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Hey weirdos, I'm Alayna. I'm Ash. And this is a spooky morbid.
It's a morbid and retrograde. It is a morbid and retrograde, guys.
Thanks for watching! Guys, are you experiencing the lack of communication with legitimately everyone in your life right now? or like are things just not going your way blame it on mercury are you crying for no reason at all are you crying because you didn't get a close enough seat to the drag show And you wanted it to be special for your mans.
Are you crying because of that? Because I did last night.
Thank you and good night. It's, you know, usually I'm very, like I'll buy into like my, I'm like very Capricorn.
You are, bitch. I buy into that stuff. A lot of this stuff, though, I'm very questioning about.
I'm like, eh, I don't know. No, no, no. But...
The way that today has gone, the way that the couple of days has gone, when you said Mercury is in retrograde, I was like, I'm a believer.
Because Mercury, first of all, I'm a Gemini.
I'll blame it on that. If you don't know.
Are you a Gemini? This is actually an astrology podcast for now.
But no, so I'm a Gemini. Mercury is my house planet.
And when so retrograde means mercury is moving backwards.
Yeah. So everything is all fucked up, especially for me.
And everyone else. It feels that way. So you know what?
As skeptical as I am and as like this is silly as I am, I'm willing to blame it on that because otherwise i don't know why everything is so fucked up you just have to be a little patient with technology, a little patient with communication, a little patient with everything.
And just like try your best to communicate eloquently.
And if you get fucked up, just scream about retrograde.
I think that's what I'm going to do because it just seems like everywhere you turn, you're like, what the fuck is going on?
When in doubt, cry. When in doubt, just scream.
Scream and cry until you get your way. This was brought to you by Ash.
If anyone else is feeling that way this week, feel free to blame it on Mercury. yeah that's what i'm gonna do fucking mercury man let's do it together let's all be weird and silly together Isn't it funny how like nobody ever is like, oh, Jupiter's in retrograde.
It's always Mercury. It is. I don't know what it's about.
Little bitch of Mercury. So, on a good note... we have virtual shows coming up that we've been so excited to announce.
Yes, so if you don't follow us on Instagram, you didn't see the good news.
Woohoo! We're doing... Three shows. A world tour.
A world tour. I'm like, you go. You do the intros.
You do it. So we wanted to do it so that people in different time zones could not have to to like watch at like crazy hours or not be able to watch because of the hours.
And we were like, we would have loved to do a world tour in real life, so let's do one virtually.
Yeah, until we can do it in real life again.
So we're calling it Halloweek, and it's leading up to Halloween.
We are doing an Australia show, so it's going to be 8 p.m. local time Australia.
Yeah. 5 AM our time. 5 AM our time, which we're psyched about.
I love waking up that early and like doing fun stuff.
I think it's gonna be fun. It's gonna remind me of Black Friday.
There you go. We're also doing a Europe. show and that's going to be 8pm your local time as well, which is what time for us?
3 p.m., I think. So that's going to be just like nice.
I'm just going to have to pretend it's nighttime.
Hopefully it rains that day. Yeah, there you go.
And then we're doing a North American one, which is gonna be 8 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time. Yes. So... We are going to cater... It's going to be three different cases for each of us, each of those shows.
So you're getting six different cases. And each case, like...
Australia Day is going to be for Australia.
It's going to cater to the region. You know what I'm saying?
And on top of that, we are going to be really Halloweeny with it and we are going to dress up.
But you don't know what we're going to dress up as.
You don't know, and it's going to be something different for each show.
So we really went like ham on this. So if you want to get tickets, you can head on over to onlocationlive.com. slash morbid world tour.
And if you forget that or like it doesn't take you to the right place, the link is in our Instagram bio.
There's tons of options on the website, so just make sure you read thoroughly. that you're getting the right show for you, if you want a poster.
Just make sure you read because it can be confusing.
There's a lot of options. Many options for you.
Many options. But we're excited about that and we're going to tease out our costumes a little bit ahead of time. that tonight yeah i think we're gonna like just post a little like snippets just because it's fun and we're very excited Yeah, I haven't been able to dress up for Halloween in a long time because once you have kids, you're just not. really paying attention to your costume.
Yeah, I haven't dressed up for a while. And then this year it felt like we weren't going to be able to because where the hell are we going to go right but then we had a reason I know I have like four costumes this year because I have three for the shows and then I have one for your kids.
Yeah, because we're dressing up as the Toy Story characters for my kids because...
Yay, kids. So we're excited about this. We hope you guys are excited.
And I think... Do we have anything else going on?
If you're a Patreon, stay tuned. At the end of the episode, we are going to shout out some Patreons.
We're trying to do that one episode per week, just so you know.
One episode a week, and we're doing it at the end of the podcast.
So just hang out for that. And a new Patreon episode will be dropping soon.
I can't tell you what day because we have, I think, a thousand and four cases that we're trying to get done in two weeks. it'll be in there somewhere yeah uh but i think yeah i think other than that we're just gonna start our show and you're doing a haunted one this week yes you're taking the haunt remember all of october we october All of October.
All of October we decided it was spooky.
So we decided. We're going to do one of our episodes that's going to be a spooky, weird, paranormal, spooky, spooky thing.
And then the other the other episode will be like straight up true crime.
Yeah. So I chose the spooky one. This this. week because yours was so fun last week.
Thank you. It was a lot of fun. The rectory, the Borley rectory, that was... amazing they're a little looser of an episode and you can like like have a little more fun Yeah, I feel like they, because, you know, it's easy to make fun of paranormal stuff, like not make fun, but like have more like silliness involved.
Be goofy. with it because it's not like real people like you know dying nothing goofy about the Chicago Ripper crew Nothing goofy about that.
Fooked me up. Yeah, that's no good. So the one that I am covering today is The Whaley House. in San Diego.
So if you're in San Diego, you probably know about it.
You've probably been there if you're a weirdo.
There you go. So it's located at 2476 San Diego Avenue.
In historic old town San Diego. Apparently the location is really cool, actually.
It's like kind of smack dab in the middle of like a ton of shit.
Such as? Like, just like downtown stuff, like restaurants.
Shops. Yeah, like it's in the middle. It's really cool.
That's cool. So this was ranked by Travel Channel as the most haunted house in America, which that's a pretty good distinction.
Let's go. In 2005, Life magazine called it one of the most haunted houses in America.
So I did the most haunted house in England and you're doing the most haunted house in America.
There you go. Perfect. We did it. So, this house was built on the site of a pretty gnarly hanging.
So we start out right away. This house is built on a spot where you were just asking for ghosts.
It really is. Like 100%. Way back in 1852, a small-time crook named James Robinson, or better known as Yankajim, Yankee Jim.
Yankee Jim. Yankee Jim. I just made it really weird.
I was like, whomst Jim? Yankee Jim. Yankee Jim.
He was caught stealing a rowboat. He did this with another accomplice.
But he was the one who was hanged while the accomplice really only got like a year in jail.
He did not row gently down the stream. Yeah, this was likely because Yankee Jim was a literal like infamous thief around this place so he was always stealing shit so I think they just had enough and were like we're gonna do this not cool And we're just going to hang you like we shouldn't do that.
Don't know. But I'm saying he was definitely doing this for a long time.
Now, this alone is a bummer for Yankee Jim.
Yeah. But the way the hanging really panned out was...
Not great. Why? Not great. Sorry if you just heard that my leg fell.
So he was a big guy. He stood at six foot four.
So he was John's height, which is very tall.
Tall boy. If you have brushed up on your torture and execution methods, which I hope you have.
I mean, we do hope you all have. then you're aware that by the mid-19th century, the short drop style of hanging was totally out.
And the long drop was all the rage. Yeah, because you've got to make a show of it.
And this was by the mid-19th century. Again, by the mid-19th century, I mean by like 1866.
So this is 1852. We weren't at the long drop yet.
Oh, so apparently that in 1866, when it changed to the long drop method, this is just a little history lesson for you.
Thank you. Apparently that was when a doctor was like, whoa, this short drop shit is real fucked up.
Like why are we doing that? Because you suffer for longer, right?
You're literally just strangled. Choking to death.
And he was like, why are we just letting people strangle to death?
There's a better way to do this. He was like, let's be humane and give them a chance to break their neck first.
That's so humane of us. So this doctor, Samuel Houghton, determined that there were three ways to die from hanging at the moment.
And these are exactly what he said. One, by apoplexy caused by pressure on the jugular veins.
Two, by asphyxia caused by stoppage of the windpipe. and three by shock of the medulla oblongata, which caused by a fracture of the vertebral column.
And then he wrote, in the first two cases, so apoplexy on the jugular and asphyxia of the windpipe, He said in the first two cases, death is preceded by convulsions lasting from 5 to 45 minutes. which are caused by the cessation of the supply of arterial blood to the muscles.
But in the third case, death is instantaneous and painless and is unaccompanied by any convulsive movement whatsoever.
Is that true? So to me, that seems bad. Yeah, because you're breaking your neck, so you're done.
And this is great. And it led to the long drop methods of hanging whereby the person is dropped from a height calculated relative to their weight and it hopefully causes their neck to break and boom, they're dead painlessly.
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Whoops. So the short drop method, it was for Yankee Jim.
Oh, Yanka Jim. That's right. He was hung on the gallows after being kicked off a cart with a noose around his neck. so low that his tiptoes were scraping against the ground.
Hocus Hocus Pocus style, and he strangled for upwards of 45 minutes before finally dying.
Oh my god. According to the local paper, quote, he kept his feet in the wagon as long as possible but was finally pulled off He swung back and forth like a pendulum until he strangled to death.
That was in the old-timey paper. What a poetic paper.
So nice. So who is who's in that crowd?
And who's gleefully watching this execution be botched?
All the children in the town. Everybody.
Everybody. And one guy in particular named Thomas Whaley.
Oh. So Whaley was born in NYC and his family had come from a Scottish Irish background.
They immigrated actually originally to Plymouth, Massachusetts.
Massachusetts, what, what? You know that rock?
That was in 1722 that they originally came over.
But Thomas had moved across country to California during the whole gold rush scenario.
Ah, gotcha. There he opened up a small business with a friend and it was huge because of the influx of miners and workers in the area during that time.
And then a fire destroyed the building and it looked like all was lost.
Well, shit. Well, he tried to open a few more businesses with some other people, but it wasn't panning out.
He was having trouble. Right. So he ended up moving back to New York City.
There he married his high school sweetheart.
Love. I know. I know. Anna Eloise Delaunay.
In 1855, they both moved together back to San Diego.
Once they were there, Thomas was like, huh, where can I purchase land to build my future home to fill with children?
I know, those gallows where I watched that giant man strangle to death for 45 minutes.
So he did this on purpose? Yeah, well, he was like, oh, look, that land is for sale.
That's where I saw that guy die. And then they were like, wow, you can have this land for real cheap. because it's built on a gallows.
He was like, cool. So he bought it for like nothing.
So obviously he did not believe in the paranormal.
He didn't. He was not. He was like, whatever.
He bought it for nothing and he built a $10,000 home there, which back then was like, oh boy, bitch a ten thousand dollar hole yeah so he bought the land where yankee jim was brutally strangled to death in the gallows.
Just want to keep putting that in there.
Just a friendly reminder from two minutes ago.
This guy bought that land. So the San Diego Herald at the time called it the finest new brick block in Southern California.
Hell yeah. So it was a pretty good house.
We love that. He built on this land a granary. and connected that to the home and a general store that he ran. know what a granary was so I looked it up in Webster dictionary and it's a storehouse for threshed grain.
You don't know what threshed grain is? I don't either.
So I looked that up too. It's to separate seed from a harvested plant mechanically.
So they sold rice there is what you're telling me.
Bunch of grain, basically. Right, right.
They had three kids in this house, Francis, Anna, and Thomas. i love the name francis i do too i think it's very cute it is He opened another general store closer to town in the plaza.
So, like, things are going well. Mm-hmm.
Except that everyone was immediately starting to hear shit in the house as soon as it was built.
Cuz Gallows. Cuz Gallows. Can we get that on a shirt?
Cuz Gallows. Cuz Gallows. I really think.
That's genius. I'm going to email the people.
It's honestly an answer for everything. Because gallows.
Like what's that sound? Because gallows.
Yeah. Uh, so everyone, cause gallows was hearing the footsteps, like one word.
They're hearing all these footsteps. They're hearing like bangs.
There's always footsteps walking around the living room.
In particular. Lots of cold drafts, I'm assuming.
Well, exactly. So the living room had an archway, like still has an archway.
It's still there. It has an archway that leads into like the parlor part of the living room.
Sure. And this archway is supposedly exactly where the gallows was.
Oh, shit. Yeah, so they all assumed it was Yankee Jim doing all this stuff.
And they just dealt with it because what the fuck do you expect when you buy the plot of land that a dude was brutally strangled on?
He's gallant. Because gallows. So this is when the family really started having bad luck, though.
Oh, and Anna would later say the wife would later say like she believed this house was cursed. absolutely duh at only 18 months baby thomas died of scarlet fever in the house oh no And around the same time, a fire destroyed his other store and it was said to possibly have been arson.
Oh, shit. Which is like, whoa. Side note, I didn't really know a lot about scarlet fever.
And then Allison explained it on The Strange and Usual.
Yes. On her most recent episode. And we already told you to go listen to that.
But seriously, listen to that. It's so good.
Sorry, I had to. And it's just so good for this time of year.
It really is. It is. So this tragedy on tragedy on tragedy pushed the family to move from San Diego to San Francisco.
So they left the house vacant for a little while.
Never. Because they were like, we need to get out of here.
It's like... In the Borley Rectory when it kept being fucking open for like dead for just six months.
Exactly. So they were like, let's just move to San Francisco for a little while.
Um, and Thomas was like, I'm going to get some work.
We're going to just kind of chill out for a minute and like get over this.
That's a big deal. Yeah. And so in San Francisco, Thomas and Anna ended up having three more kids, Violet, George and Corinne.
Cute. So according to whaleyhouse.org, in 1867, Thomas Whaley assisted in the American takeover of Alaska. where he established stores in Sitka and helped set up an American base and served as councilman.
So he was busy. I was literally just gonna say he's busy.
He's doing the damn thing. There was an earthquake in 1868, and this made the move back to San Diego to the Whaley House.
Oh, no. So they still just owned this house?
They did, yeah, because they were doing it.
And I think they were also, at one point, they started renting it out to people, which they continue to do.
Sure. So they're like, great, let's just pretend none of this happened.
They begin working their general store from the property again, and they turn the granary into the San Diego courthouse.
The courthouse was renting that room. Oh, cool.
And they used three rooms upstairs on the second floor as record storage for the courthouse.
So they definitely were like bringing in some moolah.
Big deal. So they also turned a part of the house into San Diego's first theater. because the Tanner Troup Theater stayed and rented a room in the house between 1868 and 1869.
Huh. And it's like set up like a theater room.
This is like a smorgasbord of a house. It's a cool house.
So around 1871, the courthouse wanted to move with all the records to Newtown.
But Thomas Whaley was like, um, no, you have a lease.
Uh, so he was like sure you can break that lease if you pay me a lot of money so they didn't like this no So in March 1871, while Thomas was out of town on business, there was a violent raid of the Whaley house where those records and court documents were forcibly removed from the house.
Oh no. To be relocated to Hortons Hall on 6th and F in San Diego.
So they didn't even go to Newtown? Well, they did.
I guess that's part of Newtown. Oh, and during all this, Anna Whaley was held at gunpoint on the ninth step. on the ninth step of her staircase leading up to the second floor.
What does that all mean? by this whole angry mob.
So that's a trauma event. I mean, like they removed those records forcibly with an angry mob and held her at gunpoint while her husband was out of town.
Now people call it the legend of the ninth step.
And they will feel this horrific presence and a feeling of dread on that step.
Oh, I don't like that. It says it feels like someone's trying to stop you from going further up the stairs.
Because they are. Yeah. And they will literally feel like pressure, people say.
Oh, that's so spooky. During the following years, there were instances of footsteps constantly around the home.
Thomas was the one who first noticed them, but Anna said she always felt a certain sense of like doom and foreboding in the house.
She said the tragedies were probably all attributed to this ghostly presence.
She felt this was cursed. In 1882, Violet and Anna were married, like the two daughters, Violet and Anna.
Sorry, I meant daughter Anna. Yeah, yeah.
They were married, which meant that they were killing the game back then.
Yeah, duh. You're not going to be a spinster.
You got married. Heyo. So daughter Anna was married to her first cousin.
Cute. Woof. Named John Whaley. Whoa, cute.
So the cool thing is she didn't have to go through the whole like change your name process because they were both named Whaley.
See, that's convenience. Very convenient.
Unfortunately, Violet's husband, George T. Bertolacci...
Don't know if I said that right. Don't care because he sounds like a dick.
Oh, okay, good. He turned out to be a dick, so they got divorced.
Oh, scandal. So scandalous. Disgrace upon your family.
Talk about it, because... This was 1882.
She was humiliated, even though he was a dick.
And like she... she couldn't take it anymore, like he was an asshole.
Yeah. They had to get divorced. She was treated like shit.
Because you're just supposed to shut up and take it.
Yeah, she's supposed to shut up and deal with it.
She was literally treated like an asshole because he was an asshole.
So on August 18th, 1885, after dealing with all this shit around town and from everybody, Violet... just absolutely devastated of being bullied and harassed and treated like shit. went out to the backyard into a building back there and shot herself in the chest with her father's gun.
Wow. Thomas Whaley, her father, found her and carried her into the home where she died in his arms.
Oh, God. So already we're having a lot of really traumatic things happening in this house.
Thomas Whaley actually died in 1890, so not too long after. only like five years after.
Yeah, probably with a broken heart. This was after moving the family out of the house again after that.
Oh. He died after years of trying to get the town to pay for the damages done to his home during that raid.
And also getting justice for the literal assault on his wife.
Yeah. They never gave him a cent. I believe that.
He got nothing for it. In 1909, son Francis moved back in.
To the Whaley house. Sure. To renovate it all because it had been sitting dormant.
So they were like, we got to do something about it.
It went into disrepair and all that shit.
Yeah. So between those times, it was literally just empty.
Spookies. Shit's just like festering in there.
And like emptiness is just cold and sad.
Yeah. And then he and when he went back, he was renovating, which we all know that ghosts hate HDTV.
So they are not into it. That was a really good joke.
They're not into it. That was like a callback to our episode with Em.
Oh, yeah. I didn't even think. I literally have the worst memory.
Just doing a callback, guys. Go listen to that episode.
Hi, Em. So in 1913, daughter Anna died in the home.
Oh, my God. Or not daughter. And excuse me, wife and wife.
And she died in. the home and soon the kids, Anna, Lily, and George all moved into the home again. but all of them besides Lillian also died in the home.
It's like insanity is like doing the same thing multiple times expecting different results guys.
Yeah. Like we got to maybe leave this house.
I don't know. Sell that shit. So nowadays, this house is a museum and you can go there, you can take tours, self-guided tours.
But a lot of shit goes down in that house.
Hell yeah, it do. So apparently the piano often plays by itself.
And it's like an old ass piano, not one of those new ones that you can like hook up to play by themselves.
And it'll be like, it's like creepy shit.
Like, it'll be like... You know, just like really like slow, just one key at a time.
It must be so fun to be a ghost. Oh my God, I would fuck with people. it would be like I would just be lolling constantly like can you imagine just like trying to play like a Britney Spears song on the piano or something and like scare the shit out of people I would just play Alaska Thunderfuck constantly there you go Um, so the, so chandeliers swing, lights swing.
The lights will turn on and off even though some of them aren't even like... like hooked up to the main electrical thing, so they're on their own circuit.
Sure. Electricians have come in and checked and there's nothing wrong with the wiring, so there's no reason for them to flicker.
Creepy. Doors open and close, footsteps are often heard around.
People will hear the sounds of people eating and like literally having dinner in the dining room.
What? Like hearing utensils scrape against like China.
Ghosts gotta eat. Yeah, and then people also during this will smell like the meal is being cooked that's just harassment they'll smell bread and like pie and stuff and then they'll go in there nothing is nobody's in there If I smell bread and it's not on the table, get the fuck out.
I'd be pissed. I'd be. real pissed. Like you smell a chicken dinner and you go in there and nobody's in there.
I'm about to write a strongly worded letter to the afterlife Like, do not fuck with me with food.
No. heels walking quickly down the hallway and they think that's Anna Whaley.
They'll often hear children playing and laughing.
And like tiny feet like running across. Oh, tiny feet.
Yeah, right. And they see impressions in the second floor of people lying on pillows when No one's there.
Figures are also seen from the outside of the house in the windows.
Hey, that's the worst. And it'll be when no one's there.
Yeah, it's the worst. Also, this is interesting because it's This doesn't happen often, but they have their family pets have come back to haunt the place.
Because Pet Sematary. Exactly. So they had Dolly the dog and Winx the cat. when they were living in the house.
People will see a dog and cat often. And they will see them inside and then when they'll say something to the employees like, oh, they're so cute.
They're like, we don't have animals in this house.
That's so creepy. And they'll also see them like running in the back garden together, like chasing each other.
Cute. But there's no animal there. That's okay.
Or they'll just disappear. That's okay. I love that.
Now, remember that the granary was turned into the courthouse.
Oh, yes. Yep. Well, people will hear a gavel pounding randomly.
Oh, shit. And like unmistakably a gavel from up there.
And like rice spilling on the floor. And rice spilling.
From the rooms where the Tanner Troupe Theater stayed for a while, people will hear like vaudeville music.
And like laughter and conversation. Like there's a lively get together there when no one's in that room.
So they're jovial in the afterlife. They seem very jovial.
Now, Thomas, the infant who died at 18 months of scarlet fever.
Yeah. People say they do hear him because they'll hear a crying baby or they'll hear a cooing baby, like a laughing cooing baby, but there's no baby there.
That's weird. Yeah. In the place under the archway... between the parlor and the living room where yankee jim was hanged um People will feel their throat suddenly constrict.
No thanks. And will feel like they can't breathe or that they have to cough.
Oh, and people say they like randomly people walk through that.
You just like took a big breath. I literally had to take a deep breath.
I had. If I think about not breathing, I have to breathe.
But people will walk through the archway and suddenly be like...
Like, will I have to cough suddenly? Or like, what the fuck was that?
A tour guide said he has that Yankee Jim seems to have a sense of humor. as well.
I love that about him. He said, quote, sometimes we get visitors coming up or down the stairs, the agreed location of the old gallows.
Oh, shit. One girl ran out of the house in a panic after her boyfriend noticed the thin red lines.
Which, can you imagine Yankee Jim being like, how does it feel, everybody?
Just like lulling from the gallows. From the gallows, because gallows.
Yeah. According to whaleyhouse.org again, the former curator of the museum, June Redding, who apparently passed away, so R.P.
June. said we had a little girl, perhaps five or six years old, who waved to a man she said was standing in the parlor.
We couldn't see him. Oh, shit. But often children's sensitivity is greater than adults.
However, adults have reported seeing that man as well.
And they think it's Mr. Whaley. Oh, so I bet he's happy.
I hope he is. It's a museum. now i really hope so he wanted it to be something apparently he's usually standing on the upper landing on the second floor And people said they see him clad in frock coat and pantaloons.
The face turned away so she couldn't really make it out, but then he'll fade away.
Oh. But he'll just kind of stand up there looking all distinguished.
And then be like a dramatic exit. Like he's looking over his castle.
If I was a ghost and I was like pantalooning in the top and then I disappeared, I would just go.
Like I would make that noise. Do a dramatic hand movement.
And then I just, boom, she's gone. You should like, you just vogue real quick and then you leave.
Goodbye. So, in 1964, this is very interesting, Regis Philbin, excuse me. r.i.p regis this year oh my god i forgot that regis died 2020 regis philbin it's gone I'm going to feel that all over again.
I'm sorry. I didn't know it would hit you so hard.
I forgot that Regis died. he sure did in 1964 though he visited the whaley house yes and he said he saw anna whaley I bet he did.
And his quote is, all of a sudden I noticed something on the wall.
There was something filmy white. It looked like an apparition of some kind.
I got so excited I couldn't restrain myself.
Oh, shit. And he said, you know, a lot of people poo poo it because they can't see it.
But there was something going on in that house.
Hell yeah, there was. So if Regis believes it, I believe it.
Regis' word is the word of God. It's the word.
So in the mid-1800s it's said that a young girl possibly named Annabelle was running down the hill outside playing with the kids.
Not here for it. And she didn't see the clothes on and broke her neck running through it.
Ouch. She was taken. So they panicked, took her into the Whaley house. and placed her on the table to try to help her, but apparently her trachea was crushed.
Oh. She died there on the kitchen table.
Oh shit. Now people will see this little girl in the kitchen or running through the yard.
Oh thanks. Now, I took a look at several travel sites and I saw that a common occurrence as well is to feel cold in that house in random spots.
Like, you know, that's to be expected. But a lot of people feel sick to their stomach in certain spots and suddenly get like an overwhelming.
Like, in the courtroom, they'll feel sick to their stomach, and actually...
If you watch, I don't know why I'm bringing BuzzFeed Unsolved up so much lately, but Shane and Ryan.
We love them. We do. They went to this house.
And when, I think it was when Ryan was sitting in the chair in the courthouse, he said all of a sudden he felt like really... really dizzy and lightheaded.
Yeah. I don't think Shane felt the same way, but like...
Because they're you and me. We all know that.
But it's interesting because that is something a lot of people feel.
That is weird. Now another thing that's interesting is about 40 years ago, a police officer was called to the Whaley House. and he saw a ghost.
He only said that he saw this in his retirement letter when he retired from the force.
So it only came out after that. Because he was like, I'm not getting let go because they think I'm crazy.
This letter is where he spilled the metaphysical beans, if you will.
Oh, my God. Oh no, I know what happened.
When the officer got there, he heard the sobbing.
And he went back there and he said he saw a woman in period clothing crying.
And so he said, ma'am, are you all right?
And she turned, smiled at him, and disappeared.
Because it was violent. It probably was.
Oh, I got chills. I got the goosies. So, and Thomas Whaley has been known... which is like kind of rude, but kind of funny to blow tobacco smoke in people's faces. that's just great on tours I love it he likes to do it to women a lot oh okay which is interesting I don't love that Thomas Anna is also said to have worn a specific French perfume that she always wore, and people will smell that strongly.
You know that happens in our house, like our childhood house?
Yeah, I always smell my grandmother's perfume.
Mm-hmm. And Ma does, too. She always wore Chanel No.
5, and I smell it. Fuck yeah, she did. Now, Victor Santana, who was a longtime tour guide there, he left in like 2014 after like 14 years of being a tour guide wow um and he was setting an alarm one night and or putting in the code for the alarm one night In the house, when he heard a woman ask clear as day to him in the dark, why are you here?
Like pitch black in there, you're setting the code to get out of the house.
Why are you here? I'd be like, I'm not anymore.
Bye. Well, he did. He was so scared that he ran out of the house without putting in the coat.
Oh my god. So he opened the door, which set the alarm off because he didn't set the code.
Apparently the police showed up because of the code.
And when he got there, one of the officers was like, okay, we just need to talk to that lady in the parlor too.
And Victor was like, what lady in the parlor and he said the lady in the green dress she works here too right she's in like a costume Nah, brother.
And there was no lady. Oh my God. But people think that it was Anna because she's often seen in a green dress drinking tea in the parlor.
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A lot of times, like, remember when we were at the Lizzie Borden house?
People say the spirits think that we're spirits kind of thing.
Exactly. You know what I mean? Like they're just going about their day.
And that's the thing I was thinking of too was when We were in the basement at the Lizzie Borden house.
We were on like this little handful of people were on like a tour.
I will never forget this as long as I live.
Clear as day. And the tour guides were downstairs with us.
And she looked freaked out. And all of a sudden you heard a woman say, hello from upstairs.
Like think of how many times you've been alone in your house and you're like.
Hello? Yeah, because you feel something.
Like, we're in their space. And that's what the tour guide... And I remember the tour guide was actually like... went pale and was like, yeah, no one's upstairs.
I promise you that. And she said, she said as much as we think you know, she's a ghost, she doesn't understand that she's dead.
Right. And she thinks we're ghosts in her house.
Because you get like trapped. So she might hear us and be like, hello?
What's somebody doing down there? Do you believe in parallel universes?
I don't know. It's a lot for me to comprehend.
Do you think in a parallel universe they're still there?
Yeah, maybe. And that's what goes on. And, like, another thread of time or something.
Yeah. I picture like Donnie Darko with like the little like time travel bubble.
You know what I mean? like gooey thing that comes shoots out of your chest i think we all have to follow it We just don't see it.
Yeah. Or maybe in like another timeframe, you know, they're the ones alive and we're all ghosts.
Perhaps. We don't know it. Fuck. I'm just saying.
Whaley House. Are we dead or alive? What is happening?
I don't know. So unfortunately, the Whaley House right now is kind of struggling with the pandemic.
Because people can't come on, you know, like they're having trouble.
Well, you can take a video tour. of the Whaley House.
That's cool. And I'm going to link to it in the thing.
There's also a Q&A with the Whaley House historians. that you can participate in.
I think it's on October 25th. I'm not positive.
I'll double check it. We'll link to that too in case you want to do that.
I think you can also send them some donations and like they're always looking for stuff like that.
Yeah. They also have a store where they have a lot of books about the Whaley House and the history and all that, which if you're into that.
Feel free to go on there and buy from them because, you know, we want to keep these places up and running as much as we can.
Because even like the Lizzie Borden house was having financial issues staying afloat.
And I'm worried about them. Is that why they, I know the Lizzie Borden house is different from Maplecroft.
Maplecroft, right? Yeah. Is that why they sold it?
What? Maplecroft? I think so, yeah. Oh, that's really sad.
Because Maplecroft, in case you didn't listen to the Lizzie Borden episode. is the house, the mansion, that Lizzie and her sister moved into after their parents were killed.
And they named it Mabelcroft. And she died in that house.
Like that was her home. Because her sister moved out.
Yeah, they had a falling out. And so Mabelcroft turned into a museum. and it's so cool and they were really trying to like redo it at the time that we went to the yeah they were telling us to go there So it looks like they weren't able to financially do it.
Has it been bought yet, do you know? I don't know if it's been bought yet, but do you know how badly I would buy that house if I could?
Donate to patreon.com slash... No, I'm just kidding.
Donate to Patreon and we'll buy Maplecroft.
And just constantly record from Maplecroft.
Yes. Oh my god. Can you imagine, guys, if we were recording from Maplecroft every week?
Holy shit. Wow. That's method acting. That's method recording.
I want to buy Mabel Cross. So badly. I want to do it.
I actually want to buy like my own house.
I don't want to be living in an apartment.
No, I want Maplecroft first. Recording at Maplecroft. living in my frat house apartment.
But yeah, that's the story of the Whaley house.
Wow. Which was built on the site of a botched execution.
Love that cuz gallows. So cuz gallows. Guys, I mean, I don't recommend buying plots of land. that have that kind of traumatic history to them.
It's not a good idea. That's really hilarious because we were just talking about buying Maplecroft.
Mabelcroft isn't traumatic, though. She died a peaceful death.
After having a falling out with her sister.
And people were really mean to her. Who gives a shit?
People used to run by and yell at her and sing the Lizzie Borden song to her.
Yeah, did you guys know that? We said it in the Lizzie Borden episode.
We found her at her new house. They would find her at this house.
So like this old woman. And again, like if she killed her parents and like. whatever all right but like if she didn't and it's they used to come and they would sing that song to her lizzie borden had an ex right And they, like, yell it outside of her house.
I would have gone, again, full method acting and just, like, sat on my porch with an axe all the time.
I'm not doing anything. I would have literally walked out slowly with a hatchet.
Yeah. Walk towards them. With like some tomato sauce on it.
Until they left. Yeah. I'd be like, what the fuck is up, you little shits?
I want to do that now. If I did it or if I didn't do it.
My whole plan is to be that lady in the neighborhood.
I don't think you need a plan. I think you're there, sister.
Look around. I know. I think I am. Look around.
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