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My name is Jack and I'm here with my co -host, Sochal.
And today we are in the culture corner.
And Sochal, we've got a really weird question today from students, but I mean, it makes sense.
Like if you watch the news in America, I kind of understand why they would be interested in this topic.
And so I think you and I can do our best we're not law enforcement experts or anything like that we're just going based on our understanding of our own culture but the question is is it true that in the united states if an intruder comes into your home you are allowed to kill the person and you won't
have to face any charges so you won't go to jail for killing that person i think in general it's true but i do want to like say a caveat that it really depends like state by state states have stronger like standard ground laws and like gun laws and stuff like ones that put you in the right more so but other
ones are like a little more strict because um the u .s doesn't have a central government like it's not like the federal government dictates things for every state across the board states kind of make their own legislation and a lot of the federal laws are just like guidelines um so right it's a federation of states and which means
that each state can experiment with with laws that are a little bit different than other states um but there's still federal law which is the the which is is the law for everybody so it's kind of weird some laws apply to every state and some laws are just in one state or another state.
Right. Right. And so there are certain things that are like federal crimes, obviously doesn't matter what state you're in, but there are other ones that it does vary by state and gun laws and standard ground laws and things like that and self -defense laws do vary by state.
So that makes it a little complicated.
But on the whole, I would say that you're probably more likely to get away with claiming self -defense by shooting an intruder that entered your home than you would be in many other countries yeah now i agree with everything you just said i think it's great then and there's a couple other things that i
want to add to this too statistically if you have a gun in your house you are much more likely to instead of killing an intruder you are much more likely to kill a member of your family or yourself like statistically um yes you know you hear some sound in your in your kitchen you grab your gun you walk
in there you see a shadowy figure you shoot that person oh no that's not your uh that's not your uh an intruder it's your your husband or wife making a midnight snack you know i mean how many times has that happened um i think this is like a real problem with uh with with the guns in america the the the way
we think about guns um as a good guy shooting a bad guy yeah it's it's easy in the movies it's very clean and simple but in real life it's very dangerous and and often it doesn't work out the way we think it will um yeah there are tons of super sad stories like um there's some that i've read for example
there was one where a girl was hiding in a closet to prank um i think her friend who was like in the house who was cleaning his gun and they were uh i want to say like they were teenagers i think um and he was cleaning a gun uh in the household and she jumped out of the closet and scared him and he
shot her and killed her yes um this happens all the time in america little children will find a gun and uh and and shoot you know uh their brother or sister or themselves accidentally playing with a gun that they found um yeah it's it happens all the time in America.
I mean, it is absolutely a travesty and a tragedy.
There's something called, in America, we have something called the castle doctrine.
Every person's house is considered their castle.
And you have the right to reasonably defend yourself.
Now, there's another case in minesota which is really interesting i don't know maybe you know this social i listen to a lot of true crime so i know a lot of stories like this and this man's house he had been uh people had young teenagers teenagers in the city had broken into his house several times
so maybe three or four times and he called the police and they never caught the kids so what he did was he parked his car behind his house to make it look like his house was empty for Thanksgiving.
And then he got his gun and he went into the basement and he just was reading a book for a couple hours waiting for someone to break into his house.
He knew they were going to come into his house.
Once they came into it, then the two kids broke into his house.
One kid walked downstairs.
He shot and killed that kid the other one came down she screamed unarmed she didn't have a gun and he shot her anyway and then while she was injured he executed her and recorded the whole thing on audio and it and in minnesota that was considered murder he murdered those kids he did not it was not reasonable
for him to kill them.
They did not need to die.
He could have just stopped them with his gun, called the police, had them arrested, but instead he decided that he was going to execute them and kill them.
In that case, which is an extreme case, I feel sorry for him that his house had been broken into, but his actions were considered murder.
In that case, breaking an invader came into his house he was not allowed to kill them so it like you said in the beginning state by state it's different it's different in texas i think he might have been acquitted and not and found not guilty but yeah i think maybe in texas or florida some of those
states that have pretty lenient laws um he probably would have been fine yes yes which i personally I don't know how you feel, Jack.
I personally think I do think it sucks that people were breaking into his home.
But I don't think you should execute teenagers.
No, I don't think you have.
You don't get to be judge, jury and executioner in America.
You know, yeah, you shouldn't.
A lot of people. Scare them away.
Get them out of there.
Call the police and let the police take care of it.
It's not your job to to be a judge and an executioner.
um so i you know and i'm also very very anti -gun i don't think we need guns i i think uh we have this um well let's not get into the whole gun debate right now that's another no i agree jack and i are on the same side of this gun debate though it's just as jack says um i think just in a reductionist way um
it you're just much more likely to kill some yourself or someone in your family than you are, or make a grave mistake that you will regret than you are to really save or protect yourself in any way.
And as I say, having a gun or owning a gun is an invitation to get shot as well.
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subway app online orders only add -ons additional plus tax additional fees apply on delivery excludes footlong snacks limited time and also like you said it's you're much more likely to die by your own gun than you are by the gun of some intruder so i mean i know it happens people break into your house
and stuff but um this idea that we're going to you know get in gunfights like uh the wild west like cowboys you know back in the 1800s is uh it's ridiculous and right it needs to change yeah i do i do want to make the last point on this for sure because some of our students i imagine may come to america someday
or may um come as exchange students or as international students if you do so you have to be extremely careful because there have been cases um there was a case in florida for example of a japanese student who um walked up to the wrong house for a halloween party right um and just they told him like
oh just walk in when you get here i think he that he like opened the door or something and was shot and killed um and obviously i don't want to be alarmist you know this isn't going to happen to any person but i'll tell you myself when i accidentally uh realized that i've actually knocked on the wrong
door whatever i do book it out of there because you just never know what kind of nutcase is going to be living yeah and book it means means run away quickly like get out of there you know right and nutcase means someone who's a little crazy so you do want to get out of there because you just don't know
um who could be living there and what their situation might be and what they think about intruders and stuff so um yeah it is a case -by -case basis and there's some states where people own a lot more guns and the gun culture is a lot more insane like in intense like texas um yeah but yeah unlike unlike
the the you know what the what the common like myths you know that if you go to america everyone's just you know pew pew pew shooting you know guns everywhere you know you're it's not like that um no no but but there is there are moments of of extreme gun violence that occur in america because there
are so many guns and because the the laws surrounding guns are quite frankly crazy if you ask me um i think we have crazy gun laws um so just be be be smart keep you know be be uh understand the situation but you don't need to be in a full panic all the time um right while you're visiting yeah right
you you you just need to be aware of your surroundings and just kind of aware of the situation um one last one that i think goes with this as well is that jack i'm curious um were you taught um in school like how were you trained for school shootings as a kid because no this was not a thing i'm i was born
i graduated before columbine so we before the the first school shooting not sorry not the first school shooting the first kind of major school shooting that was really uh alarmed people um was the columbine shooting in 97 and i was in college at that time and uh that was uh a wake -up call you would think
it was a wake -up call for america but now we just have gotten used to these happening every week you know um which again is in is is crazy that we lived like this um so i never received that kind of training um we had tornado drills that was it and when i was young but no school shooting drills you
must have experienced them all the time right yeah i grew up with um shooting drills like we knew it would be like you would um they would announce over the intercom like there's a shooter or whatever and they wouldn't so apparently they don't tell teachers whether it's fake or real so you have to just
pretend that it's real because you don't know um and what you would have to do is um they would like lock the door and then everyone would like hide in a corner in the classroom where like you couldn't see and so like the thing is also that classroom doors have one very tiny thin window um in kentucky
because uh that prevents like a shooter from being able to like shoot through the glass and open the door um and yeah we would all have to hide and stuff and then they would like train you on like if you're in the bathroom put your feet up on the toilet and like sit there and like have this like lock
this doll door um and yeah we were we were trained and then the uh a police officer would knock on our door and then they would like open it with their own key i think or something like that and they would come in and tell us one by one that the that it was over um and that was it that was huh every
every every kid in your generation has uh post -traumatic stress disorder ptsd yes people wonder why we're such an anxious generation of the lentils gen z and millennials um and it's because we were raised like this um this was something that was just par for the course and we'd have these like probably
once a month yeah um so yeah so listeners out there think about just think about the insanity of that that we have instead of making laws against taking people's guns away we're just going to come up with uh hiding in a corner and locking the door of the school classroom i mean uh and now they're thinking
about giving teachers guns so that they can fight back again i mean it's it's insane it's insane you know it's just gonna end up with the teacher being way more likely to accidentally shoot a student or students shooting each other because also like uh i can only imagine that uh some students could just
take the firearm off a teacher um it just there's so many in in just dumb policies uh policies that are that are put forward around this issue the guns away in south korea the gun policy is so strict that even officers have to check out their own guns even if you have a gun license you have to check
out your own gun and only have a certain number of bullets and the first um bullet uh chamber in south korea on the guns for police officers is empty it's a blank chamber so they can't accidentally shoot you yeah yeah um all right welcome to america my friends yeah all right listeners well don't be
too scared by our alarmist conversation but let us know what you think in the comments below and tell us what are the gun laws like in your country i'm really curious to know how the gun laws are and how they operate in your country.
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