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I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is A Spooky Morbid.
🎵 Thank you. Oh, my ass is singing. I literally said to myself as you were saying, hey, weirdos, I'm Elena.
I was like, don't sing during this one, you dumbass.
Don't do it. And then I just did. It's just in your bones.
It's here. It's in your DNA. My DNA. In your dena.
It's in my dena. It's in your genome. So.
But first things first, I just wanted to tell everybody because I had mentioned that my dog, Bailey... has been going through some issues lately.
She's had surgery for cataracts. She's been having a lot of trouble with both of her eyes lately.
And everybody's just been so sweet about it that I just wanted to update you because everybody was asking and I was like, oh.
So Bailey ended up having a lot more trouble with her eyes and the surgery apparently did not take so one eye she has a detached retina in the other eye we had to just the other day get removed So now she has one eye and it's one eye that does not work.
So she is now completely blind and we are having to reteach her how to exist again.
So it's been a little hard, but I think it's for the best because she was in a momentous amount of pain.
She honestly seems so much happier. She does.
She's so much chiller now, and she seems like she's like, ugh.
Yeah, because before she was having all this pressure issues and they were telling us that it's like a migraine to a dog to have all this pressure behind your leg. ocular cavity so we had it removed on the recommendation of our amazing vets and we're we're going with it but i just wanted to thank everybody for being so sweet about it i know everyone was really supportive and everybody's been like asking for updates so i just want to say you guys are fucking awesome and thank you so much and bailey loves you all I love you all.
It's so weird to hear you call Bailey Bailey because we never call her that.
I literally call Bailey. Her name is not Bailey anymore.
Booshka. Babooshka. Booshka booshka. Goobernation station.
The bub. Boosh. Bubba. Boop. Boopa Nation Station.
Boopa. And then it goes into like goob, goop, goobin, goopy loopy.
It's like shit. He's just your bubba. That's what I say.
She's usually bubba. That's what she's become.
That's what the kids call her. That's also what I call Annie.
But yeah, I just wanted to thank you guys again before we jumped in because you guys rock and I love you so much and I feel very lucky that I have you all.
To care about my pup. Me too. I feel like the weirdo community is so great.
Yeah, it just made me feel warm and fuzzy.
It should. And I came up with a really good idea.
I personally think that we should dress Bubba. like a freaking pirate for halloween she needs to arg it up arg maybe so i think we're gonna do that because she's beautiful oh my god are you going to i think we should i have to go to pet smart tonight do you literally want me to get you a costume a pirate costume I got Franklin and Lux bat wings and it turned out to be a big waste of money because they almost clawed my eyeballs out.
Yeah, cats will do that. Yeah, they sure will.
Well, anyway, speaking of Halloween, we next week.
Holy cow. Right. Yes. Holy shit. Holy cow.
I know. Holy cow. Holy cow. Holy shit. We're all of a sudden censoring our terrible potty mouths.
I wasn't even. But anyways, next week for the week leading up to Halloween, we are going to be doing a virtual live show because we really want to see your faces. and we can't, so... I was like, well, we won't.
But we wanted to be with you, so... The Monday, Wednesday, Friday leading up to Halloween, there's going to be three shows each focusing on a different part of the world.
I think we've got Australia. I know. We've got Australia, North America, and Europe.
And it's going to be at your local time.
So we will wake up at 530 in the morning for Australia and do a show for you.
And we can't wait. Oh, girl, we're going to have to wake up way earlier than that.
The show starts at five for us. Yeah. We're going to be up at like 3.
Yeah. I'm stoked. So guys, it's going to be awesome.
We're going to be so punchy. You know us when we're tired.
Oh yeah, you've met us, right? And there's, so I think there's still tickets left and you can get tickets at onlocationlive.com slash morbidworldtour.com.
It's going to be a ton of fun. Have we said we're dressing up?
Yeah. We're dressing up for the occasion.
We're going ham. Elena made something for one of her costumes last night.
And she was like, oh, do you want to see the... beep oh you know what i'll tell you what it is because it's not really giving away exactly what Okay, you can.
It's an Elizabethan collar that I made because I found like a DIY thing about it.
And she just like whipped it up last night.
So there's your hint for one of my costumes.
Yeah. What could it be? I feel like I can't give a hint at all because if I hinted any of my costumes, it would give it away.
Yeah, it would. I'm being very specific things.
Yeah. It's going to be exciting though.
We're excited about it. Yeah. So I think that's all the...
Well, I think the only other thing we wanted to just mention was with Halloween coming up again, it's all coming off of Halloween.
Crime Countdown, our other podcast with Parcast.
We've been having so much fun with it, guys.
And we are doing like a big Halloween episode.
So you got to go listen to it. It's going to be fun.
I think you're going to love it. There was a lot of fun to it on Monday.
It was a lot of fun to record. It was. And when it's fun to record, it's always a good outcome.
So it is. Listen to them on Mondays. That's when they drop.
And I think you guys will dig it. so go look at that if you need some extra spooky spookies if we haven't provided you with enough random episodes Yeah.
But I think other than that, we can just dive right in.
All right. So this is your episode. It's Elena centric and it's haunted.
This is my spooky October haunted episode.
Cool. And I decided to cover... Myrtle plantation.
You know, I've never heard of myrtle plantation.
That's insane to me. Well, here I am, insanity right in your face.
You know why it's insane to me? And it's actually Myrtle's Plantation.
I should have said it earlier. Plural. It's Myrtle's Plantation.
Well, that's okay. I've never heard of Myrtle's Plantation.
Yeah, you're like, oh, Myrtle's, of course.
Yeah. No, it's known as one of the most haunted houses in America.
Oh. Yeah. Where? So it's in Louisiana. It's in St.
Francisville. And like, you know it, right?
Yeah. Yeah, I've done that. It's in Louisiana.
It's beautiful. I mean... It's like Spanish moss hanging everywhere, kind of just like picturesque.
Is that where you found out that you can buy Spanish mosh?
Mosh. Some Spanish mosh. So maybe. So I looked at the picture and I was like, oh, gosh.
And I was like, oh. And when I saw it, I was like, Spanish moss is so spooky and I would just love it if I could just cover my whole yard in Spanish moss, but we don't have it here.
Yeah. And then maybe I looked online to find out that I could buy Spanish moss if I want to and put it on my trees and maybe I'm considering it.
I don't know. We won't talk about it. Either way, it's gorgeous.
Someone's going to be like, that causes death and decay to all plants.
Someone will yell at me. me about it but it's fine i'm probably gonna do it so fuck it uh but But yeah, it's cool.
If you didn't know, you can buy Spanish moss for your own fucking stuff.
You don't know, now you know. But like Louisiana, good on you.
So but this, you know, this is kind of the case with a lot of plantations like antebellum plantations.
They're haunted. Haunted. Well, they are haunted, yes.
But they're also beautiful on the outside.
But that's because they were maintained and kept that way for years.
Right. on the back of human suffering and racism.
So... I just wanted to put that out there right now that I'm like, it's a gorgeous place, oh my goodness, and not recognize the fact that There's a reason it's beautiful because it was maintained.
Exactly. That way. And that it's not by the owners.
And that it's from an error. An error. An error.
And an error. And an error. A huge error in history, I would say.
You were not wrong. And now, of course, the present-day owners are the ones who take care of it, obviously.
Yes. Back then, you know, I just wanted to put that out there that I acknowledge at the time that this was taking place you smell what we're stepping in you do But unfortunately, it's just the truth.
So, of course, there's like a real aesthetically beautiful vibe to these kind of places.
Especially Myrtles. Yeah. And if anyone just heard, I just took the time to say especially and not expecially. for you did you hear that i almost tripped i did gross elena growth But, you know, the paths are riddled with tragedy and tales of human degradation, so...
There will be a little bit of mentioning of that here.
So we're going to start off with the guy who made it all happen.
Myrtle. General David Bradford. Wasn't expecting that.
Myrtle. I'll let you know why it's named Myrtle Slater.
I hope so. So General David Bradford was known as Whiskey Dave.
There's a reason for that. In 1783, he became deputy attorney general for Washington County.
He was also a member of the Pennsylvania General Assembly and into the 1790s, he was becoming more and more unhappy with the direction the government was moving in.
Again, 1790, so this is very early in our United States.
He did not agree with the centralized government that the Federalists, like, alexander hamilton we're trying to make happen so he was not for alexander hamilton Oh, he wanted to be in the room where it happened.
He would have been on that side. So people in Pennsylvania were... really pissed about the excise tax on whiskey that was approved by Congress on March 3rd, 1791.
1971. 1971. Might as well be. So yeah, 1791.
They were pissed about it. It's like in Hamilton when he says, when you taxed our tea, we got frisky.
And this is what happened. This is what happened.
Here we are. So around 1794 shit was going bonkers and Pennsylvania was in legit rebellion.
Because all the drunks were pissed. They were mad, like you're taxing our whiskey.
That same year David Bradford, General David Bradford led a militia of five to seven thousand men in Pittsburgh to protest and fight this whiskey tax.
Wow. So he was the leader of this whiskey rebellion, it was called.
Okay. So now Washington, or President Washington...
Him. Was like, you know, that guy. Yes. Do you remember Washington?
Yeah. His name is George. Yes. George. He's married to Martha.
White hair? Yep. That guy. Okay. So he was like, oh, I'm going to fuck you all up.
I feel like he said it a lot calmer. oh, I'm going to fuck you all up.
Correct. And he started ordering his own troops to shut this rebellion down.
And he was leading some himself. So he was like, real not for this.
Thank you. So David's only shot was to get the fuck out of there.
But it may not have just been this whole rebellion thing that he needed to the fuck out of there for because if you remember at this point it is not the full united states yet so them going to louisiana meant they were out of the country that's so weird like they were not in the original colony right right right Yeah, which is weird.
But the thing was, it's sure it sounds nice that he had to run away from this whiskey rebellion that he was leading. but he apparently also had some issues with a fellow slave owner.
Uh oh. Because remember, they're all slave owners. should have some issues with the fellows or with a slave owner not everybody should have issues with slave owners yeah So apparently he had successfully lawyered a case, David had. where this enslaved man should have to... Or this enslaved man that was enslaved by this douche that he was... feuding with apparently and this is so awful it sounds because this is like talking about you know not registering your pet You know, he had not registered this man properly.
That like makes my skin crawl. It's horrific to talk about a human being.
Yeah. So he had not registered this man properly.
So General David Bradford had argued that he needs to free him.
And this fellow slave owner was pissed about that.
So this fellow slave owner threatened to kill him.
So people think he might have... got out of dodge because he was also being you know stopped by this guy threats So he got out of Pennsylvania and he ran all the way to Louisiana.
He probably didn't run, but you know. Forrest Gump style.
Exactly. Once there, he was able to get a Spanish land grant that allowed him to get 650 acres of land.
Oh, just that many? Just a little bit. Now, this is where he built the original eight-room Myrtles Plantation in 1797.
He had originally named it, though, Laurel Grove.
Mmm. He already had five kids, and then once they all moved in there with him and his wife Elizabeth, they had five more.
So they had 10 fucking children. A lot of kids.
Wow. In 1799, he was finally pardoned of his whiskey rebellion fugitive crimes.
Yes. By President John Adams. John Adams.
Yes, him. Brought to you by Hamilton. Yep, this whole thing is brought to you.
As soon as they mentioned him, I was like, whelp. going to sing the whole thing.
Unfortunately for him, though, he only enjoyed it to 1808 when he died of yellow fever.
Oh, no. Tons of people dying of yellow fever here.
Is that scarlet fever? Nope. Oh, it's different?
No. What's yellow fever? I love that you're like, yellow fever?
Is that scarlet fever? I think Scarlet Fever, you get a yellow rash.
It's called yellow something. I can look it up.
We'll look it up. So I looked it up and they're not the same, but they could be caused by the same bacteria.
So there it is. So that's probably what you were thinking about.
Also, Yellow Fever is also called Yellow Jack...
Black vomit or American plague. That's gross.
And it's an acute viral disease. So it's not awesome.
Most of the time it was very severe. So that's what he died of in 1808.
Delish. That's going to happen a lot. So the land ended up going to Judge Clark Woodrisp. who was his son-in-law who had married his daughter Sarah.
During General Bradford's time living in the house, he had actually had law students bunk with him a little bit. when he was teaching.
So Judge Clark Woodruff was a law student at the time and he stayed with him and ended up falling in love with his daughter.
That's like a really cute love story. It's real cute.
Woodruff had worked under Bradford, so it was like this whole like rom-com.
I was gonna say sounds like it's adorable and there's also a story that says their romance really bloomed under the crepe Myrtle trees on the property Wow And that's how the house got its nickname that eventually became its forever name.
Because of the crepe myrtle trees. So together they had three kids, Cornelia, James, and Mary Octavia.
So he had taken over the plantation really when Bradford passed away and had added on to the planting and farming that was like running the whole operation.
So he really grew the place. In 1823 or 1824, I could see. both in different sources.
His wife, Sarah, and two of his three kids died of yellow fever.
James and Cornelia, the legends say, and we will get into the paranormal part of this particular legend in a bit, but the real legend says... that Clark was kind of an asshole.
I mean, you have to be an asshole to like own people.
Yes. You know, so there's that. But I guess like he was like people considered him a decent person in that time in other respects.
Okay. Now this plantation had many slaves working and living on the property.
Mm hmm. Although he was married to Sarah, who he supposedly had a beautiful love affair with and made a family with her.
Uh oh. He was also forcing himself on the women who were working as slaves in their home.
Okay, so he was horrifically disgusting.
So... That's what I mean by that problem he has.
Yes. So one such woman was named Chloe. and she worked inside the house as opposed to outside in the fields. which apparently would be considered the absolute worst kind of slave work. oh because you're in you know you're in the elements you're in the you're not having water it's not like they're sitting there like giving you hydration or anything like that.
It was pretty horrific. They were just out in the sun all day.
I thought you were saying being in the house was worse than being out there.
And I was like, wait, what? No, but I got that.
Yeah. The way you said it. All right, cool.
But yeah, it's way worse to be outside. Obviously, both of them are terrible.
Right. Like, If you've got a pick, you want a pick to be inside the house.
Exactly. versions that I found of this story that involves Chloe.
Okay. I'm gonna tell you both. The first one is this.
So... Chloe didn't really have a choice in this matter, obviously.
She was also a teenager. Oh, no. Because if she said no to him, shit was going to be really bad for her if he didn't just outright kill her.
Right. Probably anybody she loved. Chloe obviously was smart because she knew that if Sarah, the wife, found out that it would also be a ton of trouble, like a whole nother mess of trouble.
Yeah, just from a different end. So she started listening in on their conversations to see if she could pick up any suspicions so she could like prepare herself.
And she's smart. Yeah. So while Clark caught her one of the times that she was listening into the conversations and had her ear chopped off.
Oh. Yes, so she wore a tight headscarf around her head from then on to cover. the wound what a horrific beast and they said it was like a green headscarf she wore Now, obviously she's not happy.
No. Because who would be happy getting their ear chopped off after being like, raped by this man right now as a revenge plot she poisoned dinner one night Yeah, she did.
It's either she poisoned dinner or poisoned a cake.
There's like many different versions. Eh, whatever.
And Sarah and two of the children ended up dead days later.
Now, this made the other enslaved humans on the property... nervous because if Clark found out it was Chloe, it would be bad for everybody.
Right. They could be seen as accomplices.
So they dragged her out of bed, hung her from a tree, and then after she was dead, they weighted her down and threw her body in a river.
So that's the first story. Okay. The second story starts off the same with an affair. and him forcing himself on her.
But this time, he started having an affair with another enslaved human other than Chloe, while still a fairing with Chloe.
And in this one, She was nervous that he was going to get bored of her and stay with this other chick and she would be relegated into the field. right so it wasn't because she wanted to be with him it was just i don't want to be put outside right which makes sense So she thought of a plan, and this plan was one of two plans.
The first was to lightly poison the kids and then nurse them back to health to show how necessary she was working in the home.
Unfortunately, she overdosed them and died, which is hard to... to nurse back to health from.
Right. The other positive, the other motive for poisoning the cake was to kill Clark.
Because he cut her ear off and likely raped her several times.
Yeah. Yeah. So it could be either one. Both stories are told.
Either way, in the end, this legend says that two of the kids died and the wife died.
Wow. So this one ends the same way that the other slaves were freaked out.
They thought they were going to be guilty. she is dragged out of bed, hanged, and thrown in the water.
My god. Apparently Clark closed the dining room where the dinner was eaten and wouldn't allow it to be used while he was living there for the rest of the time.
Yeah, that makes sense. But here's the thing.
Oh. So it's on record that Sarah, the wife, died of yellow fever.
Right. So she wasn't poisoned. Yeah, so this is all lies.
And two of the kids died within a month of each other after Sarah. both of yellow fever as well okay so mary octavia lived for a long time after Yeah.
So I think now this story is told sometimes at Myrtle's Plantation.
This has been a legend that has really survived.
No matter what... There is a, there is a Cleo or a Chloe, excuse me.
There is a Cleo too later. But there is a Chloe.
So Chloe exists. We just, I don't think there was any poisoning involved in anything.
No. Something happened, but we don't know.
I think probably the part about him cutting off her ear is true, and maybe that's the extent of it.
I wonder if that's where it ends. It's like there's really no record of any of this, so we have no idea.
All we know for sure. is that Sarah and the two kids died of yellow fever, and that Mary Octavia survived well into adulthood.
So this is, I wanted to say it because this is a legend that is in many sources, it's repeated at Myrtles Plantation.
So I thought it was important to put out there at least.
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Start your free trial in Apple Podcasts Spotify or the Wondery app So after the deaths, this is when he officially purchased the land and the home from Elizabeth.
And they all lived there together until she passed away in 1830.
So from his mother-in-law. Yeah. January 1st, 1834, he sold it to Ruffin Gray Sterling.
Ruffin Gray Sterling. Old Ruffin. Wow. And his wife Mary Catherine Cobb.
They had a modest nine children together.
They were super wealthy and very well known in high society.
Ooh. So she looked at this beautiful house and said, surely it's stately and gorgeous.
But let's renovate the fuck out of it and really make it befitting our status. like Beetlejuice style.
Yeah, because she was like, eight rooms, honey, please.
We got nine kids. So the renovation was very extensive.
It turned it into what it looks now, which is gorgeous.
So Sterling added an entire southern section to the home.
Which I don't know what that is. I literally was like, what?
I'm assuming it's just a section that is in the south wing.
I don't really know. I don't think I have a southern section.
Why didn't you look it up? It's they removed walls and rebuilt them to make four large rooms and these large rooms were ladies and gentlemen's parlors, and not together, a ladies' parlor and a gentlemen's parlor.
I love it. Because forever the two will not meet.
No. There's also a big dining room, something called the game room.
They added a ton of railings outside, like little details.
They raised the second story by one foot because they had really tall ceilings when they added the addition.
Love it. The home was doubled in size. It ended up having 22 rooms.
Damn. And they renamed it The Myrtles. Love it.
Now, it is said they already were starting to see paranormal shit happening because they installed some things that point... to seeking protection from spirits well we all know that a little runny runny bastion A little runny runny.
For a second, I was like, what does that mean?
A little runny runny patient. We'll stir that up.
HDTV. They hate it. I'm telling you. So apparently they installed locks upside down.
And this was done to confuse spirits trying to get into the house.
That's funny. They put a stained glass window on the front door that had French crosses all over it which are used to protect against evil.
Love it. So people think they knew what they were doing.
Oh, now he died of rough and died of consumption.
I thought you said Ruffin died of Ruffin no he didn't die of Ruffin he died of consumption or tuberculosis poop on Gillette I know oh I was like oh no remember when I made that joke before and everybody was like what What?
So he died of consumption on July 17th, 1854.
Apparently his son died the same year from straight up murder in the house over a gambling debt.
Oh no. He left all his land and home to his wife, Mary Cobb, who apparently was like a business maiden.
Love it. Or Maven, I meant, not Maiden. But according to American Hauntings Inc., people thought she had, quote, The business acumen of a man.
A man? A man, you say? A man? Which is so sweet and not offensive or all sexist.
At all. Yeah, that's so cool of her that she was like a man.
I wish I had the business. adventure of a man i'm so proud of her uh of their nine children only four of them live to the age to get married oh no So that's not a good stat.
This is maybe a fucked up thing to say, but I think that's why people had so many kids back then.
Because it was just playing the odds. I really think so.
Yeah, it was hedging your bet. It was like, We're going to get one of them to adulthood.
At least. We'll leave this house to one of them, I guess.
I hope. So apparently the Civil War was tough for them because they got looted by Union soldiers and their vast money was in Confederate currency, which was useless because they lost.
Real bummer for them. Because again, like when, That was like a real currency back then.
But when the Civil War went down, all of a sudden Confederate currency was like...
Like, you can't use that anywhere. So they had vast wealth in that, but then, nope, you don't anymore.
Uh-oh. At some point, one of her daughter's husbands was murdered on the front fucking porch.
Oh Jesus. and actually died in the house, some say.
So her daughter, Sarah, and her husband, William Winter, They had been married June 3rd, 1852, on the property.
They had six children. There was some back and forth as they, you know, as they tried to hold on to the plantation because there was a lot of debt.
Because remember... Like that currency is not happening anymore.
And it changed hands a couple of times because of hard times, but they got it back eventually.
Yeah. There was just a bunch of back and forth I didn't want to go through at all.
That's fine. In 1861... Their three-year-old daughter, Kate, got yellow fever.
Oh, no. Three. That's horrible. Baby, baby, baby.
They were desperate to save her. Yeah. So they contacted, because they had tried everything.
Yeah. They contacted a local voodoo priestess named Cleo.
Mm-hmm. She stayed there with Kate for like days.
She was doing what? It was just the best thing.
I was like, what happened? And she was trying to save her.
She was trying to do rituals and magic, but Yellow Fever was a real bitch and Kate passed away despite her attempts to save her.
No. And she like stayed in her room. She did everything around her bed and everything.
But she passed away in the bed. William Winter was apparently furious, obviously, because he's probably overcome with grief.
Yeah. And... The problem here was he wasn't angry at like yellow fever, which would be where you should direct that rage.
He was mad at Cleo. So he blamed her and he had her hanged.
Are you kidding? Yeah. And obviously Cleo was a black woman.
Yes. So at that time, easy peasy to do because everybody sucked.
So this is, and of course he's just going to blame her.
Right. So this is legend, and who knows if it's really true, but I'll mention it later.
I'm going to mention later why it's important to say this story, like exactly how it happened.
Okay. In 1871... William was apparently teaching Sunday school in one of the parlors and heard someone clomp up on horseback outside the home. and the person was like william yeah so he went outside and whoever it was who was like William!
Whoever it was just shot him. Oh shit. Yeah.
And it was on the side of the house. He stumbled onto the porch and then into the home.
Legend says he struggled up the stairs but only made it to the 17th step.
And died in his wife's arms on January 26, 1871.
I'd love to feel bad, but I don't. Yeah, and they could never find who it was either.
Nobody knows who it was. No one saw him.
It was karma. It was a guy named Karma.
According to the newspaper, a dude by the name of E.S.
Webber... was set to stand trial for the murder, but nothing ever came of it.
I couldn't find anything else. He skipped town.
He skipped town, yes. So Mary Cobb and her daughter Sarah lived in the Myrtles until 1880 when she passed away.
Everybody's just dying. Left and right in the myrtles.
So many people die here. So it then went and it's getting changed like hands and owners so much.
I know. It then went to son Stephen and then changed hands out of the Starling family a few times over.
Basically the place was in debt and hard to manage.
That was the problem. Because it's fucking huge.
So then Harris Milton Williams bought it in 1891 and moved in with his wife and young son.
Eventually they had six more children, as one does.
I was literally just going to say, only one son?
One child? What? And they're like, fuck you, seven.
They're like, seven, take that. and they grew the plantation a bit, like the farming portion of it.
Then during a storm, Stephen's son Harry I think it was his eldest son was trying to get the cattle in and he like some of the cattle I guess had wandered so they were like you got to go get them.
So he went to get them and he fell into the Mississippi and drowned.
Jesus. Yeah. and the Myrtles was given down to another son, who I think is named Sergit?
Oh, good old surrogate surge. We got roughing, we got surrogate.
We're okay. And he lived there with his wife and what was described as a spinster sister.
Is that me? Shit. I'm always at your house and I literally think I am a spinster sister.
You're the spinster sister. I love that.
Eventually. Eventually the property became divided to all the Williams kids.
It was like subdivided. Then it went into the hands of Marjorie Munson.
Oh, love that name. We love it. An alliteration.
Marjorie Munson. This was in the 1950s, and this is when the paranormal activity really started coming to light.
Oh, this is the 1950s now? So we're all the way up now.
So... That's when the family first started seeing strange things and hearing strange things.
I believe it. But it was really in the 1970s when the Myers family purchased it and turned it into a bed and breakfast.
Oh. that reports started flooding in. Duh.
So this is when the specter of Chloe or at least a slave woman matching the description of what Chloe is said to look like.
Okay. This is when she started making herself very known.
Apparently she'll wake you up by standing next to you while you're sleeping and she'll just be holding a candle.
Hi, Chloe. Or she'll tuck you into bed. Because Chloe's a fucking sweetheart.
If you fall asleep and your blankets are not scooted on in, you'll wake up with all your blankets tucked in.
That's awesome. Isn't that cool? I love to be tucked in.
I was going to say, I never fall asleep without my blanket tucked in.
See, I fall asleep tucked in, so she wouldn't have anything to do.
So maybe she would just wake me up with a candle.
Yeah, maybe. Thanks, Chloe. So even now, people see Chloe, like full body apparition on the site.
I love that. They know it's her because she's wearing the green head wrap to cover her mangled ear.
In fact, there's an absolutely infamous photo that was turned into an official postcard at the Myrtles.
So in 1992, the owner of the Bed and Breakfast was asked, was asked, what's up? was asked by insurance to take photos of the outside of the Myrtles to show the distance between the various buildings on the property.
This was to help the underwriters, the insurance underwriters, with creating an insurance policy for like fire damage.
Money. You know. So she did it. And when she did it, she caught...
What is pretty clearly a woman in a turban style head wrap between the two houses.
Oh. And it matches the description of Chloe.
That's so It really does. This apparition is transparent.
You can see the house behind her, through her.
That's the coolest thing And she's like leaning up against one of the houses.
It almost looks like she thinks she's not in view.
And she's like looking at the camera. It's very creepy.
I love it. We'll post it. A patent researcher named Norman Benoit. went to the plantation in 1995 and began researching this photo because he was like, what the fuck? he did determine that the dimensions of the apparition were exactly correct for a real human being.
So he was like, no matter what happened to this photo, that's a real person.
Oh my goodness. Now, remember Cleo, the voodoo priestess that was hanged for not being a miracle worker and curing yellow fever?
My girl. Well, people think maybe this woman with the headscarf hanging around the property may be Cleo and not Chloe.
Why? Well, because of the whole weirdness with, like, the Chloe story.
Yeah, and it seems like these two things are a little intertwined and it could get confused.
So people think maybe that... Because when you look at our...
Because Chloe's supposed to be a teenager in the story.
When you look at this woman, it looks like an older woman.
OK, like maybe it's I mean, it's weird to say that, but like maybe it looks like one because she is an apparition.
So it's weird to tell. But I think it's just people think it could be either.
Huh. Now, the bed that Kate... baby Kate, three-year-old Kate, died in is still there in the house.
Why? And it shakes violently out of nowhere.
There are gouges in the hardwood floor to show how violently it moves.
That is like one of the things that scares me the most.
And there's another photo proof of a young girl apparition that's pretty compelling and unexplainable.
I'll post this one too. The photo was taken of a teacher and her students there for a field trip, and behind them in the window Is a young girl in like antebellum era clothing.
Goodbye. Staring out the window. And it's, like, clear as day.
That's so creepy. And you can see everything but, like, through her body.
Ugh. Very creepy. So Myrtle's called in Dave Young of Paladin Paranormal for his opinion on this photo because they were like, what the fuck?
He saw nothing to suggest it was tampered with or photoshopped.
Okay. So he sent it off for a second opinion.
He sent it off to the Society of Psychical Research in England. which is apparently the oldest and most well-respected and renowned paranormal research group out there.
I think Harry Price was part of that. Oh, there you go.
So they said... Nothing was done when developing this photo and they could point to nothing that was done to tamper with the photo.
Either Harry Price was part of that or they fought against him.
I don't remember. Either way. But they know their shit.
They're all up in these stories. So there is a mirror in the front hallway that's over 200 years old.
It's like the original mirror. We don't fucks with old mirrors.
No. So people often say they see spirits in the mirror.
Believe it. They see a woman and two children, thought to be Sarah Woodruff and the two kids.
And people say they will see them, like, together crying or just standing there staring at them.
Oh. Which either way is... It's fucking terrifying.
Are they, like, trapped there? I have no idea, but I hate it.
I do, too. Like, I hate that. I don't like a mirror poltergeist.
Oh, I'd be out. I'd be out of the state.
I'd be out of the country. I'd be like, nope, Audi 5000.
I can't deal with that. People often also see hand prints and drip marks on the mirror and it looks like the drip marks and the handprints are in the mirror Like not on the surface.
That's fucked. And no matter how many times they clean it they keep appearing.
That would stress me out so, so much. Yeah, it's a lot.
Some owners have replaced the glass and they still return.
Wow. And in the gentleman's parlor, there is a blood stain, people say, from the murder of the Union soldiers that never goes away. away what and maids of like of the actual bed and breakfast have tried like scrubbing it off And it either reappears or doesn't come out.
That's so nuts. I mean, blood is very hard to get out.
It is, but not years and years and years.
So people also hear screaming on the property. like random disembodied screams.
Awesome. They also hear little kids voices often because I mean there was what I think according to my tally there was about 467 kids that roamed this property at one point or another and also died.
I was going to say all of them died. Like, they're all just dying a yellow fever everywhere.
Right. They also see kids playing a lot, and they'll hear them playing a lot.
Uh, they'll see them in, like, the hallways, they'll see them outside, out on the porch like people will follow like the sound of a child thinking it's a real child and then the child will just like laugh and disappear.
I hate it. Yeah. Or they'll hear them and find that no kids are there and not ever see them.
They'll just hear them. That would make me really sad.
I know, because I'd be like, you all died.
And you're all just kids forever. Yeah. People hear footsteps on the stairs, and these footsteps also stop on the 17th step.
Oh my god. Yeah, I'm saying. This is the creepiest thing in my opinion.
Oh, fuck. There's a doll room? No. Bread and breakfast?
Nope. Nope. People will wake up to suddenly see all the dolls tossed about the room.
Shut the fuck up and get right out of here.
They have also reported their hair or arms being tugged on by little child hands in that room.
And some have even said that they wake up and a doll is suddenly laying next to them in bed.
Ew! Fuck off! Yeah, I would... No. I would... Nope.
I was all down for like going to this bed and breakfast and I am gone like the wind.
I'm going. Have fun. Like, once the Rona is, like... out of here yeah i want to get down i want to get to louisiana i don't know who you're going with I mean, I want to get to Louisiana anyways, because Nolans, but I need to go to Myrtle's Plantation. don't know who you're going with.
Just to see this situation. You going alone?
Someone will go with me. Not me. I know it.
All right. I know someone will go. Um, so I think, and that's why we drink covered this and they wanted to go.
Oh yeah. Or at least Sam wanted to. So I'll find a friend.
Okay. You and Em go, me and Christine will drink wine at a hotel room and wait for you guys to come back shitting your pants.
There you go. I like it. Sound good, everyone?
I like it. So people will also hear guns firing everywhere.
Apparently, another man was killed during a robbery on the property.
And he's seen walking around and also just screaming, please don't.
That's not funny, but, like, I'm uncomfortable.
Can you just picture this? Please don't!
Just constantly. That's fucked. It's not funny at all.
Death is not... Death isn't funny. No, we're serious.
Death becomes us. The idea of a ghost walking around.
Just randomly go, please don't. It's pretty funny. is pretty funny i'm sorry that i cackle i love it so again we got to make some kind of funny here It's a spooky episode.
We can be silly about it. Sorry, I just, like, slapped the shit out of my microphone.
Slapping the microphone. So that's funny.
Oh. Please don't. Stop. A young girl. This is creepy.
I don't like this. Oh, okay. A young girl who's said to have like curly hair.
She's wearing like an old dress. Nope. has been seen floating outside the window of the game room.
And it looks like she's like trying to look in.
Like she's like putting her hands. on the glass to be like, hello, can I see in there?
I'm kind of here for that. I'd be like, get the fuck out of here.
I'd be like, bitch, teach me how to do that.
Just floating. There's a piano, obviously.
And the piano plays by itself, obviously.
No way, Jose. But it will play often the same chord over and over and sometimes it will keep going into the night.
And when you walk in the room, it stops.
But when you leave, it starts again. They're like, I don't want an audience.
So they're like, don't look at me. They're not confident in their musical abilities, which if they're playing one chord over and over, it's like, I get it.
Maybe it's like a little kid that only ever learned one chord. when someone walks in the room.
Yeah, you made me feel like an ass, but cool.
You're welcome. A television miniseries remake of The Long Hot Summer.
It starred John Don... John Donson. Don Johnson.
Who? Who did it star, though? Don... Johnson.
Okay. I said John Don-son. I know. Sybil Shepherd, Ava Gardner, and Jason Robards was, it was partially filmed there.
And when they moved furniture in a room for a scene, they left for a second.
And suddenly when they came back, all the furniture was back in place. shut up and they were all terrified they all say that this happened they couldn't wait to stop filming there they were like get me the fuck out yeah fuck that One day, while somebody who worked there, he was like a gatekeeper there, while he was at work,
He said a woman who was in a white old-fashioned dress just walked through the gate without speaking to him, like just walked past him.
Stop. And he was like, um, excuse me? And she just walked right up to the house. went through the front door without ever opening anything, and he quit his job immediately and never returned.
Love it. He was like, nope, I'm good. I'm here for that energy.
And then I found this blog and I also wrote in my notes, um, blog, which is funny.
And then I found this blog. I found this blog and it was great.
I found this blog. And it is CamilleFay.com.
I don't know if she's updating this blog now, but I figured I'd give her a little shout out.
She wrote a blog post, My Experience at the Most Haunted House in America, the Myrtles Plantation.
Oh, shit. Her experience was nuts. She had tons of weird smells.
Her bed was shaking in the middle of the night.
I hate. And she said it felt like someone was taking it and literally moving it side to side.
I had a bed when I was younger that shook in the middle of the night. yeah well murder splantation so been there done that you can feel right at home there And she said she got up at one point in the middle of the night to like try to shake it herself to see. it was like what it would take she said it was way too heavy to shake that's so so she's like there's no reason this thing should have been shaking and she said she was sharing the bed with her mother and she was like I kept waking her up being like they're shaking the bed oh and i was like and she said at one point she felt a childlike presence crawl into bed with her between her and her mother in the middle of the night.
And she said if you ever have had, if you're like a parent and you've had a toddler crawl into bed with you in the middle of the night and like squish beneath, like between you, that's what it felt like.
Okay, so I just screamed nope, but then again, that made me really sad.
Because it's like a little kid who's crawling into this bed being like, can I snuggle you?
You know what? I would snuggle a little ghost child as long as they were good.
As long as they were not demonic. Don't be demonic and I'll snuggle you.
That's all I'm asking. That's all I'm asking of you.
Yeah, it bummed me out, but... Wowzer. That is Myrtle's plantation.
It is, huh? Yeah. And you can go visit there if you want to.
With Elena, because she needs a guest. Guys, let's go together.
I'm not going to be there. So have fun. Well, it looks like, I just wanted to double check, you can book tours there still.
I think even through Rona. So they have day tours, they have evening tours, they have private tours. shit.
They have something called a Baton Rouge pickup tour.
And that looks like it is hoping to make it to the Myrtles, but need transportation?
We got you, covered so they'll pick you up they'll pick your ass up to the myrtle so dang And I think it looks pretty rad.
They have covered it on Discovery Channel, National Geographic. um the travel channel they've done like the ghosted that's where i first saw it is I don't know if it was Ghost Adventures, but it was one of those ghost shows.
And, like, the most terrifying places on Earth.
It's been on those ones. Obvi. And I remember seeing it, I mean, I was living at my parents' house when I first heard about this, so I was young.
You were but a child. I was but a child.
So I've known about it for a while. But yeah, it's definitely been on like all the lists.
If you look at any list of one of the most haunted places in America, it's always like... pretty close to number one yeah if not number one yeah and then it's usually on lists of most haunted places in the world too so Which it makes sense because I think about 135,000 people died in that house.
Wow, you really upped that count. No, I said that about the kids.
But now there's like, I can't do that quick of subtraction, but there's a lot.
A lot of adults that died there. Many more adults.
Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. So, guys, I know that, you know...
Plantations are one of those things that are problematic. if you might if you want to say um but you know this one is just very interesting because it's so freaking haunted like that's just got so much history to it like random deaths in the house yeah And then like the photo proof that goes with it.
That is wild. The photo proof thing. The photo proof is really bonkers and I'll definitely post photos of it for everybody to see.
But yeah, if you want to go, it's in Louisiana.
You can get it all. you can stay in a room and conquer Yeah, and apparently if you stay in William Winter's room, I think it is, is the one that the bed shakes.
Well, so mark me down for none of that. Mark me down for whenever Rona pieces out of here.
Mark me down for some wine by myself that night.
So I hope you enjoyed that. I hope it spooky spookied you out.
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We want to swear that you buy a plantation and you put all this money into it and then it changes hands all the time, all the time, all the time.
Not so great that you have slaves on your plantation and you do really horrible things to them like, you know, like such as having slaves.
Don't do that. That's really. awful and don't keep it so weird that you kill anybody in your house or that you die in the house with all your kids and haunted dolls.
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