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Hello. This is 6 Minute English from BBC Learning English.
I'm Neil. And I'm Georgina.
I've really had enough of this coronavirus, Georgina.
People getting sick, losing their jobs, and to top it off, the pubs in some places are closed.
I know it's bad, Neil, but compared to historical pandemics like the Spanish flu and economic crises like the Great Depression, coronavirus isn't actually so bad.
You've got to look at the bigger picture – the long -term overall view of a complex situation.
Hmm, somehow that's not very comforting, Georgina.
But tell me more. Well, we've heard lots from politicians and scientists about the spread of coronavirus, but a historian's view might give us a fresh look at the bigger picture, and maybe a more hopeful point of view.
So in this programme we'll be hearing from historian Peter Frankopan, author of the best -selling book The Silk Roads.
Ah! The title of that book, The Silk Roads, reminds me of my quiz question, Georgina.
Are you ready to have a go?
I'll try, Neil, but the only thing I know about the Silk Roads is that they were the ancient routes along which people travelled the Earth.
Very good, Georgina.
Not just people, but also ideas – religions, languages and diseases travelled from place to place along these ancient roads.
But where exactly did the Silk Roads run?
That's my quiz question.
Was it... a. from South America to Europe, b.
from Africa to Asia, or c.
from Asia to Europe?
Well, since the current pandemic came from Wuhan, I'll say c.
from Asia to Europe.
OK Georgina, we'll find out later if that's right.
What's certain is that disease passing from place to place, and from animals to humans is nothing new.
Listen to historian Peter Frankopan being interviewed for the BBC programme Hard Talk.
See if you can hear the reason he goes for how diseases are spread.
Well, it's a fairly predictable thing a historian would say but change and widespread disease are nothing new.
Our ancestors all lived through big pandemics, some of them which were much more lethal than coronavirus and one of the products of living together and in high density populations going back as far as historical records go, is you find that there are transitions of disease from animals to human beings and they inflict damage.
And that damage typically you measure in mortality rates but then the economic and social consequences of disease, there's a lot of examples of history to learn from.
Compared to coronavirus, other big pandemics in history have been much more lethal – dangerous enough to cause death!
One reason Peter gives for this is the high density of populations, meaning people living together in buildings very close to one another.
In olden days this included living together with animals, making the transmission of disease to humans much easier.
Right, Georgina – like the flea -infested rats, which spread the plague across Europe in the Middle Ages.
But times change and today most people live in very different ways from people living centuries ago.
So how can we explain the spread of the coronavirus pandemic in 2020 and why have some countries been able to deal with it so much better than others.
Here's Peter Frankopan again, talking on the BBC's Hard Talk.
Listen and see if you can spot his answer.
Well, your geographical position in the world matters.
If you're, if you're geographically peripheral, like Scandinavia or New Zealand, then you have a different dose.
You have a different level of connectivity with the rest of the world.
If you're a country like the UK, which is the centre of all global flight routes, then the incidents of people coming back and forth in and out of your country, you're going to spread and much quicker.
The scorecard is very mixed and there have been some democratic systems that have been extremely resilient and robust, and anticipating it, and some that have got it wrong.
According to PETA, countries which are geographically peripheral, at the periphery or edge of things, instead of at the centre, are less at risk.
The UK, on the other hand, is at the centre of global flight routes, the connecting flight paths used by airplanes.
Visiting air passengers who spread the disease are one of the reasons behind Britain's dose of coronavirus.
Here, dose is used as an informal way of saying an unpleasant experience.
So, from a historical viewpoint, this current pandemic doesn't seem so bad.
Far fewer people have died than in previous pandemics and with the arrival of a vaccine, the end is almost in sight.
Hmm, I guess so Georgina.
But for now at least the pubs are still closed in some places.
Anyway, it was interesting to hear how diseases have been spreading since ancient times.
On routes like the Silk Roads, you mean?
So, what was the answer to your quiz question, Neil?
Was I right? You said the ancient Silk Roads ran c from Asia to Europe, which was...
correct! They ran from Japan and the Far East through Asia and the Middle East, bringing trade and spices as well as new ideas and languages to Europe.
Sounds like another example of looking at the bigger picture – the long -term, overall view of a complex situation.
Let's recap the other vocabulary too.
Diseases can be lethal – extremely dangerous, even causing death.
A high -density population is a population living very closely together.
Peripheral countries may be less at risk from pandemics because they are at the periphery or edge of events instead of at the centre.
So somewhere with fewer flight routes, the connecting pathways followed by airplanes might get a less serious dose or unpleasant experience of coronavirus.
Well, I hope this experience hasn't been too unpleasant and you get a chance to use some of this vocabulary chatting to your friends about trending stories in the news.
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English from BBC Learning English.
You ever get the feeling the city walls close an end?
The concrete jungle suffocating your soul.
You crave wide open spaces, that you have to connect with nature, maybe chase some milk, fish a private stream.
Well, listen up. There's a whole world out there and finding your own piece of it just got easier.
head over to land .com.
They've got ranches, forests, mountains, you name it.
Search by acreage, location, the kind of hunting or fishing you dream of.
Land .com. It's where the adventure begins.
