed.
He would kidnap them. The same M.O. bring him back to his home where he shackled him in his basement room known as his den. the women were shackled by their arms legs and necks he would sexually assault them for as long as he wanted to and then often he would make it so that they were too weak To fight back.
Like, that was his plan. He would do it until he was like, you're sufficiently weak.
When he was over it... He would then put them into his small bush plane and bring them out to the wilderness.
So he was literally flying victims into the Alaskan wilderness. after he tortured and raped them, and then let them go into the middle of the woods of Alaska and, like we said, hunt them down, like animals, sometimes.
Reports said sometimes for days at a time.
What? Before fatally shooting them. In all cases, he shot.
I think he only stabbed one. No. Yeah. He was extremely detached from these women, obviously, as humans.
Like, you have to be to do that. But, like, he was... he made it very clear.
He actually referred to his murders as quote, a summertime project.
In an interview. Like, buddy, you're not cleaning out the garage.
Like a summertime project. What? You're not Marie Kondo-ing your house for the summer.
That's not what that is. You're not tidying up.
You're not tidying up. So he reminds me so much of BTK.
He had the wife, he had kids, they had no freaking clue.
Yeah. And he's just doing this as a summertime project.
Or like Ted Bundy. Yeah, it's true. Like tons of friends.
Yeah, because he had a ton of friends. Yeah.
But with BTK, it's like he was married for decades and had kids.
Yeah, the marriage thing is different than... Yeah, it's like you're living in a house with someone.
That would be like John suddenly being revealed to be a serial killer.
I'd be like, what? Oh, I meant to tell you.
No, I'm just kidding. I found some shit out. like that would blow my brain apart like I always think about that with like BTK's wife and stuff I'm like man that must just I don't even know where to go with that Yeah, I can't even put myself there.
It's crazy. So, Hanson did enter a plea bargain. after ballistics tests did match the bullets found at the crime scenes to his rifle specifically.
So once that piece of evidence was in there, well, he was like, all right, cool.
So in 1984, he pleaded guilty to the four homicides the police had evidence for, which is Morrow, Messina, Golding, and Eklutnayeni.
He provided details about the victims, and he said he would provide all the details in return for serving his sentence in a federal prison. along with no, like he wanted the publicity surrounding his case to be minimal so that his family wasn't affected.
Which is like, oh, what a guy. What a gentleman.
Like, how about the family that you affected?
Like, yo. And you weren't thinking about that when you were murdering women?
Like, damn. Or, like, what about all the people that have to explain, like, where their daughter went?
And... Now, a condition on the police part of the plea bargain was that he had to... tell them what the markings on the aviation map meant.
And he had to locate all of his victims' bodies.
Like, he had to bring them to the bodies so they could get them.
He ended up leading police to 17 of the grave sites.
And they said that he was almost... No, they had him heavily shackled and covered with people.
He wasn't just walking around the wilderness by himself.
But the police said that he was like running to the sites like hurriedly going like he was hard to keep up with.
And they said he hadn't been to some of these places in years and years.
And he knew it right off the top of his head exactly where they were.
They said they never had to dig more than one hole to find them because he could tell you, which is such a hunter thing, too, I feel like.
Like he's... I don't know. But damn. That's fucked.
Which is just crazy. So, um... 12 of these bodies that they found were completely unknown to investigators, like totally new information.
Oh my god. And then there were some marks on the map that he refused to give up the location, that he refused to tell anything about.
So then did his end of the plea bargain get held up?
Well, I guess it did, but I think they were just happy to get what they could get from him. basically.
That's not fair. Because I think he agreed to it and then this happened so they were like we have to just go with it.
Why do you think he refused? Who knows? Like just to be a dick probably?
Yeah, probably just to be a dick. These were in Resurrection Bay near Seward, and authorities suspect that two of these marks belong to the graves of Mary Phil and Megan Emrick. who he denies killing, but they think that they're tied to him. you know these dicks they'll like be like oh yeah I'll tell you everything they seem all fine with telling all the details and all that good stuff and then all of a sudden they'll be like oh I didn't do that and then you find out later they did And you're like, well, why are you denying that one?
You know, like... Yeah, it's weird. Like, they do this shit.
It's so weird. It's a monkey. Yeah. So the remains of 12 victims, which they say of a probable 21 victims, were exhumed by police and returned to their families. now he confirmed to police exactly how they thought these women were being abducted that he was doing that And then he said sometimes he would let potential victims go if she convinced him that she wouldn't report to the police.
So every once in a while he was like, I just felt like it and I would let her go.
So it's like you never knew. Just playing God that day.
Yeah. He basically said it was easy because...
Because in the vastness of Alaskan wilderness, there's never any witnesses to worry about.
No one's going to hear them scream in the middle of the woods.
And he said in 1980 he shot the dog of a woman he had murdered so that the dog wouldn't lead anyone to her grave.
Wow, I already thought he was a piece of shit.
Doesn't that make you hate him like so much more?
I could strangle him with my bare hands.
Like, he's the worst. Like, he's awful, awful beyond.
And then he shoots a dog of a murdered woman.
So that the dog can't find his owner. And leave police to them.
I hope somebody makes him their bitch. I'm saying.
Like 20 people though. Now, Alaska has no death penalty.
So after his guilty plea, he was sentenced to...
461 years in prison without the possibility of parole so don't worry he's not going anywhere He was first imprisoned at the United States Penitentiary, Lewisburg in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania.
In 1988, he was returned to Alaska and was incarcerated at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau.
And then that was only for a short period of time, though.
And he was also imprisoned at Spokane. Spring Creek Correctional Center in Seward until May 2014.
And then, for health reasons, he was transferred to Anchorage Correctional Complex, and that's where he was when he died on August 21st, 2014, after 30 years behind bars. at the age of 75, from natural causes.
Wow. And... What a doucher. As a little aside...
The Pope and Young Club that had entered his records into their, like, hunting records book.
Pope and Young, whatever. They initially said that his crimes didn't invalidate his bowhunting records.
Like they were like, he still got those records, but they have since removed his name from the record books.
Yeah, a race. Yeah, it's like, good call.
Cut, cut, cut. His wife and two children tried to stay in Alaska, but after two years of the children being harassed at school...
Mrs. Hansen filed for divorce and they moved to the lower 48.
That's really sad that kids would make fun of them.
Yeah, they had to be run out of Alaska. Yeah, that's fucked.
And, like, don't make fun of somebody because their dad's a murderer.
Exactly. It's like, dude. They didn't choose that.
That always blows my mind. I'd be like, why would you ever pin that on a kid?
It's like they obviously had no idea. And it's like, do you really think their home life was that great?
Their dad's a serial killer? like jesus like fuck off like maybe give them a break kids are the worst the 17 women that i just want to name really quick just so we can make sure their names are in there are Lisa Futrell Malai Larson Sue Luna Tammy Pedersen Angela Federn, Teresa Watson, D. Lynn Sugar-Fray, Paula Goulding,
Those were all people who their bodies were found with Hansen's help.
Andrea... Fish Altieri, which he admitted to killing, but her body was not found.
Sherry Morrow was, he admitted to killing and they found her body without his help.
A Klutna Annie he admitted to killing. They found her body, but her true identity has never been discovered.
Joanna Messina, he admitted killing her.
Her body was found without his help. Another one they nicknamed Horseshoe Harriet, who he acknowledged. her body was found with his help but her true identity has never been discovered roxanne eastland who he acknowledged but they couldn't find her body Celia Beth Van Zenten.
He denied this one. She was only 17. Oh my god.
He denied this one, but it's tied to him because of the X on the aviation map.
And her body was found on that X. So he did it.
The next one is Megan Emrick. She was also 17.
He denied this one, but there's an X on the aviation map where her body was found.
So again, he did it. marry Phil, another one he denies, but the ex matches her body.
And again, it's like, So three X's match three shallow graves in the Alaskan wilderness, and you're telling me that's a fucking coincidence, you dumbass?
It's not. Like, come on. Now, of the 17 women, again, he was only formally charged for the murder of four.
Shari Morrow, Joanna Messina, Akletna Annie, and Paula Goulding.
But he was also charged with the kidnapping and rape of Cindy Paulson.
That is the end of... Robert Anson. So he did.
Wow, what a whirlwind. He did. Don't worry about him anymore.
But he was pretty brutal and awful. R.I.D.
Rest in distress. Yeah. I like that. Thank you.
Thank you. I love it. So yeah, so that is the conclusion to Robert Hansen.
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