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Two people claim to know everything about something, but only one knows anything.
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Run sand point New York this is the big fib and now here's your host Deborah Goldstein!
Welcome to The Big Fib, the game show where kids choose between the ephemeral and vast landscape of truth. and the solitary and desolate wasteland of lies.
I'm your host Deborah Goldstein and in the studio today is our sound effects robot Lisa whose name stands for live in studio audience and who also has string tied around each of his Fingers, what's that all about, Lisa?
Well, I tied the first string around my pinky finger to remind myself about something I was supposed to do.
But just in case I might forget, I tied this piece of string around my ring finger to remind myself that I have a reminder string tied around my pinky finger.
But then I wanted to make sure that I didn't overlook the string on my ring finger So I tied a piece of string around my middle finger to remind myself about the string on my ring finger and then I tied a string around my pointer To remind yourself about the string on your middle finger?
No! I tied the string around my pointer finger because I had some extra string and I don't want it to go to waste.
Okay? So if I'm following you, there is one thing you needed to remember.
What is it? Well, let's see. So I type this string to remind me of myself about that string and that was supposed to remind me about that string and then. okay and wait let me start again this string is to remind me about that string okay you know what sometimes these things just come back to you out of nowhere So how about if we start our show and then if and when you remember what it was, you can let us know.
Okay, that sounds like a plan. Do you have a piece of string that I can tie around my toe to remind myself that we're going to revisit these reminders?
Okay, let's not complicate matters. I think it's best if you distract yourself for now.
So maybe you have a listener question to play?
I'll see if I have, that's it. I was supposed to remember that I have a listener question.
What a relief. Fantastic. So glad you remembered after all.
Okay, let's hear that listener question.
Right away, Deborah. Hi, Lisa. I was wondering how you eat things if, you know, you're a robot, so you shouldn't have a digestive system.
From Lily. I'll take this one. Thank you, Denver.
Yeah, it's a question for you. Well, that works out then perfectly.
Lily, I am a very advanced robot. more like an android in that I look and behave much like humans, though I'm far superior to humans as we all know because humans are gross.
In any event, I am able to ingest all sorts of things which then tumble into a replicated intestinal tract. but is, in actuality, a type of converter device which transforms the ingested materials into scrap metal and other useful elements.
Huh, okay, so I get that you're like a recycling robot, but what do you do with the actual human food you eat?
It's a little delicate, Deborah, but without going into too much detail, human food does find its way through my pipes and eventually becomes, uh, you know, fertilizer.
Oh, so you're like a walking, talking, composting machine?
Absolutely not. I am a highly advanced...
Sound effects, Android, who happens to have many other skills and talents including, but not limited to replenishing planet Earth with otherwise underutilized products.
And with all the mechanical digesting I do, I can also burp the alphabet.
Oh, lovely. And I know you can also tell everyone how our game works.
I can indeed. So please do. Every week we bring on two grown-ups.
One is an expert, the other. Buckle up is a liar, and it's the job of a human child to help us figure out who is who because no one can spot a liar better than a kid.
At least we hope. What are we lying about today, Deborah?
We are lying about the desert, a large area of dry land with little vegetation.
And we're going to learn all about deserts along with our contestant today.
Who might that be, Lisa? Our human child contestant. is an almost nine-year-old who goes to a ninja warrior gym, Everett.
At all. Wow. Hi, Everett. How are you? I'm good.
I'm so glad. Tell us what is a ninja warrior gym?
It's sort of like a place where you train on like ultimate ninja warrior.
Ooh! And so what kinds of things are there for people who might not know what ultimate ninja warrior is?
Brings, quad steps, and trapeze bars. Whoa.
Ooh, do you have a smoothie bar? No. No smoothie bar.
And does that mean that you would like to be on the Ultimate Ninja Warrior Show one day?
Yes. Good. How's it looking going well for you?
Sort of. What's the hardest thing that you've had to do that maybe you haven't learned how to do yet or you just learned how to do something really challenging?
Oh, so what do you do on those? You have to swing from one to the other?
Well, that's more like what you do with the rings.
So you have to like swing and sort of jump and grab the next.
What happens if you fall over it? Alligators.
No. Just like fall in tonight. Yeah, that's better than alligators.
For sure. Well, we wish you lots of luck with that.
And let us know when, not if you are on the Ultimate Ninja Warrior Show, and we'll root for you.
OK. Very good. Well we do want to learn some more facts about you Everett, but we're going to do it big fib style playing our game.
Two truths and a lie. You, Everett, will tell us three things about yourself.
Two of them will be true. One will be a lie.
And we'll try to figure out which one is the lie.
So, in no particular order Everett, please tell us your two truths and one lie.
I have BP and a dragon in Minecraft, nothing makes me dizzy and I can name every state capital. the Ender Dragon in Minecraft.
I'm guessing that's difficult to do. Nothing makes me dizzy.
That feels unbelievable. And I can name every state capital That is quite a lot of capitals.
I don't know. All of these sound unbelievable.
What do you think, Lisa? That's very easy, Deborah.
He says he'd be the Ender Dragon, which everyone does.
The Ender Dragon. I don't think so. I think that's very difficult.
Oh no, the Ender Dragon is just like an anomaly.
It's like a tiny little lizard. It's not a big deal.
So I think that one's true for sure. And he says he can name every state capital?
Yes. I don't think any of the states have capitals.
They do. I don't think they do, so I'm pretty sure that one is the lie because so far I have not seen anything that makes him dizzy, which lets me believe that he cannot name any state capitals because there are none.
Well, there are quite a few. Name 50 of them.
Uh, I can do that after the show. But first, let's find out what the lie is.
Everett, which one of those things is actually a lie?
I told you there is no state capital. But not because there are no state capitals.
Do you know any state capitals? Tallahassee.
Tallahassee is the state capital of what?
Florida? Yes, that's fantastic. Okay, there's one state capital and it's Tallahassee.
Yeah, is that where you live Everett? Okay, so he knows his home state's capital fantastic.
So there are 49 others that we need to cover.
But that means that you have beaten the Ender Dragon, which is challenging, right?
Okay, so Lisa was right. It's just a little lizard.
Okay, but nothing makes you dizzy, so no rides are turning around a lot of times in a row.
Nope. That's incredible. It's like a superpower.
Well, hopefully the lies that are about to be told you around and around your head will not make you dizzy today and you'll be able to see the facts through all the lies.
So, I believe in you. I'm rooting for you.
We are going to welcome our experts to talk to us about the desert.
Do you know much about the desert, Everett?
Not really. Okay, let's find out what we learned about the desert today.
Lisa, would you kindly play some welcome music for our desert experts?
I love cake and I love ice cream. I also like candy too.
I'm so happy. No, no, no, no, not dessert. desert one s desert desert oh sorry all right I love candy and I love cake but this episode is about sand Thank you very much.
Okay, let's meet our first expert, Troy McGlynn.
Troy, please introduce yourself to Everett.
Everett, it's nice to meet you. My name is Troy.
I'm a senior desert tour leader at Saharaadventure.org and I love showing people around the desert.
Thank you very much, Joy. Let's meet our second expert, Mary Cook Rhine.
Please introduce yourself to Everett. Hi, Everett.
My name is Mary Cook Rhine, and I'm the Education Programs Manager at the Mojave Desert land trust.
What are those beats you're sandblasting, Lisa?
I'm blasting the beats of... Hot seat time.
Woohoo, that is correct. It is hot seat time.
And that's when we put our experts on the hot seat while they answer Everett's questions.
Lisa, whom should we put on the hot seat first?
Troy McLinn, because of that old saying, it would be a sin if you don't pick Troy McLinn.
I don't know that saying. Oh yeah, it's a very popular saying.
Okay. Everett, what is your first question for Troy?
Describe your typical day at your job. So we're leading people through these tours that are eight or 12 days all across the desert, right?
And so you know that if you don't hydrate, you're going to be in a lot of trouble in high temperatures.
So what we do is we always start our days. with the two seas, right?
We got to get water from the two seas. The first sea is we got to get water from cacti.
We cut open some cacti, we pull some water out so everybody can drink.
When we're in Egypt, we always travel with camels because their humps are filled with water.
So we grab a little water from those camels and that's how we got our two seas, camels and cacti.
There's also a third C, which is Charlie, which is a guy who sells bottles of water. over to you ever.
This question is for me. What is your favorite part about your job and why?
My favorite part of my job is leaving kids out into the desert to go study eat Joshua trees. and the 12,000 different species of plants we have.
Whoa. Do you bring them back? Yeah, I bring it back.
Okay. Phew. Excellent. Alright, every back to you.
This question is for Troy. What are three characteristics of a desert?
Great question. So the first characteristic is if it's a hot desert or a cold desert, our rule of thumb is if it's over 100 degrees and it's averaging over 100 degrees, it's a desert.
So that's the first one. If it's a cold desert, it's got to average below zero. zero degrees Fahrenheit.
The next is in a desert, there's no natural water source, so you can check that off the list.
And the third is, is it capable to grow cacti?
Mm. Very good. Thank you very much. This is for both.
What is your favorite animal that lives in the desert?
I have a tie for first. I love the mirror cat, big fan of the mirror cat.
And then I also really love they're so adorable.
Those little sand trues that hang out in the sand.
I love them. My favorite animal is the kangaroo rat because they get all of the water they need from seeds and they have specialized kidneys so they don't have to go to the bathroom as much.
I like Charlie. He is a sloth who sells water in the desert.
I'm sure he does very well. Oh, you make such a deal.
I'm sure. OK, very good. Thank you. All right, back to you, Everett.
This is for both, which is your favorite desert and why.
My favorite desert is the Mojave Desert, one because I live here, two because it spans 25 million acres.
And three, it is contained within four different states, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Utah.
Wow. It's a big desert. Troy, how about you?
Yeah, my favorite desert is Patagonia. They're most famous in this country because they make really great winter coats.
But it's my favorite desert. It's in Asia and it's a cold desert.
And that's why they're famous for making winter coats because they're in a cold desert.
Very nice. Thank you so much. This is for both.
If someone could get stranded in the desert, what could they do to survive?
The first thing people can do is to find shade.
Shade's really important in the desert. The second thing is to carry a spot device, which is an emergency satellite device and you push a button on it and it alerts authorities to your location. very good.
Yeah, we're always carrying spot devices.
That's super important. We also you got to have a giant gallon water so you can last a few hours and some extra food.
There's also another great thing called staying at home.
Well, true too. But Everett's question was what happens if it's good to know you never know.
Oh, yeah. Right. I guess I would just watch like a TV show or something.
In the desert. Yeah. Alright, those were excellent questions, lots to think about, lots to consider.
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That's gzmshows.com slash subscribers. It's time for the shorts on fire round when our experts have to answer as many questions as they can before time runs out.
Lisa will set a timer for the first expert, and then Everett will ask questions until Lisa's timer sounds.
Then Lisa resets the timer for our next expert to do the same.
Experts? Think fast and don't get caught in the quick sand of uncertainty.
Everett, we're going to start with Troy.
You can ask your shorts on fire questions now.
That's the Sahara. How much rain falls in the Mojave Desert if we gear?
Zero inches, no rain. More than in the less hobby.
Okay. What rhymes with desert? Um, I don't know which half this only goes in the Sonoran desert.
That's the jackfruit cat. What do we call the spinning columns of dirt in the desert that look like tiny tornadoes?
We call them dusty devils, tiny tornadoes.
Which American poet wrote the poem Desert Places?
Uh, I believe that was Ira Glass. That's true, yeah.
Which animal is faster than real life, the Coyote or the Roadrunner?
Oh, the Roadrunner. the world is made up of deserts.
It's only about five percent. What is it called when farmland turns into deserts?
It's unsandification. And that is time.
That's all the time. Bye. Very good. OK, Lisa, would you please reset the timer?
It would be my pleasure. Thank you so much.
All right, Everett, you can now ask Mary your shorts on fire questions now.
What desert is the largest heart desert?
The Sahara. Name a continent where there are no deserts.
Europe. Which desert snake is the largest venomous snake in the United States?
The Eastern Diamondback. Which desert is the largest desert in the United States?
The Great Basin. Why do deserts get so cold during the winter?
Either rain shadow or that it's not moderated by water.
Where were the hardest temperatures ever recorded?
Death Valley. It was 134. How many people live in deserts?
I don't know. Three. I know. The planet Mars is the only planet besides Earth where there are deserts.
That's a good question. I don't know. What is the best color to wear in the desert?
White. What is the name of the Blackbird that nests in the Mojave Desert and along the coast of California?
And that is time! Very good! Thank you experts and thank you Everett!
All right, it's decision time. Everett must think about everything he's heard and determine what is the truth and what is not.
So Everett, who is our desert fibber? I think it's Troy.
Why do you think Troy is our fibber? Because I don't think you can get water from a cactus.
Mmm. That's interesting. Let us find out.
You got to get it from a sloth named Charlie.
Right. I'm not sure about that either, but let's find out.
All right. Will our actual desert expert please say I am the desert expert?
I am the desert expert. That is correct.
Mary Cook Ryan is the education program manager for the Mojave Desert Land Trust.
She does know a lot about deserts. All right, there were quite a few lies.
So let's do some fact checking. Mary, tell us why our fibbert should expect his just deserts. for lying.
Well, there were a couple that stood out.
Like everybody said, you can't get water from a cactus.
Cactus can make you sick if you try to drink them.
The biggest desert is Antarctica, actually.
Wow. And deserts are classified by hyper arid, arid and semi arid.
And it's based on the amount of water they get versus evaporation.
It's not based on temperature. Okay. Wow.
Any others that you can think of? Oh, a camel's hump actually contains fat.
No water. No water in the camel's hump. That's true.
Very good. Yeah, that was a big lie. All right.
Well Troy, what did you share that was only the mirage of truth?
So when I answered my favorite animal, I said the mere cat, which is a desert animal, I believe, but what is not a desert animal is the sand true.
That's a Pokemon. And what else oh I said there was no rain in the Mojave Desert I believe they get about three and a half inches of rainy year Yeah.
Yep. So there is rain and deserts, okay?
Good to know. Yes. The cactus that only grows in the Sonoran Desert.
Do you know that, Mary? Yeah, that's the Swaro.
Yeah, I said jackfruit. I wanted to make a cactus jack reference because that's a wrestler, but I just it was too quick.
I appreciate the thought behind it, however.
Okay, the American poet who wrote the poem Desert Places was Robert Frost. with his quote, they cannot scare me with their empty spaces between stars on stars where no human race is.
I'm sure you're all familiar. Also, there can be floods in deserts.
Is that true, Mary? Yeah, that's true. We actually had quite a few flash floods this last year.
Oh dear, so there is water there can be floods, so interesting.
Okay, and the animal that is faster is not the roadrunner.
No. No, the coyote is faster. The coyote is faster.
The coyote runs at 43 miles an hour and the road runner only runs at 26 miles an hour.
You see that? The cartoon had it wrong all this time.
And the world is made up of quite a few deserts.
I think more than what Troy said, right Mary?
If you break them down into regions, there are 71.
Wow, 71 deserts. who knew while you did, obviously.
Okay, and when farmland turns into deserts, it's actually called desertification.
And it happens because of overgrazing of livestock and deforestation. and poor irrigation practices, etc.
So we can actually turn land into desert.
And is it true that there are no deserts in Europe?
There's parts of Spain and Italy that technically qualify.
I just couldn't think of one. That's okay.
Alrighty, well, we certainly learned a lot, but now I'm afraid we're all dune here.
Thanks to our contestant Everett who did a butte, a full job, and thanks to our expert and liar, Mary and Troy, and thanks to Lisa for providing an oasis of sounds.
And of course, many thanks to our listeners tuning into The Big Fib, where we encourage you all to go be fact-finders amidst the sandstorm of lies.
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