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Hello there. Hi. We have a really, really fun episode today.
I feel like we say that every week.
But oh my gosh, if you don't leave with a smile on your face after you listen to this next album.
whether you - I - I don't either.
Also, we just love our jobs, so it is a fun thing.
It's fun to get to do this.
Really fun. Mm -hmm.
I do, I love my job.
I feel so fortunate that I love my job too, And.
Oh yeah. My parents loved their jobs.
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And I do. What a gift.
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That's what makes her heart happy.
Yeah. My sister's a teacher.
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Yeah. It's a beautiful thing when that can happen.
All right. Well, listen, you all know that there are still so many people who were on The Office that we have not talked to, that we have wanted to have on the Podcast, and today we get to cross one of those names off our list.
—Yep! Today on Office Ladies 6 .0, Timothy Oliphant is in the studio with us.
You might know Timothy from his many movies and television roles including the hugely successful shows Deadwood and Justified.
Of course, you know I loved him in The Mandalorian and you know what?
I did not bring it up on purpose cuz I didn't want to be a total nerd in front of him.
I know, I was already a geek.
But I loved him in Mandalorian and you know on The Office he played Danny Cordray, the top salesman in the Scranton -Wilkes blueberry area.
He was the salesman that Michael Scott eventually hires to work at Dunder Mifflin.
Yes, the character of Danny Cordray was in two episodes that aired in the original broadcast.
The Sting and costume contest, and Angela, you bring up in our interview that he was also in a deleted scene for Michael's last Dundee's.
Yep, now I love the set -up to his character In the sting, Jim and Dwight are on a sales call to their client meeting at Frame Select and they see rival salesperson Danny Cordrée sitting in the lobby I thought we should hear it Dwight Crap Danny Cordrée is the worst Well by worst, I mean the best The
best salesman ever It works for Screamsing Paper over in Throup.
It steals marc clients from my Dunder Mifflin than anyone.
So the situation is the worst.
Also he slept with Pam.
— No, he didn't. — Tell him.
— Nothing happened.
We went on a couple of dates.
He never called me again.
— What? He never called you, I thought you said it's fizzled.
— That's fizzling. I mean, someone has to start the fizzle.
— Yeah. I thought you started it.
— No, I liked him. For a couple of days, four years ago.
No. You know I have a kid with you, right?
I just love this. There's so much information and history packed into these little couple of scenes.
I know, this was a really fun Jim and Pam runner.
We talked more about it, but it was so fun how it kept popping up.
Well, I just love that.
Jenna, in rewatching this episode, it was so funny to me how all the Dunder Miaflan employees react to meeting Dani.
so we just heard Jim and Dwight but I also thought you should hear when Michael first sees him and then the whole bullpen.
Sam, help me put these clips together.
Let's hear it. Oh, no, that's a male model.
Oh my god. Jan Sport backpacks.
10 or 15 years ago, you were a model for Jan Sport backpacks, were you not?
Yes. Wait, what's going on here?
I know it. I remember the one you were like, Hey, to Mr Danny Cordray, he is going to be joining us as our new traveling salesman.
Say hello to Danny.
OK, you know what? No.
Just that was a bleep.
That was probably standards and practices because Kelly says, you know, the F -word.
She does. And listen, we've shared this before, but the character name Danny Cordray was inspired by our very own Randy Cordray, and I just love that his name made it on the show.
I know. Well, we always love hearing from you all and several of you wrote in some great observations and comments about the character Danny Cordray and we wanted to share.
Yes! Starting with Ashley S.
from Cazeville, Utah who wrote in to say, I find it funny that Michael has a talking head referencing the killer in Scream 2.
One of the murderers is Timothy Oliphant.
That murder is now in the office.
Ashley, this cracked me up, you know I'm a horror movie fan, you know I know Scream 2, I held myself back from asking Timothy about Scream 2 in our interview, cause I didn't want to geek out too much.
Let's hear this clip of Michael talking about Scream 2.
I tried, I tried, I tried to talk to Toby and be his friend, but that's like trying to be friends with an evil snail I feel like I'm dying inside I feel like Nem Campbell and scream too she thinks she can go off to college and be happy and then the murderer comes back starts killing off all of her friends
learned a lot of lessons from that movie This is just one of them.
There's more. There's more lessons than Scream II.
Well, uh, Scream II was early in Timothy's career.
I mean, he is playing a college student.
He is so good in it.
He is such a great villain!
Like, he always often is playing kinda like the nicer guys.
The hero guy. But always with a little darkness.
It's interesting. We talked to him about it.
Good catch, Ashley.
I loved it. Well, we also got this fun catch from Carla F.
in Prospect Heights, Illinois.
She said her and her husband were watching Justified and they realized that Dave Keckner had a few episodes.
She said they loved that Timothy and Dave Keckner had a few episodes together, even though they didn't have any together on The Office, but they were both traveling salesmen.
They also found it ironic that their joint episodes in Justified both take place in Florida, which is where Todd Packer ends up at the end of The Office.
Oh my gosh! This is like a monk crossover, but it's a Justified The Office crossover.
I just started watching Justified?
It's really good. It's so good I have not gotten to Dave Keckner yet.
I haven't either. I just started watching it too.
Well everyone, thank you so much for writing in.
We used a lot of your questions in our interview with Timothy as well.
And you know, we're so excited to reunite with him and this really all came about Jenna because you ran into him last year.
Yes. We were at a mutual friend's birthday party and I asked him if he would come on the podcast.
He was so lovely. He said, of course.
We did this interview right before our holiday break and it was just such a great way to end the year.
It really was. He's so charming and he hung out with us for over an hour.
We talked to him about his time on the office and so many other things.
So let's take a short break.
And when we come back our interview with Timothy Oliphant.
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My goodness! Timothy, Olafon!
Hey, how's it going?
Oh my gosh, how cool to see you sitting across from us and you got a scar from there.
So you grew up in Modesto by the way.
You grew up in Modesto.
We got a fan question about that.
We asked people to write in and someone actually said Megan G.
from Albany, my husband and I lived in Modesto, California.
What does Timothy remember about growing up there?
Folks are really proud of him out there.
Oh, that's very kind.
Well, I mean — I mean, still, my mom lives in Modesto.
I still go to Modesto.
I was in Modesto just in October.
So, yeah. My favorite bread maker is in Modesto, Bonnie O 'Hara.
She has a home bakery, fresh breads and cookies and stuff.
Wait! That might be my — wait a minute.
What? Wait. Wait. Well, that can't be right.
Is there a name, Bonnie?
I'm forgetting a name, but the woman that used to live across from my street from my mother had made in her garage, she had a home bakery, and she was doing really well...
is that Bonnie? Bonnie was your neighbor, Bonnie O 'Hara, and...do we need a moment to Google?
No, I'm looking in my contacts.
I don't think it's her.
She's your favorite - Yeah, for bread -making for beginners and I bought her cookbook I started making bread thanks to her but she has got a whole business in her in her little home kitchen and she sells bread subscriptions.
Now first second there, first second there I don't think.
Bonnie if I do know you I'm really sorry if it's been for bread making.
I just finished a job in Finland, and the AD made the best bread.
Homemade? Homemade bread.
They're big on the bread there.
Very healthy, good breads in Finland.
I guess, Europe just has great bread in general?
If people say, like, oh, if you don't want gluten don't worry about it so much there in Europe.
Anyway, I don't understand it.
And as a rap Giffy, gave me the recipe.
Oh, you gave me a little notebook in a handwritten recipe.
Try to convert it from metric.
And we haven't made it yet, but that's the plan this holiday.
We're going to make the bread, auntie, auntie's bread.
I love that. First day, I'm a bread enthusiast.
Okay, Jenna used to bring in like her yeast, like in the bowl, right, Is that what it's called?
Yeah. You gave it a name.
Well, I would bring in my dough Angela ask her.
That's right. My starter - Your starter gets a name.
My starter's name was Goldie.
Did you not - What no?
How long have you two known each other?
Am I here to bring it together, bring it closer?
I didn't know your starter got a name.
Yes. It's named as - Is this a richer disconnect?
Goldie. Because you have to feed it every day and I said it's like taking care of a goldfish, so I named it Goldie.
How did you do that?
You know you're this close to having a second podcast.
You're gonna be my replace skull about bread.
You laugh. It could happen.
Oh, my god, for sure it could happen.
OK. Back to your career.
This is a show. You've built a Monster show here all based on one half hour comedy.
Yeah. Bread. It's bigger than The Office.
I mean, it's huge. People love The Office.
People really love bread.
I mean it's a big deal.
It's a big deal. I'm just saying.
I would bet if - What do you mean you're twice a week?
Most people - How many days a week are you over here?
One day. Are you wanting to run space?
continual test exactly for the bread podcast?
Come on. Timothy's going to be in here on Tuesdays, guys.
We'll bring you on.
We have a network now.
We do. We have a network.
You can have a bread podcast on our network If you want it.
You have a network?
We do. So, the OfficeJohnlaughs' network.
What the hell? God dammit, I've missmet my whole show business card.
Listen. Bread with Timothy.
It could happen. All right.
What's our next question?
Same song by bread.
By bread. You know that man.
Yes! There you go. Okay, Wait.
It writes itself. It does.
It really does. It's right there.
We were gonna ask you next, was, is like - I haven't said anything I remember about Modesto by the way.
Yeah, what is your favorite place to eat Modesto like what's your like I know, Archer City, Texas I go to Mearns for cheeseburger.
Oh, wow, you know, I I mean the places I've been going to Lately are not places.
I went to growing up.
I'm a desto I Mean Growing up when I think of like, where'd you go to eat when you were growing up?
I mean, we're like we went to Arby's and we went so, you know, like yeah taco bell tacos Because that kind of thing.
It was kind of a fast food joint.
There was an incredible, I think it's still there, Mexican joint on the way out to Oakdale, oh, I cannot remember it, god, I'm terrible.
But that would be like, that was great to go out there.
And I'm pretty sure it's still there.
Mexican food place on the way to Oakdale.
I don't, hell, I really drifted far from it.
Modesto's golden sun.
I really have. because we didn't really go out to dinner -tune.
I know. Like my memories of food in terms of, it's like going to get wind chills on Sunday morning, like getting doughnuts or something.
Oh, that's good though.
I don't remember foodie places.
There's a little bit of that now, because almost the whole country's got into foodie places.
Fancy foodies. Yeah, so yeah, now my childhood memories are just, you know, It was all about just roaming around.
Canals and orchards and all that.
That's the end of that story.
Right. Cake parties and the orchard, you know what I mean?
At the canal. That was the teenage years times.
Yeah, we had pasture parties when I moved back to the States, but I read that you were a swimmer.
Swam. I grew up next to, we grew up next door to a place which was still there called, it was at the time called the Modesto's Women Racket Club.
There's literally, we had an old farmhouse.
We had a field and a barn with horse chickens and stuff that, and we could just walk through that over to the racket club.
And so my brothers and I, we just were there all the time, just run around.
Was a walk to school neighborhood.
It looks sounded really good to me right now.
Yeah, so we all swam and played tough.
My brother and I, by the way, We're hosting a charity tomorrow, tennis charity.
My brother and I, we've never done it before, first annual, OLI, that's what we're calling it.
The OLI, we're raising money for this really great place called the Center for Reflective Communities, it deals with teen and young adult mental health.
And so if people want to go on there, they can hit the little plus sign and donate and where it says subject, you can put in our thing, Play for Good, the OLI, Play for Good and donate money.
And God bless you, cause they do wonderful work for Lord knows the young people need some help these days.
Well, we'll share that, we'll put it in our Instagram stories with a swipe up and I'll show up with my racket.
Let's go! Okay. Bring it we're playing a dingles.
I love dingles. Okay, we're playing dingles.
And we've got like, I think there's like 16 or 17 players that are all coming and donating like 500 bucks to play.
and they're like 16, 17 pros.
Oh gosh, so maybe maybe - But still come out and hit some balls, you can hit with some bros.
It's gonna be super fun.
Wait, are you are you playing?
I'm playing. Dingle's is so fun.
You can come out and play a little bit hit with one of those, some of the pros And you can only say, okay.
It's too much. I don't want to play anymore and just hang out and then there's alcohol.
Great. Dingle's is you have to get cross court.
Yeah. So like I have to hit cross court and then the person next to me hits cross court.
Yeah. And then the first person that misses there.
You can only do cross -court and when you miss you yell dingles and then the other ball That's active becomes a free ball for the whole court that's right, but what happens to me is the minute someone yells dingles, I like freeze I've freeze And then the ball goes Maurice.
Yeah Cuz like imagine someone next to you yelling dingles really loud intervention Wouldn't that make you it would?
Yeah. Yeah. It did right now.
I could see it on her face.
I froze I stopped talking as soon as you guys started saying dinghos, I haven't set a work.
We're doing it tomorrow Yeah.
Okay. Okay now, let's see.
Okay back to the office Had you seen the show before?
Were you a fan of it?
Did you know anyone?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'd seen both versions Did I know anyone I knew Rain?
Oh, yeah. Rain Wilson when I first started acting in New York he was my understudy in a play.
What was the play? Pretty sure that's true.
It was called The Monogamous at Playwright Horizons.
By the way, I'm going to go see Raynes play...
Waiting for Godot. Saturday, closing night.
I'm going to go see Waiting For Godot on Saturday.
I saw it, he's great in it.
Yeah, I can't wait.
He's really good. I have a question from a fan.
Let's go. It's Amit R.
from Edmonton, Alberta.
who wants to know on the office, what was hardest to get used to, the improvising in scenes or learning to see the camera as a separate character?
Take us back. You're very great.
Like right out of the gate at like clocking the camera, because some people that threw them off.
But we watched you look at the camera.
I appreciate hearing that.
I was about to answer that question with a question, which was I don't remember, did I look at the camera?
Yes. It's all very foggy to me than what I remember ...
my experience. I don't remember ...
You do, you put the camera.
Am I on one episode or multiple episodes?
You're on two episodes!
I'm on two episodes.
Two, and then you have a cameo and ...
I hope that says it's unpretentious.
I just don't remember.
No, no, it's fine. You're in two episodes and then you have a little cameo for Michael's Last Dundee's where Michael sends the camera crew because Danny Cordray wins Hottest in the Office and it's Superfan episodes too, but yeah, so you do win - I'm in a deleted scene in another episode.
So you're in two episodes, and then you got deleted from a third, but you'll probably be added back.
Oh, and what's that scene?
You've won hottest in that.
But I didn't show up for that.
You didn't. Wow. Oh, they put me on the screen?
Michael has a TV screen, and your character says, is, yeah, I said I couldn't be there but Michael sent out a camera crew to my house and - Oh, so I shot?
And I shot back. You shot that?
Yes, you talk, it's you.
You did it. I did, I don't remember that.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
Well, do you remember?
I do remember getting a Dundee though and they sent it to my house.
It was pretty great.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I got the little trophy.
Yeah. So do you still have it that says ranger's in the office?
I don't know. Oh. That would be great to have for yourself.
Yeah. Yes. I have, I have two and this will go next to it, greatest world's best podcast guest.
Yay, our coffee mug.
I have two world's greatest dads.
I've won it twice. Oh.
That's so cute. Now, I've been a father for 25 years, but I've only won it— I've only got it twice.
And you have three children.
I have three children.
I have only two awarded you this award.
and, by the way, that's a good question.
Where is it the same kid?
I don't know, I just like that for some reason I have two of them.
So, somewhere along the line, they either forgot they gave me one, or they're like, oh, let's get it to them again.
Yeah, he really likes that.
Let's give him another one.
And I don't know if I am the world's greatest dad because I don't remember who gave it to me or why or when, I just know I have two.
What? And I've always liked having the two side by side.
And I think for a second, the Dundee might've been there.
I'm a bit of a minimalist at the house, so I don't tend to keep a lot of stuff.
—That's good. —That's smart.
—Oh, there you go. I mean, I… —Turn that frown around.
So, I don't remember looking at the camera bits.
But it sounds like it went up.
—You did it really well.
—That's great. OK, cool.
I don't remember anything being difficult about the show, other than, I do remember laughing.
I'm sure I screwed up what had been a really good scene, because with Corel where I was, I just couldn't stop laughing because it was so intense and funny.
And I...there's a little bit of disappointment still there that I could not keep a straight face.
Is it when you're trying to leave the building?
Yes, because it's in the bloopers.
Yeah, so at least it's got a life somewhere because he's incredible.
Yeah. And he's fully committed.
And I'm quite certain, I haven't seen it in a long, you know, but that I'm the one busting up more than he is.
I'm sure I'm busting up and then that's making him then laugh.
But he was really impressive, yeah.
Oh, yeah, he doesn't break.
Yeah. It's he's like a statue.
It's really hard to make him laugh.
He was very committed.
I have fond memories of my experience.
Just in general, I just remember enjoying the whole thing.
You guys were all wonderful pros.
Great vibe. You'd already been on the air for a while.
Yeah. It was season seven, but it was always so fun when someone new came in because that new energy that it would bring to the set.
Sure. I loved it so much.
I re -watched it. The fact that Danny Cordray thanks Pam as a dork.
That's why do you remember storyline where you got me back to me now, so we had gone on a couple of dates Yes us away to two dates two dates, and it was supposed to be a third but then you didn't call me back and but you try to tell Jim that it was that I didn't call you back and So I say no no no And
then we will not leave you alone and we're like, there's a great scene where he's like, man why didn't you call her back?
And you're like, for real?
You wanna know why didn't call your wife back for a date like five years ago?
And you eventually admit that it's because you thought I was a little dorky.
I do remember that.
And it was, it's so fun.
What's so cute too.
That's so wonderful.
It's such a great scene.
And when you finally admit it, That Bamb's a little dorky.
I watched it with my son who's 16 and he turned to me and he goes is this is so cringy." Well, I'm dressed as olive oil.
I am in a full Halloween costume.
And so, I am, like, I'm being pretty dorky!
And she goes, when you call her dorky, she goes, oh, okay.
Excuse me! And, like, it's so funny.
Do you remember that, too?
Yeah. That is so fun.
I love that story line so much.
I wanna ask you about The Sting.
That's the first episode where you show up and you're this salesman and Michael is going to try to figure out, why are you so good, you're this rival salesperson?
They set up that fake office.
Yeah. Then Meredith is an Oscar come in?
Meredith, wait her name is something Van Helsing.
I mean, I do remember now, a lot of this is coming back to me now, but I do remember the sting.
Remember that scene, being in the office and and her acting like a like she's super rich and in charge or something yeah yeah and people are coming in and out yes because she starts to really hit on you and so they're like ah she's gonna ruin it sent in Oscar and then Oscar comes in and she's literally
like he's here to clean he speaks no English and then they send in Ryan the temple and she's like that's Esteban he does he does floors like so she keeps like Thorting their plans.
Yes. It's really fun.
It is a show, how long ago is it?
It's been my god, how long ago, now.
I mean, we probably shot that in 2010.
Yeah. I mean, 15 years ago.
the occasional like Hey, were you in the office?
Yeah that happens I mean that's so wild because you have such a huge larger than life other characters it's a huge and also you get it from like teenagers and stuff yeah it's amazing show that just keeps on giving yes how cool to be honest you guys we're part of something that culturally relevant and huge
we had no idea at the time kind of amazing yeah It was pretty wild.
I mean, I don't have those kinds of problems, you guys must get that craziness.
People must go, can you go to the airport?
What's it like when you go to the airport?
I can go a lot of places.
I really fly under the radar and I always have, I don't know if it's some sort of special gift or something?
I don't know. But I was once rear -ended by the paparazzi who were chasing Christina Ricci.
And I had to get out of my car and like exchange information with them and they never took my photo.
Like that's like how invisible I am to that world.
Well I would challenge you to fly southwest to Austin and walk through that airport because you're going to get recognized a lot.
I think I can do it.
I'll take that challenge.
Let's go. Update on the short office ladies on the road.
going to film one. Guys, we're going to film one.
I get recognized a ton at airports.
Southwest terminal, in Austin.
She'll get recognized...
It's in the budget.
We could go talk to people about Bread and Austin.
I invited myself on the trip by the way.
You're on our spinoff show Office of the Ladies on the Road.
Yeah, obviously it's on the Road.
Come on. That's a fun show.
You are a man on the street as well.
And then we have Bread of the Week.
Bread of the Week. Southwest Austin...
and we're building a network, show by show right now.
I mean, you guys have a network, this is how we...
Will you please be in our next think tank meeting, because we have 44 episodes we have to fill.
I like that they've been already think tank meetings.
Yes. We've got one coming up in January.
They don't cut in often.
Well, it's a holiday, so you're shutting it down.
In January you got the think tank.
We're taking some time, yeah, we're gonna think tank it.
Okay. In the episode costume contest, Michael says, you remind him of someone and Kelly says is it Josh DuMele?
Fan question from Sheila V in Texas.
Do you often get confused for Josh DuMele?
Follow up. I heard he was on your Christmas card once.
Yes, so I've I've told this story before so forgive me for it.
So, yes, obviously I do But yeah, he was in my he Took a picture with we were at an event together.
We'd never met But as soon as we saw each other, started laughing.
And while we were talking, one of the dodgers, we were at a Dodgers event and they, one of the guys asked him if he was gonna be in any more hit -man movies, which is a movie I did.
And he asked Josh in front of me.
And it was really great.
I watched him get mistaken for me in front of me.
It was just wonderful.
And then I, it occurred to me, I said, you know what, I got my whole family here.
Would you? And he knew right away, he was like, I'm in.
You got it. So great.
So he took a picture with my wife and three kids and we sent it out as the holiday Christmas card.
That's so awesome. My mom had it on the fridge and had noticed it.
Had noticed, didn't clock it.
My brother called me, said dude, mom had no idea.
I had to point it out to her and she said I thought he looked taller.
It's a good story. It's a great story.
So yeah, me and Joshua Forever Linked, lovely guy who's a great sport about it.
Kind of funny. It's funny.
You guys have one of those?
Yeah. I've got a couple.
Yeah. Yeah. I would get, Amy Adams and Ayla Fisher.
Okay. And have you spoken to them about it?
Yeah. Because you assume they also ...
Yes. Or maybe she says sometimes the paparazzis don't pay attention to me because they think I'm you.
They're like, go ahead.
Kenneth? Sometimes when I'm being ignored.
I realize oh you guys think I'm Physics?
You think I'm appropriate.
Yeah. Exactly. No one time at a party, Amy and I were both at the party and the guy I was with at the time, he came up to me and he's like, oh my god, I'm so embarrassed.
I just went up and I put my arm around Amy Adams.
I thought it was you.
I thought it was you, and I was like, nope, I'm over here, and then she came up and she was like, I met your date!
It was so great to meet him!
So we've talked about it a little bit, but it's like I kinda see it, but.
And did you also say MPS, don't put your arm around me in public?
I mean we're not together any more.
See. I don't know. Yeah.
Because he overstepped with somebody else.
Do you get one? I've gotten before a shorter version of Laura Dern, like, the short version.
She's really tall So I don't know, I don't know what do you do.
But you don't have the doppelganger showbiz doppelganger out there that you know you're being mistaken for because that's where we have the..." You know, I'll get giggles behind a counter and then I realize they don't know who I am.
They think I'm him.
No, no, although I really want to tell Laura during that someday, that like, hey, I'm your short version.
You should play her short sister in something.
Well, I want to ask you a little bit about justified.
Yes, I have only just started Are you watching the series but I am loving it?
Thank you. I miss you.
Me to. My husband loved it and then he had me start watching it and I love it.
Thank you. Do you still have the hat?
Never kept it. What?
You didn't keep your hat?
You didn't. So keep that in mind with the Dundee right?
I didn't keep the hat.
That is shocking to me.
What about from Deadwood?
Do you have your star?
No, it didn't keep anything.
No, do you take anything from sets?
So, yes, in that, like, a pair of jeans or anything that's practical.
And you're like, And you're like, Ooh, I like the fit of these.
I'm gonna wear these, oh, these are my publicly sweet boots.
No, I never take anything sentimental, I take things that are like, oh, I could use some socks.
No, my kids will make fun of me, like, if I buy something, they'll be like, oh, dad bought a shirt.
Because a lot of times, I will just be wearing things that have, like, my character name It either says like, you know, when they put inside either says hero or it says like...
You know, Watch Island?
Yeah, I'll have like a pair of jeans and inside it just says Raelyn or hero.
Yeah, I'll have that.
You know what... T -shirts?
Anything that's yeah, those I'm.
Take all that. I always tell the cost, you know the customer, I would say look, there's gonna be some things missing so I just, I hope it's in the budget.
It's my clothes, my wardrobe.
But I don't. I've never taken...
That's how you shop.
Yeah. And I will say – because I always think to myself, what am I going to do with the hat, I mean, it's just going to sit there somewhere and take up space.
But – You don't – you're minimal at home.
We've learned this.
I'm a bit of a minimalist.
I'm a bit of the – when I first heard about that Maria Kondo, I was like, oh, yeah, I got it.
I was like, I do it already.
But she added the little thank you for your service.
You ever heard of that little quote that she does?
As you throw it away?
As you throw it away?
Very different. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. I love that, I've added that.
You passed it on, thank you for your service.
Oh, a big fan. Thank you for your time here.
A big fan of that. But, I did keep a hat from the show, we did a thing, it's a spoiler, but we did a thing where there was a guy, a villain with a hat towards the very end of this, Oh.
the original show's ending.
And I wore this hat, I took the dead guy's hat because he shot my hat.
We had a whole story I do.
Anyway, I took that hat and then had it refitted so that I could just wear like a free hat.
Yeah. It was a little bit along that practical thing.
I was like, I'd love to get a free hat out of this, but I don't want to want that hat, the D hat.
I got another hat. You wouldn't recognize it as the hat from the show because you just have it re -blocked.
I kind of wish I did that with the Raylan hat.
Yeah, yeah. I just took it and then just had it, But I forget, you can just have a hat re -blade locked and just make it into not even recognizable.
And that'd be a fun fact to say, yeah, this is a Rayland hat.
Yeah. Yeah. But I just like how it looks.
Yeah just changed it around.
I have a little story for us.
Well, two things. One, I have a question from Julio in Clinton, New Jersey.
Julio says, which office character would best survive the justified universe?
I'm going with Creed.
Okay. I think he is in that world.
He's sort of a criminal, but also sort of not.
He's questionable. I feel like a marshal would be needed to track him in some way.
Yeah. That all would've been great because everyone on your show is so good at comedy, but not acknowledging the comedy without pointing it out, which is kind of what we were doing a little bit, like.
Very much. Nothing more fun than taking someone who's like known for a sitcom and putting them in like a cool gritty comedic performance on our show.
That was always my favorite thing.
I always loved that when I watch a show to see someone from a world that's like totally different.
I think your character was that on The Office, too, for a lot of people.
That was really cool.
Yeah, because your time on The Office was after Deadwood, but before Justified.
So. Oh, take your word for it!
It was. So, if you had watched Deadwood - It was all a bit of a blur.
Yeah as a deadwood fan which I was You know We had that was a thing that we did on the show a lot like we had a lot of folks who had been on The Sting wait, is that the name of the show?
No the wire was gonna save them For professional Of 2024 You had Bradford Newman who else did you have from this thing they're all Gleeson He was in it?
They were great on the show.
I forgot Jack Egliesen was in The Sting.
Have you watched The Sting in a while?
I have. Because it holds up and it's fantastic.
I have. It's one of my favorite movies.
I keep a list of things and I want to say I watched it like a year or two ago.
Same. I haven't seen it in a while.
Really solid. All right.
So good. Just wonderful performances.
I mean, just a... That ending.
You love everybody when they're all closing up shop, giving them a little...
That on the nose? Now I need to rewatch it.
It's so wonderful. I found a little something on YouTube that I want to talk to you about.
Okay. I'm leaning in.
Everybody's leaning in.
You should have teased that.
By the way, put that in the front of the show.
I found a little thing on YouTube, I wanna ask you about, but we'll get to that later, and then people will really stick around.
Stay tuned. I do you think we've lost them?
What do you say? By the way let's circle back to that thing you were saying on YouTube.
Yes. See what I did there?
Thank you. Thank you.
You just do this for us.
We have some ads for you later too.
Oh I'd love to sit in on the ads.
Oh, you're so funny when you read ads on Conan.
I love it! Oh thank you.
That made me laugh so hard.
I read ads on Conan.
That's really funny.
Okay, YouTube. Here we go.
It was April, 2015.
Okay. I'm right there.
You were a guest on Conan O 'Brien.
Justified last episode was that night.
there was going to be a party.
You bring onto Conan a mason jar of whiskey from Kentucky.
And you, and Conan, and Andy all drink whiskey during the interview.
I was the second guest that night.
And I came out and you poured me a whiskey.
I was like, surely this isn't real whiskey Yeah.
we are doing come one.
And I took a big slug of it.
Yeah, I remember. And I was like, oh wow.
So, that is the first time I've ever drank on television.
And I re -watched the interview.
You totally are great.
You first of all that you guys were sipping.
And then I come out I take my slug of whiskey and I am so like wackadoodle.
No, I'm out. – No, you're being tough on yourself.
– No. It was really good whiskey.
And I totally thought it was a bit, and I didn't think it was actual whiskey.
– Yeah, we commit it.
We commit. – You guys are very committed.
– Yeah. – Timothy, we shared with our listeners that you and I recently connected at our mutual friend's birthday party, and I got to meet your wife of 30 years.
– Yep. Don't mess me up.
30 -something, I think.
Go ahead. She is amazing.
Thank you. I'm alive.
Thank you, but that's nice of you to say.
I agree. We got a fan question from KimBT in Chicago, who said, the sexiest thing about you is your long relationship with your wife.
Would you be willing to tell us you're meet -cute?
Oh. We're separating.
No! You are not. You are not.
I have to assume that when you met her, you knew immediately that you needed to marry this person.
She is one of the most phenomenal human beings I have ever met, one of the strongest, best first impressions a human has ever made on me.
Your wife is like, Alexis is, like, a gem of a human being.
That's lovely to hear.
I will pass that on to her.
I mean, how did you do it?
Because she's never seen anything I've ever been in.
But that's kind of true, isn't it?
What part? That she doesn't, like, really engage in the whole like, Hollywood thing?
No, no. We met in college and uh - Where did you go to college?
We went to USC. Okay.
junior year of college yeah we were 20 and we were in a class oceanography.
Oh that's a cool class.
It was like a science you know requirement and um I was swimming at SC, all the athletes basically, we had you know the athletes got to council, they all said you're taking oceanography like that's your science and it's super fun class.
That's really popular.
This is guy Pipkin a professor there.
It was a fun class anyway.
Right. Is it like the easy science class?
I think that was the idea.
Like all the athletes, where like, you should take oceanography because that'll satisfy your science and it's kind of a big and easy class.
And it's popular. They probably also just liked all the athletes taking the one class.
Yeah. Because we're all getting the same tutor.
We're all being tutored to get through it.
We had a class like that they called Shaken Bake because it was earthquakes and natural disasters.
Oh. And all the athletes were in it.
There you go. So that's your Shaken Bake.
Yeah. Oceanos, and you got a field trip to - Catalina Island?
To Catalina. So you'd go out on the boat and go out there and go swimming, snorkel, in Catalina.
Cause Echoing got a oceanography institute out there.
Oh that's cool. Yeah.
So she was in the class?
She was in the class she used to come in late, what are the last people to come in?
So I'd always see her coming in and to your point, I began referring to her as my girlfriend.
and we'd never met and but I was like, that's my girlfriend, I need to save her a spot because she comes in late and she'll have to come up sitting next to me.
So yeah that's, we had met taking oceanography class we had friends in common.
Yeah, we first met I introduced myself to her after class.
That's so cute. And the rest mystery.
Yeah. All right, you've been so generous with your time.
Oh, it's kind of you.
The last thing that we have— It's been a pleasure.
I appreciate the invitation.
Oh, thank you. The last thing we do on the show is Season 5 of Office Ladies.
The last thing we do on the show are our call sheet questions.
These are questions that we would ask members of our cast and crew, and then we would put their little answers on— The back of the call sheet.
Yeah, we'd put their answers on the back of our call sheets.
We didn't do this. The production office did it, but it was such an offering on the side of the office, and it's how people, you learned a little bit about the cast or crew.
It was a lovely show.
I know, it's not wonderful.
So you guys are dominating the world with your show, and just making all this, and also with the lovely wonderful atmosphere and feel good.
The camaraderie. It was like a family, really.
Yeah. Yeah. So you want to kick it off, lady?
Sure. Okay. First question is, what was your first job?
It could be your first paid acting job or maybe your first job in general.
As far as I can remember, I think we would be accepting two answers, either life guarding or swim coaching.
I think I coach, yes, those were probably the two jobs I kind of did when When I was growing up I used to give swim lessons.
Because I was a swimmer and then - Alright, so we're going to go with life guarding.
Life guarding, a life guarding.
Alright, doing you play a musical instrument?
I play guitar. Not well but I play it.
I played it a couple times for a movie, I never got into it for a couple different jobs, but learned it well enough for the job.
and then just a few years ago, either pandemic or strike, I mean, just not long ago, my daughter who's a very good singer songwriter.
She was like, dad, you should play guitar with me.
So I started playing guitar with her and that got me into it.
That is so sweet. She's, I owe her some thanks.
Next question, what's a place that you've been to that you absolutely loved?
Oh, well I love the Carmel, the sort of northern California.
Carmel's always been a very, they can put as many bad art galleries and cutesy, but I still, I love it.
I don't care how many, they can, that's how much great that place is.
They can shtove, they've shtove so much bad art in that little community.
And I'm still like, yeah, that's great.
I love it, can't ruin it.
I just love that coast and that is always, I've always had a soft spot for it.
And we used to go there as kids, not so, not far from Modesto.
And my wife and I used to go.
We honeymooned there, I love that area.
All right. I've got the next one.
What are you like to do on the weekends?
These days? Sure. Yeah.
So we, I swim the early Saturday morning.
It was like the routine.
I swim early Saturdays.
You still swim. You still swim.
OK. I've gotten way back into, I don't know why.
It's like a thing. My wife dragged me.
I've always swam, but a few years ago, I was working in Tribeca with Alex Winter in New York, and my wife is like, oh, we found a pool.
I usually do. And then there was a Master's program there.
And she's like, let's do Master's, you know?
You kind of like, are with a group, and there's a coach.
And I was like, I don't wanna do this.
I wanna do this. Come on.
And then I did it. And I love it.
I'm like, yeah. So now, yeah, swim over it.
So swim usually Saturday mornings.
Lately, we have, my wife and I share an art studio with our son.
If we're really a mellow weekend, we'll go to, we like a Saturday in the art studio.
It's kinda great. I mean, if we're just hanging in town, dog walks.
Our kids are, we're empty nesters.
So it's just chill time.
We do whatever. We're done with the like taking kids to a tennis tournament or whatever.
Yeah which is kind of nice.
That's sounds really chill.
May play tennis over the weekend.
I play with my kid, I play with my brother.
Yes, weekends are pretty chill.
Sunday more like just Sunday tend to be stuck around the house.
Yeah, like chore day, kind of.
Chors. Like, do you have a Sunday chore.
Angel Amishow business.
I grew up doing so many chores.
You were a chore person growing up.
Yeah, we had major chores, major chores.
My buddies were like, dude, I just got to do my chores and then I'm free.
And they were like ugh.
Yeah. And now my kids, I don't think they know.
They'd be like chore, what is that?
Look it up in the dictionary.
I know. I know. What's a chore?
We decided to have chore day.
And we told our kids they have to load the dishwasher.
What a s***, yes. Oh my god you know my chores weren't growing up.
Load the dishwasher.
Well listen, I'm in Los Angeles.
That's a routine, that's not a chore.
Yes, thank you. That's original.
And there are 14. But let me tell you, you have..
Wait! That's still...
How do you mean that?
But there are 14. But like, why...
Like, we're in Los Angeles, it's not like I...
Listen, in Archer City, Texas chores were like, go you.
I had friends that had to milk the cows, you know?
They had to go collect eggs, we had to clean out ponds, we had to like, mow lawns and we had to like prune and weed.
And like... We had like chores.
There was like, there was wheelbarrow involved.
Anyway... We had a wheelbarrow.
was something that took gasoline.
Yes, I wrote with my dad where he bailed hay.
T's like chopping. We had like, you know, there was something involved that you might not get… There might be blisters.
You know, I'm not saying - There was a shed.
We had to go out to the shed.
Okay, fine. Keeping them grounded.
Let's hear it. Love the dishwasher.
I want to tell you, it was a ******* show.
When I opened the dishwasher, I was like, what the hell happened in here?
Everything was just thrown in there.
I do remember the moments with my kids and that when they were pretty old and I'm like Could you just sweep this up and and you know what and then you know and I started watching I'm not even gonna name which one because pretty much all of them had this moment where I was watching them sweep and I'm
like Who taught you to sweep?
What is that? What?
What'd you learn that and I realize I've failed It's my fault I mean I can't blame them for not knowing how to sweep Clearly, that's something you have to kind of, at some point… Someone has to show you.
Oh my God. It was so embarrassing.
I'm like, that's not how you sweep.
Like, how is that? I thought that was just something you knew.
No. No, it's not natural.
I have a new thing that I just implemented with my kids, I want to get your take on it.
All right. Let's hear it.
So, I heard this on a podcast which, when I told my kids that, they were like, oh, Oh, yeah.
Mom heard a podcast.
Mom and her podcast.
Mom and her ideas. So the thought behind it is rather than make them a chore list that they have to do, you teach them how to notice what needs to be done and do it.
Because the mental labor of making the list and saying what has to be done, like that's half the chore.
so what you're wanting to do is like raise people who can see with their own eyes what needs to be done.
So I have this thing, where I - This is a podcast called pipe dreams.
pipe dreams for parents - pipe dream for parents.
and next on the office ladies network.
yes, pipe dreams for parents who don't live practically.
so here's what I did this - This kind of thing you - I said I - this feels like this is like right next to whole foods.
It's like where you go down the aisle in Whole Foods and there's just stuff in there that's supposed to do things.
It'd be like how long is that even possible?
But then that doesn't work.
We all just lost our minds as soon as we walked in this place.
I set a timer for 15 minutes.
And they have to notice.
For 15 minutes they have to walk around.
And notice. See what needs to be done and do it.
How's that working?
Wait and then they're done after 15 minutes.
Yeah. This is making my dishwasher thing look hardcore.
I got to say I mean I hope they turn out I do.
You know that and by the way I feel the same about my my kids are already in their 20's so I have a pretty good idea but that seems crazy compared to how now I mean come I'm not saying what my because you know I got I think there's some areas they kind of screwed up but they just said like this is what needs
to go be done That's hilarious.
Ph Hung, 15 minutes.
Walk around, notice..I mean the gag there is they take 12, 13 minutes and notice something and then they're like, they only got two minutes to do it.
Like got it. Still looking around.
Still look around. I got 15.
I've noticed a couple of things, but I want to keep kind of poking.
There might be something better.
It's amazing. I thought we got, I think we hit our stride somewhere where we realized if we just wrote the routines, that was the easiest way.
Like write it on the Board, your sort of tasks.
Is what you're doing Monday, is what you're doing Tuesday, it's what you're doing Wednesday.
Just these are the tasks.
A little bit. Because otherwise you are constantly saying, hey, I need you to, could you just go do this?
Could you go? And they're like, oh my God, you're just going to throw that on me whenever.
So, it was more like.
Read the Board. Here's the Board.
These are the things that are going to be done.
This is you know, this is this is yours.
This is your sisters.
This is whatever. Yeah And it was it's it is Ellie.
It's not Modesto life So it's not like they're out mowing what I mean no no we were we were like work You know we had like I pulled weeds I had a dog poop Hello You know, yeah, I mean I cleaned the toilets.
I was bathrooms. That was my job in my house growing up Yeah.
I think just three boys and we were just out in the yard working.
We had daily chores, and then weekends were like...
Yeah. All hands all day.
Pig chore day. My memory is a few hours before I was free to go hang out.
Yeah. It was always my buddies making plans and then they're like, you'll join us around noon 1 o 'clock when you're done.
I remember going over the canal to open up, If you had to let the water into the field, and water the fields.
Those were real chores.
We had real chores, yeah.
Did you take 15 minutes to look around?
15 minutes, let's take 15 minutes to look around.
Just see what needed to be done.
I think in theory, this is a really good thing though.
It's amazing. All right, out final question.
And we're going to let you go.
OK. What is your favorite midnight snack?
Oh, I'm going to go with I guess I guess I'd go with like peanut butter?
Oh, yeah, lately, probably peanut butter, like peanut butter.
If there's like. Just straight up with a spoon.
Well, god, we have gotten to this place where we don't have a lot of, back in the day I'd be like ice cream.
But now, I'm like I don't really do that anymore.
Isn't that sad? You get to a certain age, you have memories of our midnight snacks.
I'm like, no. No, I remember I used to eat a pint of ice cream!
Now it's like, what?!
which were disgusting.
What's wrong with you?
You gotta get up and swim.
So, now, if I think right now at the house, the only thing that we have that I will definitely reach for is I bought a bunch of, I was in Finland working.
I bought so much good licorice home.
So, I reached for the licorice but when that's gone, that's it, I'm screwed.
I'm just like, well, maybe some peanut butter and honey.
I mean really, my midnight snack is probably just like bourbon.
That's my midnight snack It's just, it's just the liquor cabinet.
With Turbo electrification on the rocks.
Here you go. Thank you.
Thank you so much. This is a pleasure ladies, if I can call you other than that.
You can call us ladies.
It's been a pleasure.
Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
Well, we're going to get your dates that you can travel so when we go on the road.
Yeah. Thank you Timothy.
It was my pleasure.
I mean, how fun. He is so funny.
I know. And Angie, you actually ended up going to his tennis charity event.
I did. You know, after the interview, we were talking a little bit before he left and he was like, I'm serious.
If you want to play, you should come.
He got my phone number.
And on my drive home he called me.
And he was like, hey, I'm about to text you all the info.
I was like okay. It was the next day and lady.
I wore my songs of Scranton t -shirt to represent the office ladies team.
I was paired up with Timothy's sister -in -law, Robin, and I played with this great group of gals.
And I met a lot of his family.
It was very much a family affair, plus there were some fantastic tennis players, like jaw -dropping amazing tennis and some familiar faces like Joel McHale.
Yes, uh -huh. I just want you guys all to know that Joel has a really good cross -court forehand, although—and Joel, I have given him crap about this.
He did get schooled the court.
Oh one or Two times okay but that's okay.
There was these two displayers were really good I was not in the like super good I was in like the medium court is that what they call it super good medium good not so good.
Haha, that is not how they did they had if you want to know they had like 4 .5 and fours and 3 .5 and I was on the 3 .5 Court.
Okay. And threes but I I was, yeah, so 3 .5 is good, lady.
It was my GPA in college, so that's very good.
It served me well there.
But it was a really fun day, and thank you, Timothy, for including me and Robin, for introducing me to your tennis gals.
And it was just a lot of great people coming together for a good cause.
I will share in our stories, but like Timothy said in his interview, all the proceeds went to Center for Reflective Communities and I'll put a swipe up so you can learn more about it.
Well, Angela, another follow -up that we should give is that Timothy did go and see Raines production the closing night of Waiting 4 Godot and loved it.
Loved it. Took his mom.
Texted us to update us, which I thought was so nice.
Hey ladies, by the way.
We loved it. Loved the play.
Well, a big thank you to Timothy for coming in the studio to talk with us.
We hope you enjoyed this episode.
And thank you to everyone who sent in questions.
We just love hearing from you.
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