From the brains behind brains on, it's Smash Boom Best The show for people with big opinions.
Hi, I'm Molly Bloom, and this is Smash Boom Best, the show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best.
Today's debate is a boisterous Bake -Off between two sweet treats, it's cake versus pie.
We've got writer, dog enthusiast and my sister, dealia bloom.
Ready to give it her all for team cake, chocolat fudge, red velvet, trace latches, whatever the flavor, it's time to party.
Let's go cake and a writer, producer, and my brother, Mickey Bloom is here to defend Team Pie.
Tte, tte, tte, tte.
Ding, pies ready. Tte, tte, tte.
And here to judge it all are siblings, Tessa and Andrew from Toronto, Canada.
and her love's ice hockey and video editing and Tesla loves debate and competitive swimming.
Hey. So, Tesla, you are an avid debater.
What do you think makes a solid argument?
I would say a lot of evidence and analysis, I think being able to support your points really well is really important like having a lot of explanation, making it really clear to the judge and the audience what you're trying to say.
Well, okay. And you have any advice for our debaters today.
I've honestly never debated.
So maybe we should ask Tessa, what advice do you have for our debaters today?
I think my favorite part of debates is how entertaining they are so just have fun and keep you entertaining.
And so Tessa and Andrew you too are siblings so I'm wondering, I know Tessa you debate and like a debate team but do you ever have like debates in your family?
Probably. Yeah, all the time.
What's the debate you and Tessa have?
What's the order for dinner?
Mmm. Yeah. He always wants pizza.
Yeah, he always wants pizza.
And you forget it! Because I don't know why.
Because I don't want pizza.
I don't know why we don't like pizza have them.
So I'm curious, so you want pizza and then Tessa like what do you want?
Anything else? I mean, uh...
See that's the problem, just for no reason.
Andrew, do you ever succeed in getting pizza?
I do, but… It's always when she's not at home.
So Tesla is like, I got reasons.
That's the problem, she's too good of a debate or some shows wins.
Well, Tesla and Android side with Delia are Mickey?
Only time will tell.
But first, here are the rules of the game.
Every debate consists of four rounds, the decoration of greatness, the mic around, the sneak attack, and the final six.
After each round, our judges, Tesla, and Android will award points to the team that impresses them the most, but they'll keep their decisions top secret until the end of the debate.
listeners, we want you to judge too.
Barked down your points as you listen, at the end of the show head to our website smashboom .org and vote for whichever team you think can.
Alright, Delia, Mickey, Tessa, and Andrew, are you ready.
Yes ma 'am. Yes. Coming in, paper and hot, with all I got.
Then it's time for the Declaration of Grace.
In this round, our debaters will present a well -crafted immersive argument in favor of their side.
Then they'll each have 30 seconds to rebut their opponent's statements.
We flip to coin and Delia, you're up first.
Tell us why your team takes the cake.
Cake, just saying the word makes you crave a bite of fluffy, creamy, sugary goodness.
It's the perfect dessert and the ideal way to celebrate.
Just imagine life without it.
You walk into your best friend's birthday party.
To your left, there's a hot gooey pizza and bowls of chips.
To your right, there's a table piled high with gorgeous gifts.
And finally, straight ahead, you look for the one thing you've been waiting for since opening the Eveite, but there is no cake.
You look everywhere under every table on top of every shelf, still no cake.
You shake your best friend by the shoulders frantically scream, Where is the cakeish, ony?
She says, We don't have any cake.
I'll have some food instead.
You feel like you're falling into an endless dark pit like you'll never feel joy again.
Luckily, that was just a nightmare scenario.
In reality, we live in a cake -tastic cake -filled world.
One reason cake is the best.
It screams celebration.
Celebration! Mmm. Wedding, cake, birthday, there's a cake.
Retiring after 42 years at your boring job?
You know that's a cake.
Pie is cool, but if you give me an apple pie for my birthday, I will not be happy.
Apple is a fruit which is basically a vegetable which is basically salad and I'm not trying to celebrate another year on this earth with a salad.
No celebration. Yuck.
Another cake -mazing reason why cakes are superior?
Anybody can make one at any time no matter what their skill level is.
Are you a beginner baker?
or just short on time?
Try a boxed cake mix.
In the US, these mixes were created during the depression when lots of people didn't have jobs and couldn't buy many ingredients.
With these early cake mixes you only had to add water to make a cake.
Nowadays it's estimated over 186 million Americans use them every year.
Also have you seen the pure magic of a mug cake?
For my next trick I the Great Kick Dini will toss some simple ingredients into this ordinary mug Then place the mug in the microwave for about two minutes and Avric Kick Dabra you have a kick Cakes aren't just delicious, easy to make instant partybringers.
There are pastries chefs who train for years to make stunning cakes.
They make flowers or fire trucks or furry friends out of frosting.
They make delicate details out of sponge sugar or chocolate or edible glitter.
Some can even carve cakes to look exactly like any non cake object.
So much so, you'll ask yourself, is it even cake?
Billie, have you seen my phone?
Billy, no, no, no, no get that out of your mouth!
Enough phone. It's cake!
Oh gosh darn you clever cake making billy.
Sorry to say it, but pie isn't pretty.
Usually, it's a sloppy hot mess that needs a scoop of ice cream to even make it somewhat attractive.
So whether you're in it for the celebration, the welcoming attitude to all skill levels or the artistry, nothing can beat cake.
No matter which way you slice it, cake deserves the crown.
Cake has to cake abrasion for cake there.
Andrew and Tessa, what's it out to you about Delia's declaration of greatness?
She really pulled me in with the argument about mug cake.
I used to make those all the time during COVID.
Yeah, you used to be my go -to snack and I don't know, it's really quick and delicious.
Yeah, I really liked how she talked about art.
I really liked to do art myself, so that was really fun.
Also, when she mentioned hyper -realistic cakes, I've definitely seen those videos out there.
They're pretty crazy.
Is it cake? Yes it is.
Okay, Mickey, it is time for your rebuttal.
Tell us why cake is a mistake.
You've got 30 seconds and your time starts now.
Okay, um, where do I begin?
Cake for celebration is so old and tired.
That's the only way you can celebrate freely.
When I see a cake at a party, I'm like, Oh, wow, they put minimum effort into this one and then I'm pretty trite honestly and a little insulting.
It should be a little more personal to whoever you're celebrating.
Um, and look, I know Dileo was going out of her way to say, Like, look, cake is so simple.
Look, anyone can do it.
Why is that a good thing anyone can do it?
Is that what we want in our desserts?
We want something spectacular.
Cake is a classic for a reason.
It can be any flavor.
It can be made out of anything.
And also, you know, Mickey, I don't wanna keep cake away from the masses.
I want anyone to be able to do it.
Ah, typical cake. All right, Mickey, it is your turn.
Please tell us why Team Pi can fly.
Scott, hi. Look, Pi is a forever thing for me.
I'm a writer -die for Pi.
In fact, I love Pi so much that I decided to write an entire ode devoted to this perfect pastry.
Such Christed goodness knows no equal.
A golden vision for the hungry eye.
Keep tonight's roast chicken for I await tomorrow's sequel.
Leftovers baked into chicken pot pie.
A quiche Lorraine served hot and piping with a ham and cheese hot pockets nearby.
You say you mean on the side but I won't hear your griping.
As I munch loudly on my sandwich pie.
I'd go on but I've made a grave error.
I've left out dessert for pie -all -mode.
Apple and pumpkin seem fare -ist, but banana -cream's fairer.
I'll drop the mic this fork and end this pie, Ode.
as undoubtedly evidenced by my Pulitzer Prize submitted, owed, pies are truly an unparalleled food.
That's because unlike cake, pies are versatile.
You can get them savory sweet and everywhere in between from a veggie keash for breakfast to a savory tamale and pie for lunch, not to mention a shepherd's pie for dinner and cherry pie for dessert.
Oh gosh, I better stop there, oh, being spired to write another ode.
Meanwhile, the options for cake are limited to desert served on special occasions, and pies have been around longer than cakes, going back to ancient Egypt.
Back then, pies were made of honey, oats or chicken!
And if you walk this way, you'll find the burial chamber of Egyptian pharaoh Tutankhamun, where inscribed along the walls you'll find ancient drawings of the tasty -looking circle cut into segments.
Over there, you'll see a spoon, a bowl, and an ancient quizzanart mixer?
Okay, I might have taken a few artistic liberties there, but that's not far from the truth.
And pi isn't just a nourishing, delicious dish.
People have been eating for literally thousands of years.
It's also a learning tool ever heard of the pie chart.
from generating a family budget to showing the world's favorite pie flavors by percentage to surveying people to find the best kind of pie as impossible as that choice would be.
The pie chart is a handy visual tool that allows you to instantly understand a given total through its specific distinct slices.
Pie isn't just a food, it's a concept.
Meanwhile, the best piece of cake isn't merely that — a piece of cake, which is a popular phrase to describe something easy that doesn't take much thought, like a cake.
Take it from me. I avoided cake for most of my life as a kid.
I preferred the decadence of a chocolate French self pie over birthday cake.
Even I could taste the difference and I was five.
Phew! oh the needless sugar it haunts me PI is simple and elegant.
Cake is just basic look i can sit here and list the merits of PI all day but sometimes the most persuasive argument is an example in that sense look no further than pizza i assume you've heard of pizza It's status as a pie was cemented in the early 1900s when the term pizza pie was coined by a journalist when that delicious cheesy dish was first becoming popular.
Pizza is one of the most popular foods in the world, especially in the US where people eat more than 350 slices per second.
And scientists have found it's a literal source of joy.
Causing your brain to release feel -good chemicals like dopamine and boost your mood.
Meanwhile, cake is served at the end of the night when guests are ready to leave.
Man, this party is really draggy.
Can we go home? But they're having a cup of cake?
Yeah, that cake over there looks kinda...
dry. And what's with all that neon green frosting?
Hey, there's still a couple slices of pepperoni pizza left.
Yes! Pizza! Last one, there's a dried out old birthday cake.
Well, there you had it.
What did you think about Mickey's decoration greatness?
What stood out? Well, I was kind of on the fence and then he said Peats Up High and I was like, I thought that was a really good point.
I mean I thought you hated Peats Up.
Well, pizza is different!
I thought he really brought it home with the the fact that that pyres really versatile cuz I like originally I wasn't even considering like salty and savory pies Excellent points.
All right, dealia. It is time for your rebuttal Tell us why pie is just crusty leave now crumbs.
You've got 30 seconds and your time starts now I'll take it from here I knew you were gonna bring up Savry Pie, but you know, Kate can also be savory.
If you watch The Great British Bake Off, they make a Swedish sandwich cake.
There's also crab cakes, there's pancakes, with some melted, salty butter on top.
Speaking of that, how about a potato pan cake?
And how about, I have a crazy question, is lasagna a cake?
It's layers of something that you bake.
And I'm not asking questions.
First off, Swedish sandwich cake sounds disgusting.
I never want to eat that and I never will.
You know, here's what I know.
I know my heart. I know my gut.
And both of which together acknowledge that pie.
So you don't even have to finish this sentence.
It just ends on pie.
you don't need anything else.
I could do that too!
Try it. Ok, well see, here's the thing.
Ok, you got me there.
Ok, alright, fair enough.
Pointy -kin. Pointy -kin.
Speaking of points, Tessa and Andrew, it is time to award some points.
Please give one point to the declaration of greatness that you like best, and one point to the rebuttal that won you over.
You get to decide what makes a winning argument.
Did one team's jokes make you giggle?
Was another team's logic impeccable?
Award the points but don't tell us who they're going to.
Each person could get a point, both could go to the same person, totally subjective.
Totally, up to you.
MUSIC Have you made your decision?
Yep. Excellent, Mickey and Delia!
How are you doing feeling so far?
I was feeling confident...until I felt for Delia's meticulously designed trap.
I'm gonna be okay...I'm feeling great, 5 stars would recommend.
Delia, you know, I am feeling nervous, but I'm feeling ready to go and ready to go head to with Mickey some more, and all I have to say is the end is not for pie.
Oh, I'm very nice. All right, it's time for a quick break.
Sit back and preheat the oven.
And we'll be right back when more Smash Boom Best.
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Here with everyone's favorite debate, Debuterino, Todd Douglas.
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That's right and this one is chock full of logical fallacies.
Those are bad arguments that make it easy for your opponent to poke holes in what you're saying.
And these two have fallen into the same trap.
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So so you stole them You stole the cookies from the cookie jar.
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Maybe it was you me Do you have any proof I didn't?
No, but do you have any proof you didn't do it?
Well, no, but do you if any proof you didn't do it?
Well, no, but do you have any proof Well, no, but do you have any proof you didn't know that I didn't know that you didn't do it?
Well, no. So it must be you.
So it must be you. Wow, not only are they all out of cookies, they're all at a logic too.
Talk about adding insult to injury.
Right? Mm. Chocolate chip.
Todd, did you take the cookies?
What? Of course not.
You have crumbs all over your shirt.
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You're listening to Smash Boom Best, I'm your host Molly Bloom.
And wear your judges, Tessa and Andrew.
And we love getting debate suggestions from our listeners.
Take a listen to this prehistoric debate idea from Ellis.
Hey, my name's Ellis and I have a great demonstrated idea.
Firefly's versus Dead Foot.
What an illuminating idea!
We'll check back in at the end of this episode to see which side Ellis thinks should win.
And now it's back to our debate.
Cake versus pie. That's right and it's time for round two, the...
Micro round. Four the micro round challenge.
Each team has prepared a creative response to a prompt they received in advance.
For Delia and Mickey the prompt was oh Molly.
This is a surprise to me everybody each debater has to tell a true story that involves me from your childhood, oh boy.
I love your side, this is fun.
Okay, Jillia went first last time.
So mickey, your up.
Let's hear your personal pie parable.
I have so many memories of my sister Molly's love of pie that it's hard to pick one.
There was the time we were on a family road trip and made a special stop at Molly's request at the norsky nook in Aussie, O.
Wisconsin and out of the way, Haven for Pie.
There's also Molly's lifelong love of raspberry, rhubarb pie, requested on birthdays and holidays.
But the one moment that stands out above the rest goes back years ago, to the 1990s.
Ooh! When there were lots of kids' TV shows that featured messy, obstacle courses and trivia questions, often involving the contestants getting pied in the face.
And at ten years old, Molly was inspired.
Dad. Can you please throw a pie in my face?
Do you want me to throw a pie in your face?
Yes, please. It looks so fun.
Being a loving and beautiful father who loves a good bit, Dad agreed.
He secured a graham cracker crust piled high with cold foamy whipped cream, met Molly in the front yard.
And before anyone could yell Dairy Base topping, it happened.
Molly's face was covered, as was our front lawn, and she was delighted.
I am invincible !" A pie in the face has been a staple of comedy for over a century going back to the earliest days of silent film.
That day, Molly and dad joined a long roster of duos trained in the secret art of pie king, including Laurel & Hardy and Apod & Costello.
Who's on first? Bloom and Bloom have done it again.
Oh, my goodness, that is a 100%, true story.
I remember it like it was yesterday.
Oh, my gosh! All right, Deleot, now it's your turn to put the icing on top.
Let's hear your cake chronicle.
Molly is the host of today's debate, not the judge, but if she were the judge, I know how she would vote.
Molly is a cake person through and through.
Who isn't? She loves to eat them.
She loves to bake them.
And years ago, she even inspired one.
When Molly was 10 years old, she had an assignment for school where she had to dress up as an influential person.
Molly chose Albert Einstein.
Great choice, Molly.
Around this time, it was also Molly's birthday.
And growing up in our family, we got to choose the theme for our birthday cakes.
For example, when I was seven, I got my ears pierced.
So my cake was covered in frosting earrings.
Trae chic, meanwhile, my brother Mickey didn't want cake.
So he would have birthday brownies or cookies or pie.
Cut back to Molly's 10th birthday cake.
It was Einstein themed.
Einstein's wild white hair and big bushing mustache were flawlessly executed in butter -cream frosting.
Which was the real Einstein?
K Frankenstein? Or Molly Einstein in her costume?
I am the real one I think.
For years, we kept the slice with Einstein's face on it in our freezer because it was so special.
We didn't keep any pies in the freezer because there's no sense in preserving something So, gloppy and uninspired I wanna say, anyway.
Yay Molly, yay cake, yay for Molly loving cake the best and definitely more than pie.
Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yes, that Einstein had did live in our freezer forever.
I think it lived until our parents moved out of that house in that freezer for like 15 years because cake's so special.
No, no, no. Wait, I'm a little lost.
I'm a little lost. So you kept the cake in the freezer, the inside.
We kept only the Einstein's face.
That was made of buttercream frosting in the freezer.
We lovingly peeled off the face and kept the freezer for some reason.
All right, Tessa and Andrew, What did you like about Dilia and Mickey's microphones?
I really liked that Mickey's had a lot of different stories.
There was a lot of different evidence from different parts of your childhood, that was really convincing just the breadth of stories.
And Andrew, what did you like about Delia's?
I don't know what to think about Delia's, I think maybe like if we're keeping a cake in the freezer for that long, maybe it's because we didn't want to eat it, Oh, that's an exercise in the preachers.
It's because it was special, Molly and Spire.
I'm storming here. All right, Tessa and Andrew, it is time to award a point.
The criteria are totally subjective and totally up to you.
Did someone present some interesting story?
Did they draw you in?
Did they make you laugh?
Did they make you think please award your point but don't tell us who it's going to?
Have you made your decision?
Yep. Yeah? Fantastic, and it's time for our third round, the Super Stealthy, sneak attack.
This is our improvised round where debaters have to respond to a challenge on the spot.
Today's sneak attack is called Dinglehopper.
List three uses for your side, other than what it's really used for.
We're going to do that Volli Style back and forth starting with Delia.
Debaters, are you ready for your sneak attack?
Yes. Yes. Okay. We'll start with Delia.
Let's hear your first unconventional use for cake.
Totally. So we all know how fun a ball pit is, you jump in it, you get to like throw the balls around.
It's like a fun soft landing.
But we don't all have those little plastic balls all the time.
What if we had a pit of cake that we could jump into and just like throw it around and have a nice soft place to play?
Oh, I love that. sounds so fluffy and fun and tasty.
Okay, Mickey, it's your turn.
What's an unexpected use for pie?
First of all, we don't all have cake line around so that's not a fix, okay.
And second of all, if it was me, if it was me, I would just take a pie which is delicious, but obviously I've just finished it but what do I do with the pie tin?
Oh, I turned it into a frisbee because that's how a frisbee was invented in the first place.
Oh, Delia. After eating a dense buttery pie, I'm not gonna wanna jump up and play with a frisbee.
I'm going to want to take a rest.
What is better than a nice fluffy angel food cake?
Just resting my head on a little nap.
I'm going straight to having...
Okay. Nicky your turn.
Why are all of your ideas about enveloping yourself in cake?
I don't understand that.
Also have a lifelong dream of being covered in dessert just like Molly.
Fair enough? Having said that.
If you didn't have slippers around, and your feet were really cold, and you had a warm knot piping hot but warm leftover high on the window sill.
You might want to consider putting your feet inside the pipe because it's warm, and it good.
That is nothing like enveloping your whole body in cake.
Okay, I'm being conservative.
Dream big and Mickey.
Alright, Dilia, your final alternative use for cake cake is, you know, so versatile, you can make a cake pop which are delicious.
The way you make those that you take some cake you take some frosting, you kind of becomes a cake pop.
What if you use that same concept and you use that to build a fort, it's sticky, it's strong.
And it's going to house you and it's going to protect you from the elements, and it will make a really cool fort.
Very nice. All right, Mickey, what's your final alternative use for pie?
You've listened to me.
We're not going big.
We're not going big.
We're going small. Okay, you could take a pie and inside a pie is a bunch of little pies if you had a cookie cutter or something along those lines And then we single one of those little pies could feed all of the animals of the world Good feeds squirrels Birds let's say here be out.
Okay giving up told me to dream bigger and baby this one's a goose He's saying you'll make tiny pies for animals out of a pie?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's not an alternative use, that's just pie.
No, excuse me. I'm just saying.
You don't have to go the opposite root of this wasteful cake dome palettes arena thing.
You could go very, very small that even a pie.
One pie could feed thousands.
Okay. Millions, depending upon how small these little morsels, are going to get.
So he's like redistributing the pie to the people.
That is exactly right, Tessa understands.
He always did. No, she doesn't.
That was your own brother, Tessa.
Oh, my, okay. Well, some really creative alternate uses for pies and cakes there.
But Tassan Andrew, only one of them can get a point for this sneak attack round.
Think about which side impressed you the most and please award your fourth point.
Have you made your decision?
Oh and sync very nice, okay.
Mickey. I, Delia, it is time for our final round.
Final six. In this round, each team will have just six words to sum up the glory of their side.
Mickey, let's hear your six words declaring pie the pinnacle of pastries.
I have said my piece!
Deal, yeah. Delia! Delia!
Okay, Julia. It's your turn.
Give us six words, summing up like cake.
Is king. Sorry Mickey.
Cake takes the cake!
Oh god. What does that even mean?
It's delightful again.
Okay, Tessa and Andru.
It is time to award a final point for this final six.
Have you made your decision?
Yup. Are you ready to crown a team that smashed boom best?
Yep. So tasa, first, you!
Drum roll please. And tasa's winner is… Pot.
Yes. Thank you, tasa, thank you, you understand?
Drum roll please. And Andrew's winner is… cake.
oh yes, extra. Wow, Andrew.
Wow. That is a betrayal.
That's okay. Me and Andrew love cake and pizza hut.
Okay. Well, this was a very exciting debate, we did not come to a consensus, but that's how this works, it's totally subjective.
So I want to hear Tessa.
What was your favorite moment?
that sealed the deal for pies.
Well I don't know if it was a singular moment but I really liked how Mickey was really selling it, he was really doing the most in a good way, like even even if...
Doing the most in a good way.
Exactly. Even if it didn't make sense at first, he was really like selling it.
And I really admire that dedication.
That's like a big thing in debate.
You just got to double down.
And I love that. Thank you.
And you're, how about you?
What was the moment that decided at for cake?
I'm gonna agree with Tesla.
There were a lot of points where Mickey really didn't make a lot of sense.
I understand, thank you, Andre.
You gotta admit, I have no idea what he was talking about being a sneak attack.
Oh my God. I also like Delia's one -liners, I thought they were pretty clever.
The thing is I like pies better, but...
Wait a minute. You like pies better.
And I did such a terrible job.
You lost me so much.
And you chose cake over a pie, that was your second day.
It's the opposite for me.
I actually, like, I think coming in, I like to cake a little bit more than pie, but this is so interesting.
Mickey, it's just that you and I are so good at changing hearts and minds.
Yes, that's beautiful.
Mickey, I learned so much about pie, that I didn't even know.
I was like, what facts could there even be about pie?
But I learned so much.
And just, just like Tessa said, give it your all.
And I just respect the heck out of that.
You did a great job.
There may have been many times when I two thought that's a good one -liner and there may have been times when I thought, well, I think she's gonna win because she's presenting a very clear case that's very eloquently written.
Oh, thank you. You know I didn't want to do this because I knew I was gonna cry.
it happened. then I'll cry.
Okay, dry your tears with your pie.
And that's it for today's debate battle.
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Our editors are Shayla Farzon and Sandin Tott With fact -checking buy and a gold field and we had production help from the rest of the brains -on -universe team Rosie DuPont, Nico Gonzalez -Wister Ruby Guthrie Lauren Humpert Joshua Rae Rebecca Rand Mark Sanchez and Charlotte Traver Our executive producer is Beth Perlman in the APM studios' executive and charge, our chantricovati, and show on Griffith.
Our announcer is Marley For Your Worker Auto, and we wanna give a special thanks to Austin Cross and Taylor Kaufman.
Telia, is there anyone you'd like to give a shout out to today?
Oh yes. I would like to shout out to my favorite people in the whole world, my siblings, Molly and Mickey, we're doing this with me!
And I wanna thank everyone that's smashed the best, and I wanna thank my friend, Ashani Das, for lending her voice to my declaration of greatness And for their help in my debate prep, our mom, Carolyn, and my fiance, Tony...
Oh. And how about you, Mickey, any special thanks?
Yeah, special thanks to Catherine.
Thank you for bearing with me while I worked on this.
And you were very supportive.
Thank you very much.
I also want to thank Silvy.
She's my daughter. She really had no saying this at all, but I just have to thank her because, you know, she keeps me going and it's shouts out to the PA at work that I had practiced some debating with.
I presented my case to Pi and she really helped me a lot and that was Tiana Burajas.
So thank you Tiana and Molly and Delia because I love you guys a lot, you're my rock and I couldn't do any of this without you.
Literally this time so thank you.
Do you want to give any special thanks test on the Andrew or shoutouts?
I'd like to shut out my mom for driving me here all the way downtown to the snow.
I really appreciate that.
Yeah and I like to shut up my brother and my dad for shoveling so he could drive down to me.
Before we go, let's check in and see who Ellis thinks should win the dinosaurs vs. Fireflies debate.
I think fireflies are hard to say.
The fireflies still exist.
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Buh -bye! Bye -bye -bye bye -bye!
Rider Pie, Pie, and I either way, this was Team Pie.
See you later alligator.
That was a piece of cake!
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I just wanted to say to you that I have to admit something nice to movies.
We are actually sitting okay with your father.
The coldest series podcast is about how teaching kids to read went wrong.
But now, we have a story about a school district where things are going very bright.
Let me make sure my friends are sitting criss -crossed out with us, ANDS in their lap!
I've never had a child that couldn't breathe.
How did they do it?
When I tell some of my other colleagues that may be at other schools that this is what I do, they would say, you're kidding me?
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