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There are things that happen in everyday life that can just get under your skin, right?
Like you're driving and all of a sudden somebody lays on the horn and then speeds past you, giving you the finger.
You really don't think you did anything to deserve that.
Where somebody makes an underhanded pass of aggressive comment towards you.
These moments might feel small or petty, but they stick with us.
The things that we see as petty, they can't hit us in the heart in a way that feels very real.
That's right, our Eric Thomas.
He wears a lot of hats, among them novelist, culture critic, former slate advice columnist, and long time host of the moth in Philadelphia.
Now it's easy to internalize these moments and just stew about them for days or weeks and he gets that.
I'm a grudge tender, but I've learned through years of therapy that you can confidently say to someone else, hey I actually have this thought or this problem and not feel petty or embarrassed about it.
There may be something you need to say.
Otherwise it's a sort of like, maybe I just need to let it go.
On this edition of Dear LifeKit, the series from Reporter Andy Tagle, Andy presents our Eric with several listener questions about their, yeah, petty problems, and he gives advice on how they can move forward.
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We have been lovingly calling this episode our petty problems round up because we're talking about, you know, seemingly small slides that have big emotional impact and I would love to know.
Is this a thing that you can relate to?
Oh my gosh. Every problem I have is petty problem.
I mean, one of my true delights just to sort of be able to stew in the littlest things, though we are things that a neighbor does or the way that a friend will text at a random time but never respond when I write back.
Yeah, I think sometimes petty problems can connect to larger issues but sometimes it's like life is delightful but also deeply annoying experience.
So I don't know, I get a lot of joy out of being petty.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one.
All right, we ready for these questions?
Yeah, let's do it. Dear life kit, I recently passed the bar exam and now I'm a baby attorney working at a median sized law firm.
There are four legal assistants here who help all the lawyers with their filings, their communications, things like that.
One of the other lawyers is this guy a few years older than me who will call Brandon.
Well, the other day I saw him ask one of the assistants to pick up his lunch and bring it back to the office.
Naturally, I assume this was a service for all the attorneys and the next day I asked if she could grab mine too.
She said, they only get lunch for Brandon.
Is this because I'm in the new attorney?
Is it laziness? Sexism?
I don't know what's going on here but I'm taking it really personally.
Signed Lonely Lunch. Eric, okay.
My first thought was maybe these two are dating?
Did you get up on that too?
Yeah, I think there is a big question mark around what the pre-existing relationship here is between the assistant and Brandon.
The word naturally in this question is doing a lot of work.
Like, naturally, I assumed this assistant gets lunch for everybody.
I don't think that's a natural assumption.
That is not part of a legal assistance purview.
I say this as a form of legal assistant.
I never got anybody lunch.
But I did have different relationships with different attorneys in the firm.
And some, we're very friendly and I would even say friends.
And some, it was simply a professional relationship.
So I don't know what relationship Brandon and the assistant have with each other.
But there's clearly other factors at play.
Maybe they're dating. Maybe they're secretly married.
Who knows what's going on here.
And that's the point. Like, the attorney, I think, probably should mind their own business a little bit.
I have to say. Ah, okay. I don't know.
Do you disagree? I kind of saw it the other way.
I kind of saw them as like the Mean Girls table.
You know? Yeah, yeah. We've all walked into a room before and felt like everybody was talking about us or judging us, especially if you're like the new kid in school.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, it doesn't feel good to be excluded and it doesn't make for a great work environment to say the least.
No, I understand the loneliness.
And I think the name, the name really tells me a lot that this person wants to make connections at an office.
And so I think, you know, trying the, trying your best not to take it personally, I think is a really useful thing.
And then, and sort of just imagining that the most benign solution or the most benign explanation, and then going from there, I think it would probably be the healthiest.
I really like that. Question number two, here we go.
Dear life kit, my neighbor cut down my tiny trees.
They were planted by the city and we loved them and one day they were just gone.
We looked through our camera recordings and found out our neighbor did it.
They were so small and not in any one's way.
I have no idea how to deal with the situation, but now all I want is revenge.
Signed Heartbroken Treehugger.
This one makes my blood boil.
We found this question months ago.
And it's still on my brain, so I can't imagine how treehugger must feel.
Well, this set me back in my chair because well, one, something like this happened to my neighbor.
And we like, you're kidding.
No, it's truly out right outside my house.
I come, I hear a chainsaw.
I'm going to zoom, you know, world on zooms in our houses.
I come outside a little bit later, check the mail and he's like, do you know what happened to my tree?
And I look and the tree was gone.
He's on the phone. He's trying to figure it out.
And it was so interesting and wild to me that I actually plotted out and started writing a novel where this is the inciting incident.
Somebody cuts down a tree.
Oh my gosh. I would read that immediately.
Yeah. Coming soon. So like I thought about this a lot from so many different angles.
And what I think makes it a good novel and a bad thing in reality is that it is so villainous and so unprompted that it's almost one of those things where you're like, what can you even do to a person who would who would do this?
You know, I advise no compassion for this neighbor.
Like, why would you cut down their trees?
I don't know. Would you confront the neighbor?
In this case, we know who it is.
Would you confront the neighbor?
Is it worth it? Okay. So that's a great question.
Otherwise phrase because I would confront the neighbor and no, I do not think it's worth it.
And yet I would do it anyway.
But I would advise because it's one of those things stew or say something.
And I think the stewing is going to be there is a rupture in the neighborhood.
There is a you can see the stumps on the land.
And so it's going to always bother this person, this letter writer.
So I think that they should, you know, with a friend or a spouse or whatever go up to the neighbor and say like, what was the reason behind this?
And maybe they have a reason.
Maybe they maybe a break some sort of city ordinance.
Maybe they are just grumpy.
Maybe they thought it was their tree.
Who knows? I don't think that this is going to resolve into a a beautiful understanding.
But at least getting a sense of what the reason was.
Well, I think help the letter writer get a little bit of closure maybe.
You know, the hardest part about the scenario for me is the possibility of not knowing the why.
Yeah. And just like not understanding.
And sometimes that's just how life is.
You know, we just don't get the explanations that we want or very much deserve.
General thoughts, feelings, final advice on how we can cope when there is a lack of closure, a lack of understanding.
Yeah, I think what that's one of the hardest parts of life is the the small infractions and the large ruptures where you don't have any closure.
And I think one of the things I always try and do for myself in these situations is ask myself like, what do I need from this situation to get to where I need to be?
And what gets me to the person that I want to be on the other side?
Someone who is at peace.
So I think for this this letter writer, for anyone who isn't able to get closure, I'm sort of just turning it back on themselves and saying, okay, well, this is something that is hard for me to work through.
What do I need to get me to that place?
And I think it's not always I need the truth.
It's sometimes it's I need to plan another tree or I need to talk about it with somebody else and form a little coalition.
Or I just need to I need to let it go and focus on the things that bring me joy as opposed to this one thing that this person did that was specifically targeted to make me sad.
Okay, are we ready for your final question?
Let's do it, yeah. Dear life kid, we drive eight hours round trip to see my in-laws.
And when we get there for dinner, my mother-in-law wants to know why we didn't bring anything.
I feel petty, but I'm resentful that we spend so much on gas and drive so far.
And on top of that, we're expected to bring an item they could easily get on their weekly shopping trip.
I realized that etiquette says to bring something to a dinner party, but I always thought that was for a cross-town.
Not when someone is traveling, particularly to visit immediate family.
Signed tough takeout. So Eric, before we get into this specific question, I too was taught never to show up to someone's house empty handed, but that's never really applied to my parents' house.
My immediate family, is that a thing?
I don't think so. It's interesting.
When I show up to my parents' house for, even for dinner, I might say, oh, can I bring anything?
But they live in a different state.
And they're always like, no.
But when I show up to my brother and sister-in-laws' houses, I do typically bring a little something.
But again, it is more, it always feels, whether it's friends or family, it feels more like a gesture than an actual, a necessity.
Yeah, exactly. And the thing is, we never have our host's different parties.
People are always like, oh, can I bring something?
And I say, no, because I don't want them to feel put out.
And then they bring the weirdest bottle of red wine that they have in their house.
And then you're like, now I got to look at your weird bottle.
And I want to look at your weird bottle.
I don't want to drink your weird bottle.
Leave me alone. So like, it is, I am also on the side of, don't bring anything.
Leave me alone. So despite general etiquette, these in-laws clearly have expectations.
And in my opinion, they feel a little high.
But there could be something tough take out as missing.
You know, there might be cultural differences, perhaps.
Yeah. Should tough take out say something?
Is it on them? I think tough take out should probably, because the in-laws have made the point of expressing their displeasure, asking one more question.
Like, can you just tell me a little bit more about what you want me to bring?
I mean, it might be a little frustrating for the amaz, but I think it'll also be illuminating.
So if they're like, we want to feel like there are many hands that make this meal, there might be another way of getting to that result without tough take out being put out, or feeling put upon.
Right. Yeah, absolutely.
I'm also wondering what the spouse's role is here, you know?
Like, I think maybe that's the first line of defense.
Like, is it really on the person to speak with their mother-in-law?
Should it maybe be spouse being like, hey, mom, you're being a little unreasonable?
Yeah. And this comes up a lot on your life, kid.
I feel like it's, you know, these in-law issues that where ultimately it's like your spouse has to be your advocate with their parents.
Because they understand them, they know how to push each other's buttons, because the parents installed the buttons.
And so talking to the spouse first and saying, hey, this is a weird conflict I'm having with your parents.
Can you straight this out and let me know what we need to pick up?
You know? Thank you. That'd be great.
Love it. Eric, that brings us to the end of our petty problems round up.
None of these have been life or death situations, but for one reason or another, they really stick to us.
Do you have any last advice for dealing with those small but impactful slights?
What I heard in each of these questions is a deeper emotional hurt that isn't petty.
And I think that are the things that we see as petty, that may be minor infractions and maybe minor social mistakes, but they can hit us in a way.
They get between the ribcage and hit us in the heart in a way that feels very real.
So the one person is lonely at the office.
Another person is feeling outside of their family unit.
These are things that I think can have bigger impacts.
So I think it's important to recognize the truth of our own emotions, while also one of the things I say all the time, if I'm in a sort of disagreement, is like, this is so silly, but I do feel this way.
And it's like just being able to recognize this is what's happening on the outside, but also being able to verbalize this is what's happening on the inside and they don't necessarily have to connect, but they both do need to be addressed and recognize I think is a great first step.
Before I let you go, we end every show by asking our experts for the best piece of advice they've ever received.
I would love to hear what yours is.
Listen more to the good news than to the bad news.
And I don't mean that like on Twitter or on CNN or whatever, but like information that we receive about ourselves, the bad feedback that we get can stick in our brains and the good feedback kind of washes over us, at least for me.
And so I'm trying to listen more to the good news than to the bad news.
How lovely. That was reporter Andy Tagle.
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