It's definitely a weird place for a black hearse to pull up.
If you guys don't know what a hearse is, it almost looks like a vintage looking car.
And oftentimes it's associated with death because most funeral homes, it's a tradition.
You will see caskets or coffins being transported inside of this hearse.
There are chrome wheels.
It's like a very intense looking car.
You're not supposed to cut it off in traffic.
Otherwise, that's a very bad omen, because you're cutting off someone's final journey to their destination.
And like, that's very bad karma is what people say.
And even if it just stops in front of your house, people say that's very bad luck.
That means someone in your house might die.
That's the whole thing with a hearse.
And so there is this building in the middle of just a downtown city center, with a whole line of people just standing outside and a hearse pulls up parks on the side of the street, right in front of them.
It's interesting because when you see this video, nobody's wearing all black.
It's not like a funeral.
This doesn't look like a funeral home.
And they're also curiously staring at this hearse like, why is there a hearse right here?
There's a video?
Like someone took a video?
Yeah.
Standing in the line, showing the hearse.
Showing some other people in the line.
And you can see that the back of the hearse is opened up by this man in a suit.
And it takes about four men to first of all slip off this black blanket, uncovering this silver-white colored coffin.
Some people say that the coffin looks way too small to be a fully adult coffin.
It's a casket, but...
It looks more so like a child casket.
Somebody on the smaller side.
And they pull off the black blanket.
They start rolling it into the building that everybody is standing in line trying to get into.
And they look a little bit like, what is going on right now?
And none of the people that are carrying the casket are saying anything.
They just wheel it straight into the building.
Eventually, when the doors open, the entire line of people are shuffled inside.
And immediately, the first thing they see is that casket, just front and center right there.
There's the white casket on top.
There's all these flowers next to it.
There's this funeral wreath.
And then there's this long table where they have a guest book.
All the people are supposed to sign their name, pay their respects to the deceased, and there's this notepad in case you want to write a very long letter to the deceased.
You got to send your condolences to Itami.
And there's a picture of Itami.
It's a man in a blood-soaked white dress shirt, wearing a white blindfold, which would be a very unsettling memorial picture.
But thankfully, this is not a funeral.
This is David.
This is a famous musician, the one that sings Here With Me Romantic Homicide recently.
The Fortnite anthem Locked and Loaded, Feel It, which was on The Invincible Show Remember Me, which was on Arcane.
He is probably one of the biggest artists right now, one of the bigger ones.
And it is a concert on his world tour.
The concept and theme is death.
A funeral.
There are hearses at most of his show that bring in this white silver casket.
Fans pay their respects to the dead, Itami, who is David's alter ego in his music videos.
It's all very artistic.
Some people think it's a little gimmicky.
Some people think it's very exciting.
Until September 8th of 2025 this year.
News breaks that while David is on tour hosting fake funerals, The dead body of a 14-year-old girl is found in the trunk of his car.
Which brings us to the questions, is he connected to her?
How is he connected to her?
Did he do it?
Was she killed?
Is he guilty?
If so, why hasn't he been arrested yet at the filming of this video?
And it's been weeks since her body was found.
Was she dismembered?
Why are the police being so vague?
And do the funerals at the recent concerts mean anything at all?
Because some netizens are saying, was David trying to tell us something?
This is the case of Celeste Rivas Hernandez, the little girl found inside of David's trunk.
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A few sensitive topics for this case include allegations of grooming CSA, as well as things like gore, potential dismemberment and decomp.
Now, a super big part of this case is that, as of filming this, there have been zero arrest convictions or just really anything concrete besides these little tidbits of very vague, very polished press releases that authorities have given out.
We're going to be covering all of those details and specifying which one is confirmed, but basically function on the assumption that everything is alleged.
We did our best to debunk and verify all of the online rumors, and there are There are so many online rumors.
We went down a whole maze of just online speculations screenshots, screen recordings, people posting unreleased songs.
And one thing we can deduce is that we don't really know anything at this point.
We also want to disclaim that all screenshots and or media posted by people online can be edited or faked.
We did our best to verify and try to get down to the original source.
But even when we did, it's like, well, they could have edited it.
It could have been doctored.
There's no way to say that this is real.
And there's no way to even say that that's the exact person they're alleging behind the account.
So there's so many different things until it's confirmed by authorities.
I can't tell you what's real, what's fake.
We tried to do our best.
But one thing is clear that everyone involved is technically innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
So with that being said, let's get started.
The musician David really likes the Korean invisible string theory, and I didn't even know that that was what it was called, and then I was talking to my dad about it and it's called 인연, which is a very intense concept.
It's the concept that every single person in your life, you are tied to them by fate.
So in Korea there's this idea that you are tied to your soulmate through your pinkies with this invisible red string, and everything you do in life is just getting you closer to meeting your soulmate.
Every single person that you meet on the street is supposed to propel you closer to your soulmate unless, unless you fuck it up, unless you're really mean to a friend, and then the string falls off your finger.
Some people believe that can happen.
Other people say there's no way you're tied to your soulmate forever, and it does also get dark.
My dad was telling me that it sounds romantic, it sounds like something you would only see in a k-drama, and it's so loving, but you could be tied to the wrong soulmate.
What does that mean?
It's not happily ever after.
It's this idea that every soulmate tie is formed after 8,000 lifetimes of karmic connections.
So it's almost like after 8,000 karmic reactions, you finally have your soulmate.
But those could have been bad karmic connections.
So now you've got, you're tied to your soulmate, who happens to be either a very bad person or is very bad for you in your life.
And then the next life you live, you're still going to be tied to that person.
And it's just like this repetition of having the world's worst soulmate, if you will, to put it simply and not romantically.
So so many doesn't mean they're perfect for you.
It just means you are stuck with this person.
You're going to marry this person.
Okay.
Yeah.
And you're going to be stuck with them.
But it's not a, it's not the concept of Oh, this is true love.
Some people take it as that, but my dad was like well, most people don't considering divorce rates these days.
So it's.
It's more so that now in an interview with Zach saying David spelled D four VD, he says Oh, I love that theory that everybody's connected in some way, in some form, spiritually.
Zach Sang is asking him to break it down and David says So.
Basically, it's a South Korean ideology where, from birth, we are connected to our soulmate.
That could be a lover friends teachers, anybody.
You're connected to them from birth and you're led to them through the course of your life to meet them or interact with them at some point, or to help them.
They add something to your life.
It's almost transactional, but it's like an emotional transaction.
You're meant to help this person or you're meant to learn something from this person.
Me and you could have a string.
So Zach saying is asking, so does everybody have a lot of strings?
There's so many.
I mean they're connected to so many different people and that connection can either be severed or not severed, depending on who you ask, because there's also the japanese version where the scarlet theory, where if you build too much bad karma that could be severed, or if you do put somebody wrong, that connection is severed and it's not repairable.
So there's different versions of all of this, but i view it as we are all connected through the universal emotion called love and that's that's why my album is mostly dealing with the theme of love and that connection.
I thought his thing was death, Yeah and death.
Love and death.
He says in a separate video everybody's connected from the invisible life force that connects you to either your soulmate or your friends you meet or people you encounter in your life.
And if that's the case, people are now digging these videos up and they're not even that old.
His newest album recently came out this year.
He's on tour for his newest album, The Withered Tour.
And people are saying okay well, if you believe in soul ties, if you believe in these connections, how are you connected to the 13 year old girl that went missing 17 months ago?
In early 2024.
You know, a few years ago, I feel like there was this TikTok trend at one point.
And I don't know how our brain rot keeps evolving.
But it's song covers.
Very serious rap songs.
Very serious love songs.
And it's like if they were all sung by Alvin and the Chipmunks.
And it's just a high-pitched cover of the songs.
And everything sounds goofy.
And sometimes it's honestly better than the original song.
Do you remember where all the TikTok sounds were also going viral?
And it's like... high-pitched, sped-up versions of every song.
Yes, yes, yes.
That's how David gets famous.
His song?
Not by his own music, but by Alvin and the chipmunking everybody else's music.
He would make edits where he sings someone's song.
Beyonce, Billie Eilish.
Oh, he's singing it?
Yes, and then he would Alvin and the chipmunks edit it.
Sometimes it would just be the track of it.
And then he would edit it to sound like Alvin and the chipmunks.
David's whole career trajectory is by far one of the strangest things that I've ever read about.
And it's not even... It's just strange.
I think the fact that the first few songs he drops...
Hit a billion streams on Spotify.
And every song and release after that has been so successful.
I didn't know anything about David.
I knew his songs.
I didn't know him online, because a lot of people actually knew him online through his TikToks, his viral memes in his TikToks.
But I would think that if you told me he was an industry plant, I'd be like okay no, I could see it.
Because he just blew up out of nowhere.
But it's actually a very strange coming up story.
How long has he been around?
He has mainly been around since, I mean, he's been, he was a Fortnite YouTuber first.
He's a YouTuber?
Yes, but he was not very big.
He had about a few thousand subscribers.
He's been around making videos probably since like early 2020, because he does talk about how it was the best time to be gaming on Fortnite was during 2020 COVID.
But he really starts popping off a little bit in end of 2021, 2022.
Wow.
So it's only been like three years.
And so he says in an interview, like I was a Fortnite YouTuber for a really long time.
He says that I think he said he was since 2017, but he said I really wanted to be a content creator and a streamer and all that kind of stuff.
I was making montages on YouTube of my gameplay.
You know, those people that do the, yes.
Okay.
Putting music behind it, trying to be the best Fortnite player.
And then my videos got copy striked.
So I couldn't make money off of it, because he's just playing like Jay-Z in the back of it, which of course, you're going to get copystriked.
And he says, I was like, yo, I don't know what to do.
I go to my mom.
I'm crying.
I'm like, yo, mom, I'm not making money no more.
I don't know what to do.
So she's like, make your own song.
He starts making music on his iPhone.
He Googles how to make music.
That's… wow.
He downloads BandLab and he goes into his sister's closet and he uses his wired headphones to make his very first song.
He uses his sister's closet because he said the kitchen had too much echo, the living room was too big, his bedroom was also not great, so her clothes are basically the insulation for the closet studio and there is no AC in there.
So the first day that he decides to make the song, he is sweating in there for six hours.
He's just YouTube tutorialing his way through the entire thing, finally creates his first song, drops it and he's telling everyone in the Fortnite community hey, if you're getting copystriked, like I did use my song and I'm not going to copystrike you.
It's royalty free.
Like, I got you.
So these are people that have been very pissed off about copystriking, so yet they're going to use his freaking song.
And he said, it goes crazy.
But it really only goes crazy in the Fortnite community.
Meanwhile he's working at Starbucks, still making the Fortnite montages, but with his own music now.
And then he gets fired from Starbucks.
Like he has the very strange life story.
He says his manager had given him this discount code.
The manager's like, if you ever need to buy a sandwich and you're $3 short, use this code.
Mm-hmm.
He uses it a few times.
He thinks it's an employee discount code.
When new hires come in, he's training them, telling them the code and explaining it's an employee discount code.
So once in a while, if you're $3 short, just use the discount code.
It's not an employee discount code.
He gets called to the manager's office and they accuse him of committing felonies.
Wait, I'm confused.
What is that code?
I don't know.
He never really further explains.
That is weird.
So is that kind of like a hack?
Oh, just use this, you get a discount.
And he just started telling him, why?
Just use this.
I think so.
And I think he only saved like $14.
He only used about $14 of it.
But the manager says you're committing felonies.
So he gets fired.
It's not the same type of felonies, nor comparable to the severity of what he's accused by the internet, as of right now, of having committed.
But David states that Starbucks accused him of committing many crimes and he was fired.
And he said, these are all the sandwiches that you stole from us in the past three weeks.
Like this is what his manager is telling him.
David argues again.
He thought it was a discount code and he was like just take it out of my paycheck.
But they refused.
He said the whole situation was just crazy, bro.
And I was like, you know what?
It's a blessing in disguise.
That means I get more time to work on music, which I'm already about to make money on.
You know what I'm saying?
People were just demanding more music.
And David says it just kind of became this thing where the music was getting more popular than the Fortnite videos.
My SoundCloud numbers surpassed my Fortnite video numbers.
It was getting crazy.
Are those songs that's released or are they just like random songs?
They're out.
They're out?
Yeah, yeah, they're out.
They're big now?
They're big now.
Even the first few that he made?
Yes.
Wow.
But they're not doing the crazy numbers that his next few songs make.
So after these Fortnite songs, he's still making these songs, but he decides that not just on SoundCloud.
He wants to get attention on TikTok.
So TikTok, he mainly is still just posting Fortnite videos and now Alvin and the Chipmunks.
That's his Alvin and the Chipmunks era.
He also starts posting random memes and everything is like Alvin and the Chipmunk pitch.
And then he drops a few of his most famous songs casually.
Here with me the very famous song and Romantic Homicide, both of which have over a billion streams on Spotify.
These are dropped before he has a record label.
So then the record labels, they start calling him.
They start reaching out to him, asking him to sign.
And side note, he lives in Houston, Texas.
He's homeschooled.
And his mom says he came downstairs one night and we were in the kitchen and he said I have something to tell y'all.
And I was like, what?
He was like, this label was...
Calling, they keep calling this label and that label's calling.
And we were like, what are you saying?
Like, stop playing around.
His dad legitimately thought they were getting scammed by phishing emails, until they're flown out to LA and they have meetings with multiple record labels.
David's mom has this little journal called David's Music where she takes notes of all the meetings with the labels.
And then eventually they signed with Interscope, which is owned by Universal Music Group, UMG.
It's actually very fascinating.
So in 2022, he has 118,000 monthly listeners on Spotify.
And right now, he's sitting at 38.5 million monthly listeners.
Which I believe.
On Spotify, only 100 or 200 artists in the entire globe have 35 million monthly listeners or more.
Oh, no.
Yeah, he has had a recent push in his music because of everything that's been happening.
But no.
But he's gotten that big.
Wow.
Yeah.
So even he's opening for SZA's SOS tour.
He opened for that tour.
And I do think that a lot of people like to find reasons to hate people who suddenly get famous.
And, like again, I'm telling you everything that's happened in the context of that time, not in 2025.
This is when he first starts blowing up.
So just giving you the context.
From what I can tell, he was very generally well-liked at that point.
It's very hard for people to even argue that he's not talented.
Yeah.
I know that there's lots of musicians that pop off on TikTok and people are always like they're not even that good.
It's not even great music.
It's just TikTok viral songs.
Most people would probably admit maybe not now, but two years ago that he does seem objectively talented.
A lot of his aura also comes from the fact that he's very abstract, if you will, on how he creates music.
He definitely has a whole process to it.
He still likes to primarily record on his phone.
Even if he goes to the studio to collaborate with very big artists which he has done he will come back home and record it on his phone and that will be the one that's released.
Hmm. which I do think a lot of people liked that.
He said at one point he was making nine songs a day.
The overwhelming majority have not been released, but I think in hindsight this adds to lots of people's speculations that there have been unreleased songs.
So it's clear that he has a huge vault of music that has yet to be released.
I think a lot of people also like the fact that, even though he did get a vocal coach at the height of his career, which a lot of artists will have, one and a huge factor for that being you can blow out your voice to the point where you cannot sing for weeks at a time, which would be your livelihood.
It's very important.
But David says that he had a vocal coach for a minute, but quote.
But then I realized I started this thing in the most unorthodox way possible, just off Fortnite and BandLab, so I quit.
And I turned to YouTube tutorials, looked it up on YouTube.
I remember I was training for the big show in Houston the other day.
And I was like, how to do vocal warmups and how to do vocal runs just on YouTube before the show.
And I was just going crazy on YouTube, bro.
Which sounds like he's a very relaxed artist who doesn't really care.
But one reporter who interviewed David for a magazine cover says he is not going to let anything stand between him and making his dreams a reality.
His career blows up so quickly that there's just no transitioning into it.
David says, I went from never going to a concert.
The first concert I went to was my own.
And now I'm doing a 50s show tour.
David goes from being homeschooled to suddenly moving to the Hollywood Hills going on tours.
Opening for SZA.
He does say that homeschooling took one of the biggest tolls on him, just the isolation aspect of it.
He says, I made a couple of friends that were homeschooled.
But there was no extracurricular activities.
It was just me at home playing Fortnite, getting schoolwork done, learning how to code and build computers for four years.
Wait, how old is he?
He was only homeschooled for four years in high school.
But right now today, he's 20 years old.
He's 20 right now.
Yes so, and this is like three years ago right yes, he was like 17 yes 17, 18.
Wow wait, is he?
Yes, he's 20 right now.
But one of the big outlets he has when he's being homeschooled is parkour parkour, literally.
David's dad grew up doing martial arts so he wanted his sons to have some sort of discipline created through that type of hobby.
So they go to a parkour warehouse.
David did go viral because he attempted a backflip at coachella and he lost infinite aura.
That was like the meme, because he tried to use the stage as leverage for a backflip.
It was very slippery so he just fell straight on his back and his neck.
He says i'm embracing it.
We all miss a backflip once in our lives.
But even the guys that work at the parkour facility in houston i mean, they've known david for a minute they say that when he started homeschooling for high school, they could tell.
They say I could just see the shift in his energy.
This becomes important later.
I've always kind of noticed when he would come in just headphones on.
It was just the fact that I think he felt very disconnected.
David says, transitioning from public school to homeschool is tragic.
I thought I had a lot of friends in middle school.
And then after being homeschooled, nobody's hitting me up.
Nobody's asking me where I'm at.
Why am I not coming to school today?
It made me question, what is the real friend?
Do I have any of those he says, but it was cool, i guess because i did find a lot of new passions just being alone and finding myself individually, being myself and being a nerd and watching anime and not being made fun of for watching anime, like doing this, that and the third.
So just to give you an idea, david's whole aura online is creative artistic, religious.
Grew up in a super Christian household in Texas, somewhat sheltered from homeschooling, but ultimately very talented.
People say that he's genre-less, or well, that's what they said, that he was very genre-less.
He didn't have a specific style that he stuck to.
He seemed very experimental.
He doesn't give off that very strong, bad boy, fucking around in LA type of aura.
He seems very chill, family-oriented.
September 8th 2025 at 12 30 pm.
Employees from hollywood tow.
They call the police.
The report reads there is a 2023 tesla model y that is emanating a foul odor and attracting flies.
A few things are worth noting.
September 8th 2025 is a notably colder day in the.
The car just has that strong of a foul scent and the car has been impounded.
The car's in the tow lot, meaning someone called the tow company, a resident from the Hollywood Hills and said hey, there is this car on the street that I live on and it's been there for like three weeks and it hasn't moved in that spot for 72 hours.
Can you come tow the car?
So they towed the car.
It's not towed because it has a flat tire.
It's not towed because it was in a car accident.
It's just parked on a random residential street and it has Texas license plates.
The neighbors thought it was weird.
So they're like, can you guys please just come get this car?
It's in the tow yard.
LAPD show up to the scene.
They open up the front trunk and inside of a bag is a dead body.
According to TMZ and you can decide how you want to take this information coming from TMZ, but according to them, the body found in the Tesla was chopped up and heavily decomposed.
Also the word usage there is strange, but they're alleging that she was whoever the body was at this point was dismembered.
According to Times, the remains are described as, quote, a head and a torso.
Now the LA Times have since revised that and they have changed it to quote initially, the remains have been described as a head and a torso, but they don't elaborate.
So they don't say correction, this is what was originally reported, but nevermind.
It just says that's what was previously reported.
So there are all of these debates online of was the body dismembered?
Was the body not dismembered?
Was the body in pieces because decomp was so bad?
Was it a natural process of the decomposition or was it not a natural process?
There's a lot of debates.
We don't even really have a timeframe of death that can be confirmed.
Some reports are saying that the body was dismembered.
Others are saying in pieces.
So as of filming this, take it as you will.
But what is confirmed is the dead body was found inside the trunk of the Tesla.
They run the car plates.
The car is registered to David Anthony Burke, famous musician, D4VD, David.
At first for 02 seconds.
There are brief concerns and questions online that it was David himself in the trunk.
But since he's on tour, it's quickly verified that he is very much alive and well, at least physically.
But then who is in the car?
That same day, a TikTok from March 9th, 2023.
So this is years ago.
Two and a half years ago.
That starts circulating and the video starts showing up on people's feeds again.
The algorithm is pumping it out after two years.
It's a creator by the name of Nicholas, and he's in the aisle of a grocery store.
The camera's rolling behind him.
And it's obviously a bit.
It's like the, hey, what do you do for work type of Hey, how much do you pay for rent?
It's one of those TikToks in a grocery store.
He sees someone going through the chip aisle.
Excuse me, quick question, quick question.
The guy looks up.
It's David.
He's wearing a white dress shirt covered in blood.
So remember his Itami alter ego.
You can tell it's Itami because he is always wearing a white dress shirt covered in blood.
Is this like a character he's playing right now?
It's a character in his music videos that shows up frequently in pretty much almost all of his music videos for the past three years.
Oh, every video.
Almost all of them.
Wow.
Almost all.
And this one, he's at a grocery store dressed up as that character.
Yes.
I see.
And there's like a bloody handprint on one side of the shirt.
He's holding a giant tub of Tide laundry detergent.
When he turns around, Nicholas notices...
I mean, it's obviously a staged collaboration.
Oh, shit.
What are you up to?
You caught me in my work clothes, bro.
You know, I also got the Tide.
I'm trying to clean up a little bit.
You think Tide is going to get all that out?
I hope so.
What's your name?
David.
How are you feeling today?
It's raining outside.
I think I got a cold.
Kind of sick.
What song do you put on when you're in bed and you're feeling sick?
Oh, Romantic Homicide.
How does that one go?
And in the middle of the chip aisle, David starts singing.
I'm scared.
It feels like you don't care.
In the back of my mind you died.
The video starts getting pushed out to the algorithms once the news breaks that a body was found inside of his trunk.
We don't know who is in the trunk.
Body has yet to be identified.
David is on tour when this body is found.
So there's not a strong connection that people are side-eyeing too heavily by this point.
It's just, it's weird.
In this video, people are almost making memes.
I don't think it's appropriate, but they are making memes of like, oh, work clothes, you say?
So what do you do for work?
So there's all of these questions.
It's not like a strong, he's guilty of something, lock him up, he did something.
It's more so, this is all weird and the internet is going to do what the internet does.
But that's all we really know at this point.
I mean, and it's practically nothing.
We know that a body is found in his trunk.
We know that his Tesla was left out on a public street outside of his Hollywood Hills house that his manager was renting, that David was most likely living in.
So the lease is under his manager's name, Josh Marshall, but David is most likely living there.
The Tesla was parked for the past three weeks, but 72 hours it hasn't really moved.
People in LA do not play about parking your car on the street without parking permits.
It gets towed to Hollywood Tow.
They call.
They say it's a scent.
And this car has never been registered as stolen.
Which doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't stolen.
It just has not been reported as being stolen.
So as netizens are waiting for updates, simultaneously people online are digging up another music video to the song One More Dance by David.
And this starts going viral.
Clips of it start going viral immediately on TikTok.
This was posted February 7th, 2025.
So almost exactly eight months before a body is found in David's car.
The music video opens with Itami, wearing the bloody dress shirt and a white blindfold, dragging another version of David, regular David, dragging his unconscious body onto the ground.
We're going to dive deeper into this whole music video later, but he's dragging the unconscious version of him.
And then two more people come up and they throw his body into his trunk.
So like he has so many videos about death.
And trunks and cars.
So everything is like, oh my God, look at this.
And blood and funeral.
And at the time that the news breaks, he has those caskets at his concert.
So it's like, this is happening when the news breaks.
It's not a tour from last year.
It's going on right now.
Yeah.
And they drive off in this car.
And more on that later.
But David described that music video as the other two people that show up to help Itami put David in the car.
They're cult members that love Itami.
And they're going around with Itami in the trunk.
And they're burying David after I die.
Netizens are just confused and weirded out at this point.
But again, none of the comments by this point in time are saying that he's guilty.
They're just saying um, this is very strange, this is odd, this is weird.
What are the odds that he has a music video where he's shoving someone, albeit himself, into the trunk of a car and then there's a dead body found in the trunk of his car like?
The odds of that must be pretty low, right?
Others are saying it's not that low.
Putting bodies in the trunk of a car is like a movie stereotype.
Everybody does it.
But that's not an admission of guilt.
That's not really evidence.
A lot of netizens at that point feel like perhaps it's a reach.
Perhaps we should all go outside and touch grass.
It's actually a strange, traumatizing circumstance for everyone involved.
Probably even david is how netizens feel, because i mean, first of all, whoever is found deceased.
Their family members are traumatized.
But david is 20, he's on tour, his car is impounded.
The speculation that netizens have is his car was probably stolen by someone in la and they used it to hide a dead body and now he's connected to this and he's this young man just starting his career.
He's probably also traumatized And all these speculations are just getting crazy because there has been no official statements being made.
The police don't arrest David.
So everyone's just making statements.
Some people even get very mad at brands like Hollister and Crocs.
Hollister and Crocs have a collaboration.
David was the main model for that collab.
They quietly pull most of his images from the Hollister website.
This is before the body is identified.
Okay, just to give you an idea.
When the body is found in David's trunk, there's a layer of suspicion.
There's a layer of strangeness.
But it's an overwhelming feeling of this is weird.
And we typically don't like to give people in Hollywood the benefit of the doubt because they all do some weird stuff.
However however, I mean look at his past career, look at his history.
He seems like a nice guy and he's on tour, so it's not like he's in LA and they find a dead body.
It just seems like it's just a very shitty circumstance for everyone.
I mean David yes, but mainly the deceased and their family, whoever they are.
But once the body is identified, I will say everything changes.
So just bear with me.
At this point people are saying i mean hollister them pulling that.
People are commenting i hope david's fans boycott hollister because immediately the day of the day after, it was like the day after wow, Innocent until proven guilty.
Another comment agrees.
I agree.
The poor guy is on tour and this happens to him.
I mean, it's probably freaky for a 20-year-old to go through.
Others are saying I guess it's good advertising for Hollister, because now everyone knows about them.
But it's also not good if this guy is completely innocent.
No one's going to risk working with them ever again.
Eventually, Hollister and Crocs make a statement, which reads very plainly, Again, very vague.
News networks are trying to get police to give them more information, trying to reach out to David's camp.
All they get is David's spokesperson telling NBC News that the singer has been quote.
That makes it sound like he just found out, informed about what's happened.
And although he is still out on tour, he is fully cooperating with the authorities.
So it's vague.
But if you look into this vague statement, it sounds like well, maybe it sounds like David had no clue what was happening.
This car was impounded, there was a body found.
It sounds like he just heard about the news, along with everyone, and now he's doing everything to be as helpful as possible with the police.
But it's also not really something he's involved with, because why would he not come home?
He's still going on his tour dates and he's cooperating with the authority, so it feels like it's his car.
But that's about the extent of the connection.
Oh, he's still going on tour dates.
Yeah, the very next day he has a show.
Oh, just you wait, because we know people who went to that show.
So he goes to, well, not know them, but we found people who went to that show.
He does a show the next night, September 9th.
Hmm, okay.
So people are thinking he's not being forced to come back to LA.
He's not been arrested.
The wording of the spokesperson, he's been informed.
Sounds like he just found out.
He's cooperating with authorities and he's still on tour.
That makes it sound like it's bad.
It's a really sad situation, but he's just not involved.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
That's the feeling and so people feel sympathy for him.
Initially it also just doesn't really click that david would be involved.
People are saying i mean, look at these tiktoks of him.
There's one where he's walking down the street and he sees a performer on the side of the street playing a guitar, singing david's very famous here with me song.
David just casually hops on and gives everyone on this road a private concert.
He seems really humble.
The person who posts the TikTok says he is so sweet, like he was so kind to everyone.
One netizen from months prior comments, I love his humbleness.
My daughter has seen him twice in LA and he's so sweet and his mom loves him too.
So it seems like they ran into his mother as well.
People point out he seems very down to earth.
In one interview he says i always try to keep a very peaceful aura and just approach everyone with peace and love.
Even with his concerts, he says he wants to make it feel like a show.
He says quote i try my best to sing to them and make it the best experience that they can, because some of these kids it's their first concert and i'm surprised that it's my concert that they're going to first.
So i try to make everybody feel as important as they need to be.
And it's just, it's insane.
So people are saying look at him.
He's such a likable person.
It doesn't make sense.
In a separate interview, he's asked even about the strangest place that he's made a song.
He says, I hot bathroom.
Oh yeah, I got a beat pack which is just like a pack of beats literally just files of beats while I was having dinner after church with my family on Sunday.
So again, family oriented, very nice guy.
And I was at an IHOP and then I got some beats and I was listening to it on my AirPods and I instantly got inspired and I was like yo, I need some quiet.
So I ran with my phone to the bathroom and I recorded the whole verse in the bathroom.
You just hear like toilets flushing in the background.
People are asking online, does that really sound like someone that would be connected to a death?
Besides, the car was sitting there for the past 72 hours.
David hasn't been in LA from what we know in the past 72 hours because of his tour schedule.
It's actually been reported that he probably hasn't even been in LA for the past month because of his tour.
Reported.
He's traveling with his entire team.
Probably is not getting free time right now.
This is, I mean, tours are crazy.
Celebrities, they say it's like the most insane thing you'll ever do.
It's clearly unrelated to him.
Also, he hasn't been arrested.
And it's a Tesla.
That's what netizens are saying.
They're commenting things like, don't Teslas record?
So if it's found in a Tesla, I'm sure the first thing the police do is check the Tesla footage and then they see David has nothing to do with it.
Otherwise, they would have immediately arrested him.
He wouldn't have gone to his next show.
That's what people are commenting.
Others are saying yeah, it was under the impression they record everything, because there was a guy that had scratched up all the Teslas in a car park and they got him because everything was recording.
No one was inside any of the Teslas, but it was all recorded.
So they're like obviously, if he's not been arrested and it was in a Tesla, which side note, I do think you can turn that feature off, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know, actually.
I do think so.
But that's what people are writing online.
Others are speculating.
It's a serial killer.
There was a body found in a Honda in a South LA tow yard a few days prior.
If they find any other bodies in tow yards, in cars, it will appear as though we have a serial killer on our hands.
Another one reads, a second vehicle in South LA was found to contain a dead body also in a tow yard.
I feel like there's a strange pattern here.
There was indeed another body found inside of a Honda Civic in South LA on August 25th.
This is a completely separate tow yard and South LA is relatively quite a distance from Hollywood Tow.
Details are pretty limited.
However, the investigation is not tied to the Hollywood Tow Yard investigation.
The police have confirmed that.
But one person comments How bad is your luck that a car that you are driving has a dead body in the trunk.
Or maybe you abandoned the car on purpose?
The whole thing is crazy.
Some people are saying, but isn't it weird that he's still on tour?
One person comments I'm sorry, but if a dead body is found in my car, I'm going to go home and figure it out.
It seems weird.
But others are fighting back.
It's not like he's Sherlock Holmes.
He's going to go home and figure what out.
The police are figuring it out.
He's cooperating.
He should cancel all of his fans.
Do the fans get refunds?
So people are having these back and forth conversations.
We were able to connect with people who went to the concert September 9th.
So this is like...
Less than 24 hours well, probably a little more than 24 hours, since the body has been found in his trunk.
I don't know when he found out about it, but it's less than 24 hours since the public has known.
He has a concert that night in Minnesota and they were under the impression that David is not connected at all.
Who was the people in the crowd?
Yes, so everyone at that point has heard of the news but nobody's thinking oh, something more.
It's just a really bizarre event that happened.
Yeah, so we were talking to um.
I'm just gonna say them because they don't want to be identified, but they as in.
It's a group of friends that went to the concert in minnesota and i was talking and asking a.
No, I mean everyone in the crowd.
Nobody was under the impression that something suspicious was going on.
It was not a weird energy of like, oh, it's sus, but I already bought my ticket.
It was genuinely, he is not connected.
In fact, there were even conversations of like…
We need to make sure that mainstream media does not try to drag down a person of color without evidence, because so far there's no connection.
And like, of course the media does in fact do that.
You know there have been lots of cases where that happens, which is these are very valid concerns, but they were just saying like that was the energy.
Like, everyone is like, no, like, clearly he's not involved.
The police did not name him as a suspect.
He's not flying back to LA.
He's cooperating with the authorities.
It just sounds like a really sad, random coincidence.
They describe his energy that night as, quote, he performed as if nothing was wrong.
He had a ton of energy and pep.
I remember he threw some labubus into the crowd, but he also, okay, this is hindsight.
He also gave extra attention to two child fans on the second floor balcony.
He signed one of his merch t-shirts for the little girl.
I didn't see any caskets at this concert, which would make sense.
There wasn't any more... Oh, really?
Yeah.
Is that like a change he made after the discovery?
Yeah, it seems like it.
Huh.
I couldn't verify that.
Every single place had a casket prior but this one doesn't.
Yeah, which would make sense even if he's unconnected, not connected.
Yeah yeah, just out of respect, it would make sense, right.
Yeah, so that at that time they did not think that was strange.
There was also not heavy security press, it was just a normal concert, they say in hindsight.
The only thing that they found strange okay, they did find this strange at the concert as well, but even more so now is that david kept encouraging men in the crowd to keep being performative.
But I will say David is chronically online, from what it seems, and I do know that that was like a huge conversation recently, like performative men conversation.
But he just kept saying, stay performative.
And, like, the men, stay performative.
Do you like matcha and labubus?
And they, they said it was just weird.
It was just kind of like weird things to say in a concert because you're like trying to hype up the crowd, you're trying to connect with them and then to be like where are my men at, stay perform.
It's weird.
Like are they supposed to?
Is that a diss?
Is that not a diss?
Like who who's being dissed?
It doesn't make sense.
It was weird.
Or like where are my performative men at?
But one thing was strange there was no encore.
So after a concert it's pretty customary that all the artists do a show of like okay, bye.
And then everyone's like, encore, encore.
And that's like the whole point, you chant.
And then the artist is like, fine.
And they do like five or six more songs.
And then, even when they walk off for good, usually people will still scream encore in like the tiny sliver of a chance that they'll do a second encore which, like doesn't happen often, but you can never not try.
There was no encore.
Like people didn't ask or he didn't?
No chant, Fernand.
Oh, nobody chanted.
So they don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Is it because people are trying to be respectful that maybe he had a lot going on outside of the concerts?
Or if it was just, maybe the energy was not great at the end, but they didn't mention it wasn't great.
He just ran across the stage at the end saying, I love you, Minnesota.
And that was about it.
I will say that the concert goers that I talked to, they very much regret attending.
Had they known all the new developments, they never would have gone.
And they actually feel...
Like it's been weighing on them that they went.
But they do say genuinely if you see online people had gone to that concert, you'll see that some people are just dogging on them.
And they're saying at that time you have to realize like it was different at that time because things were developing and they're developing at a quicker pace right now.
But at that time most people, even online, they either didn't know David and they were making memes or they were making jokes, or they knew David and they were like oh, this is like sad situation all around.
Yeah.
And then there were obviously a group of people that were like this is suspicious, this is strange, but it was not the majority.
And the rollout of information is excruciatingly slow.
And I don't say that as in, the authorities should tell us everything.
I actually think it's good when they don't, especially when it protects the integrity of the case.
Although I'm not sure that's what's happening here.
But it's just so slow.
And it makes people online try to look for their own answers.
The medical examiner issued a statement stating that the victim is a female, about 5 feet 1 inches tall, weighing 71 pounds, curly black hair, wearing a tube top with black leggings in a size small, a metal stud earring and a metal chain bracelet like a yellow colored one in the shape of a W.
The ME states that they have not yet determined her exact age or cause of death, but the police are investigating the case as just a death investigation.
So a lot of people were initially fixated on the victim's height and weight, with some saying either this is a very malnourished person or this is a child.
Yes, 71 pounds, crazy.
Even for a child, I do think that's quite thin for 5 feet 1 inches.
Eight days later however, September 17th 2025, the body in David's car is identified as 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
News reports often state that she was 15 years old, but according to the Emmy reports, she was found severely decomposed on September 8th 2025.
Her birthday is the day before, September 7th.
So it is very likely that she would have not made it to her 15th birthday.
The ME further states she appears to have been deceased inside the vehicle for an extended period of time before being found.
And the timeline is a little hard to piece together.
Okay, now the reports are, some neighbors are saying, it's all very vague.
Some neighbors are saying we've seen that Tesla around for like the past three weeks, just kind of.
They don't necessarily say moving around, but it seems like no one's paying exact attention of where that tesla is parked every day.
So they're like i feel like we've seen that for about three weeks, like that car.
But it is confirmed that the car had not moved in the past 72 hours, because that's when you can tow it.
That's why they did the white chalk.
They eventually towed the car, but the police came out to write the report.
Yes, when was that again?
That was 12 days before.
Yeah, so they just report a big dent.
But it's not immediate.
It's not like, 72 hours, let me come back.
It just seemed like it was... It didn't seem urgent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then Tesla also have insane... You can log it, so you can check everything.
Yeah.
Where has it been?
Exactly.
Everything is tracked.
Wow.
The neighbors say the car has been around, and...
The medical examiner says, Hmm.
When it is revealed that the body belonged to Celeste Rivas Hernandez, people find out that she went to school about 80 miles out of Los Angeles, in Lake Elsinore.
Celeste has been reported as a missing child multiple times prior, but most recently she was reported missing April 5th of 2024.
So well over a year ago.
But the big question now is, where has Celeste been since April of 2024?
How is she connected to David?
How did she die?
Where was she for the past year?
What was she doing?
Was she with David?
The only tidbit of information the public gets once she's been further identified is well, some people knew about this information prior to the identification of the body.
A lot of reports on TMZ were talking about it, but I think maybe some people take TMZ with a many grains of salt.
Naturally, she does have a shh tattoo, like shh tattooed on her right index finger in red ink, which David also has a matching one.
The people who are fans of David or wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt before Celeste is identified.
When they hear that news, they think it's not the most uncommon tattoo.
Rihanna made it popular.
So Rihanna had that tattoo.
David's a musician.
He's probably very much into Rihanna.
It just seems like lots of people have that kind of tattoo.
Maybe it's like having a butterfly tattoo.
It's not the most crazy, insane, unique piece that's ever been done.
But comments read, there's only three options.
This dude needs to change his circle or he's involved or or he's got too many damn cars.
So people are saying either someone in his circle did this because david was.
There's also reports that lots of people had access to the car.
That's what the police said.
David's crew, probably his camp, his team everyone had access to most of his vehicles.
I'm assuming he's a celebrity.
He's on tour.
It seems like everyone could get it.
Maybe assistants used it.
Maybe his manager used it.
I don't know.
Right.
So it seemed like lots of people were in and out of that car.
So people are saying either someone in his circle did it, or he's involved, or he has so many cars are getting lost and stolen and all these weird things are happening.
But then.
The same day, a tweet starts making the rounds online of the original poster.
So this is the original poster of the tweet.
They're saying, David Discord chat shows matching name Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
Not a good look at all.
Looks like some people knew.
Basically alleging that yes, the body has been identified.
And not only that, there are connections between David and Celeste.
They're saying this is not a random link.
This is not a random body that's been found inside of David's trunk.
This is somebody that he knew, perhaps intimately.
And this OP on Twitter, they start posting screenshots of a Discord server.
So Discord, if you guys aren't unfamiliar, it's like a messaging app.
People join a server and then you can just like talk to everybody on that server.
And David is in that server.
So this is David's Discord server.
And he's been very active.
He's previously spoken about Discord in interviews.
He's even pre-released songs on Discord, I believe.
So this is a very big part of his life.
October 23, 2022.
18 months before Celeste is reported missing.
She would have just recently turned 12 years old.
David asks in the Discord, Celeste in here?
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
Just Celeste, not her full name.
Yes.
How do we know?
Okay, that's why he says Celeste.
Yes.
Okay.
A username Celeste responds back.
Hi, David Bark.
So making a fun day, get his name.
David Burke is his real name.
Then in another screenshot, it shows March 28th, 2024, one month before Celeste is reported missing and 18 months before her body is found.
A bunch of Discord users are debating David's dating life, writing, I don't know.
I know he never had a girlfriend, but who knows?
He might have had like a sneak, like a sneaky link.
Other users report back, he has a girlfriend.
Another one writes, pretty sure he's dating right now.
What?
Yeah.
Skull emoji, skull emoji.
Her name is Celeste.
He said he was never in a relationship ever in his story.
Like he put on his Instagram story that he's never been in a relationship.
Someone just comments, she's so pretty.
Wait, show me.
That's about it for that conversation.
Then August 5th, 2024.
So four months after Celeste is reported missing.
This is about a year before her body is found.
Someone on the server writes, drop the one, drop the song.
The one with the missing girl, Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
This is a screenshot.
So like I said, screenshots can be edited, can be altered.
But I would say that most netizens are on the page of this is a legitimate screenshot.
That is crazy.
Someone dropped the full name.
Yeah.
So this is not a random Celeste.
I guess you can't really find out on Discord.
Yeah, and it's just like there's a lot of Discord drama we're going to get into.
Wow.
Up until this point, all the other messages seem like they can be explained away.
One easy explanation would be there's more than one Celeste, which is later evident.
But we will get to that.
But these...
This last message is weird.
The original poster to all of this goes pretty viral, which a good chunk of people are accusing him of faking these screenshots.
So he goes to screen record the Discord chat logs to prove that it's not Photoshopped, which I guess he's either a master Photoshopper or these are real chat logs.
That indeed did happen on a server.
But that's not even the part that netizens find weird.
The part that people find suspicious is right.
After he releases all of this on X, he posts another screenshot.
He's been kicked from the Discord server.
He writes, yeah, so I screencapped every username and ID, sent it to the authorities.
Can't post them on here since I don't want to get sued for defamation or doxing them.
Then another TikTok starts going through everyone's algorithms, which appears to be David in a parking lot getting out of his black Tesla with a caption, David photographed an area where the victim lived.
I will say we have no clue where this picture was taken with 100% accuracy.
We don't have metadata for the picture.
It could be in Lake Elsinore.
It could be in Kentucky.
Some netizens have taken to Google Maps to geolocate the exact location.
And if I had to make a judgment, a personal opinion, it does appear that he was in Lake Elsinore.
And if netizens geolocation spot.
Very well, that picture was allegedly taken really close, about a six minute walk from where Celeste Rivas Hernandez lives.
What kind of photo is it?
It's just him in a parking lot talking to another kid.
Someone sneakily took a photo or is it like a posed photo?
No, it's like someone's.
I don't think they sneaky, but it's not posed.
Oh, someone just snapped a photo.
Like, here's David.
Probably like a Snapchat photo of like, oh my God.
Look at David.
David's in our town.
Right, okay.
And Lake Elsinore is a pretty small town.
I mean, we lived in LA for almost a decade.
I've never really heard of Lake Elsinore.
So it's not, I wouldn't say it's like a destination everyone goes.
If you're like, he was spotted in West Hollywood, it's kind of, oh, well.
There could be lots of reasons for that.
I don't know if that's a coincidence, but people thought that was very strange.
That coupled with Celeste's mother told TMZ that Celeste had a boyfriend named David.
So Celeste's whole family has been very quiet about this entire case.
I would expect that they are working hopefully, very closely with law enforcement, but there are other speculations and rumors of why they've been so silent online.
But Celeste's mother has spoken to TMZ and she stated that Celeste had a boyfriend named David.
And that Celeste had been missing for more than a year.
And all of this added together is definitely not making David appear like he has no connection.
I'm not saying he's guilty.
I would not be able to know such a thing, but it appears he's connected right in my opinion, and it feels like by this point, every three minutes a new video starts going viral.
This one is um taken in a classroom.
Celeste's alleged former teacher is in a class with his students.
He's a science teacher out of nowhere and someone's like sneaky recording this one of the students.
He takes out his phone, busts it out and tells his students that he used to teach celeste.
It's like a little strange.
I don't think he knew one of his students was recording him, but he's like.
That's her in my classroom in front of this poster right here.
When I taught her, she met this dude on social media.
He was a rapper in LA.
He came and got her.
She ran away from home.
She was gone for like a month.
The cops found her in Hollywood, brought her back to our school.
She came back to our school, kind of told people this story.
She disappeared again in May of that year, May of 2024.
That's when her friends told me what happened.
And it was this rapper.
And then I found out yesterday that she's now dead in that rapper's car, cut into pieces.
You want to know how they met?
I feel like they just said it.
Social media.
This is legit.
A legit video of a teacher talking?
TMZ has reached out to the teacher who told them that she was frequently absent from school.
He didn't really know anything else about her home life.
But he was just telling his students this as a cautionary tale to be careful of who you talk to on social media.
Which there's drama with the teacher.
Some people say he looks way too excited to be sharing this story that he knows Celeste.
Some people think it's a cautionary tale.
It's a whole mess.
But that's ultimately the important thing of that.
But that's crazy.
Wow.
How do you explain that?
Yeah.
And while all of this is going viral, you have almost complete radio silence from those that are actually connected to this case, which is understandable, but it definitely doesn't help the growing mountain of speculations.
The only statements Celeste's family have made since the recording of this video are from her GoFundMe page, which read As many of you know, Celeste Rivas Hernandez has been identified as the body found last week.
She was a beloved daughter, sister, cousin, and friend.
Her family is heartbroken and devastated by this tragic loss.
They are seeking help to lay her body to rest.
Any funds you are able to donate are greatly appreciated, signed the Rivas Hernandez family.
Their original goal was $20,000 and they have since surpassed it.
There have been unconfirmed statements by the family." such as another tweet goes viral.
An Instagram account was created in 2020.
So this is confirmed that this Instagram account was created in 2020.
But we don't know who is behind this Instagram account.
Apparently, David follows this Instagram account.
It's like a private account, no pictures, barely any followers.
It's like a random account.
The allegation being that this account belongs to Celeste's brother, Matthew, who's 18.
So this is allegedly Celeste's brother.
Someone DMs Celeste's alleged brother asking, dude, why does David follow you?
All respect to your sister and I hate how shitty people are being.
Was it really him?
Jesus, all love, man.
Celeste's alleged brother, alleged real account responds yes, it was him, because he found my account out of nowhere and he followed me.
I guess, the insinuation being that David wanted to keep tabs on Celeste's family members to make sure that he knew what they were saying about what was going on.
Considering Celeste has been considered missing.
The DMs continue, fuck, well, he has it coming.
That's wild.
Just randomly.
Did you ever even talk to him?
Celeste's alleged brother responds, I met him once in person.
Did you and your family know of your sister being with him?
Like, was she living with him?
All this shit is so confusing and disgusting.
I knew and went to the police about it, but lack of evidence, so it was waved off.
Bullshit.
And now that there's like a thousand people backing you up and it's not going to happen again, but if they had listened, basically saying bullshit to the cops.
Even then, they don't do anything.
They haven't done anything towards him.
That's how it is with celebrities.
Just look at fucking Diddy.
They don't do shit.
I know, it fucking sucks.
Fucking crazy.
People suffer for it.
How long has she been gone?
Dead?
Two weeks.
Damn, that soon?
People have been saying like a month.
The dude's a weirdo.
His songs all have weird messages and imagery.
What do you think happened?
Like he just didn't want her to expose him being with her?
I don't know.
Damn, was your sister in love with him and choosing to stay?
I'm guessing it was all him just manipulating her.
Yeah, she was always saying that he was waiting until she was 18 to get married and stuff like that.
Fucking sick.
What's crazy is all these people in his circle who knew and didn't say shit.
I saw one guy did, got sued by him.
Oh yeah, okay, so this is the whole thing.
I'm sure you would have been too if you kept pushing.
Dog, what?
I never knew that.
My sister wouldn't say anything, ever.
Dude, there's so much shit in that Discord that he has.
What the fuck?
What Dis- There's a Discord?
The person allegedly talking- to allegedly celeste brother sends screenshots of discord conversations and celeste's alleged brother writes back what the fuck?
No fucking way, dude.
Please send me more if you know, dude.
Dude, i never knew this shit.
I wish i had known i could have used this.
I don't even have discord.
What's on the discord?
Is it the one that you just read or there's more?
It's mainly that.
And then a guy was talking about how there were allegations that david.
He heard rumors that david was talking to minors and he had said something about it and David threatened to sue him for defamation.
David even talked about it on his Discord allegedly where he wrote like he's about to owe me 30K for the defamation lawsuit.
There are screenshots of that, but we're going to go more on that later.
One part of the DMs that make people believe that this is in fact Celeste's brother is he does send three pictures of Celeste.
Technically, they could be pulled online.
Technically, this could be Celeste's friend from school who found these pictures.
I don't know, but the pictures look like someone who probably knew her.
But we have no clue if this is Celeste's brother.
And if this conversation is real and if it's even taken place.
So far, the only confirmed statements that the brother has made as of filming this is he has apparently told NBCLA that Celeste's family are grieving and are aware of the singer David, and that Celeste knew David.
He just gives one statement that says she was on her way to see a movie with him but never returned.
He also states that David would frequently pick up Celeste in the very Tesla that she would be found deceased in.
Oh, so the whole family is pointing finger at David directly.
Seems like it, yes.
By these statements.
Wow.
Yes.
And another statement to NBC News states that Celeste's 18-year-old brother says the family is struggling, and quote.
I'm just trying to stay positive.
I'm just trying to move forward.
My mom's grieving real bad.
My dad's grieving real bad.
Celeste also has a sister.
Now this is again unconfirmed, but it has been widely accepted that celeste's sister seems to have reactivated celeste's old instagram account, renamed it to justice, for celeste posted a few stories, so the stories read along the lines of bringing this account back, please share.
Last seen in lake elsinore.
So these are like the you know.
And another story.
Where can we please spread this story?
There's a link to the GoFundMe.
And another one that reads, we lost our girl, but we did everything.
Flyers at her school, TikToks, Instagram, Facebook, police, family searching everywhere.
Even our family in Mexico shared and prayed for her.
And another post reads, my mom hasn't spoken in a week.
She feels she failed her daughter, but she didn't.
She did everything.
Our house is quiet and broken.
Aside from that, nobody else has really spoken out.
Ruby Alonso, a resident of Lake Elsinore.
She told the LA Times that she's known Celeste and the entire family since maybe Celeste was in kindergarten.
She has a son around Celeste's age.
She tells the LA Times that after running away, she does recall Celeste being brought back on one occasion by herself.
How does she know Celeste?
Just like their family?
Yeah, they all live in Lake Elsinore and her son is around Celeste's age.
So they probably go to the same schools.
And she said that at one point, Celeste came back from running away by herself.
And then there was another time where the police brought her back home.
Wow.
So the police also knows a lot then.
And that's why people believe that the LAPD is being very hush-hush.
Some people originally thought that they're being hush-hush because David is a famous musician.
And they want to cross their T's and dot their I's because of what happened to the likes of Sean Combs and pretty much a lot of musicians.
Which I think is the case.
But I also think that they're taking their time to probably cover their own mistakes.
So they know this girl probably has a connection with David already, but they didn't do enough.
Yes.
And a big topic of the conversation is had this 14 year old girl been white, the whole town would have been flipped upside down.
And especially a person of color.
A black man would have been arrested without a body, without anything really, just any vague connection.
They might've arrested him already.
So there's that conversation as well as the fact that, I mean, this is in Los Angeles.
She's Latina and they come from a not so well socioeconomic background.
And it's just the reoccurring conversation of In LA.
The backbone of LA is the Latina Latino community and yet when something happens to them, the police don't care.
So there have been lots of big discourse that I think the police are trying to make us shut up basically.
I see.
Yes.
And the teacher even said that Celeste was brought back from Hollywood.
If that's the case, who knows how much the police know from Hollywood is a very, very specific statement to make, not just brought back from LA.
Yeah.
It's like, it's weird.
Yeah.
Ultimately Ruby, the neighbor says she deserves justice.
It's just so sad.
She was studious, a hard worker and intelligent.
Yeah.
Another resident, the Nadav family.
They own Del Lago Spirits, which is a business that's been in the area for the past 11 years.
He tells the LA Times that March 19th, so this was in 2024, almost two years ago.
No, like a year and a half ago, celeste's sister came in to ask for footage.
This is a month before she's last seen.
And he pulls cctv footage where at 7 am, a young little girl is seen walking down the street by herself.
He says he believes that that's celeste and he believes that she got into a car down the street from the store but she walked out of frame so he can't see the car.
He can't be certain, but he thinks that this is celeste.
He states the police have not contacted him for this video, but he does remember Celeste.
She and her friends would stop by to buy some snacks here and there, and he says she was always so quiet shy, just a sweet child.
I feel a connection to the community, and it's just so heartbreaking to see this.
But none of the statements really answer any questions.
As for David's side, there was that brief statement that David was made aware.
He's cooperating with the authorities.
But that statement was before the body has been identified.
Because after that, he cancels most of his tour dates.
And nothing.
Radio silence.
All we know... is that he has retained an attorney and it's radio silence.
Now I will say, retaining an attorney in a situation like this, even if he is innocent, would not be suspicious.
I think that that would be the smart thing to do, but people think it's weird that he canceled his tour dates after the body is identified.
So when the body is found in his trunk, that seems like the appropriate time.
That's when the shock is happening.
Everyone's like, wait, what do you mean?
And even though people did not think that he was guilty right off the bat, that seems like the time that you would cancel the tour dates.
But then the body is identified and then you cancel the tour dates.
It feels like oh, then you are connected to the body that's been found in the trunk.
It's just like a weird timing of it.
It doesn't make any sense.
Why would you cancel it if you are still very unconnected to the case?
You would say oh, wow.
Okay, my respects to the victim's family, but I don't know this person.
My car was stolen.
I feel sad.
Like it would be a very generic PR statement that would be pushed out like that.
But that's not what happens.
Others are confused by the fact that he did not report his car stolen.
There's actually a lot of arguments about whether or not car being reported stolen is a big factor in presumed guilt.
Some people think that David is rich now.
He's on tour.
He's busy.
He's 20.
He's not worried about one of his Teslas going missing.
He's probably not keeping up with his belongings like that.
Others are saying, it's kind of odd that he never reported it stolen.
I bet it's him or someone close to him.
I doubt a robber or a stranger just took someone's car, let alone a Tesla that everyone knows records to leave a body in.
It's weird.
The chances are higher it's him or someone who he knows or works for him.
Another person comments, that's what I think.
I think it's someone he, like I don't think he knew.
I think it's someone that works for him.
If they had something on him, he would have been detained.
Netizen's grip on the presumption of innocence is getting weaker every hour that this progresses.
A search warrant is executed inside David's Hollywood Hills house for several hours, close to 12 hours.
The yellow tape goes up, ton of unmarked police vehicles just parked all around the street.
Neighbors report seeing about a dozen officers law enforcement officers working in there, combing through the house.
Authorities are seen walking out with evidence bags, electronics.
The police say that the search warrant, several items of evidence were recovered and will be analyzed by detectives in the coming days.
This is an ongoing investigation.
Investigators are following up on several leads.
Which is one of the most vague statements known to mankind.
I think it has to be a skill to give a statement like that.
The house is not owned by David.
Like I said, it's actually leased by his manager, Josh Marshall, which would make sense.
A lot of celebrities don't sign their own lease agreements, but it is likely that David was the one living inside.
There's lots of collabs that he filmed inside of that house with other celebrities.
Hmm.
It's $20,000 a month to rent and the actual owner of the house told Rolling Stone.
This all comes as a complete shock to me.
They didn't even know David the singer, and they especially didn't know that a singer lived in that house.
They thought it was a guy named Josh Marshall because that's who signed the lease, right?
But they said until then I had no idea anything had happened at the house or what was going on with David and the missing girl.
I never knew David and I wasn't aware that he ever even lived in the house.
TMZ reports that LAPD had a specific division out at the house that primarily work on finding trace amounts of blood.
It's like the luminol squad.
They report that they were luminol testing for blood in his house, everywhere that you would expect, but also including drains.
So this is a... It's TMZ.
They used law enforcement sources that are not identified.
And again, it's TMZ.
So it's hard to say how accurate this information is, but I think this is what causes everyone to believe that she has been dismembered.
There is no concrete proof as of right now because the wording has been consistently changed.
Some notable outlets will say that it was just a head and torso found in the trunk, which then others are saying no, it was her, but in pieces.
So it's all over the place, but I think that this drain checking for blood adds to the dismemberment theory that netizens have.
So they were looking, but they don't know.
No results were disclosed.
Yes.
And technically, as of right now, her manner of death on her medical report is listed as deferred.
So that means to be determined, not a homicide.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything.
That doesn't really mean much.
And we'll get into theories of what the cause of death could be if it's something like deferred.
But the investigators seem to be operating as if they're investigating a homicide, even though they consistently keep saying it's a death investigation.
The investigation is being led by the LAPD Robbery and Homicide Division as a death investigation.
They executed a search warrant.
The LAPD chief states.
We have a lot of resources dedicated to bringing to a conclusion the, But to go beyond what's already been made public would be inappropriate.
As for whether LAPD are looking into David and Celeste potentially having a relationship, he says whenever you investigate a homicide.
And this was crazy because I was talking to the RM team about this last night, literally last night.
And my husband was like, oh, a homicide.
So it is a homicide investigation.
Yeah.
Because we were just reading through it so quick we didn't even catch it.
Yeah, because this is the whole thing.
Everyone's like saying deferred.
Like you guys are saying, not sure, not sure, not sure.
I don't know.
But then the guy literally goes homicide.
Yeah.
But then for him to just straight out say it, it was like the only confirmation that we've gotten so far, because so far they've been it's a death investigation.
Everything's so close to them.
Whenever you investigate a homicide, the detectives look at all of the associated issues as well.
And in this case, that's something that they would be looking at.
So it's just very vague.
While authorities have been searching David's house, the internet has been collectively searching his very extensive digital footprint.
And it's bad.
I mean, I think we've all seen the viral clips of another musician, Young Thug, in court just jamming out to a song that's playing in the courtroom because the prosecutors have admitted it into evidence.
They're using his lyrics as evidence and he's just like vibing in the courtroom.
He's enjoying himself so much.
Later the judge recites the lyrics hey, this that slime shit.
Ysl shit, killing 12, shit cooking white brick.
I'm not new to this.
Hey, i'm not new to this.
Hey, it's.
I'm so true to this.
Hey, i can put up a whole slime of a hundred licks slime or get slimed.
It's that slime shit which was supposed to prove Rico.
Also the prosecutors admitted his lyrics quote I never killed anybody, but I got something to do with that body to try and show that Young Thug was engaged in criminal gang activity.
The whole thing was a mess, but it was very important because people are now concerned that this is going to become more and more common.
Lyrics or social media posts or memes becoming evidence in the court of justice.
Others are saying it makes sense because there is truth to art that these musicians create.
I don't know how that applies, because I feel like lots of authors, lots of film directors should be locked up in jail if that's the case, but the whole internet does pretty much think that David has been confessing to everything in his music.
One of David's most popular songs is Here With Me.
The music video premiered November 23rd 2022 and it shows David in a blindfold washing ashore on a beach.
So Blindfold is typically associated with Itami, but at this point Itami is like not a known well figure in his music universe.
He washes ashore and all he can think about is this girl.
She has curly hair.
Lots of people say she looks just like the victim Celeste.
There's another, there's a person in the music video.
Yes, but this is someone that's been hired.
So it's not Celeste, but it almost.
Some netizens are saying it looks like he hired people to play Celeste in this music video.
But this is 2022 though, right?
Yes, and there are speculations that they've known each other since 2021.
Oh, wow.
And she was?
11 years old.
She has curly hair, a white flower in her hair, and it is a montage of them running on the beach running through water.
He's singing to her, watch the sun rise along the coast as we're both getting old.
I can't describe what I'm feeling.
All I know is we're going home, so please don't let me go.
And then you have these montages where they're hugging.
They're sitting watching the sunset with their backs turned to the camera.
A lot of people say, with the resemblance of the love interest, again it feels like an obsession with Celeste, because why does it look like Celeste?
The lyrics are, and if it's right, I don't care how long it takes.
As long as I'm with you, I've got a smile on my face.
Save your tears, it'll be okay.
All i know is you're here with me watch the sunrise as we're getting old i can't describe.
I wish i could live through every memory again just one more time before we float off in the wind.
Then it cuts to him in a blindfold, falling on his knees, realizing that he might have lost her.
He doesn't have her right now.
And then, at the very end ominously, it's an older david like i'm talking, middle-aged david.
Someone's playing david sitting on the beach by himself.
So that same bench, he now just puts a white rose where the love interest was sitting.
And then he walks towards the water himself and it just cuts to his clothes being on the sand.
I guess, the insinuation being maybe he walked into the water, because then young David is now washed ashore.
And I think the whole thing is like, I gotta go find her.
It's like an analyzation of the love of his life and growing old, wanting to grow old.
So I guess it's the idea of Yeah, we could fight all we want, because there's montages of them fighting.
But you know what?
At the end of the day, as long as I'm with you, I got a smile on my face.
So let me go find her again.
Seems to be the vibe.
Okay.
Previously, all the comments on this music video were about sharing how people went through their loss with this song.
Some people were talking about how they got married to this song.
Some people are saying it's a song that reminds them of their grandparents, or how they just don't have a lot of time with their loved ones.
But as long as they're together, it's a good time.
It's just like a lot of emotional comments.
Some people are writing.
I was in the NICU with my son singing this song and now what do you see?
The comments.
Now yeah, people are just the comments.
Are they read?
I don't care how long it takes.
It's a lot darker when you realize david wrote it about waiting for celeste to be of age, except he didn't actually wait.
Another comment reads as we're both getting old bro, she will never grow old.
Even monsters make beautiful music.
What a crazy world we live in.
Rest in peace, little girl.
Another reads, a demon with the voice of an angel has never felt so real before.
It's unclear if this song is about Celeste.
There are allegations that he might have potentially known Celeste since 2021.
He posts a TikTok that makes people feel that way.
We're going to get into that.
But David says in an interview that the song Here With Me is actually inspired by the Disney movie Up.
Hmm.
He says I was watching the movie and I got really inspired by Carl and Ellie's kind of relationship and their story and how Ellie dies and Carl has to go to Paradise Falls by himself.
I got inspired by that and I was like okay, what if I wrote about their relationship but Ellie stayed alive?
And I kind of went into my sister's closet.
I got to think about a relationship as a really old dude and a really old grandma kind of.
You know what I'm saying?
And I made this really beautiful ballad called Here With Me and I kept it in the vault.
I was like, okay, this is really good.
This is one of my best songs.
But I had anxiety and I didn't want to put it out immediately.
That has been a song that has been heavily analyzed.
As well as a more recent song March 8th 2024 this is one month before celeste is reported missing.
A music video for my house is not a home goes live.
The lyrics read hello, i'm at your door again.
I just needed a friend, but now i share a bed with you.
I'm not a little boy, no more.
I've made my stupid choices too.
Tell my mother, i'm sorry.
Tell my father just the same.
Tell my sister that her brother might have well gone insane.
You didn't want to fall in love.
You're looking out for yourself now.
It's starting to piss me off.
I thought i had you figured out.
Never thought you would call my bluff guess who belongs to someone else.
Now you get drunk, then start to curse me out.
I told you to watch your mouth.
That's exactly what my mother would warn me about.
I know you're better off alone, babe.
I could fix you, but i won't.
A lot of netizens are pointing out the line.
I'm not a little boy anymore.
And the fact that he's apologizing to his parents and even his little sister.
So he does have a brother as well, but he apologizes specifically to his little sister.
Considering people are saying, with these allegations, considering he has a little sister, it's very startling.
I guess it's always startling if someone is accused of having inappropriate relationships with a child and they end up having a little sister or they end up having daughters.
It's always even more of, this is very alarming information.
The top comment for that music video now reads, with 4,000 likes, he's not beating this case.
Every song is a confession.
Another one reads, in every video, he's blaming her.
He's mad at her.
He feels like she deserved it.
Like she messed it up for him and ruined him.
He's kind of psychotic.
His bloody shirt wearing alter ego Itami does make an appearance in this video as well, lighting the house on fire.
So this is one month after Valentine's Day, one month before she's reported missing.
And that Valentine's Day he actually posted a video where he said this is like his first time having a Valentine's Day date.
So people think it could be Celeste.
We don't know who.
He never said anything.
No.
David does release a few songs around that time, like five days before Valentine's Day.
Another song is dropped called Leave Her.
Notable lyrics netizens have obsessed over include, you call me at like two.
I can't sleep.
How about you?
You want me to come through.
I found peace without you.
You want what you can't have, but it's my fault.
I bought it for you.
I can't stop falling for her.
Did what she want me to, but I still leave her.
David says that this song is actually about one of his friend's relationships, that he observed how there was a very big power imbalance.
The guy loved the girl way more than she loved him and that ultimately led them to break up.
The same day, he drops another song called 2016.
Notable lyrics people have been commenting on read, I'm not the same kid I was in 2016.
I was young, I was dumb, now I overthink things.
I hate birthdays.
They mean nothing to me.
I don't celebrate, so don't buy me anything.
I don't deserve it.
I'm bleeding out on purpose.
I didn't care what you said when I was a kid, but you try to ruin my life a thousand times.
But now look at you.
David does an interview where he says that this song is to break out of his relationship-driven music so far and it's like the grungy gritty growing up punk rock feeling which you can hear in the song.
But in hindsight people are saying it's ironic the fact that he was allegedly dating a child, for him to be talking about what it was like being a child and how you ruined my life when I was a kid, or you tried to a thousand times when I was a kid, which people find to be rich, coming from someone who had the deceased body of a child in his trunk.
Additionally, he talks about how birthdays mean nothing to him.
But netizens have been overanalyzing one single birthday in this case.
There is a connection and allegation that David keeps dropping things on Celeste's birthday.
The most frequently talked about, one being the music video for one of his most famous songs, suspiciously titled Romantic Homicide, was dropped September 7th 2022.
Hmm.
To give further context though, and preface, that song was released earlier in July 2022, but the music video to the song was released September 7th 2022.
This is where it gets very confusing.
People see the upload date.
They see Celeste's birthday on her missing poster.
They think, okay, this is a confession.
He killed her, confessed to it in the song.
That's it.
Or some people are saying he knew he was going to do it and he confessed in advance.
Like life imitates art.
But it's really hard to determine.
Firstly, it has not been confirmed and signed in ink that David and Celeste were in a relationship, but assuming that they were, It's hard to pinpoint exactly when they started allegedly dating.
Some people believe 2021.
The reason being that Celeste went missing wearing a pair of Hello Kitty shoes, Hello Kitty Crocs.
They are listed on her missing poster.
She has been photographed in these Hello Kitty Crocs.
Overall, she just seems to have a very strong liking for Hello Kitty.
But David seems to also be obsessed with Hello Kitty.
Really, his instagram profile picture is hello kitty and a big bomb just an explosion in the back of an animated hello kitty in a tiktok.
He's posting he's standing in a hotel room and it's his song playing in the back and the caption on the screen is when your car declines at therapy and they bring in that one hello kitty girl you met in 2021 people thought that that was.
What does that mean?
I'm sorry.
When your car gets declined and they bring in that hello kitty girl, what does that even mean?
It's supposed to be like a TikTok meme.
I think it's supposed to be like, I need to pay for therapy.
My card is getting declined, but they bring in the Hello Kitty girl.
And now you like really need therapy.
You're like on your knees.
Yeah.
Is the vibe.
But the most important part is Hello Kitty Girl that he meets in 2021.
You see him fall to his knees before face planting onto the hotel floor.
And it's his song, I Can't Stop Falling For Her.
This is posted February 7th of 2024.
So just like a few months before Celeste is reported missing.
What's important though is in it, he's wearing a Hello Kitty keychain around his pants belt buckle.
One of Celeste's friends leaked a photo that Celeste had allegedly sent her.
There's no faces.
You just see, it's like if you were to hold your phone pointing to the floor and then take a picture.
So you see Celeste allegedly Celeste pants and Hello Kitty Crocs, the same one that she's been photographed in.
And then you see David in the same outfit allegedly David and she's kind of tugging on the Hello Kitty keychain that's attached to his belt loop.
Oh, that's a photo that you've seen too.
And that matches David's Hello Kitty keychain.
And the outfit that he's wearing in this TikTok.
Oh.
And they match the shoes that Celeste was seen wearing and had gone missing it.
And that's the photo that was leaked by a friend.
Yes.
And you haven't seen that photo from anywhere else.
So this is like a legitimate photo from a source.
Yes.
But to say that it is 100% Celeste is hard.
Right.
But it seems.
But a lot of things matches and it's a unique photo from someone.
I think I am being overly cautious.
If I were to say my personal opinion, it doesn't seem like it's a lust.
It does.
I mean, it just, the odds, there's too many coincidences and the chances of it.
It is true.
Like with today's AI, it's hard to really tell what's real and not.
So, you know, I don't blame you.
Yeah.
Now one TikTok David repost are two people getting married and everything is covered in Hello Kitty.
It looks like a wedding in Japan.
And the words are, this is me and my future wife if you even care.
To which the comments read, she went missing wearing Hello Kitty sandals, dot dot dot.
The way he knew she liked Hello Kitty and then made it into his whole persona is really sick.
Then another TikTok from December 2024.
This would be eight months after Celeste is reported missing and nine months before she's found dead.
It shows him waving around two Hello Kitty skateboards.
And the words on the screen read guess who's building Hello Kitty boards today, instead of dropping an album?
In the caption, it reads, Hello Kitty comes first.
I don't make the rules.
So netizens are like, who is the Hello Kitty skateboard for?
Then another one where he is singing to two Hello Kitty plushies and hugging them.
And the words read me singing to my Hello Kitties, because they're the only ones who don't rush me to drop music.
Caption reads, when nobody was there for me, Hello Kitty was there for me.
There's another one where he says got a side job cleaning sneakers and he's washing sneakers outside, and one of them are Hello Kitty sneakers.
Wow.
And they look like the sneakers that Celeste has been pictured wearing.
So all the comments are how- Wait, really?
You can see?
Yes, but I mean, these are generic models of sneakers, right?
But again, it's like one thing is a coincidence.
A thousand things are a lot of coincidences.
Yeah.
Even more, his recent Instagram post from February 19 of this year, 2025.
He does a Forward Magazine cover shoot and a lot of the plushies that he's pictured with, like he's just laying there surrounded by plushies, are from the Hello Kitty universe.
There's another one where he posts a picture on Instagram wearing a Hello Kitty acne sticker, which I will say I think I have the same ones, so I'm not necessarily one to comment on that, but it's on his nose and it just reads Hello Kitty good eats, great shows and new music heart face emoji.
Some netizens find his Hello Kitty obsession to be creepy, with netizens writing Hello Kitty is literally for the girls and the gays and the kids.
Like, that's it.
So there has been that.
I don't know.
Some people are defending it.
Saying Hello Kitty is kind of like an edgy thing guys will do these days.
It's contradicting to their otherwise relatively masculine, edgy energy.
It's supposed to be dorky, cool.
But that's not the problem.
The problem is Celeste went missing wearing Hello Kitty shoes.
So the connection seems to be too strong.
And then back to the date of the birthday.
There is a Discord message circulating which shows a deleted user on Discord.
So it just says deleted user interacting with other people on David's Discord.
And on September 7th, 2022, someone tells the deleted user, happy birthday.
Uh-huh.
Deleted user responds, thanks, babe.
Now David was reportedly having interactions with the deleted user and this same deleted user was posting a picture wearing a ring and a finger tattoo in red ink that reads David.
So people think that this is Celeste because she also has another red ink tattoo, allegedly according to her family.
That reads which matches David's tattoo.
So if they've known each other from 2021, like some netizens believe, him uploading his music video for romantic homicide on her birthday in 2022 could or could not be a coincidence.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I will say that, in this case specifically, the number of coincidences that my brain is normally comfortable with has been surpassed.
Mm-hmm.
In any event, the music video for Romantic Homicide goes up.
This would have been Celeste's 12th birthday and almost exactly three years before she was found dead in his car.
The music video has been analyzed like it is a piece inside of a museum and it is a weird music video.
The video starts with David wearing a full suit and a white blindfold, laying on the cold cement.
There's just rain falling on him.
He's singing, I'm scared.
It feels like you don't care.
Enlighten me, my dear.
Why am I still here?
He eventually gets up, walks towards the train tracks where a train is passing by.
And you know how, in between the train cars and even the train windows, you can see someone on the other side.
It looks like the ghost of a girl wearing a wedding dress.
Some netizens believe it looks like Celeste.
Some netizens say it looks nothing like Celeste.
Others say the vibe is like Celeste.
It's just everyone's fighting about it.
But regardless, people can kind of agree.
It does appear.
Hmm.
He finds the girl and now she's laying on a bloodied mattress, still in the wedding dress, but she's dead and there's blood everywhere and white roses are covered in blood.
The lyrics are, in the back of my mind, you died and I didn't even cry.
No, not a single tear and I'm sick of patiently waiting for someone that won't even arrive.
And that's like just repeated.
In the back of my mind, you died.
And now there are AI versions out there that now say, in the back of my car, you died.
Which is inappropriate to say the least, but in the back of my mind you died and i didn't even cry.
And at the very end the lyrics switch to in the back of my mind, i killed you and i didn't even regret it.
David drops the suitcase that he briefcase that he was holding, or suitcase and it's filled with bloodied knives, bloodied roses, And the lyrics that are playing is I can't even believe I said it, but it's true.
I hate you.
This has been a big part of the conversation online, to the point where this song is at least three years old.
It's September 23rd of this year.
It had its biggest streaming day of all time on Spotify.
Wait, September what?
23rd.
So after Celeste had been identified.
Oh, just like people started listening to it more and more and more and then...
The song is back on charting to Billboard 200.
I will say if I just would not use the song.
I mean, people have been posting TikToks to talk about how shocked and sad they are at the news, but they're using his music.
So it just doesn't seem like a great choice to be making right now.
Some people just genuinely have it stuck in their head because so many people are using it on TikTok.
I mean, there was this now viral moment where Kai Sinat is like having his mafia-thon.
And I think like someone was accidentally like singing or like I don't know if they were scrolling through TikTok.
But he starts singing two words of it.
And then he stops himself and he looks very stressed out.
Obviously, it was unintentional.
But I think that's just to tell you this song was very famous.
Yeah, this is really interesting.
A big song.
Now there's one fan of David's who analyzed the lyrics prior to all of this happening and he says David constantly feels like he's the only one in a relationship.
He's constantly telling his love interest that he feels unimportant and unappreciated in the relationship.
One of the biggest downfalls in a relationship, if not the biggest downfall.
You spend all this time dealing with people, whether it be your boyfriend girlfriend, best friend husband, wife or close friend or someone else, just to be treated like you don't even exist.
It got to the point where he hated her so much that he wanted to kill her.
Which is a bit crazy if we're going to be real.
But also kind of real if we're going to be honest.
This analyzation comes before all of the recent news.
So it's very interesting that this is how people have been taking the song prior to even.
The host for Mahogany, a podcast, they interviewed David.
This was uploaded May 9th, 2025.
A few months before Celeste is found dead.
He plays Romantic Homicide, the music video for David.
And David says, that was a fire, fire song.
That's actually crazy.
This is the first time I watched the music video all the way through in maybe a year and a half.
That's nuts.
He said the instrumental for Romantic Homicide just stuck with him.
I sat down and I freestyled the entirety of Romantic Homicide in one take.
And after I made that song I showed it to my mother and she was like the song's too violent and too sad.
You're not releasing it.
You're not talking about killing people in your music.
Not my son.
And I was like wait, I might be onto something.
Netizens think that that comment is now ironic because the whole internet believes that he killed someone, not just in music but in reality, but regardless.
His mom is not approving, but it just makes him want to release it more.
He says whenever my mom hates something, i know it's cool.
It's usually a sign that i'm supposed to do it low-key.
So i waited a couple of days.
I was kind of contemplating because if she ever found the song online and it did not blow up, i'm getting my butt beat the same day.
So i had to make sure that it was going to do well.
David says for the music video the blindfolded guy in the suit aka him in a blindfold, and then sometimes him in a bloody dress shirt is not him.
It's his alter ego named Itami.
He says I had the idea to make the first music video introduce a character that I had been kind of ideating for a really long time.
That's why you see him with the blindfold and the bloody shirt aesthetic and bow tie.
I'm really big into anime.
I'm really big into manga.
And I wanted to make my own manga series at one point.
I was writing a lot of poems and writing a lot of things for it.
And a big part of that manga was an evil version of me named Itami, which means pain in Japanese.
And he wears this blindfold.
He's basically an agent of chaos and kind of my alter ego.
And the story of the manga went I was a detective and there was an evil version of myself that would come out at random times, kind of like Fight Club Tyler Durden.
And he would commit the crimes that I would have to solve as a detective.
So when I was a detective, I'd be solving murders that I'm committing myself.
And it was like a cool little story.
I don't think anything, I didn't think anything would come of it.
It was in the vault for months and months and months and I introduced it for the first time on screen.
I had the opportunity with music to kind of explore this idea further and the romantic homicide music video, And people were asking so many questions.
I was like yo, this is kind of fire.
Nobody would have ever heard of it if it wasn't for the music video.
But at the time, you know, Itami was a staple of this music video and you kind of see him throughout the entire thing.
He's holding the knife.
You know, with the bloody thing You got the girl.
That's basically the ghost of the person that he killed.
It was his first victim in the manga, and I put it all on screen.
He says, he's basically the evil version of me.
And he's kind of garnered this cult that follows him.
He says, Itami has cult.
Itami.
Okay.
So this is so complicated.
The way that he describes it is the invisible string theory, all of chaos and evil.
You know how one person is connected to everyone with red strings.
Like everyone you meet in your life, you're connected to them with a red string.
He's saying everything evil and chaos, all is connected to Itami.
Hmm.
And so he has all these members of his cult that just are agents of chaos.
Okay.
And he says that's like one big element of his music.
Another one is the Bloody Rose aesthetic.
He says that was birthed in the romantic homicide music video as well, which is beautiful.
The idea that things can hurt you with the stems, which is beautiful.
Things can hurt you with the stems having thorns on them.
That became my entire aesthetic for the rest of time.
I kind of still, even to this day, use that bloody rose to kind of show how beautiful things can hurt you, even through music.
You see fans pulling up to the shows in the bloody shirts and blindfolds.
It's becoming a little movement and I'm glad it's kind of coming to fruition.
As for the alter ego, David says Itami is the one that is making me withered and feel these emotions like grief and pain and confusion.
He's the one that is weaving his way into my relationships and ruining them and introducing trauma and things like that.
You see him in the music videos and stuff, so he's basically the agent of chaos.
The genius video where he breaks down the lyrics of the song has also since gone viral in the back of my mind you died.
I didn't even cry no, not a single tear and i'm sick of patiently waiting for someone that won't even arrive.
David explains.
It's kind of like the storytelling aspect of the lyrics.
It builds up to this big moment where she died in the back of my mind.
I didn't kill her physically, but in the back of my mind.
She died and i didn't even cry, To which people are now commenting.
He's way too defensive that it was not physically, but in the back of his mind.
Others are saying that this is life imitating art.
Quote Another person writes.
Another person writes.
This legitimately has to be one of the most insane hiding in plain sight moments in music industry history.
And one of the top comments is actually just all caps.
Reading this shit was not just in the back of his mind.
Just to disclaim once more it's not technically a confession, because we don't even know if he did it.
But also the song was written, produced and released three years before Celeste was found deceased.
And music is not, at least right now, does not have strong evidentiary value in the court of law, at least right now.
It's hard to use the word confession.
I think a lot of people say maybe a premonition, maybe a bad omen.
Those are maybe more appropriate words.
There's just a lot of internet debates.
Some people think that everything is reaching.
Others say that his ominous explanations of his music videos are not helping to the creepiness of his music videos.
Others are also saying yes, the art can be dark, but why does David also have to be so dark about it?
They point to Lil Tecca, who has been going viral recently for rapping about driving in Ferraris and Mercedes.
But he admits in his Genius interview that he didn't even know how to drive at that point in his life.
So people are saying that could have been David.
But instead, the way that he explains everything just feels more eerie.
David says, I've seen people online take different meanings and interpretations from that one part of the song where it's like their past selves are dying.
So in the back of my mind, I killed my past self.
And they're not even crying because they've evolved.
They've become better people for having killed their addictions or other different stuff like that.
So I think it's very powerful in that way.
So he's saying it's open to interpretation.
But there are lots of symbolism in his music that have people running to every single thing that he's ever created to see if there are any more additional clues.
Likely due to the fact that people have very strong ties with him and his music and there are no updates right now.
So people want to see something.
But back to the birthdays.
Exactly two years before Celeste's body is found in David's trunk, he reposts a TikTok.
The first slide is Mario, the game character, crying on the stairs.
First lie?
Slide.
Oh, okay.
And it says on September 8th, bro, why are you crying?
You swipe.
The next slide is three hands holding roses and rose petals.
And on their wrists and arms, there's just thorns protruding out.
Lost petals, September 8th.
This is two years to the date of when Celeste's body is found.
And one day after her birthday.
That year.
The songs coming out will be Notes from a Wrist Hollow Prayers Rehab, Poetic Vulgarity and Once More.
Again, many netizens feel the two knew each other by this point.
Based off all of the rumors.
The screenshots from Discord David allegedly has a fascination with the month of September.
In another TikTok that David reposts, it's just a slideshow of emotional quotes.
But the very last one reads I thought I wouldn't have the courage to hope again.
But September came around with sweetness in its air and you came around with tender hands and soft eyes.
So, because of this album dropping near her birthday, two years to the date that she's found deceased, people are looking through this whole album trying to see if there's any clues, any messages in the songs.
And I'm just going to rapid fire go through them.
I'm not stating that there's anything of evidentiary value in this, but rather this is the conversation online.
I've just compiled it for easy viewing.
Notes from a wrist.
Netizens believe that this song, David sings more from Celeste's perspective.
This is psychoanalyzing in hindsight.
This is again, not me saying that David thought that.
But the lyrics include, run away from home again.
Alone with my soul impaled, run away from your loving arms.
Why am I so afraid?
Other notable lyrics include, washing my hands with this bloody water.
I miss the way I thought it was.
You and me against the world.
And now the whole world is just against me.
People are saying, washing hands with bloody water.
TMZ reported that they were checking the sink drains for blood.
They're saying, you and me against the world and now the whole world is just against me.
It just seems like a lot of people are saying, every lyric feels like it's happening in real time.
On the top comments it now reads, he literally describes everything.
From the time that he posted on her birthday, everything was right in front of us.
I can't believe it comes down to this.
He was telling her story little by little.
In the music video you see yet another love interest, who people say is a beautiful girl with very curly hair?
Some people say it's similar to Celeste.
Some people say not every girl with curly hair is Celeste.
It's been another debate.
And you do see Itami, bloody shirt, white blindfold.
And the music video theme is David having flashbacks to visions of this lost love.
And he spends time in this empty house by himself just thinking about what could have been.
Then there's hollow prayers.
Not as often talked about, but notable lyrics include lost again, trying to find myself searching through both heaven and hell.
I can't let go.
Oh, it's all my fault.
Can you take me and replace me with someone else?
I can't even walk anymore and my eyes are sore from all the tears I cried.
Please don't let me die.
Some people believe it sounds, again, more like it's from Celeste's perspective.
Not that he wrote it in Celeste's perspective, but more so the conversation is.
It's weird that everything feels so intertwined.
The song has been described as an emotional expression of David's needs for divine intervention and guidance.
He did a whole interview.
The song rehab is one of the more now controversial releases on this ep.
The official music video aired september 8th, 2023.
So again, exactly two years wait, another september.
Well, this is all.
September 8th, got it?
But this is the music video.
So all the other ones they have because they don't drop all music videos the same day they'll drop, like the lyric videos, but this music video has been heavily analyzed because it was also dropped on her birthday or the day after her birthday.
It's an anime-style music video and it shows David and his alter ego.
And you know it's Itami.
It's David wearing a bloody dress shirt and a white blindfold.
It's got this animated Itami and animated David.
They're fighting.
It looks like they're odds...
They're at odds with each other.
It's giving Jekyll and Hyde.
But in the music video Atami gets with a very pretty girl, goes on a date with her, gets drunk and then cuts off her arm and stabs her in the torso, killing her.
While he sings, I'm at the party with hella regrets.
I feel like getting in trouble again.
Kickstart repertoire with a shovel.
Again she fell in love with the devil again.
I gotta get her out of here.
I don't feel this way anymore for the girl that i used to know.
She thinks she's too good for me now.
No room in class for a clown.
Broken hearts and bloody sandals, bodies stacked on top of another.
I've been hearing gunshots inside my clouded thoughts.
You can't run or hide from me now.
One analysis from years ago reads the angry parts of David shine through as he reflects on a toxic relationship and seeks escapism through a lifestyle that is just as self-destructive.
But it's just another girl being dismembered and or killed by his alter ego.
To which the comment reads it's sick how he basically became obsessed and dehumanized her in order to turn her into what we think looks like a muse and write an entire act through multiple songs that would culminate ultimately in a death.
That's just one netizen's perspective.
Another comment reads, this is sick.
Every single song, even his tour.
It's almost as if his whole career has been built around his obsession with murdering this poor girl.
The analyzation of these songs have netizens believing that David just had an inherent obsession with Celeste by this point.
Some even accuse him of having a fantasy of wanting to kill her.
The next song is Poetic Vulgarity, which has been analyzed heavily due to one specific line in there that reads the right love, but in the wrong time frame.
Which netizens believe.
In hindsight, it's almost like him romanticizing an inappropriate relationship.
There's also a strange menace in his lyrics.
The song expresses that his love interest didn't tell him that she's leaving him.
So naturally, he calls her a, quote, heartless woman, time-consuming, headache-inducing whore.
That's all you are, that's all you ever were.
He does say, sorry for bruising you up with my words, but you did the same.
Others are pointing out that there's a lyric that reads, heart too small, you had to push me out.
And they comment small as in like a kid's heart.
Others comment, imagine calling a 13 year old a whore.
Or others are pointing out the lyrics, and biting your flesh, how does it taste?
I still remember the kisses you gave to a broken boy, drown out the noise.
People think it's sick that he's trying to call himself a boy.
Also the biting of the flesh, how does it taste?
There is a TikTok repost that has been making its rounds online.
It's a screenshot.
A repost is David did not post it himself, but he saw it on his feed and then he reposted it.
So it's not like he created this message, but it's a screenshot of a text message where one person writes imagine we were two cannibals in the late 80s who randomly met and then we fell in love and tried to be together and tried to be better and start a life together.
Then you died and I ate your bones and all.
The other party responds, dot, dot, dot, what the fuck is wrong with you?
The comment on that one now is, David's lawyer is going to be struggling.
Or she wasn't found complete, which again has been the alternating theories right now.
And then another comment, yeah, he did it, bruh.
Another comment reads, help, I stalked too far, now I feel like a witness.
Which you could argue, perhaps maybe it was an accidental repost.
But then in another interview he is asked if you could describe yourself as pizza, what would you be?
Pineapple.
Whoa, that was quick.
No, listen, I learned something the other day.
I was wondering why every time I eat pineapple, my cheeks will burn.
It's because pineapple has this chemical that eats away at your flesh while you eat it.
So I describe myself as a pineapple.
I eat away at your flesh.
I get it.
I think artists are naturally maybe stranger than the general population, or they try to be, they put an effort to be edgy, maybe that's just what it takes.
But at this point there's just a lot of weird coincidences.
There's just too many connections not saying he's connected to the death, but there's just there's a lot.
The top comment now reads bro, this will be evidence in the courts, which is debatable.
But the next song is Once More.
This is the last song on this EP.
The melody is soft, sweet, even retrospective.
But again, it is all about heartbreak.
Lyrics read, I love you.
Three words I don't say anymore.
Picking my mind up off the floor.
Will I put it back in my skull?
No, not ever.
Because you said we were forever.
That's some fable.
I can't move on.
The top comment now reads, So he killed her for trying to move on from him?
She was finally outgrowing him and he couldn't deal with it?
This all comes out the day after her birthday.
Coincidence or not, it's up to you.
But adding more to the birthday coincidences, David's last Instagram post is from September 7th 2025.
One day before her body is found. on her what was supposed to be her 15th birthday.
The post is him promoting his Withered Deluxe album, which was scheduled to be out September 19th, which is two days after her body is identified.
It has since been pulled.
The Deluxe album is not out.
The original Withered album is out.
But he writes in the caption, Every song written exclusively by me on my phone, baby.
This is a passion project I put together to make sure I didn't lose the raw emotional weight my music carries and how much it means to you all.
Thank you to all my friends who collaborated with me on this.
Everyone ate their verses up.
Heart, heart, heart.
So are people reading too much into it or not?
I feel like that's something only time will tell.
If David is found guilty, then everyone will agree.
No, we were not reading too much into it.
We as in collective internet.
If he's not arrested, if there is evidence that comes out that shows that he's not connected which, at this point in time, it seems like it would have to be the most insane explanation.
It would have to be like the most even crazier than what's already happening.
And what's already happening is already so bizarre that I just I mean, I don't know if my mind can even comprehend what possibly could be the explanation.
But if that were the case then yes, people are going to think that, oh my gosh, the internet overreacts.
They were reading way too much into it.
They need to go touch some grass.
So it's just only time will tell.
But to give you some full context, in an interview David says his mom was confused how he's coming up with all these lyrics, because he's dropping a song a week at one point.
She's asking him, you're homeschooled.
What do you know about love?
What do you know about heartbreak?
David says, I would go on Discord.
I would go on Fortnite and I would go to the squad fields.
It's where you can just talk to people.
And I would just let people talk to me and just tell me about their lives.
I was just an open door and an open outlet for my peers and my friends to just vent to me about different things in their personal lives and stuff like that.
And I would basically just take their lives, write songs about them and write songs for them.
And they didn't even know it.
It was just the most beautiful thing.
It's so poetic to be able to take somebody's life and put that in a song and then have millions of people resonate with things that aren't even about me.
So maybe we are reading too much into it.
Maybe none of this has anything to do with Celeste.
However, Discord.
Discord is where everything is coming out.
Screenshots of the past.
Conversations with someone who could be Celeste.
There is so much happening on Discord.
And even David has spoken extensively about Discord.
So he talks about Discord like he's on there every day.
He would tell Zach Sang like...
I was streaming.
I'd be like, let me get on Discord.
Let me invite 100 people on Discord and get on a video call and let's all listen to my album together.
He says sometimes, like, I guess the most important part is that my Discord likes it.
My Discord is my core fan base.
So if someone's not vibing with some of my stuff at Interscope, I'd be like I'll sneak it in the Discord and leak it myself.
Hmm.
He says, that's why I use Discord so much.
That's why I'm on Instagram and TikTok so much, because the people that are listening to my music are the ones that are gonna stick with me, are the ones that I wanna hear feedback from.
Recently, the moderator for David's Discord posted a message.
We, the Discord and Twitch staff team, want to clarify what we know.
Also, a lot of older people have taken this to mean that Discord and Twitch have made statements.
These are mods, okay?
They're just like normal people that can moderate a subreddit or can moderate a Discord.
They're not affiliated with the actual company.
This is after everything that's happened.
Yes.
We, the Discord and Twitch staff team, want to clarify what we know and didn't know regarding Celeste.
We were not aware of her true age or that she was a missing person.
We also did not have any contact with her outside of what was public.
From what was shared in David's Twitch streams and from her role in the server, we understood her to be around 18 to 19.
She appeared in two streams but was otherwise not active in the server and we did not have ongoing communication with her.
Most of us are not located in California, so we are not aware of any missing persons reports connected to her.
The mention of her full name within the server was not seen in real time due to how fast the chat moves when David pings everyone.
We no longer associate with David.
We do not support his actions in any capacity.
We are deeply saddened by the situation and extend our prayers to Celeste's family.
May she rest in peace and may her family receive justice.
This comes after Discord moderators are seen trying to purge the server of messages and pictures.
What?
Yeah, there was a whole thing where they're just purging messages, deleting.
But I will say, in the United States Discord does frequently cooperate with the authorities to turn over relevant data.
It's definitely easier to get information in the U.S. from Discord.
Okay, so they said Celeste appeared in two streams?
Oh, yeah.
We're going to be talking about that in a second.
Oh.
But there's a lot happening on the Discord, along with people alleging that from 2023.
There are screenshots of the Discord chats.
And they comment in 2023 that David only adds underage girls.
The users are agreeing on Discord.
They say, I know, right?
Or commenting.
I'm not joking either.
Some say they're usually like 15 or 16 too.
Another says, what the fuck?
David's a pedo.
This is from March of 2023.
So this is a year before Celeste is even reported missing.
There's another message of an underage girl allegedly talking to David and he allegedly texts her.
Hola.
Okay, so I've been up all night thinking logically about you work life relationships and realized something that you'd agree with if you see it the way I do.
Who's talking right now?
David.
Allegedly.
Straight from my heart.
I really, really, really, really love you.
But I have been checking my schedule for the rest of this year and next year.
And I'm barely in Texas.
I believe long distance relationships work under the right conditions.
Like you being able to travel with me, etc.
But you're still in school.
With that being said, I don't like hiding anything from anyone.
I would love to have a public relationship with someone.
But the way this is going...
It's just we would have to be secret or something.
I want you to be happy, but you still have so much left to do in these last two years of high school and it may change your view on this entirely.
And I would gladly wait for you if we were both in the right headspace when that time comes.
I still want to be there for you though and talk like we did before it got complicated, LMAO.
I love and care about you and need to make sure you're not alone.
We are still interlinked.
Wait, who is this?
This is another person coming out saying that these are text messages that David had sent her and she is underage.
These are text messages?
Yes.
And she came out with this and that's it?
Yes.
Okay.
Then another message.
Please express yourself thoroughly.
Please know Oki or KK.
I want to know everything going through your head. which if this is true, it's really bad.
Other girls have come out on Reddit to post screenshots of DMs on Instagram that they've received from David, allegedly with one writing he followed me in 2023, when I was well under the age of 18, and these are our texts.
I also remember one of his friends saying in a group chat that I was in, saying all David follows are teen girls, something along the lines of that.
So there must be other victims.
The DMs she posts are flirtatious.
David allegedly responds to her story saying, LMAO, I swear you're shorter than me.
Wait, 2020 when?
2022?
2023.
2023.
So two years ago.
Yes.
So David was 18.
Yes.
But she's saying she was well under the age of 18.
Okay.
So I mean, if the rumors are true, he might have allegedly started talking to Celeste when she was 11.
So it's not like he just turned 18 and she is about to turn 18 in three months.
She said she's well under the age of 18.
Not like 17 turning 18 in a month type of situation.
The DMs she posts are flirtatious.
David's responding to her story saying, Ella Mayo, I swear you're shorter than me.
And she responds, nah, you're mad because I guessed your real height.
No, no, no, you didn't.
Let me find out you're like a...
I don't know if this word is acceptable anymore.
D-W-A-R-F.
For real.
And then she responds, what you be wearing these days?
It's giving Lil Uzi Vert.
He says, stop.
And he gets very excited when she tells him that she's going to see him perform.
And it's a must for her to attend his concert because he's literally on her phone case, which people comment the way he texts.
So I don't know.
I do, I'm inclined to believe, because I like to just believe when people are speaking out about someone, especially when they're in a position of power, especially when the people speaking out are allegedly children.
It's vastly different text messages.
Obviously, one of them is a much more serious message.
So it makes sense. that they have different cadences and different tones.
But it's not so different where it doesn't seem like the same person.
However, one thing to know about these DMs that I find very scary if they're real is the way he texts is like an underage girl.
Hmm.
People believe this is his way of disarming children.
He doesn't text like a love interest.
He doesn't text like someone maybe older.
He texts like an underage girl.
Like a fellow girlfriend.
I don't know how to describe.
Like the stop.
Like let me find out.
It just feels very girl to girl almost.
Yeah.
I don't know, people were pointing it out that it's very interesting.
Then there are just other questionable Discord chats that are being released.
Screenshots of what appears to be David's account on Discord writing in the chat, gore over porn.
I used to be addicted to watching gore videos.
I love gore.
But one of the more heavily talked about messages from Discord is August 15th, 2024.
Four months after Celeste is reported missing.
14 months before her body is found.
Someone on the server writes, drop the one.
The song with the missing girl, Celeste Rivas Hernandez, which is apparently a demo that has leaked in December of 2023.
So this is not a recent posting of a song.
If that were the case, a lot of people would think that it's AI generated, but this is four months before Celeste is reported missing.
The lyrics read, so this is what it's like to not need weed to get me high.
I love it when you hold me when you cry.
Just because be my valentine, I wanna make Cupid suicidal.
These are the kind of thoughts that cross my mind just because, just because i love you so much.
I love you so much darling, i would love to ease your mind, but you only open up when you get high.
If i had the money, i would buy us time, just to get by, just to stay high.
Oh celeste, the girl with my name tattooed on her chest, smell her on my clothes like cigarettes.
I hear her voice each time i take a breath.
I'm obsessed.
Oh celeste, afraid you'll only love me when i'm undressed, but you look so damn gorgeous in that dress, Missing you so much.
It makes me depressed.
But I digress.
I love you so much.
Netizens are confused.
She says Celeste has a tattoo of his name?
On her chest.
Oh.
Speaking of unreleased songs, there is a video of David.
It seems like he's playing a song for his Discord, which this seems to be one of the more verified unreleased songs.
It seems like it was scrapped from his newest album.
But in the beginning, you hear a girl's voice, almost like a voicemail.
And she's saying, you are one of my best friends.
And she sounds like she's about to cry.
There's a lot of alcohol in my system right now.
If you could just ignore all this message, because I just miss you so much.
And it sounds like she starts sobbing.
Notable lyrics from that song include Nobody ever caught me, But I've spoken too soon.
In the back of a police car I forget whatever I knew.
I ain't telling nothing.
Do the same if they ask you About how you make me feel I get so high, I forget what's real.
Baby said she forgot me.
Huh, do I need to come remind you?
I try to give you all my scents.
I even started drinking less, But I'm still so messed up in my head.
Maybe I should try to settle for less.
Maybe I should ask my mother for what's best.
I don't even like it when you get undressed.
Even when we're home alone, we don't ever have sex.
I'm talking about how you make me feel.
I get so high I forget what's real.
I'm sorry, this is bullshit how you make me feel.
I mean, are these just songs or do they all have a deeper meaning?
I guess it really depends.
Even David switches up his answers.
In some interviews he said you know, some artists are very particular about the way they make music.
And if it didn't happen to them, then it's not a song.
But I feel like music is such a universally understood language.
You could write about anything and somebody will understand it.
Somebody will connect it to the first couple of songs I wrote.
They weren't even about me.
He says in an interview in 2023 if I'm watching someone, or even like I'll see somebody else, I'll see somebody walking down the street at a parking meter and I will plan out the rest of his entire life.
And I become that guy for a day and I write a song about him.
I try to get every perspective I can, every possible perspective, every possible viewpoint.
In a TikTok he straight up writes me writing love songs without ever literally experiencing love.
Tongue emojis.
Silly face emoji.
Goofy emoji.
But then he also says I'm writing at this point about myself and my emotions and my vulnerability and I wasn't doing that a lot the last couple of projects because I was homeschooled.
I didn't have anything to talk about and people were asking me you write all these beautiful songs when you have no relationship?
I was like, man, I'm a prophet, bro.
I just spoke it into my own life.
I kind of felt like it was a prophetic thing that I was speaking about heartbreak and love and all these things I've never experienced, ever before.
But then I actually experienced them and it was like yo, I really said this about myself two years ago and it's happening.
Which is what people also are saying is kind of creepy.
They were going through his songs and they were saying, what's happening now?
It seems like he was planning it, fantasizing about it, speaking it into existence, predicting it.
Zach Sang asks him in an interview, but is it what you really expected?
Heartbreak, love?
It's weird because I have such a weird view and take on situations like that.
I'm always looking for writing material and these types of things.
So instead of taking it to the chin, being like, oh my God, I'm so heartbroken.
I go straight to my phone or band lab and I go straight to the studio and write about it.
I never actually fully process situations like that.
I'm always expecting it to happen.
And then as soon as it happens, I'm writing about it.
When you say expecting it, meaning you get into a friendship, expecting it to end in a devastating tragic, sad way so it can inspire art, are you almost like manifesting it to a certain degree?
I don't know.
I hope not.
I really hope I'm not because it feels that way.
Because I look back to my old songs and all those songs I wrote in my closet or my sister's closet in 2022, when I'm looking at my life in the past eight to nine months and I'm like, whoa bro, those songs are soundtracking my life.
And when was this interview?
This one was recent.
So the eight or nine month is like the pretty recent.
Yes.
Seems like he's referencing early 2025 and 2024.
And the songs were the ones that you were talking about at the beginning, like Romantic Homicide Here With Me.
All those sounds.
Yes.
Those songs are soundtracking my life, so I hope I'm not involuntarily doing that.
But it might be in a way, not gonna lie.
In another interview he says I feel like the songs I made in 2022 and right now are being made in advance.
And it's so crazy to be able to listen to the EP and have things connect to me now that I didn't connect to me when i made them.
I made them in advance.
I made them for my future self, like a diary almost, and every time i listen to my songs i'm like rereading this diary and i'm getting advice from my past self.
It's kind of like a weird experience almost.
There's a video of David also performing on stage in a bloody dress shirt.
I believe this first, this is like an unreleased song that he is performing.
First performed June 29th, 2023.
The lyrics could mean everything.
They could mean nothing, but netizens find it interesting.
It's?
I don't care about the law when i'm with you, because i be breaking it all the time.
I need you to know that life get crazy, so won't you let me slow it down?
Yes, no.
Or maybe i take it as a yes because you're still around.
Ain't that a felony?
Dark hair, brown skin love, that melody baby.
If you look up for love, i think they're selling it on the corner of the street.
That's a felony.
Wow, that's wild.
Then a new screenshot starts making its rounds from February 26 2024, two months before Celeste is reported missing.
On a TikTok that David posts, a user by the name of Robin comments waiting for LAPD to get your ass for messing with a 13-year-old girl.
Thumbs up emoji, cat shock emoji, cop car emoji.
This is like at the time?
Yes.
This is on Instagram?
This is on TikTok.
In his comment section, this is like two months before Celeste is reported missing.
So there are people already know stuff.
Yes.
And where are these people now?
They're not speaking out, right?
Not publicly.
What?
We don't know if they are.
I mean, I think.
Wow.
And people couldn't find who this person is who commented it.
There was another person people found and I'm going to be talking about it later but he felt like he heard a rumor, he repeated it and then everyone was explaining to him it's not true.
And then he felt like he was trying to ruin someone's career.
He honestly felt bad about it.
What?
Because he was like, oh, it was like I was wrong.
Turns out he doesn't believe he's wrong anymore, along with the rest of the world.
But it's just wow okay, i don't think that people had concrete evidence, and the ones that did, i don't think anyone was willing to listen to them.
February 2024 celeste would have been 13 years old.
So this is the timeline is kind of making sense.
But the more damning piece of evidence that has been circulating is a live stream of david and who appears to be celeste.
This is apparently from january 2024, three months before she's reported missing.
It's a live stream of David and a girl sitting in a kitchen.
The girl looks young.
She's wearing giant oversized eyeglasses.
She has curly hair.
She has a hood covering most of her face.
He's reading the chat out loud.
Pray for his career, chat.
He looks at the girl next to him and asks, are we done?
Are we done?
And she responds, we need to delete this.
David calmly says, mods, can we delete all the VODs?
And as soon as the stream ends, delete the stream too.
Can we delete everything?
What?
The girl who looks to be Celeste is rumored to be Celeste is giggling a little bit, but it looks more like an uncomfortable giggle.
But someone in the comments writes, nah, you going on Epstein list.
Oh.
David is dramatically saying, yo, yo, yo, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
And then the girl tells him to read a separate comment because it would be mean if he doesn't answer.
It's like a fan comment.
It's a nice comment.
And then another segment of the video.
He puts his hand on the girl's shoulder and said I media trained you.
That's controversial.
To which the girl responds, no, you didn't.
It's controversial of raping kids.
I'm lost.
What is happening?
So he's live streaming with a hooded girl that nobody he'd never introduced.
Who this is?
I mean, we only have random snippets of this live stream.
I we haven't been able to find the full live stream, so no context.
Nobody knows what's going on.
Yeah, it's just, we know there's.
You're going on epstein's list comment.
We know that she says is it controversial of raping kids?
Because he says that's i media trained you that's controversial.
No, you didn't.
It's controversial of raping kids.
So she's basically calling him out saying no, you are controversial for raping kids.
Basically, that's what the internet is insinuating and gathering from this live stream.
She starts covering her mouth and laughing and both of them decide they're going to get off the stream and David ends with delete everything, delete everything, everything goes.
And the stream ends. which feels like evidence enough that something bad is happening.
And there are other sightings of what appears to be David and Celeste together, like one where he's seen with a girl wearing a Gap hoodie.
Celeste's missing child poster is her wearing a Gap hoodie, the same Gap hoodie.
Then video snippets of David bringing a girl to other streamers' houses and she introduced herself as Celeste.
She's like shaking Jason DeWien's hand, and she's like, I'm Celeste, right?
Hold on, hold on, okay?
Yeah.
There are other videos of her being pulled in backstage at a concert wearing pink leggings.
So now people are like, why haven't the authorities arrested him yet?
Well, for one, this makes things much trickier because now there are two Celeste.
In David's life, there are two girls named Celeste.
One of them was found dead in his trunk.
The other one is very much alive.
And she is not a minor.
She's an adult.
She's around the same, I think a year or two older than him.
And she has even changed her Instagram bio to a different Celeste.
That's it.
A different Celeste.
Literally, quote.
She has not made any public statements.
She has not come out to say David is innocent.
He doesn't know the other Celeste.
It's me all along.
I'm the Celeste that he's been dating since 2021 or 2022 or whenever.
But there are two Celestes.
And they were dating?
That's what it seems like.
Or at least they're together a lot.
There's lots of theories about these two Celeste.
And so every single piece of media, every single picture, every single video it's the comment section are just netizens fighting of which Celeste it is.
Because it's so hard to tell.
I will say with this live stream where she says, is it controversial raping kids?
It feels like it's the deceased, the victim Celeste.
Just because when you, like I saw someone analyzing her dimples, which are very specific to her.
So it seemed like it might be the younger Celeste, but it doesn't really matter if it's 14 year old victim Celeste or the other Celeste.
Some people call her decoy Celeste.
Some people call her the other Celeste.
Some people call her the second Celeste.
Either way, it's just a weird situation.
Even if it's either of them, it's bad.
It's the fact that what she said, right?
Is it controversial to rape kids?
So it's either, hey, allegedly, this is what people are gathering.
It's either, hey, you did this to me.
Is that controversial?
Or it's, hey, you did this to kids.
Is that controversial?
Which either way, it's a very weird live stream. that is very suspicious.
So now there are pretty much confirmed two Celeste, who by most netizen opinion, they look similar.
And what's even weirder is that there have been, and I'm gonna break this down later.
There have been, it's not confirmed, but I will say general consensus, general opinion.
There's like, okay, some pictures generally people think it's the victim Celeste.
Some pictures and videos, people are kind of all in agreement that it's the other Celeste.
So there's everyone sorting these media files of screenshots and pictures and videos into which Celeste is it.
Which one, right?
But this is where it gets confusing.
Both of them wear the same things.
And people find that very weird.
For example, the other Celeste has been allegedly pictured wearing the same exact Gap hoodie.
I don't know if it's the same one as in one of one, but it's the same color, same look.
Wow.
So I can see the conspiracy behind that.
Yes.
Okay.
Because also another thing, right?
The Celeste... They're so... It's just so tricky.
The other Celeste is allegedly the one that David would bring to events with him.
And she would introduce herself as Celeste because that's her name.
And remember how I mentioned she would go to live streamers' houses?
Jason DeWeen is a name that has been popping up.
He's like a live streamer.
And he had to clarify later that the Celeste that he met at the FaZe Clan house was not the one that was found in his trunk.
It was this Celeste, who is of age.
And it seems like this Celeste has actually met a lot of people and has been out publicly with David.
And so even the Discord mods.
They were saying we were all under the impression that she was 18 or 19.
So now people are like, wait, are they talking about the other Celeste?
Or are they saying that they thought younger Celeste was older?
Because the police have confirmed that the younger Celeste did have multiple fake IDs which she would use to get into establishments that were 18 and up.
So there are anecdotes online that are saying I think that I met the younger Celeste, but I don't know, because we were in a place where you had to be 18 and up to get in.
So I assume she was not, but I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, I see.
So it's just very confusing.
And they look similar from afar and it almost seems like they dress similarly, whether it's on purpose or not.
And it does seem like the other Celeste, is more publicly out and about with David, whereas the deceased, the victim, it does feel like if they are connected.
He's just hiding her.
And that's why there's this one video of a girl that looks like Celeste wearing pink leggings and she's being rushed to backstage of his concert.
And she's got a hood over her head.
A lot of people are in agreement that that is the victim Celeste, because she seems like she's hiding.
She seems like she's not trying to be seen.
Whereas the other Celeste, she's at a live streaming house, the FaZe Clan house.
And she's like shaking live streamers hands being like, Celeste, I'm Celeste, I'm Celeste.
Right.
So every this is public, online public information that David is dating Celeste or is close with this woman named Celeste.
And this other Celeste is literally in every streamers live stream.
People are seeing her.
Yes, there are clips of her in streamers, live streams, i see, i see and there i mean her, her name is also celeste which those streams are reaching like i don't even know, like like the whole world versus at the concert.
Arguably it's more private because you get like a few thousand people versus streams you get like the whole world.
And so people are saying in the discord chat where people are saying oh, he has a girlfriend, her name is celeste, she's very pretty.
People don't know who that's in reference to.
Well, But then there are the ones on Discord that's like drop the song about the missing girl, Celeste.
That drops her full name and says drop the song about her.
Then it's like, okay, wait.
So now it's getting tricky to discern which one.
On top of that, that comment that was like LAPD is going to get your ass for dating a 13-year-old girl.
It seems like the whole world did not know he was dating a group of people close to him or had business relations or had collaborations with him.
Knew him on like a maybe creator to creator or musician to musician level.
Maybe have come across Celeste, that is of age.
And then it seems like a very small group of people if true, if they were dating knew about Celeste, who was found deceased.
Yeah.
So it just makes it very tricky.
And there is a question of again what are the odds that he's connected to two Celeste that look similar, that both wear gap hoodies, that both like to wear specific glasses and dress specifically, or is this intentional?
Is there any other girlfriend or any other woman or any... That looks similar?
Or just anyone else he's allegedly dated in this period?
Is there other girlfriends or...
Um, there is one friend who was spotted out with him publicly frequently and she had to make a statement saying that she doesn't want to talk.
She'll talk when she is ready.
And there's just a lot going on.
But people point out that she also has very curly hair and looks like Celeste.
So it's just like netizens are confused.
So there are conspiracies.
There are theories online that he started dating another girl named Celeste.
That is of age, that looks like the victim, the child Celeste, but is an adult.
And so when people say, hey, you dated a minor named Celeste, he can say, no, you're mistaken.
She's not a minor.
She's an adult.
You can check it out.
You can see her ID.
Her name is Celeste and she's an adult.
So those pictures are of my adult girlfriend that you just assumed was a minor.
Some people think that's what was happening.
That's the speculation online.
And maybe it is working, because the internet cannot seem to agree on multiple different videos and pictures of David and Celeste, whether or not this is the Celeste or the other Celeste.
Some netizens are even wondering if maybe he's innocent because of all of this.
They're saying, what if it's a setup?
What if he's getting framed?
What if he's only ever dated older Celeste?
And all of this has been to publicly take him down and frame him for murder, which I would say would be an insane theory of truth.
Like, I don't even know.
I feel like the odds of getting stuck in a black hole in outer space would be higher.
But again, nothing is impossible.
Never say never.
I don't know what happened.
I'm not personally involved, but it's just, it's a crazy theory.
One person sums it up pretty nicely, which is y'all keep saying it's to Celeste.
The minor one was found dead in his car.
Like, why are y'all trying to skip over these important details?
The other Celeste isn't important right now, because some people are using the other Celeste to say oh, he's innocent.
He's innocent.
He was dating the older Celeste, but it still does not negate the fact that the young Celeste, the child, the 14-year-old girl, was found deceased in his trunk.
But I think that's where I am going to leave you with this episode for today.
I'm going to try and film the rest and get it up in a day or two after you're seeing this.
There is so much information, such as the theories that Celeste was going to leave him, tell someone that he was grooming her, theories that Celeste was pregnant, Discord chat logs where David says that they're expecting someone, expecting a kid, allegedly.
Theories that Celeste was sacrificed for fame.
Just a lot of theories ranging from wholly unrealistic to plausible.
And all the songs and lyrics that have been dissected and analyzed that netizens have used to support or deny those theories because all of his songs have been analyzed are going to be the next video, along with netizens being upset with celeste's family and why david hasn't been arrested yet.
All of that's going to be covered and i'm going to try to get that up for you asap.
So, with that being said, stay safe and i will see you in the next one.
