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This is Round Table. You're listening to Round Table, coming up, where shining a spotlight on one of the most pressing issues around the globe, climate change.
Throughout these years, China, like many other countries, has rode out slew of policies and plans, finding its path on the journey of protecting the environment and dealing with climate change.
Today, with two special guests, we discuss the incredible contributions of young climate activists, examining China's remarkable strides in reducing carbon emissions and explore the potential of technology to revolutionize sustainable development.
Get ready to be inspired by the stories of those who are making a real difference in the fight for our environment.
For today's show, I'm joined by two very special guests.
We have Lee Wen Lee, technical consultant with climate future technology.
And we also have Wang Han Yuan, founder of Climbed Mind and UN Sustainable Development Goals Young Leader, great to have both of you here.
Actually, I am always very excited and glad to see brilliant young minds working in such important and promising field that will make a real difference for our future development.
So how about we use the opportunity to first introduce both of you a little bit.
Let our audience know what do you do, what are the subjects or the theme of your research, of your projects, and why what lead you to this very interesting and very important area.
Let's start with Wen Lee.
So exactly what do you do and what kind of service your company provides to different enterprises?
Sure. Yeah, I'd like to start with services of our company.
Actually, our company member provides four kinds of services, the first one pays for the asset development that helps the owner to apply for carbon credits.
The second one is carbon management consulting that means we help companies to design all carbon and make our tea plai because they lead this tunnel plan, other similar to real estate, such as international organization.
They would like to join some international organizations like SIGP or SBTI or they need to build a year-long carbon factory, but they don't know how to do it.
And that is the way to find the top of those four.
That is our second services.
Our third services is talent training with the technical training of the first one is online training.
That means actually this is the ambition of my boss.
He would like to provide more talents to carbon management industry because this is a new industry and there is a huge talent gap.
So what he wants to do is to provide this kind of people with the needy-dust skills and knowledge into this industry.
That is what they are doing now.
And the second channel is our training.
Actually we are having our sixth day on site training this week and besides some theory, we also will go to a cement factory where we will go to the sites to say how the factory is outsized and the work can also be made in sources and how to help them reduce this tunnel plan.
We will go to the site to see the real estate joint.
That is the third service of our company, the talent training.
And also we have found fourth service that is a way developed a Q&A robot head survey and the robot focuses on carbon-equality knowledge, people can ask questions and it also focuses on carbon-equality field.
That is what our company can survive for each classes.
This sounds very interesting and I get to see that for someone who has the knowledge to actually work on these different tasks.
I mean you have got the basic understanding, you have got the basic knowledge about how to provide a solution to different enterprises.
But like you said, every enterprises is different.
They have different needs.
They work on different fields and they meet real different challenges when it comes to reduce the carbon emission and you would provide a very specific and customized solution for them.
And that is a case by case scenario.
It's challenging, it's important and it actually helps and I love that kind of services that you can provide.
And in the meantime, while you are dealing with each and every different case, we have Hanhyeon here working on a different, let's say from a different angle because we know that you have the experience of being a young leader of SDG and also you have created your very own climb mind.
And to my understanding, it is a AI chatbot that can provide very important information as well as data and the research results to different people.
But you don't really work individually with each and every cases, which I think is the difference here.
So tell us what do you do as a SDG leader, young leader first and also a little bit about climb mind, would you?
Yeah, sure. And again, thank you so much for having me.
So many of my audience or people might know me from this United Nations SDG go young leader.
So this is the initiative brought up by the Youth and Boy Office under Secretary General in UN.
So it serves as a really critical bridge between the young people and the United Nations in order to build the bridge, but to bring the fresh perspective and the innovative idea to accelerate progress with SDG goals.
So I'm really lucky to be the one from China, the part of the 17, over the past two years and this two going.
So this is a capacity like I think during my, like, there's an appointment I've been doing my roles, like trying to go all over the places, sharing about how youth can contribute and especially through my own effort under the big climate agenda.
And really, like I recently had a personal transition, I finished a scholarly journey from Shua's scholar and then come back to continue full time doing my start-up mentioned before climb mind.
So it's a mind for climate, so it's kind of mind.
And then I think along the years, my journey technology really has taught me we can solve some of the world's most pressing problems, the innovation of collaborations.
So one can do really little and then we also add this interesting face, like we have enormous growing of technology, especially AI can be leveraged on the imaging issues like climate change.
There's a Chinese phrase I really like as well, Shou Chui-Li, like you give a tour to people to actually view their own solution.
So it's a central idea of climb mind, as really we want to democratize, want to make the easier, make the technology easier to access for everyone.
And the one thing coming in climate change is it's a global issue, but the solution has to be local and then also comes with different format.
And then we are starting from this simple but necessary, important enormous peak market opportunity is what if you can have a personal smart assistant for everyone in this field in order to like more or less related climate change.
So we bothered idea from there.
And now we are a team, a really small team around hand, but global decentralized, we serve a global market.
So you can find us on climate thought CEO.
It's an easy access tour.
We can type us any type of question.
But the different shaker here is we try to offer the answer with credibility by generating the citation, where is this coming from, in our unique data source that can help illustrate the climate problem well.
And then we have actually have quite a lot of interesting projects ongoing with enterprise companies and even like education institutions.
It's a process I think also exploring what AI is capable to do and then not of course.
So I guess I get to the majority really come together being the climate and to bring the rooted in China, but we really hope we can contribute that global scale.
It's very impressive to see both of you had the experience of working as a kind of like a good commission working to let's say figure out what are some results, what are some current to trend and what is the most challenging issues for different people and working to do the study first and then move on to real projects helping different enterprises.
So I was wondering for both of you, do you notice any changes with regard to climate change and carbon emission reduction in policy wise because you've been working on this field for quite a long time.
Both of you have been I would imagine following different policies both in China and around the world, different initiatives, different strategies in dealing with climate issues.
And also when it comes to for example general public opinion with the more and more young people concentrating and paying more attention to global warming, to carbon emission, to climate change, more and more young people realize the importance of dealing with these issues.
So do you notice any let's say very what relatively impressive and notable changes in these regards?
How about when Lee you can start first?
Sure, a lot of the changes has happened, perhaps in the 80s, no matter whether it's about to in terms of policies or in terms of opinions.
For example, our down thought demands that has accomplished on all of the policies about carbon, p-cut, carbon p-core, carbon neutrality and carbon slant.
Actually some policies are probably because of the we are responsible country or even international world.
And some policies is I think it's some international policies push us to do this.
For example, the European Union has published some very strict policies like the C-BAM or BATs React, they push our template document or our complement to take actions to react this kind of policies.
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So definitely like you said, cooperation, among different countries and different subjects, different initiatives, different frameworks are helping, not only the country but also all around the world, people all around the world to achieve a more sustainable future, a more sustainable development plan.
And in the meantime, as someone who's growing and working in the country, actually I can recall many very interesting action plans, interesting initiatives that has been helping the whole society, the people of China to gain a better environment.
When you are an expert, because you have had experience of doing research with the Center for Global Sustainable Development.
So according to your research, what are some notable achievements China had over the course of time?
And what are some major and very important policies China has wrote out and have seen quite good results about?
Actually, some policies at first were to publish the notable climate change, the mitigation, absolutely, the effort, the environmental protection, or for improved quality and to fall into water.
But actually they have a global benefit for climate.
And those policies has contributed to mitigate climate change and truly.
According to my research, at Center for Global Sustainable Development, I found that after we caused our energy structure a different system, other provinces.
For example, we did a research on comparison visits between China and the US, and we found that our energy structure, the coal, oxalupide, is the main energy in China, while the oil and dust is the main energy in the US.
So as for the next, when all coal and oil and dust are main sources of mass emissions.
And we shall have more mature, more developed technologies in reducing methane emissions from coal, while the US has more technologies in reducing methane emissions in oil and gas.
So we have different alternatives.
And we also can learn some of the challenges of our children.
We can learn some of the challenges and this different technologies will take many times each other and that is the Chinese other countries, an example.
And another thing is that because we have shown to the US and the WSHF Energy Serial and the technologies in the US.
Thank you. That is a good example you provided when it comes to the differences and also similarities between different countries and different approaches.
And definitely we have our experience.
We have relatively advanced experiences in certain areas and it takes cooperation and communication with other countries to make what we're good at useful for the global community and also learn from other countries.
So we can compensate on what we're not that good at.
And I believe that is something that our young leader of SDG are also doing through all the communication and meeting.
And I was wondering through the communication, do you see any other challenges or major challenges of different countries when it comes to climate change?
What are some problems that we need to relatively urgently deal with?
Well, it's kind of interesting to do to kind of challenge through communication.
Communication itself is not a climate climate problem but I think it's critically important also to fit it into what climate is doing partially.
I think there are two things about communication.
One is how the authentic climate knowledge science is being delivered and then making sure it serves as a foundation of the future generation's education part.
This will have to change how our generation will approach this issue itself.
So that's number one. I think number two is communication decides information how it's been delivered and then most likely it decides that easy to form the collaboration or how the policy being made and then being delivered layer by layer in different sectors.
I only have an example about IPCC.
So IPCC is organization like they do massive research literature synthesis every five years they're generating a report, some of the shorter longer.
So the current chair of IPCC was the professor and also at Imperial College, London before I worked and studied at.
One thing that we do the conversation with him is how can we make sure we have the authentic, credible but also on time communication on climate science to general public.
So here the audience is not just scientist, Paul Finaker is a general public.
That's a big difference here because we want people who don't know, now can know instead like we reinforce that people already in the climate field.
So I think that's something like a communication is critical.
So it goes down to kind of a position like how we can maybe leverage the current AI or like a new media channel so we can tell people about what's going on about lower greenhouse gas emissions and then that issue mitigation solutions.
I personally find that there is a barrier of people working this field with like general public and I use IPCC example.
I also wrote my thesis on this like discussing not AI applications in IPCC.
Through this example I think there's a huge potential of communication like to contribute.
And one thing really concrete that we are doing through two channels.
One is using the QA question and system to climate.
We hope this can generate authentic answer for our user.
For example, I'm someone working fashion.
Like maybe climate is a quite different topic for me.
Like it might be related to my branding or like my supply chain.
Then you can find the answer on climate path or you can know like with the source.
So that's one thing we can make.
We want to make the communication easier.
And the second thing is I think it goes to the education part.
So in UN a lot of the use activities around education.
And then gender balance and also poverty.
So all of those are like the same topic around climate change.
That part I think needs a lot of leadership to guide the direction.
I was think say it's a challenge.
I think it's more like opportunity at a country level.
Like a previous reasons we speak different language culture.
But we all agree on Paris agreement.
But what does that mean?
That he agree on Paris agreement.
He has to be embezzling to the actions in different form.
So I think there's a lot more to work on.
But I think the easier education or the application climate really critical solutions for climate communication.
I think what you have said is definitely very insightful.
And I've learned so much through this communication among the three of us.
We see that China attaches high importance to addressing climate change.
In 2020 China scaled up its national determined contributions aiming to have carbon dioxide emissions peak before 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality before 2060.
And all of us each in every individual as well as different companies are striving to achieve that goal.
And special thanks to Lee Wenli technical consultant with climate future technology and Wang Han-yuan founder of Climind and UN sustainable development goals young leader.
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