Everybody, it's Tuesday, November 4th, 2025.
Welcome to the Giant Bombcast presented by Deku Deals.
I'm your host, Jan O'Shoa.
Joining me, co-captain of the ship.
He loves deals and educating me on how to spend my money properly.
Jeff Grubb.
I'm always here for you, Jan, when it comes to that.
I like how you asked everything was a question.
November 4th?
I'm Jeff Grubb.
Exactly.
I'm just reading the teleprompter as it goes.
Speaking about the teleprompter, it is scrolling just like he is scrolling through the river Styx.
I don't know why I associate him with death, but I think he likes it.
Jeff Bacalar.
I'm happy to wear that crown.
How are you, Jan?
It is very heavy.
Don't you know it?
It does nothing but damage to my posture.
How goes it, pal?
Backlar, what's the heaviest hat you have?
That's a great question.
Probably a helmet.
A helmet.
Is a helmet a hat?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Helmets are hats.
You heard it here first.
Helmets, hats.
There you go.
Oh, thanks.
I think if it's like a full, if it goes over your face, it's not a hat.
If it just covers the top of your head, then the helmet is a hat.
Well, I mean, they have the helmet.
Yeah.
They have like those half helmets, right?
Or like a motorcycle.
Yeah. yeah that's motorcycle a motorcycle helmet can't be a hat we can't but that can't be a hat right what about the half kinds well not like the full like well like right the half kinds if they were with a little spike on the top yeah yeah oh dear we've we've uncovered a thing here folks we here's uh our expose coming out uh straight after the bombathon we're pivoting we're no longer talking about games we're talking about helmets and hats But we all need to put a helmet on because we got the bad boy of games media.
You got to put on protection when you're around him, because he's knocking noggins all over the place and nothing else.
I swear to God.
Mike Minotti.
Yeah, wear your protection or I'll hurt you.
That's what we're doing there, right?
Yes, yes.
Wear a condom or I'll kill you.
We talked about you being scarier, didn't we?
Didn't we talk about you trying to be scarier, Mike?
That's out.
I thought that was scary.
I just threatened to beat someone up.
I find that comforting, because if Mike Minotti is going to beat someone up on my behalf, I'm like, oh yeah, I got him.
I think Mike is the first.
It's weird because Mike, you look a lot like Rick Steiner and yet your disposition is nothing like Bark Bark Wolfman, Rick Steiner.
Yeah, maybe I should...
Maybe we should open a Shoney's and I'll just kind of naturally become hardened, right?
Yeah, I think that's what happens.
That's how they became so tough is they bought a Shoney's after their wrestling career.
Go ahead, Jen.
Go ahead.
First, I just want to reiterate we were brought to you today by DekuDeals.com.
Head over to DekuDeals.com slash John Baum.
Go ahead and save yourself some money, some shmoney over there.
Also, you can make a fun list.
And I'm not trying to incentivize y'all, but You are going you have the ability to not only fill out a quiz to see which one of us you are most similar to.
You can check out a bunch of lists we made.
I guess you can also vote for a specific game that we will play on a UPF this month of November.
Front runner right now, Just Dance.
Six?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
How can we even do that?
I don't know.
You just dance.
Oh, boy.
I thought they outlawed Waggle, so I don't know.
Are those games even still coming out?
Probably not.
I think it's all kind of pretend.
I mean at least when my nieces and nephews play it.
They kind of just play the YouTube videos and dance along.
Really,
That's all it is.
I got beef, and I've had this beef simmering in the background, and...
Mike you, you bring it up because you're the bad boy of games media.
Sure, I think I also want to dip my toes into being a bad boy.
A couple paxes ago, dear friend of the site, Mary Kish, sitting next to her, a gentleman walks by.
He's wearing a leather vest.
I look at Mary and I ask hey, you think I could pull that off?
She almost does a spit take, looks him in the eyes, is like no you, mr Rogers, coated motherfucker, you can't wear a leather vest.
Go put on a cardigan or something.
So, I don't know.
What?
You're supposed to be on my side.
We are terrified of Mary.
So, no.
Can't be on your side.
Yeah, I'm not going to go against Mary.
Are you insane?
Mary knows what's best for us.
Come on.
I do whatever she tells me.
Yeah, it's fine.
Jeff, how come one of your likes on the Deck You Deal page is fighting games?
I mean, I think you like fighting games, but I don't know if I... associate that heavily with you.
Which chef are you talking to?
You.
I don't remember putting fighting games down.
Something got lost there.
Are you calling Deku Deals a liar?
No, because I do like, the reality is I just like about every kind of video game.
So yeah, I love fighting video games.
Now wait a second.
I wouldn't have it stand out necessarily.
Is what happened here that we put down some temp ones for Jeff and then he never like went?
I definitely filled them in.
Oh, that could be, look.
There is a world where we can update those.
What?
I've yet to discover that world, but when I do discover it, I will let you know.
RPGs, I mean, you like RPGs, fine.
I don't know if that's my go-to thought.
I also was surprised by seeing RPGs, but then I thought about it more.
On mine?
Yeah.
Okay, no, I definitely didn't put down RPGs, guys.
I was like, are you guys...
Are you guys being serious?
Yes.
Yeah, that's what it says.
You guys believe that I would put RPGs down there?
I like RPGs fine, but you know there's no way I would ever write that down.
Of course I know that's what happened, but I'm trying to be like just in the 1 chance.
I want to be like you idiot, you don't like funny games and RPGs.
And then have you be like you don't even know me, Mike.
That's funny.
I think that, yeah, something must have got lost there, got mixed up or something.
Okay, fine.
Mike, what would Grubb put down?
What would you put down for Grubb?
Um mean dad games, which we have a whole section of, for sure.
So we have that.
Um, making my own fun in quotations okay, and then um, not reading.
Yeah bullshit yeah bullshit yeah, just put bullshit as the last.
Well, he loves bullshit.
Terry cavanaugh just released a game about an egg trying to get up uh, platforms.
It looks like a bunch of bullshit.
What do I call that?
Bullshit, right?
I don't know what that genre is.
Slop.
Yeah, sure.
I'm glad that we were early on the reclaiming slop as not inherently pejorative.
People are having that conversation.
I already feel that way.
Friend slop's a great thing, and I want more of it.
Grubb, did you put weird Japanese games, though?
Because of that, I can believe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh yes, I think I put that I put tutorials and then they put bad tutorials in there for me because they didn't want me to look like a complete asshole.
And I appreciate that.
Uh, so some of the stuff got in there.
That's why I'm like confused.
Cause I definitely put down some things and they made their way into mine.
What did you put down?
I want to see what they edited it.
Cause it was too hateful.
It might've asked me to remember such a thing.
I got it.
I got it.
Don't worry.
I know how to pull up the document.
Oh, you like handheld gaming devices.
That's true.
Yeah um, eating burritos alone, games that feel it, don't think?
I think maybe the problem is that yours are too long.
That's probably what happened there.
If they had to sort of translate that into eating burritos alone, that sounds like an rpg nerd.
I'm fine, that's okay with me.
You know, i i always seeing that you put feel, but don't think, fucking star wars build.
Yeah, you fucking jedi, you dork right, i don't even, i don't even necessarily mean it that way.
But yes, absolutely yeah, let me just feel and not ever think.
Uh, speak about feeling and not thinking.
Uh, i feel a skosh tired because last week boys uh, we were all together in new jersey, we did the bombathon, we did 24 hours.
Uh, these two titans among men, i think, slept the least.
Talking about Grubb and Mr Minotti here.
Yeah, I think we both slept none, but I was much more obvious about it.
We're always getting bad because a lot of people are like wow Mike, you're the only person who didn't sleep at all.
And I'd be like, I don't think Jeff slept either.
He's just not a bitch about it.
I do have a photo I uploaded to our album of Grubb not sleeping, but in a trance.
I went off to the side and I did some breathing and stuff like that.
And it was like the know for a fact mike definitively did not sleep and his ability to stay up is probably like the one takeaway from the trip that has me the most shook like well because he's also the person to like he said this himself first to sleep last to wake up so then also to like that for that to be true and then also can stay up the longest it's it's surprising perfectly balanced it's the same yeah I've, I've found a way to make it make sense in my mind because it's like the inverse of like a bear hibernating and just sort of like his bear, like tendencies hibernating across all disciplines.
Um, like, yeah, like I get it.
Like the guy who regularly will sleep 12 hours can like muster the 24 hour strength to stay up.
So I get that.
And I guess that's how I've squared it.
But I will say towards the end there, Mike, You fucking scared me.
I mean, you scared me just with like what you were kind of the way you were presenting.
It was of Minotti.
It was a flavor of Minotti that I was not.
I think back when you were loopy and I think Mike Minotti was clinically insane.
Yeah, I think there was a point there where we could have like had him committed.
The number 59 took over Mike Minotti.
The number that haunts my family.
Yeah, the power 59.
Yeah, it was.
I mean look, I was leading into it a little bit, but it was definitely pretty loopy and it was.
Things just came to my head.
Gosh, the weirdest one was when I told Jan, you're nothing but a slut to me now.
That's the weirdest one?
Well, that's something a friend of mine in the 10th grade used to say all the time to make me laugh, and somehow that thing popped up to the front of my head.
Shouts to Mark Craycraft funny guy you guys have like that eccentric high school friend who just kind of did things.
I really admire that.
Like he was always like, the last day of the month i wear a suit to school.
Everyone's like, all right mark, you do that.
You know that kind of thing.
Was mark a theater kid, perchance?
No, he wasn't a theater kid, he's like he was my star trek buddy, if that, if that helps at all.
He was the guy who got me into star trek.
It doesn't help anything.
Um, speaking of help, i must help my wife get into the house because i've locked her out like a fucking asshole.
This is incredible.
Do you guys know bacalar's office is in the upstairs?
Yes, so we were at bacalar's house and uh, we go in and i had been there before.
So of course i started giving the door his bathroom once.
Yeah, I blew up his bathroom once.
That's right.
And then I was like, all right, let's go take a look at the pinball machines.
That was fun.
But then later, we started looking around for real.
And we went upstairs and we walked into Bacalar's office, which had moved like one room over.
So I was a little bit confused.
Like, wait, this is not how I remember it.
And then Mike comes in and just cannot believe that his office is on the second floor and not in the basement.
So why was that so surprising to you, chat?
Did anyone else ever assume that this was a basement office?
For some reason it's not just me, i don't know.
I was just convinced the entire time, between caught to a background, that his office was in the basement, and just seeing it there destroyed me in the discord mike.
If you looked at his door on the left hand side of our frame, the daylight Hitting that wall is so apparent to me.
It's like, that has to be a window right there.
Of course.
I think in the old room it wasn't.
It was darker or something.
Maybe that's what... I don't know.
The window's been there, though.
Both.
Yeah.
Well, the only thing I do is I did move myself from the corner of the room into the center of the room, as you guys saw.
And I think... That's it, though.
Like, the light... There's nothing else there.
I mean, I don't know what to tell you, Mike.
Is it just because... grub and excuse me, Dan are in the basement.
So I'm just like, putting everybody in the basements.
I don't know.
You didn't think that you thought you were the highest member of.
Yeah, I was.
I was special.
I was like, I have the best.
Are you in your parents house, Mike?
What about that?
It's always just like some other room, like a kitchen.
He's easy to figure out.
But no, I don't know.
I don't know why that like destroyed my whole worldview.
Seeing Beckler's office not be in the basement.
It was.
It was.
And he was very like he didn't let it go for a while.
Yeah, we brought up on this podcast like a week later.
Yeah, we caught on video.
Well, we'll cut together something special for our time out in New York.
Yeah, I'm looking for great.
Oh, man.
God, pizza's good.
Huh yeah, but there's like one thing that's bothered me.
I want my computer real bad.
Yeah, it's not like i'm sitting on it here and fucking.
I'm not blaming anybody.
Yeah, you know what i'm gonna blame isabella.
That's the only builder's name that i knew from our time at Main Gear.
Oh, I thought you meant the dog from Animal Crossing.
Yeah, that's who he meant.
Totally.
It could be the same person.
We don't know for sure.
She did a good job putting together those computers, though.
They all did.
That was a lot of fun.
That was great.
They also gave us spare stickers, too, from our cases.
So I have these Scout blinged-out stickers now.
It's great.
I'm so excited.
Yeah, I guess so.
I gave some to my nephews and nieces and it was a good combination of like, oh, well, this is crazy.
Oh oh, oh.
My niece came up to me and was like some kid at my school knows who you are and my dad likes you and they want an autograph.
And i was like, oh baby, what a day for mikey, big day for mikey's.
Get warm up the sharpies.
All righty, too bad.
My handwriting is terrible.
But here we go.
Yeah, i did want to say your signature is um, what's the word i'm looking for?
Uh, second grade level, stupid.
It's just.
What is it buddy?
I'm so glad we have back around to like make fun of stuff like that, because like i would be like my mind's not that great either.
But i know bacalar's handwriting is good so he could just really lay into you about it.
I just what's going on there?
But it just looks like a child's version of birds.
What's happening?
I was pretty bad at birds too, like you know, even like i'm just gonna draw an m for a bird.
Now, wait a second.
I do the fun thing where the, Because I have the dot two I's and I have the line for the T in Menotti and I kind of make it look like a meh face instead.
So that's cute.
I'm sorry, can you say that again?
That doesn't make it any better.
What, an old-timey gangster?
Here, it's my signature, see?
It's like a waxed, mustached villain, a debaucherous doobly-doo, something like that.
Oh, man.
Speaking of main gear, for real, what a tremendous...
Oh, my God.
Great partners.
Oh, my God.
Partner.
We keep talking about excuses to, like, go back.
So, like, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
But you can go back now, right?
Because I feel like we have not.
We should be talking about this a lot more, because it is another mechanism to support Giant Bomb.
That's true, yeah.
And you find something you like there or you use Giant Bomb code at checkout.
You are directly supporting Giant Bomb.
And you're also getting yourself a fine piece of PC equipment.
So...
Buy my plate.
Yeah.
Mike's upset that no one's bought his plate yet.
Mike, I legit considered buying a plate just to make you feel better, not telling you.
Why would you do that?
I don't like you $100 much.
I'm sorry.
Wow.
I'm going to keep that in mind come Christmas.
Mike will remember that.
Oh, no.
Come on.
Why don't you want a plate of my dog on Stitch's spaceship?
There's plenty of my plates, Mikey.
What's up?
Yeah, what the hell?
I don't buy jerseys because they're nondescript.
No, because it's the devil.
People love the devil.
It's very descriptive.
It's just arcade.
It's not personal.
Satan arcade.
What's not to like, bud?
Damn it.
Glow in the dark green.
Is the devil more popular than Space Mountain these days?
I think the devil's definitely more popular than your dog.
If you put the devil into Space Mountain, I think people would have been like, all right, I fuck with this.
You can do whatever you want.
You can get a marker.
And just like generalize Satanism, you know?
It's a very progressive church.
I'll have you know.
Right.
It is.
Come on.
It's true.
Can you imagine how bad it would be if, like Satan was real and came in and was like, all right, first to go?
All you people who made light of me, you thought that I was fun.
No, you're the first to get the poker on the butt.
I'm a chill-ass dude.
What's that?
You worship the mouse?
Oh, well.
I worship worship.
You worship the mouse for your entire adult life.
Why i'm a hero?
I talk like a californian from snl.
You worship the mouse on space mountain.
Bro, i'm a hero.
I still haven't renewed or started up by disney plus.
Again, that's how good of a person i am.
Wow, I'm gonna applaud that actually.
Good job, Mikey.
Look at me.
Times are tough.
Voting with your dollar, bro.
If you go to maingear.com slash giantbomb is the URL, right?
Yep, that's it.
You can look at all of the cases that we put out so you can see the brilliance.
Shouts out to Jerem.
Shouts out to Tim Nicholas.
Shouts out to the folks at Maingear that helped Dan make his.
Shouts out to me, because I'm good at Photoshop for making money.
There you go.
Yours really is a lot, and it's great.
God, I love Pen and Pixel hip-hop covers.
They're so good.
Gang, anything else you want to talk about before we get going with the show?
Can we put it back to Shoney's?
No.
Yeah.
Did you guys go to Shoney's when you were kids?
I liked Shoney's.
What is that?
I don't have one of those.
Every road trip, my dad was like, we're going to Shoney's.
It was just a chain restaurant that was...
It was kind of a Denny's, but I don't know.
It felt more like a warm hug than Denny's, maybe just because I was a kid.
Same.
I liked it better.
It felt like a respite on the road.
I don't know.
It was a nice restaurant.
It was the first place where I ever had French toast sticks and I was like this is sweet god, you remember the place you had that again.
Like man, we are just different people.
I remember mine too, but only because i was working at burger kings when the burger king invented french toast sticks.
So yeah, oh no, they still have show knees.
Okay, all right, i'm just glad.
Uh, mikey got to see his first youth hockey, ice hockey game.
That man, that that was great, because We showed up to yeah, Dib's hockey game when it was like in progress, pretty deep.
And literally, as we walked in, he got a breakaway and scored a goal.
It was awesome.
And then there was a kid fight.
There was a kid fight later.
It was great.
Oh, my God.
I mean it was.
You know, I don't condone child-on-child violence, but If someone can hit a kid, better another kid.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, for sure.
But the...
Best was like, it was atypical for that league.
Like, these kids never fight.
They're 10, right?
But, like, your face after you saw that first punch.
It was like, you're like, whoa, what's happening right now?
Is this okay?
Is someone going to jail?
Oh, man.
I was like, do we need to leave?
I don't know.
He looked for the nearest exit, man.
It was crazy.
It's great because, like...
You know, everyone's like, yeah, let's go watch Dib, Grub, and Gin.
They're like, oh, we gotta take care of groceries.
And Dad was the only one who was just straight up like, I don't want to go.
It sounds boring.
But he would have loved the kid fight, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So it's probably good he wasn't there.
It's probably the best.
Too much.
If only we got some stink guys so he'd be cheering them on again.
Bombathon fantastic event shouts out to y'all watching, whether or not you were able to throw in a sub or a kofi kofi.
We appreciate all y'all and I also just want to give another special shout out to Chuck Turbo, Sean Will Crosby, Tim Nicholas for helping out and all the folks in main gear.
What a lovely space.
It just worked.
It was just yeah, all the bells and whistles and even more.
And I apologize for probably all of us blowing up that one bathroom that was closest to the studio.
I did my best to clean up after myself when I could, yep.
Yeah.
But hey, you know what we can take away from this?
Bagels, right?
Maybe they are better on the East Coast.
One, two, whatever, however many.
Three East Coast bagels!
Oh my gosh, oh gosh guys, i ate, we.
They ordered bagels and the one time i ate three of them you would have thought that i like was a man versus food situation.
Oh my gosh, i want to make clear i was on your side for this mic.
Being like this is not a big deal, it's not.
It's just there's something.
How is it harmless?
I never had east coast bagels.
They were super good.
I was starving.
I didn't really eat breakfast and then, like of course there was a special god french toast.
Again, i like french toast flavors.
Apparently there's the french toast, your family french toast.
Now, Backward did put the bagels away and I had to not tell him I want them, but whisper to Jeff about how I was sad the bagels were gone, so that Jeff spoke up for me like my big brother.
I had the bagels brought back out.
I saw this interaction happen.
Without thinking, Grub just like, hey, Mike wants another bagel.
Mike just looks down and is like, I do.
Please.
Can I have the cinnamon one?
It's good stuff.
Good stuff.
All right, it was just a reflex like that's what?
Like when the?
Just like when the kids say they want something like well, then we'll just make that happen.
Okay, we have this power.
Yeah yeah my, my poor brother aj was, you know, like the meme.
Like oh, he asked for no pickles.
He, he did have to do that constantly for me because i was too shy to go out myself and my parents would make him be like you have to remake this because my idiot brother will not enjoy the flavor of residual.
Where's that come from?
You think that's just the nature of your personality or is it like a thing you just?
I'm with you, Mike.
I'm painfully shy.
I think I'm shy.
I think...
And the big old thing I was worried about being judged, which I was correct about.
That was everyone else in the room.
All anyone talked about for the rest of the day.
It's true.
Well, that's also because we talked to other people from the area and they were like, three, huh?
Most people were flummoxed by that.
It was a point of conversation.
It started up.
You know what?
Obviously, I'm not a shy person, but I am deeply non-confrontational, I think.
So it's like a situation where I'm like this person might be mad at me that I want them to make Like they already made me a sandwich and I'm like I don't want this one.
That seems deeply insulting and upsetting.
Yeah, for sure.
I have that feeling, too.
All right, boys.
Anything else?
Any other little bits?
There is something else.
There's so much.
There's always something else.
I don't know what else there is to say.
Go help with the wiki.
Yeah oh, my gosh chuck keeps asking us because like, apparently it works when we say stuff uh, and so i'm gonna say it.
Uh, there's the wiki street team that you can request to join in the discord.
Uh, just go do that and help.
Like any sort of help is gonna be welcome, even if you want to test stuff out.
Yeah help, preserve the, because you know we're making a new site.
There's the wiki on the old site.
We're trying to preserve that, but we uh, you know help is needed.
Take some hands, say whether you know how to code or that stuff, or there's You don't, and you can find other ways to help.
Yeah, just join the street team.
And if you were watching that, you're like wow, this Chuck guy, he's picking up the slack from these idiots who won't just promote themselves, and he did a really good job.
Well, show him some love by helping him out with this.
That'd be a good way to do it.
Or you can head to bombcast.com slash wiki, W-I-K-I.
Yeah, that's the repo, I think, on GitHub.
One of those Git repositories.
That's very important. you know, the site relaunch, we are closing in on a date.
We're not ready to say it just yet, but it's very close.
It is fast approaching.
So it's also a good time to remind everybody to check those emails.
If you've not opted in to the transfer of your user data from you know fandom servers to ours.
That's what we need to be able to do in order for you to have control over your account when we make the transition.
So there's also going to be another email between now and the end of the year that you'll have to get and sort of take a look at.
If you already opted in, you're good.
You don't have anything to worry about.
But just expect another email at some point that's going to put you in the right direction for making the jump with us.
But it's coming.
It's coming.
We're almost there.
We're in the seventh inning, if that's a good sports analogy.
Can you say...
Can you look into the camera and say, we're in endgame now.
We're in endgame now.
There we go.
Oh, no.
Thanks, Dr. Strange.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Did that do it?
So, yeah.
Thank you Chuck, and thank you everyone for bearing with us as we get to the finish line here, folks.
Yep.
Looking exciting, though.
Gang, if you are a premium member, you do have access to the premium site beta, and I will tell you As someone that has spent a lot of time in the back end of the existing site now I am so ready to move on.
I'm so fucking ready to move on.
I thought you were going to say something about a cup of coffee in the big time there.
Ooh, cup of coffee in the big time.
I am the intercontinental.
Pour a cup of coffee on that server.
Ooh, put it all over that.
Yes, brother.
That's just one of those voices everyone can do.
You just have to whisper while screaming.
Oh, yeah.
It's that and a Kermit.
I feel like people can do a macho man and a Kermit voice.
Everyone can do Schwarzenegger.
Everyone can at least say, I'm Kermit the Frog.
Anything past that, it might fall apart, but everyone can at least do that.
Except for that guy who's Kermit right now who doesn't sound like Kermit.
It upsets me.
Yeah.
I was going to be like, so sorry, but that also upsets me.
So sorry for us, Mike.
Sorry that you guys must endure.
I'm terribly sorry.
I appreciate that.
I agree.
It should be AI voiced, Kermit.
You're right.
Fuck.
All right.
Oh, God.
It's like the Coca-Cola Corporation has doubled down on AI commercials, and it's so bad.
Oh, no.
AI polar bears?
They don't even do the polar bears because they know that that would be a bad comparison point.
So it's just every other mammal from the animal kingdom.
Like you can like obviously tell that the AI is pulling from the koala bear from Sing when they get to the koala bears.
It's like, oh, you're just copying that.
Stealing.
And there's like 50 cuts because they can only have these very short clips, because that's all these programs can do so far, unless you build your own.
And they're not going to fucking do that.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
I hate it.
And I say this as someone who loves Coca-Cola Christmas commercials because I'm a fucking mark.
Yeah.
And it's like...
You are ruining this for me.
Even the commercials are getting ruined.
You ruined Coca-Cola Christmas commercials.
For the love of God, with your freaking creepy AI.
Santa Claus, jump scare.
Yeah, have some pride.
You are the inventors of the modern idea of Santa Claus like that.
The Coca-Cola is like when you picture Santa Claus, it's the Coca-Cola Santa Claus.
And the idea that you wouldn't like be proud of that and treat it well is insane to me.
Insane.
I should get real problems, but still.
Where's our computers?
Hey disney, if you're listening for me mike, make me the new kermit.
I can hold it for a little bit longer than just saying you do also have to be a puppeteer because, like it is always the guy puppeting and doing this podcast right now hands up so many balls.
Fine, i got the strings.
Yeah, can you do like a Richard Gere Chicago thing where you're over us pulling all our strings as we're doing the podcast?
Like oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, they both, oh yes, they both, oh yes, they both reach for it.
The gun, the gun, the gun.
Yeah, like that.
Sure, okay.
Thank you.
You got all that?
Yeah, I got all that.
I did not, at a certain point, understand anything he was saying.
It's okay.
I understand, and I understand.
It's time to talk about video games.
Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, they both, oh yes, they both, oh yes, they both reach for the gun, the gun, the gun, the gun.
Oh, yes, they both reach for the gun, for the gun.
Cicero.
Speaking about Chuck and designing the new website and helping Chuck out with the wiki.
Chuck was a fantastic DM during the Bombathon when we checked out the Warframe 1999 Operation Orius Orius, Orius.
There's a tabletop configuration of Warframe.
Grub, Manati, and I were playing it.
Let me tell you, I had a lot of fun.
I had a lot of fun doing it.
That's the first time I've ever tabletopped RPG'd.
I've never partook.
I've never done that before, and it was a lot of fun.
I love rolling dice to see if I get to do things.
I don't know what's my problem, but I like, whenever I'm playing one of these, I'm like I hope there's as many like stat checks or whatever checks, as possible.
I just want to be checked.
I think that's one of the things I liked about Ballers.
Gate 3 was, like all the times, like rolling dice.
I'm like, hell yeah, I want to roll a dice.
I didn't realize how much DD and tabletop stuff.
Just spoke to the theater kid thing.
Energy that has been like dormant inside of me of like Oh, you're very funny.
Oh, thank you, Mike.
Yeah, it was great.
Yeah.
I mean, you're talking, you're Joshua clips when you're being bent star where that was good.
I don't remember referencing the Holy spirit, but I guess I did, um, as Ben star.
Um, that's right.
Yeah.
Uh, folks, we, we have been cutting out some of the segments from the giant bombathon.
Uh, you will lose a little bit of the fluff and banter in between.
Uh, But we did cut out the tabletop segment as well as a bunch of the other segments.
They should all be up on the Giant Bomb YouTube right now.
I just wanted to call out us playing this tabletop game, because I kind of want to finish that mission at least.
Yeah, I agree.
I think we should do it.
We have to still save a person or something, right?
Yeah, whatever.
You guys figure out the mission stuff.
I'll just keep rolling and doing all the fun stuff.
I mean, all of it was fun.
And you know, in the future, if there is an appetite for it, I would like to do more tabletop stuff on this website.
Yeah, it seems like a good complimentary sort of thing to the other stuff that we do and would probably be worth looking into more.
We have a lot on the table of stuff we have to do, so no promises, but I just really enjoyed myself and I think this would be a good crew to run with.
So, yeah, let's try to.
Yeah, maybe Dan can continue to take a nap, just for the sake of he was really being like i want to try it and i'm like i don't want to discourage him trying new things, but i just don't see he doesn't like you.
Yeah jeff, at this point i want to discourage him.
Yeah, we don't like.
So you want?
I thought you meant you want to see him do it okay no no no, i want to discourage him.
It's like yeah, you could do that in your own time.
That's fine.
Uh, we're gonna go do work over here.
So yeah, it was fine, it worked out great.
Uh, i think it went really well.
Yeah, it was a ton of fun.
Also, shouts out to our friends at Digital Extremes for sponsoring that segment.
Just like the three of us were dispatched to go save someone, Jeff Grubb, this morning you checked out episode one of Dispatch.
I'm super curious about this game because it's blowing up.
Yeah, yeah.
Something like a million copies sold in a little bit over a week.
I was aware of it because it has quite the voice cast.
Uh, speaking of tabletop role-playing games, critical role is partly responsible for this game.
Uh, like their, their badge comes up as like one of like when the credits start.
It's ad hoc games, which i believe i didn't look into it, but i believe that is former telltale people and it certainly feels like one of those games.
And then they work together with critical role who helped to fill out the cast, and i think that combination and really, like You know, just the marketing power of Critical Role.
This game just had the attention of a huge number of people.
And then it is high quality.
It's well done.
It is quite good.
So I think that those combination of factors helped us get over the top.
I wasn't exactly sure what to expect.
I had a vague idea of sort of a select your own game story sort of thing, and that's certainly what it is.
The setup is you are playing as the third in a line of iron man, like superheroes.
Uh, your grandfather created this suit.
You uh had a small fortune to sort of maintain it, but your character runs out of money, the suit gets damaged.
He doesn't know how to fix it, so he's gotta retire.
And then this group approaches him, it's like, with a proposition.
It's a pretty lady, a blonde superhero who's kind of flirtatious, and you're like what's going on here?
And she's like well, I'm here to offer you a job, even though they do kiss, or I suppose that's one of the choices you can make.
The idea is they're going to set you up as a dispatcher to help manage a crew of superheroes responding to things sort of in real time.
Think the Assassin's Creed Brotherhood mechanic of dispatching assassins out to missions, but a little bit more engaged.
And then if you do that, they will bring back your suit and make you a superhero again.
So I did the first chapter, the first episode.
This is an episodic game, just like Telltale's games have been in the past.
And I think that the storytelling, the acting, and the sort of the setup is all super well done.
And like the blocking, the animation of the characters, the visual style all really jumps off the screen.
It's got a strong cel-shaded comic book look, but with a lot of detail still. then the character designs themselves are just really strong although at this point we have had so many of these hey the classic superheroes you know and love filtered through a different lens so like here's the stand-in for the human torch and here's the stand-in for the invisible woman all stuff like that so it's another one of those but i'll say this one's at least on par with like invincible in terms of its character design nice um the One thing that really stuck out for me in terms of like, oh, this is maybe a little bit even more engaging than your typical Telltale game.
It has all the.
You made a choice.
You made a tough choice.
Now this person's going to remember that stuff and it's going to have effects on the story later.
All that stuff is there.
But as far as the dispatching mechanics, it's got this cool thing where you have a team of superheroes on the bottom and then you get a mission, and the mission has a description of like hey, you need to be smart and negotiate with someone.
And then maybe you have to like give a speech.
And so you might want to have like charming abilities.
And then the characters have a sort of one of those pentagonal charts that tracks their power level.
Like think the back of a Marvel or an X-Men card from the nineties where it's like your power level.
And it's, it covers a certain part of this chart.
You don't know what the mission is going to require, but it's also going to have a part of that chart that it fills out like it's requirements, and And then so you send out a superheroes that you think are a good fit, based on the written description and based on their abilities.
And then, once they get to that mission, you check in on it and it overlays your hero.
Or if you have two superheroes, sort of their combined power over that, that bar or that, that chart.
And then it shows what the mission requires.
And if the, if it completely overlaps, that means you're going to succeed 100% of the time.
But if it doesn't completely overlap and a little part of it sticks out, it'll tell you your percentage chance of succeeding.
And then a little ball will bounce around inside of the requirement, like the skill check.
And if it lands inside of where your heroes cover, you pass.
And if it lands outside of that, you fail.
And I just thought that's like, ooh, this feels really nice.
It's snappy, easy to understand.
It kind of still does the thing that Telltale games are strong at, where it's like I'm thinking about the mechanics in my head.
I'm reading the description.
I'm making choices based on what I think these characters can do.
And then I get a little bit of a reflection of that in the game itself.
And I just thought that Hey I'm, this is enough to sort of put this game a little bit further over the top compared to the long run of of telltale games, where maybe that way of doing things grew a little long in the tooth.
So yeah, I'm, I'm quite into it so far.
Yeah.
I'm happy you streamed that this morning, grub.
I'm going to have to go back and check that out.
I'm, super interested in this game.
I feel like, for as much superhero content as there is out there, there still isn't the best amount of games.
Based off of how you're describing this, I need to check this out.
Also, it makes me really miss the Marvel Ultimate Alliance series.
Yeah.
That was one thing I thought maybe we would do during Bond.
Maybe another time is do one of the X-Men Legends games, mostly just so that Jan can be Cyclops.
That might be a fun four-player thing to do at some point, right?
But yeah.
Yeah.
Marvel Heroes was a thing for a long time.
We got stuff like that.
I think that this is not anything really close to that, but an expression of superheroes being like hey, people come to these characters for the storytelling.
As a vessel for that, this seems like a pretty well-done version or take on that idea.
Sure.
And I'm still excited about the Wolverine game coming out next year, but I don't know.
When I think about the X-Men, I think of more of them as a group rather than just someone solo dolo.
But exciting to hear about Dispatch.
Grubb, this is episodic, yes?
It's episodic.
It's just like Telltale games of the past, although I think the release schedule is a little bit more rapid than you might remember from Telltale, where it'd be like two months between episodes.
I think they're doing two episodes at a time and they seem to be coming out every couple of weeks.
Two episodes every week.
Thank you, Michael O'Leary and chat.
It's like, yeah, I hadn't really kept track of that.
Cause it was like, I wasn't even really going to play this game.
And then as it got more and more buzz, I checked into it.
And I think five and six episodes, five and six are out today as this podcast is coming out.
Cool.
Cool.
Uh, going from dispatch to extractions.
Uh, Mr Minotti, Mr Grubb and I believe a couple of other folks yesterday checked out arc Raiders.
Uh, I'm super curious.
Would I like this game?
Have you played many extraction shooters Jan?
No but I hear like if there's one to get in on the ground floor of the genre it may be this one.
Yeah, I mean this is like the newest, spiffiest one.
It's pretty new, player friendly.
We had Christian who's been playing a lot of it sort of sherpas us around, but even if he wasn't there, you know, you have like these missions that kind of like lead you to mechanics and you kind of get a sense of it.
So yeah like Yeah, the game, just it felt really good.
It looked really good.
And I was getting definitely understanding the loop where you're just going in and you are just looting things.
And sometimes you're looking for things because oh, I need to make a weapon station back at my home base so I can make more upgrades, or I need wires for this quest.
And sometimes you're just looking for whatever, maybe hoping to find a really good gun, and hope you can hold onto that as long as possible.
And then there's these arcs, and these are kind of the AI enemies, computer enemies, and they are machines.
There's drones, and those you can kind of take out relatively safely.
But then there's really big ones, like these giant four-legged walkers.
And it's like, ooh, maybe we better just avoid those guys right now.
I don't know how that fight is going to go down.
Then there are also other players, right?
So sometimes you're going to fight them.
Sometimes they're going to attack you.
Sometimes you might just wave them off and kind of hope for the best.
It's not like a battle royale thing.
Even though so much of it feels like that, It's not necessarily about attacking the other players.
I mean, the only benefit to it is that you get their loot, which may or may not be all that useful.
There's probably enough loot just in the map for you in a lot of ways in terms of stuff you can carry, because you can't only carry so much.
Yeah, but you could see the future of those confrontations where maybe you didn't want to fight the big walker so you let that other crew fight it.
If they win, then you attack them when they're done, when they're weak, and you take the stuff that they might have got from it.
Or maybe they get killed taking down the walker and you finish it off.
And it's like, you can see the interesting dynamics there.
I'll say that when I was playing, I was like, this is pretty good.
And then, when I was done, I began to.
I do I feel an itch to go back, especially hearing it runs really well on the Steam Deck.
And I think that solo queuing for me would be pretty fun in this game.
It's like i'll just like runs, i just want to upgrade my stuff.
You know, i really enjoyed early on in call of duty just doing the like upgrading my character by playing the game and unlocking all the weapons and all the gear for each weapon and stuff like that, and this game being like well, that's actually part of the loop of you can go through and upgrade your character's home base faster if you go out and have a good run and get all this extra of you know mats and materials And it's like oh OK yeah, I think I want to do that.
So I'm beginning to understand why the loop is so appealing.
I'll go back another time and let's see if it really actually sinks its hooks into me.
But at the very least, it's like this one has made the appeal of extraction shooters apparent to me.
Sure.
Yeah.
I did go back to do some solo queuing when we were done.
And I did like that.
It's a bit of a different experience.
You know, for one thing, you don't.
And I always like this was battle royale games or things like that.
You can kind of just go.
It's not like, all right, let's make sure we're all together.
Here's what I think we should do.
What do you think we should do?
Sort of a thing.
It's like being at a theme park by yourself instead of being with a group of people.
It's exactly like that.
You don't have to have a little committee all the time.
You just go.
And even the interactions with other players seem a bit more dynamic.
Whereas when there's a bunch of us, it felt a little bit more shoot on sight.
Maybe that's just me being trigger happy.
I don't know.
But when I was playing by myself, there was more like okay, this person's literally doing an emote that says don't shoot.
I guess I won't.
There's another person who's just sitting there looting something.
Why not?
I mean, that's an easy target.
Come on.
That's fun.
You know, you hear somebody trying to extract by getting on a subway.
And I'm like I'm just going to go down there and shoot them with a shotgun, as they think they're getting away in this subway.
And I do that.
And I feel like a little stinker.
But it's fun.
The game.
When we were playing all of us it made being a coward more fun than it's ever been for me.
Because there's one part we were in this hallway kind of surrounded by these windows looking outside.
And on either side of the hallway, other teams pincered us and were shooting.
And before I could even do anything, Jeff and Christian were down.
And I was like, well, there's no way I'm going to be able to save them.
I was going to die too.
You just got a new good gun, right?
I had this awesome shotgun.
I don't want to lose because that's what happens in this game.
You lose that loot.
So I just like dove through the window and just started running and let those two teams fight each other.
And I got out of there, so that felt good.
Now, okay, do you all think this is going to hurt or help Marathon when it comes out?
Hell hurt, big time.
Yeah?
Like this isn't going to be like a good on-ramp for people to get introduced to like extraction shooters.
I think it's going to be a good on-ramp for people to be introduced to art graders and to keep playing.
I don't know, because when I tried Marathon that was the first time I tried an extraction shooter, so maybe just the whole thing was a little weird to me.
I wasn't getting it at all.
Even though Bungie shooting feels good and that was there I didn't think the enemies were very interesting.
The encounters I was having with the players didn't feel that good.
Even the world itself felt a little surprisingly flat.
The app-based stuff is not nearly as nice as it is in Ark Raiders, where you have a real sense of that kind of place right and setting.
I don't know, maybe they're doing some work over there.
Uh right, because they they push that thing back.
There's going to be another test at some point.
I'm curious what people think, but i mean, how many of these kind of games can there be?
Because we sort of saw with the battle royale it's like maybe a few, so maybe there's a room for another one of these.
But i think our greatest is going to be it for a lot of people.
I don't know.
Yeah, i i would think that um, for Marathon to get a benefit here, it's going to have to have something that really sets it apart and makes it feel unique, because it can't just be like well, we're super welcoming.
So our creators already welcomed everybody and people showed up for that and it sold really well.
So you kind of have to face that.
And then if it's like, I mean, my question would be like, what could that possibly be?
Because if you're super into this now because our creators and you want to try some real sicko shit, Tarkov is still there and it's going to be coming to Steam soon, here soon.
It's not on steam yet, it's going to be coming to steam here soon and, if anything, it might destroy our creators and marathon will never even stand a chance, because now that thing is just the biggest.
So yeah, i think marathons in a tough spot yeah, i'm i.
I feel like on top of tarkov there's also the other behemoth that, if our creators absolutely blows up, kind of takes over, like as the hot game to stream or people are watching on twitch, that Fortnite is just going to come in and create an extraction mode for folks.
And speaking about Fortnite, Mike Minotti, you have been checking out Simpsons in Fortnite.
Yeah, yeah, that's one way to pull my boomer ass back in, I suppose.
It'd be one thing if it was just like the Simpsons Battle Pass with some characters you can buy, but the whole map is Springfield.
And I'm a sucker for the games...
Where you can just do Springfield.
It's cool.
Even like when you start playing like it's like the intro goes through, like it says Battle Royale, but it's in the style of the Simpsons intro.
When you're on the bus, right?
Yeah, you're on the bus.
And the bus goes through, and then you see all of Springfield.
Like, going back to virtual Springfield for the PC in the mid-90s, and then Hit and Run, of course.
Any games that have, like, all of Springfield there.
It's neat.
Where are we dropping, boys?
Camp Krusty?
That's pretty neat.
Just seeing all of it there, realize that is a good amount of fun.
Fortnite is still a really fun game.
I will say I haven't seen.
It's not like some of these updates where you're able to introduce items from the property itself to make it interesting.
I know when it was Power Rangers, you could do a Megazord thing.
Maybe there's more here, but the only Simpsons-y item I've come across is that fish with three eyes.
And it does like what a lot of eyes in that game do.
It lets you kind of blink forward Nightcrawler style a little bit there.
But, you know, I did get the battle pass because I want to beat Homer.
And of course, Homer's the last thing on the battle pass.
So now it's like, oh, you got me.
Guess I have to play a lot of Fortnite now.
I guess that's why they do these things, huh?
Oh, Moe's gun is coming soon as an item, so it's shotgun.
I kind of like that.
Right.
So you just have, like, a revolver behind the bar or something?
Right, right.
Yeah.
I'm about to unlock Marge.
I like that Marge's like.
The melee weapon she gets is a vacuum cleaner, which I'm just going to tell myself is a Simpsons Arcade reference.
Oh, it's got to be.
It's got to be.
I hope so.
Of course it is.
Do they have Homer's car as, like, a vehicle in the game?
I don't know about his, because...
The whole map is Springfield, so all the cars kind of look like that.
I don't know.
I've been to the Simpsons house one time and I was running around there and that was fun because there's, you know, each room, you know Flanders house right by it.
I was even inside Milhouse's house at one point.
It's just fun little details all over the place.
Yeah, just like the aspect of dropping on the map and running around seeing Moe's Tavern seeing, you know, seeing the power plant, all those iconic locations, is super neat.
Yo, Jeff.
What are you playing on?
PC.
Okay, I downloaded it on Switch 2.
I'm like, oh yeah, I could just play this on Switch 2 comfortably and that'd be a good way to check in on Fortnite.
Yeah, yeah.
I kind of forget I can do that as well.
Yeah.
No build mode still.
Once I had that, I don't know if I could ever go back.
I don't know if I ever want to build again in Fortnite.
No, I'm with you, Mike.
I did play a lot of Fortnite in this past week, but it wasn't any of the Simpsons stuff.
It was K-Pop Demon Hunter Live Event Tycoon, which is a community-created game where it's an idle game.
You have to punch a block or shoot a block to get dollars to come out and then use the dollars to upgrade your stage and your house and to buy new instruments to record new albums and then you sell those albums to get new fans and then, if you get 25 million fans, you could start a live event, which just means giant versions of your character singing with the huntrix characters around the world.
It was, it was like baby, it was.
It's cool.
Poorly designed one of these and yet still like a ton of fun, because it's like just this free little mode that someone made in the game using the assets from k-pop demon hunters, and the girls were happy with it and i had kind of a fun time.
So is it because they license the skins like your people?
Can community create that stuff?
Is that why it's okay?
Yeah, absolutely so.
Uh, Like when we were making the albums, it's like they were recording songs.
They weren't able to use any of the Huntrix songs, so they just used other songs from the game.
Right.
But you know the Huntrix characters were there.
You know the K-pop team and Huntrix characters were there and yeah, like they couldn't bring anything that wasn't already done by Epic themselves.
Yeah.
So it's like oh, the producer character or whatever, the manager, he's not in the game, so we don't have him running around, or at least as far as I know.
But yeah, they just kind of used what they had and then there was a bunch of generic unreal engine assets right to make it to fill out the rest of the world and so okay, people do this.
There's been a bit of a let's call it a fortnight time out and um, we've not i've not seen the simpson stuff yet.
I want to.
Um, i'm gonna check that out.
The last thing he was really into was that steal the brain rock game which um right, probably why we got into this mess in the first place.
Yeah, I was like, the kids definitely asked about something along those lines.
I'm like, well, I don't know if they have that yet.
I'm like, I'm not ready for that personally.
Yeah, it just sounds like this K-pop one is The community-created one is maybe a little bit more like cerebral.
Not cerebral.
Cerebral.
It's real charitable.
I mean, you know, it's a good clicker in the way that all clickers are good.
Yeah, yeah.
Gosh, I think the last.
Now you say clicker the last Simpsons game was tapped out, which you just can't even play anymore, right?
No, but it made a ton of money while it was going.
Yeah.
All right, let's cash out.
I wish they made like a non, like you have to wait 24 hours to do like things.
Version of that game.
I could just play now.
Cause there was something fun about that.
Um, also the car, Homer's car.
Apparently you can buy that in the shop, which I mean, I imagine means it's an email.
You can use it in rocket league.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
That's actually.
Okay.
Um so so there's like a separate mode where you drop into Springfield, and Or is that just what the map is?
That's just what the map is.
The map is just Springfield right now.
Uh, like the whole thing.
So there's like evergreen terrace, there's camp crusty.
Um, there's something called like the donut district with a bunch of the shops, uh, reactor.
Yeah.
So what do you think?
Like I, like, you know, the, the zoomers and the alpha, they know what's the Simpsons are.
So like, they don't have any money, so they don't, it doesn't matter.
They don't matter right now.
I mean I was going to say I've never been super duper into the simpsons and i'm like yeah, maybe like a middle millennial here, but i can see the value in it and it blowing up because of all everyone else having money, like you said grub, and don't forget, disney's invested like billions of dollars into epic games.
But i think, you know, i think epic is, they know, and they kind of do one for you, one for me.
So it's like your power rangers old, old stuff, power rangers, and then k-pop, demon hunters and now Simpsons and the next one will be Labubu or something.
I don't know.
I think they... Oh, I don't know if that will be... One battle after another, you know?
Yeah, that'd be all right.
No, no.
Put Fargo in Fortnite.
God, I want the Muppets.
Just please.
Let Kermit have a machine gun.
It is.
There's a part of me that's still.
This is, Maybe this is a label, I don't know.
That's like oh, it's a Bart Simpson.
Just... That's an assault rifle that is shooting people.
No, you're right.
It's weird.
You're right.
It's weird.
I do think though, for me and again maybe I'm just hyper-rationalizing but there is such cartoonishly nonsensical gun play in Fortnite.
Yeah.
Again, I'm not trying to find reasons.
It's not even like Uncharted where Uncharted, you're just obviously murking thousands of fools over and over and over again, and it's just like that's what the game is.
There's something I don't know and maybe I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid with what fortnite is sort of able to just get away with uh, with very clearly being a third person shooter.
But there is something about it that i'm just like man, it it's.
It's just uh, maybe it's like a nerfification of everything, i don't know.
It feels like yeah you're, you're right, i look.
A lot of this is because hey, it's really popular, so the brands are just going to embrace it.
But it's like a part of me, it's like, maybe the gun should look slightly less like real guns, maybe it should really be nerfy, just because i don't want to be like uh well, somebody think of the kids thing.
It's fine, but there's like, and they could slowly do that kids play right, yeah for sure, and they could slowly do that weird over and over, you know yeah, over a long period of time.
I feel like they could just make it so cartoonish right, like i, i could not imagine mario in here holding an assault rifle, like i just couldn't imagine that.
But sonics, that would look weird to me.
They'll do it with sonic.
I mean, they've been shadow.
Shadow is strapped up.
I mean, a lot of it is still just remnants of the fact that this was originally a zombie-like survival co-op game thing.
Right,
That's where a lot of this is still coming from.
Even now with the fucking Simpsons crossover event where you can run into Darth Vader and Peter Griffin and the Red Ranger and just all this insane stuff.
But yeah, it's been a good reason to go back to Fortnite.
Why not?
That's a dream blunch rotation you just mentioned, Mikey.
There you go.
Mike Minotti, you've also been continuing your trek through Lumiose City with Pokemon Legends.
Zah.
Yeah, you know, I rolled credits on it and then I was like, oh, now I can move on to something else.
But what if?
And then I kind of kept playing it and I did all the.
I did the main post-game missions too, which
It's kind of just continuing the Royale stuff for another quote unquote 15 ranks.
So you can see kind of the final story beats.
Then you you know I don't want to spoil anything, but then you can do a battle and you can capture an important Pokemon.
And then that's kind of really it for the main quest.
There's still things they could do.
Like I haven't finished that ladies research stuff.
I haven't done all the side quests, but I kind of did the main end game stuff.
So yeah, that game actually really worked for me.
It turns out, even though it is still kind of janky and weird, like I like the real-time battles but there's a lot of like this kid just kind of stuck on the side of this building.
Is it moving properly?
There's supposed to be stealth with approaching these people and that feels weird and not great, as I'll get out.
But fighting the Pokemon, it feels good.
The post-game stuff, they scale super well.
When I was doing that 15th fight, my Pokemon were all in the 90s in terms of level and I was still fighting people who were kind of in the seventies.
Uh, so it was like, okay, I feel like this end game stuff should be getting more difficult.
And it's actually mostly a cakewalk.
Even the part of the day where I had to get my challengers ticket by fighting everybody.
It's like a lot of these trainers would still have level 59 Pokemon.
So it's beginning to feel more like a chore.
That was pushing through a little bit, because I did want to see the rest of the stuff there.
Um, but I did it.
Uh, end game difficulty in Pokemon has always been a problem.
Um, just across the board with all their titles.
But Mikey, would you say it's worth it to go through it to finish up the rest of those ranks?
You get a couple cool Pokemon for doing it if you care about that.
And even outside of doing that, there's a couple important Pokemon you can catch too.
And I caught one of them and I had him in my party and that felt fun.
So yeah, I mean, it was me.
I was enjoying this game.
I kind of do actually...
I want to keep playing it.
And I still felt a little cheated early on when the game skips a bunch of rankings for you.
You kind of get them back here, I suppose, in a way.
So, yeah.
But there was something to this game, for sure.
I don't think it was amazing or anything, but it is definitely the Pokemon game that I clicked with the most since, like the DS era probably.
Oh, snap.
Yeah, so I was pretty pleased, all in all, and I'm excited...
I like the Legends side series a lot.
I don't know if I still have too much hope for the main series.
I'm not sure.
I'd be curious to try it.
But every time they kind of do slightly different things here with Legends, I am here for it.
Even though this game was more of a Pokemon X and Y sequel than I was expecting, I kind of like digging into the lore.
It's like, oh, a lot of these characters did show up in X and Y, huh?
Yeah.
Or like it relates to them.
Oh, interesting.
I apparently did not remember much of what happened in that one.
Speaking about Pokemon, one of the incentives was to revive, throw into the Pokemon Center and revive Pokemon Day, Night Combat with Sean and I, And that is, we hit that goal.
We hit all the goals really fast, actually.
So that will be coming soon to your internets.
Gang, the goal, get me to Worlds.
I want to be a Pokemon champion.
I believe in you.
Going from Pokeballs to Ball Balls.
Mike Minotti, you and I have been playing Ball Pit.
You played this last night on Mega Man.
I did.
This one's been getting a lot of buzz.
It's been an insane year for roguelikes roguelikes, whatever you want to call them, so you're not mad at me.
But this one has still managed to pop off and get a ton of buzz.
I didn't entirely know what it was getting into.
I knew it was kind of Arkanoid slash Breakout slash Alleyway adjacent stuff.
But it's a lot of vampire survivor's DNA.
Like that's the specific brand of roguelike you're getting here in terms of you know, you're kind of beating up a lot of enemies, you're picking up the XP and then you're leveling up and getting boosts from that.
But it is all in this kind of you know you have these balls that you're shooting and kind of a shoot-em-up situation like twin-stick style.
But you know they bounce around these very block-shaped enemies, very much like a breakout or an arcanoid.
And then you're getting bonuses, like special balls, like...
This ball is going to make us every time you hit a block.
It's also going to send a laser out to every other block on a horizontal line, or this ball is going to poison every ball it hits.
So it kind of takes, you know, some ticking damage afterwards.
And then the balls can eventually kind of evolve and combine with each other into super balls and you get all this other wacky stuff.
So that feels great.
There's a progression between all of it, where you kind of are building out a city and So you're making resource tiles or buildings, and then you do another kind of Arkanoid minigame of sending people out to these things to collect the resources or work on the buildings and eventually, if enough people hit a building, you make that building and you unlock a new character or a buff or something like that.
That part of the game I don't like as much, but maybe it's just because I generally just hate base building of any sort.
Oh, wow.
You're base.
You're anti-baseballing.
I didn't see that.
You're not.
I've heard say this, that they're not as enthralled with that part of the game.
I've heard that a couple of times.
Mike, you do enjoy it, though.
Yeah, I like it.
I think it's an interesting flavor.
I think you know kind of carrying some of those mechanics into that part of the game which sometimes can be somewhat basic.
So I appreciate it.
I know what you mean, though.
It is.
It's busier than it would be if it was just like hey, you leveled up because you have experience points.
Here's the new character.
Yeah, I was trying to debate whether or not I was going to start playing this, and I'm at a point of the year where I'm looking for any excuse not to play something so that it doesn't take up my time.
And I was like oh well, you know there's other games like this, that I like the whole package, so I'll just stick with those.
But i don't know, it sounds like it's a little bit more split.
I'm seeing chat people going back and forth about it.
You need to try ball pit, jeff.
Yeah, kind of watching you play it.
Last night, michael about was like oh, i should try this game.
You you, of all people, grub should check out ball.
Yeah i, i was thinking that too.
Yeah, all right, i'll do so.
The part you're talking about it's like is that with the, with the building stuff?
Is that like the?
It felt like it was like a farming thing, Yeah.
It's a little bit like, because there are like the resources and like the wheat fields, your character will pass through it and collect it.
But then other ones, like the forest.
You'll bounce off it, you'll get a thing of wood and you'll need that to build the other buildings on there.
And you kind of, like, are moving these things around to try to plant it.
So okay, my guy's going to bounce off this building and hit that and then bounce into the forest and collect the resource down.
It's a to-do.
I think it's a fun to-do, but I can see why some people...
I wish you could play.
Yeah.
I mean, no, that's what they want.
That's fine.
I was wondering like, Oh, I wonder why I like this still.
What if this wasn't here?
Yeah.
It's like the the ball bouncing or people bouncing in that just feels clunkier than it does when you're actually playing the game game.
Yeah.
Uh, game, uh, super fun though.
Very, you know, the progression was nice.
Like, you know, each time I was like, okay, I'm getting a little better at this.
I'm glad. sometimes he plays games and almost feels like a little too generous and easy in here.
It's like no, I just lost because my build wasn't good enough and I have to learn more about what I should be looking for, which balls I should be leveling up and combining into better balls.
It's also very Vampire Survivors in that there's a bunch of different levels.
So, you know, I beat one level.
It's hardly I beat the game.
I'm going to unlock more of them.
At the end of them, there's these boss fights that was, then it kind of really felt like a shmup.
Like I had this skeleton guy coming down towards me and his weak point was in the back of his head, so, you know, very arcanoid-y, I had to only kind of hit him from the back by bouncing my balls against the back wall, and then into his crown, but then, like, the one time, I had these balls that, uh, stop, stop, Jeff, I know I'm saying the word balls a lot, no, no, we like balls, it's alright, it's fine, it was the implication of back shots, is what you were saying, I'm not gonna judge, but, like, the one time I had, like, all these balls that, like, would just phase through things, so they wouldn't bounce around, so it was very easy to kill him, I just was doing straight shots, and took him out, uh,
Right away.
So, yeah.
I immediately got the appeal of this.
I think I definitely want to play more.
It's been an insane year for these kinds of games.
You know 80s 2 and Mega Bonk and Monster Train 2 and Nubby's Number Factory and just so many of these.
And yet, you know, I'm not really tired of it.
As long as they keep making good ones, I'm still ready to show up for them.
Yeah, I feel like there's another one that we're forgetting.
There's Ratcoin, which is more of a test.
What was the slot machine one?
Oh, gosh.
Clover Pit.
Clover Pit.
Clover Pit.
Clover Pit.
Coinstar.
Something else.
Go to the bank instead and do it.
Just count your own coins.
Yeah, you're better off.
They'll take a cut.
It's not worth it.
Yeah.
And to wrap off the first segment here, folks, we have the... Let me see if this works.
I hope it doesn't break anything.
The Dad Game of the Week.
The Week.
The Week.
Mars First Logistics.
What?
People have been telling me to check this out for a while now.
They're like, hey, Grub, you need another dad game.
Here it is.
It's Mars First Logistics.
And I don't know what I thought it was.
I guess it's mostly what I thought it was.
But it's a little bit more bite-sized than I guess I was expecting.
It's a...
Banjo-Kazooie nuts and bolts.
Like in that you are assembling vehicles to perform tasks and mostly take objects from one side of the map to the other.
And you could kind of build your vehicles at any time.
You just hit a button.
You could start editing them.
And they do give you blueprints to solve certain tasks.
But a lot of times, at least so far early on in the game, they are making me come up with my own solution first,
And then afterwards, they'll give me sort of an optimized blueprint to succeed at that task.
There was one where it's like, just take this box to this point.
I'm like okay, I'm going to build a little claw machine on the back and I'm just going to drag it across the Martian surface and go for it.
And then I got there and then they gave me a little blueprint that was like had these hydraulic lifts so I could sort of build an arm and lift it off the ground and then drive across.
I'm like, oh, okay, that's cool.
And it unlocked the hydraulic lifts for me.
So now I could use those in my own designs.
It got really interesting when it was like take this steel beam to this space and don't just drop it off.
You have to drop it off in a vertical way so that it actually like sits up and sits in this box, and then we'll accept it.
So I kind of had to build a a claw to grab it, and I put that claw on a sort of rotating wheel.
And then I had like a little catcher, a bit of like PVC piping to catch it.
So I picked it up.
I rotated it.
I loosened to drop it onto that PVC catcher.
And then I had that on one of those hydraulic lifts.
So I lifted it up and it began standing up and sort of leaning against the, the pvc piping, and then i drove into it to sort of set it upright inside of the acceptable thing and i was so excited when it worked.
It was oh my god, this is exactly what i want from this game.
I was able to like, come up with that idea, execute on it and then like um, like succeed all in about 10 minutes.
I'm like that's about the right amount of time.
I don't want to be spending hours and hours on these designs, at least not to just do something simple like dropping off a steel beam.
But yeah, it's hitting the spot.
Rob, I just I wish I still had access to maybe a television show where you just bust idioms and miscellaneous things and have a team of engineers to help you out.
Because I feel like you'd have the time of your life.
Yeah.
Yes.
I would...
I would love to be on a BattleBot team and just be like can I come up with some ideas and let's see if we can figure them out.
Yeah.
I may actually be able to get us a team on BattleBots.
Yeah.
Wow, what a weird departure that would be.
This.
When you're describing this, I was like I feel like I need to be like huddled around a grill watching burgers, watching burgers cook.
Yeah, you got it.
You understand?
Like that one could use a flip kind of thing, you know?
Yeah.
It definitely is just like, let's be clear, I am not good at these games.
It's not like I have some great technical engineering mind.
I have a simple caveman monkey brain.
Yeah.
Don't sell yourself short.
Well, I mean, I do eventually succeed at the goals, but in an inelegant way.
I just think it's good when these games are like, that's fine.
Be inelegant.
We don't care.
Just get the job done.
And that still feels really good.
Okay.
I know that because of the Bombathon, we have several themed weeks up ahead of us.
I mean, well into 2026.
There's 52 weeks a year, buddy.
Let's get some other weeks going.
I was going to say, if we can't devote a whole week to it, perhaps a day where we have Science Fair Project.
I would like that.
And we just try and do stuff like throw an egg off the roof or build a bridge out of popsicle sticks or something like that.
Make a volcano.
Yeah.
All right.
Just for you, Greb.
This looks really cool.
And it has multiplayer.
It has multiplayer.
And I think I decided during this that I am going to set up a stream and we're going to play some of this.
Yeah, I would like that because this looks It has this neat kind of art style that's sort of like so shady-ish.
You know, I'm...
I don't know what you'd call this, but you'd recognize it.
You're feeling it.
I'm feeling it too, man.
It's cool.
I am rendered weak.
I am no match to the draw of this game.
Yeah, it's got that flat shading to have a stylistic look at Mars and that makes it run really well on something like the Steam Deck.
A real dad game should be able to run on a lot of different machines.
It should be able to run on an e-machine from Best Buy.
Yeah, about Rushmore games that take place on Mars.
Doom, Red Faction, Red Faction Guerrilla.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah.
Total Recall for Super Nintendo.
There's not a Doom part where you're on Mars?
I said Doom first.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Doom was the first, yeah.
Yeah, not Doom.
Doom is very Mars.
I mean Doom.
Uh, the 2061 feels more marsy right, if you yes, you could play all of the original doom and not really know you're on mars.
Let's be clear yeah right doom, play that up because it's a cool idea of like unleashing hell because you were digging for energy on mars.
Like that's a cool idea.
Yeah, it rules.
The og doom yeah, the original doom was about you're on mars.
Yeah, for the first episode at least, I mean.
But they're right.
They don't knock you over the head with that information, I feel like.
You're not.
Yeah, exactly.
You wouldn't know.
You wouldn't know.
Look at us learning things.
It's incredible.
What's the fourth game for this Mount Rushmore?
I can't think of anything.
I don't know.
Maybe this one.
I guess it might just be this one now.
Yeah, maybe it's this one.
There you go.
Congratulations.
Mars First Logistics.
Biker Mice from Mars the Game.
Folks, that about does it for the first segment of the show.
We're going to go take a quick break, bricky break, and then grub.
We'll be back with the news right after this.
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This is Jeff Grubb with the news.
Jeff Grubb.
Yes, it is.
Hello, I have news.
Let's do something different.
Just go in the order that I wrote it here.
Nintendo Switch 2's phenomenal launch continues as it clears 10 million more than PS4 and PS5.
The Nintendo Switch, and that's as of this point, I should say.
The Switch 2 has had a record-breaking launch, selling 1036 million units by the end of September 2021, surpassing the launch sales of the original switch, PS4 and PS5.
This led Nintendo to raise its hardware forecast for the business year to 19 million units.
Um, and it's operating profit by 15% to 2.4 billion.
Uh, the Americas accounted for 35% of switch to sales and Japan or a 22.6%.
That's 3.68 and 2.35 million, uh, respectively.
Despite stock constraints in Japan that continue, it continues to still very well there.
Um, uh, This is probably worth pointing out.
The Switch 2 has been readily available.
And something like the PS5 was hardware constrained.
But you still have to sell these things when you put them out.
And it is doing just about as well as it could be.
I think the way to look at this is it has certainly continued the momentum that the Switch 1 built.
It didn't miss a step.
And it seems, for all intents and purposes, like it is going to do very well as long as it can maintain this rate.
That's still.
There's still questions there.
But early on people were wondering hey, higher prices, all this other stuff, these numbers continue to say that doesn't matter.
And people are showing up for the switch to right and you know, so far the console itself hasn't had to.
You know there's the initial high price but they haven't raised it yet, even though they were flirting with that.
I know for a lot of people it's like, oh this, you know, first year software isn't as good as the switch once.
Well sure, Almost nothing is.
But just looking at itself I mean Mario Kart World, I know there's some people like oh, I don't know if this is good, but it's still a good game and it's a Mario Kart bonanza.
It's fantastic.
Some of these Switch 2 editions have been fun.
Pokemon Legends EA.
I know that's on the Switch 1, but for me I think a lot of people that's a Switch 2 game.
It's a ton of fun there and there's just been I think they've been benefiting so much from a lot of these heavy-hitting indie games coming out in this launch window, like Silksong and like Hades 2 and even, I think, Ball Pit, I heard is very good on Switch 2.
I've been playing my Switch 2 nonstop.
I've been feeling very good about it.
Yeah, and not to spoil a story we're going to get to later, but Animal Crossing is looming in the background and I can see folks wanting to pick up a Switch 2 before it gets super insane, or maybe more challenging, to get one before the holidays.
Prices could go up.
I actually don't understand.
I don't get it.
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
This thing costs so much more than it rightfully should.
There's nothing really to play on it.
Oh, there's nothing to play on it.
Bonanza!
So good!
That's not true anymore as much as it was at launch.
It's just a lot of money.
I just thought people have no money.
I was under the assumption no one had any money.
And I don't.
I think there's something that's still not squaring about this from an economic point of view.
The price of this thing is looking pretty good compared to an 800 PlayStation 5 Pro or whatever right.
I mean, I guess, but not compared to like a Steam Deck.
I mean, I realize it's not their Nintendo games.
You can't play them anywhere else.
I get it.
I think with a Steam Deck for, as popular as they've become, even with the normies out there, there is still that added layer of like oh, it's a PC.
I'm playing PC games.
I'm still kind of intimidated by it versus like Yeah, there's the momentum of having the Switch already and probably having a lot of games for it and this thing playing it better.
But better than the first Switch?
That is surprising.
Well, so that is almost exclusively because this is more readily available.
Yes, the supply is better.
Switch 1 probably would have done equal to this.
I think they're i think that this system is the first one really ever to kind of hit what is possible if you have unlimited supply this is about as fast as you could sell if you're one of these devices at this price um so you know it's it's going to continue to do fine um i think it's just gonna probably pick up pace because as you said back lord the case is not wasn't great for it early on uh but all the people that don't care or recognize that the getting it now will be worth it because they'll have it for bonanza and Mario Kart, and then they'll already have the device when all these other games come along.
Well, all those other games are coming, and that probably will win a lot of people over.
I do wonder if Animal Crossing getting an update won't move the needle as much as I would expect an Animal Crossing thing to do.
But I don't know.
We'll talk about that in a moment.
Do you think there are a large amount of people who are like I want to get this now because I do worry the price is going to go up?
I think that's a measurable number.
I think that's a fair number of folk that may be in tune with the world.
I think it's hard to think that way for the vast majority of people because it's so unpredictable.
Although I think it's becoming more predictable that prices will go up like every day.
There's a new reason why it might go up.
And sure, I think the last update on tariffs is that we are back to the original status quo, like before whatever whatever, what do you fucking call it?
Liberation Day before Liberation Day tariffs.
Like, so we're back to that point.
So all those companies that moved production to Vietnam to avoid Chinese tariffs are like, well shit yes, we shouldn't have done that.
Uh, so does that mean prices will go back down?
No now uh, ssds and and um memory is going to get way more expensive.
I'm going to set ssds, ram's going to get more expensive and that's just going to keep causing all these things to go up in price over and over again.
So yeah, i i think that the early adopters, we're always gonna show up.
I think it still is a test this holiday to see what happens next for this thing.
See if the families show up for it at this price.
Wait till Kirby Air Riders comes out, you son of a bitch.
That's gonna go wild three times as much as they already done.
Mike, say bitch the cool way.
Bitch.
Nintendo wins lawsuit against player who kept streaming pirated Switch games and taunted I could do this all day.
Biatch, I think, is what he said.
Yeah, how'd that go?
Yeah, it did not go great for him.
I think it would have been better if it was you, Mike.
Nintendo has won a lawsuit against streamer Jesse Keegan, also known as Every Game Guru, who illegally streamed pirated Nintendo games before their release.
Keegan had streamed at least 10 leaked Nintendo games over 50 times since 2022, including Mario & Luigi Brothership, which is the one that Nintendo focused on.
Basically, they won a case in court where this guy now owes $17,500.
Nintendo was even like we could have asked for a lot more, but we're just going to ask for the latest infringement, which was Mario and Luigi Brothership.
This guy really taunted Nintendo and was saying things like you'll never be able to take me down because I have a thousand burner accounts on Twitch.
So if you take me down, I'll just come back and do it again.
He also said, you don't know about me.
You might run a corporation, but I quote, Run the streets.
Oh my God.
Wow.
Oh my God.
You know what?
Oh my God.
So this folk hero's out there living for the rest of us.
I haven't been on Nintendo's side lately with like a couple of their other litigious things, but you know what?
I'm on their side of this one.
It's like the dumbest criminals, like the dumbest, like, oh my God.
These are, they're warrior poets just out there fighting for us, trying to show us how it's done.
If this guy is who we have on the streets, then fuck no.
I mean, getting off at 17.5 doesn't sound so bad.
Right, because a lot of others in similar situations.
I guess this is like someone who was kind of an end user, although he was creating content, so it's a little bit different.
Nintendo typically doesn't go after end users.
They go after the distributors, these websites, these repositories, so those ones have been charged millions of dollars.
There's one person who was he was just annoying, he was just annoying right, he was just annoying.
And uh, now his wages will be garnished for the rest of his life.
He basically is uh, a nintendo.
Nintendo is a contractor.
They just get his money uh, and so yeah, this guy's not gonna be in that situation.
Uh, animal crossing new horizons is getting that nintendo switch 2 edition and a huge free update.
Uh, Switch 2 Edition.
Basically it's tacking on a 5 upcharge so you can get the new version, the Switch 2 Edition, complete with the game, for 65.
It will have enhanced resolution, Joy-Con 2 mouse controls, expanded online play for up to 12 players and a megaphone item for in-game communication where you can yell the name of one of your villagers and they'll be like I'm over here.
I don't know.
It feels like that could just be a menu option too.
And there's switch to camera support.
So that's like the list of improvements.
We've seen other games get those improvements for free.
So this is a little bit weird, but also 5 feels like well, they're charged more than that for others.
I don't know.
I'm in between on this.
I guess I was a little bit excited to find out they are still doing stuff for that animal crossing game.
Right.
And then there's the free update, which adds a bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
And you can over that, because i think that's the thing here.
Is that really all the stuff that like the animal crossing heads, that i know the people who aren't going to upgrade to a switch to until they need to because of animal crossing, i think you know?
Even just i was talking about like a halloween party.
They're gonna be fine, just sticking with the switch one still, because all the actual new stuff they care about is still coming to that version of the game.
Yeah, and I think Nintendo knows that.
So this to me feels like an acknowledgement that maybe this team, who I believe is the Splatoon team, maybe they were prioritizing a Splatoon first, because both of those franchises are super important to Nintendo now.
And they're like let's get Splatoon out early and then we can wait on the next version of Animal Crossing.
So they kind of flipped.
It should have been a new Animal Crossing first because most recently we got Splatoon 3 from them.
Yeah, some of the things in this free update, this is version 3.0.
It will be released for both the Switch and Switch 2 versions.
It includes a new hotel run by Kappen and his family, increased home storage, so now you can have 9000 items.
I think it was 5,000 before.
A new dream location called Slumber Island for creating multiple islands.
You can then edit those islands, like where the waterfall is and stuff like that, in a way that maybe you couldn't before.
Let's see here.
New collaboration content with brands like Lego, but also The Legend of Zelda.
There's like just generalized Nintendo stuff.
And that includes if you're an NSO member.
You could bring a retro console into your house and play old video games inside of Animal Crossing.
I think they said it was like one game per console though, and it was like ice climbers for the NES.
So I don't know.
I'm trying to get my hopes up too much for that.
Yeah.
I mean, that was really neat in the GameCube game.
I'm so glad to have it back.
It's a little different when I could just push the home menu and I'll go to my NSO thing and play.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But still, it's neat.
Yeah, having it in there, boy it's, it's wild.
I was pretty.
I was.
I was pretty surprised by this because they haven't really updated this game much when it was a giant hit.
I assumed that it was just like yeah, let's make the next one and maybe that'll be the big 2026 game and you know that'll be the flagship.
But now getting this, i'm like okay, so i guess maybe we aren't getting animal crossing next year.
Is that reading too much into it?
I don't know.
It feels that way.
What is the 2026 game game?
Because i'm still modachi life, baby.
I guess that's it.
It's all about that right, maybe they do already have tomodachi life that's a good point and maybe they are thinking those overlap too much.
Um i, i get the sense that this, a lot of the stuff in here, is probably updates that were always going to happen for when this was probably a switch pro and was going to come out years ago, And then they delayed the Switch Pro and then ended up not doing it.
They did a Switch 2 instead.
And they're like, let's just save the Animal Crossing update for that first year.
So I think a lot of this work could have been done for a while.
Obviously they would have taken that time and done more to it, to sort of specify it specifically for the Switch 2.
I guess what I'm getting at is there's a possibility that this work has been done for a minute and that they are also working on a new Animal Crossing that could come out as early as like early 2027.
So uh, that's possibly hopium, but maybe that's the case, we'll see.
Yeah, by the way, did you see there's a new metroid prime 4 trailer?
That looks amazing and i'm assuming everyone on the internet is complaining about it or something.
I definitely was like.
I definitely glanced at the the comments, being like all right, what are they complaining about?
I have not seen anything yet, but you're right.
That does not mean that there's gosh, it looks.
I'm just so freaking out just now.
It's a month away.
It's a month away today.
I'm saying Like an hour ago.
I'm seeing the trailer, yeah.
Yeah, the trailer's three hours.
Hey, Mike, are you shaking?
I'm going to be able to play a new Metroid Prime in a month.
I am so freaking excited.
It looks so freaking good.
Oh, my God.
This looks so good.
I think it came out at the same time that Dick Cheney died.
Yeah, one door closes, another opens.
That's how that works.
Gosh, it just keeps on giving.
Mike, the desert doesn't have as many things in it.
Yeah, it's like she goes through it in like two seconds.
It's amazing uh, and it looks super fun.
And gosh the, when you shoot she shoots out of this tunnel into the desert and it's the coolest looking tunnel i've ever seen.
There's all these middle flappy things like and she like shoots through.
She does an akira slide.
There is so much juice to this.
Oh yeah, i cannot wait.
Oh, I don't like that.
I don't like that.
I'm on your side again.
Give me another bagel.
Four bagels.
Let's go.
I don't want you doing anything four bagels Metroid Prime 4 at all.
I don't want four bagel deep Mikey.
All right.
That's too much.
Four bagels deep.
You couldn't handle four bagel Mikey.
The beyond of Metroid Prime 4 beyond is four beyond three bagels.
Metroid Prime 4 bagels.
Listen.
What would you rather have done, 10 bagels or 100 nuggets?
Oh.
You know what?
That's a lot of bagels.
I think 100 nugs and 10 bagels are kind of equal.
That's what I'm saying.
This is tough.
10 bagels is a lot.
That's a lot of bagels.
Let me tell you something.
Four is a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's like 40 nuggets, though I don't know how anyone does, 40 nuggets is a lot.
I don't know how you guys did that.
I still think about that.
And then didn't Vinny say like his vision got blurry?
Yeah, he stopped.
He stopped the moisture in his body getting soaked up.
Maybe if I had started that earlier I could have done 100 in the one sitting, versus like later when we did it.
Can I?
My body just tunes off like eating sometimes.
Can I get the red lobster expert on the podcast right now to do some back of the napkin math and let me know how many Cheddar Bay biscuits equals 100 nuggets?
Yeah.
Are you accounting for the fast Wi-Fi in the cold brews?
You know I am.
Okay.
Just making sure.
That doesn't add to the caloric intake.
I'm going to guess that one nugget equals...
I think three nuggets equals a Cheddar Bay biscuit would be my guess.
Three nuggets?
I thought it would be more, but that's fine.
I guess.
I think three nuggets.
So we're talking 33 Cheddar Bay biscuits.
I think you have 33 Cheddar Bay biscuits.
I'm telling you I probably had like at a Thanksgiving meal without thinking I've had at least 10 Cheddar Bay biscuits.
Yeah, I was going to say, I've seen someone do 12 without even thinking.
Without even realizing it.
Just being like, oh, I guess I did do a dozen of these.
The Cheddar Bay's in me.
That's the only competitive eating challenge I would partake in.
You're my Cheddar Bay.
Cheddar Bay all day, baby.
You don't ever bring those up in all of your shilling for this beautiful seafood burger.
I see Cheddar Bay all day sometimes.
All that trade does say Cheddar Bay all day.
It's not as important as the fast Wi-Fi or the cold brews or the hot CEO.
I would take the bay biscuits over the fast Wi-Fi any day of the week, twice on Sunday.
I want to be clear.
This makes me want to go to Red Lobster so bad.
I just want those biscuits, man.
Every time we talk about it, we got to stop giving this juice away for free, Mike.
I want to go to a crab boil now.
It's so fast.
All the Red Lobsters have closed near me, though.
The closest one to me is Times Square.
We should have went.
No, we should not have.
I did see that one.
I was like, oh, we saw that.
We saw that Margaritaville that apparently is also a hotel with every floor having its own bar.
Oh, we should have gone.
God Vitelli just like blew my mind when he said, yeah like people will do a bar crawl at the Margaritaville hotel.
The Margaritaville hotel bar crawl from floor to floor.
You said people do that.
We are going to do that one day.
We are people.
And I want to be clear.
Elevator every time.
What if we start at the top and go down?
It's still the elevator.
It's fun.
It's like a ride.
We should just roll dice to see which floor we have to go to.
Oh, roll for initiative.
If we went to that Red Lobster in Times Square.
I just don't know how I could have ever forgiven any of you.
We did well on that New York trip.
It was great.
Very thankful.
Shouts out to the homies that helped us out.
We were always complaining about the wifi, though can I tell you something that might make you upset, and this is only going to play for us.
If it needs to be on the podcast, so be it.
I got a text back, oh okay.
Well, maybe I'm just, maybe I'm a ghost, maybe that's what it is.
Maybe I've been six cents and had no idea.
Will this be a thread on the video, so people will eventually get it?
I don't think so.
I don't think we should do that.
Let's make it sure.
Red Lobster, folks.
How about it?
Anyway, the U.S.
Patent Office is going to re-examine Nintendo's patent on summoning characters to make them battle.
It seems like people raised enough of a stink that this relatively rare thing of the USPTO looking at one that they approved and re-examining it is going to take place.
So what the next steps here are?
I don't know um, but i guess that there's a chance that nintendo could lose this.
Not that they were ever going to be able to like wield it in a broad way, although you know, if you have it you could sue anyone and claim this is your basis, and then it has to go to court and that could cause uh cost for people, so they could have still weaponized it.
So maybe it's a good thing that uh, there's a chance the uspto will make them think twice before doing that.
Uh, Nintendo is releasing a Zelda Breath of the Wild vinyl box set in the West to gauge demand for physical soundtracks here.
It's 34 tracks for the double LP.
That's $50.
There's an eight LP set with 130 tracks for $195.
This release is a test case for Nintendo, according to Bill Trennan, vice president of player and product experience, to gauge demand for physical soundtracks in the US and to bring video game music to a broader audience.
Trennan also mentioned the Nintendo music app, blah, blah, blah.
This is weird because Nintendo has not really ever done this.
There's Pokemon.
Pokemon has had some soundtracks released here.
Separate enough, right?
It's separate enough that like, you know, although maybe it's not separate.
Maybe the good experiences over there translate because Nintendo is involved in the business side of the Pokemon company.
So maybe they heard good things and it set their mind at ease.
I have always been curious why Nintendo hasn't done this.
It felt like easy merchandising.
I assumed it was them being concerned about some of the laws around.
If you release music physically in America, then you become open to some rules about being able to have your music covered illegally.
That was always speculation.
This should kind of be a good opportunity for people to be like, yeah, we really want this.
And maybe Nintendo will start doing a lot more of it.
I don't know.
Mike, what do you think?
Are you a Nintendo music fan?
Vinyl record collector now?
I mean, I think it's going to be lucrative enough for them, right?
I mean, you know, you sell calendars, right?
Like, why not also do these vinyl things?
They're very they are trendy and they're fun because they almost more so than a thing to play music.
They're collectible.
They look nice.
They have great art.
It's just neat to own these things.
Yeah, I think this is going to do well and just going to be a lot.
More of them.
Even though, like, A Breath of the Wild 1 doesn't necessarily do a ton for me.
I like that game's music in the game.
It's not necessarily something aside from that one trailer track right, that's not even in the game.
It's not music that I'm seeking out outside the game constantly.
You know I bought a bunch of like kind of like third-party unofficial Nintendo vinyls constantly because they look cool and the music is amazing.
And I would happily just cd set from japan, because they sell these things in japan yeah, they just haven't brought them here yeah, so i would happily give that money to nintendo uh instead, if they just, you know, put the effort in and make all this, you know, and i hope they do, and i hope they like go back, hope it's not just for their most recent biggest hits, i want them to give me a star tropics finals, things like that right, have they?
Yeah, am i imagining splatoon being on vinyl before?
It might have, but it would have been just in Japan.
Maybe not just in Japan, but certainly not in America or the West, broadly speaking.
That one makes sense.
You could just see them doing the fun color stuff with the vinyl, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
I do think it's much more of a collectibles kind of thing.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's why they're starting with the vinyls.
Yeah.
To me, that is the thing that has transcended the function and more the display charm of it all.
I mean, Jeff got me a record player a few years ago for my birthday and I just dove very deep into collecting vinyl.
Do you do it a lot?
Do you play vinyl a lot?
I don't play vinyl a lot.
I do sometimes, but definitely not a lot.
Definitely not enough to justify the money I have spent on the records themselves, but it's like eh, it feels good.
It's fun.
They do look nice.
I like having this great box of my records and it's everything from some weird Jimmy Buffett thing I found cheap to you know, the soundtrack to Star Fox 64, and then some weird-out things of Iron Maiden.
It's just like, this is me in a box.
I like that.
Okay.
Cool.
Digital ownership must be respected, says the UK Parliament as it debates the Stop Killing Games campaign.
Really, there was some back and forth here.
The point is that this is actually being discussed by people who have their hands on the lever of powers in some of these major markets.
And the specifics are still being argued.
There's one side that's certainly like hey, to do anything about this, we would have to change consumer laws, and we really don't want to have to dive into that.
A lot of people arguing that the current consumer laws don't do enough to protect people who spend money on a product that could be taken away from them if these companies do not adequately do the work to ensure that a game is playable after the servers go offline.
All that stuff not settled and, if anything, it seems like the government doesn't seem like it's going to budge on these specifics.
I think what is happening here though, is certainly these companies have got to be worried that it's even gotten this far to the point where the uk parliament is discussing it openly publicly, as a matter of public debate, and there's a strong chance that this will just force these companies to realize oh, the money we were spending to do this is actually worth it, because it avoids regulation forcing us to do even more that we wouldn't want to do.
So let's just kind of step up our game a little bit.
We've already seen Ubisoft bring, I think, The Crew or The Crew 2.
One of those games got updated to have a little bit more of an offline mode.
And that seems to have been a direct response to this.
So just get a little loud and you might be able to see some improvements to the way that this world works.
And I think that's some good news there.
Hey, also... you're in America, fucking go vote today.
You can vote today, yeah.
I'm doing that after this.
I'm allowed to vote in the New York election, right?
Yeah, you had three bagels.
You were just there.
You're allowed.
Listen.
You tell them you had three bagels, they will probably insist that you vote.
You didn't vote while you were there?
What the fuck?
Oh, that's right.
What the heck?
Your ballot was in the bagel.
It's all good.
Oh, bagel ballot.
Can I move over there and open up a bagel place called Bagel Ballot?
We'll have the hanging chad.
We'll be our signature bagel.
Oh man, these hot refs.
I just... Like a voting themed bagel store?
Yeah!
I'm sorry, Mike.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Come on.
It'll be fun.
When you deconstructed like that, Bacalar, it's not fair.
Also, were you implying, Mike, that you're moving in with Bacalar?
That's the least of this story's problem.
No, you said that Bacalar's going to adopt him.
That's fine.
We can skip that part of it.
That's the easiest to believe.
The least believable part is that we're opening a bagel store, that we are competing with every corner in New Jersey and New York with
Yeah, but they don't have the hanging Chad.
They don't have the hanging Chad or our very special pizza bagel.
Or the Dominion voting scandal.
That's my favorite bagel.
That's a hot ref too.
Imagine the lines on election day.
Imagine.
Imagine all those people.
Imagine going out of business.
Mike, you could also run a schmear campaign.
Okay.
I'm back in.
I'm back in in a big way.
Jan.
Jan.
Oh, shit.
I got one of those a week.
Come on.
Wow.
I feel like that was a million dollar joke.
Mike, man, unacceptable that you didn't think of that first.
You came up with it every other way.
Don't turn it into a negative on me.
It's a positive for our business.
You're like, oh, I have a voting themed bagel store.
I wasn't so busy trying to get you to accept it.
I could have been thinking of that myself.
Oh, man.
Jim, thank you.
Thank you.
I saved the business.
Don't worry.
All right.
Let's keep going.
We already talked about the Simpsons and Fortnite, so we could skip that.
Amazon's Lord of the Rings MMO has reportedly also been canceled.
They were going to do a new MMO.
This is a company that's already done other MMOs like New World.
They seem to be less interested in this because it was going to still require a ton of work to get it across the end.
And they...
I had a lot of people working on games in general and they are I don't know, seems like to me they're losing interest in that.
Also, I just don't, Lord of the Rings feels like it's in a weird spot to be super investing in.
I know that Amazon continues to do a TV show.
They're probably going to do more stuff in the future, but I don't know.
It feels like a low tide for that to me but Mike, you have your finger on the pulse a little bit more.
How are you feeling about it?
I mean it's not surprising because Amazon is retreating.
I think I mean New World isn't going to stop getting updates, even right.
So that was their big push.
Yeah, Lord of the Rings is in a weird place right now.
You know, we had those Hobbit movies.
Sorry, Jan, but for most people, they didn't hit.
That Amazon show was expensive, and people watched it for a while.
There was an anime movie recently, too, right?
No one cared, right?
So yeah, a lot of it is just... a lot of it's just kind of happening.
It's being thrown out there and it's like, is any of this ever going to hit?
Like, there's going to be that Hunt for Gollum movie and it's, you know, it's like, oh, all the original people are back.
Hunt for Gollum?
Yeah, still don't know if I have any faith in that, right?
Wait, really?
That just sounds stupid.
Yeah, that's a real thing that's happening.
Michael, it's because it is stupid.
That's a real movie.
That's just dumb as hell, man.
Yep.
Yeah.
Movie?
Come on.
It's a movie.
I watched that show and I think I got like An episode and a half in and there wasn't a single time that anyone smiled and it just was so oppressive.
I get that we are maybe going away from snarky characters quite a bit and that's what we're trying to get away from, but Lord of the Rings shouldn't feel oppressive from the word go.
There should be a moment where hobbits are doing something stupid that I can enjoy, and there wasn't any of that.
It is crazy.
I mean, even to the same... effect in some capacity.
Those two, Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings, the speed in which they kind of fell off.
It is kind of wild.
You know.
What astounds me though, is Game of Thrones House of the Dragon.
The new season's coming and they have another spinoff in the works, or whatever.
Yeah, they keep making it, but I know one person excited about it.
I think it's the same for Star Wars.
They completed the main story and everything else doesn't feel like it matters as much.
But while we're talking about all of these huge franchises and ip continuing to go and who the fuck cares y'all?
The walking dead is still happening.
Yeah, how many pinball machines shut?
Daryl dixon is no longer in paris.
He's moved to spain.
Paris, he was in spain.
He's in spain with carol.
Now just die What.
That's crazy.
Just become a zombie.
How many spin-offs have they done of that?
That's wild.
But, you know, Lord of the Rings and video games have been... That's been especially rough.
Gollum is maybe the most famous bad video game of the last several years.
That Shire game happened and nobody liked it.
So all that.
And then, yeah, Amazon, like, they fired, like, 17,000 people, a lot of them from games.
So...
You know, it's what always happens when these big tech people get involved in games.
It makes a big push and put a lot of money into it.
And then they just eventually retreat.
Then the MMO space is just also weird right now.
Especially if you're talking about that traditional hot bar style MMO.
Which World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy XIV seem to just kind of have locked up for the most part.
You can do maybe something new with survival mechanics like that Dune game.
I'll be sure to check back in on that.
Are people still playing that Dune game?
Is it still doing well?
I don't know.
There is a Lord of the Rings MMO.
Now, Lotro.
There's Lotro, and it is quote-unquote, I believe, still going, but it is very old.
It's never been updated quite as much as, say, World of Warcraft is.
It has a very dedicated following of the people who that is their game.
Kind of like It's that Star Trek Online area, too, right?
There are these kind of games that that is still... Is that still, like, below EverQuest?
Like in terms of the amount of players and engagement, or are they kind of It's probably around, I would guess?
Certainly better than EverQuest, too.
Yeah, Lord Shore just got a new expansion.
And the whole thing with Lord of the Rings Online was always that it was concurrent to the game.
So, I don't know if they actually caught up to Frodo throwing the ring in the volcano, so...
I have no idea what they ever thought the pitch was going to be for this new Lord of the Rings MMO.
I am not shocked it's not happening.
I don't think too many people ever had faith in it or are sad.
It's not going to be a thing.
I love Lord of the Rings.
I would love to see some exciting Lord of the Rings games and projects again.
I'm also somebody who's like, hey, I still have those movies.
We got some neat games.
I got to go play Shadow of War still.
I'll just do that.
What about, Mike, The Hobbits and Fortnite?
I mean, I don't know if they're gonna do that, but we're gonna definitely, like... Give him a gun!
They're gonna give Gandalf a gun at some point.
That just makes sense to me.
Almost certainly.
I just want to shoot Elijah Wood as a character.
Okay.
Do y'all think Harry Potter and Fortnite's gonna happen?
Yes.
It sounds like it's going to.
Huh.
Okay.
That's it.
We don't have to talk about it.
Fuck J.K.
Rowling.
I think somebody... Last door here.
Somebody was saying when I was...
I could have sworn.
I don't know.
I'm careful.
I thought I heard that it's a rumor.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I think it's supposed to happen soon.
I'm not tapped into that scene.
I don't know.
Last story here.
Kojima says that if he'd known the Wachowskis wanted him to make a Matrix game, it could have happened.
Hideo Kojima denies knowing about an offer from the Wachowskis to create a Matrix game in 1999.
That is what a former Konami vice president claimed and that They also said Kojima was like there.
But maybe he didn't quite realize what was happening or it was a little bit early, for He was starstruck.
Yeah, maybe he was starstruck.
I mean we do like we know as a matter of this is that he's going to like connect with the Wachowskis now right,
And we should, like, probably get scans of them in that machine any second, like... Oh, sure.
Like you know, I mean jim was doing like zone the anders and melgar saw it too in 1999, i imagine.
I'm glad we got those things.
Yeah, instead of him doing a matrix game, i'm glad we got enter the matrix.
It's not amazing, but i'm glad that game exists.
It's not bad.
I remember having fun with it.
It was a big deal.
They marketed like crazy was path of neo the mmo or was that the second?
That's the sequel?
And then there was the matrix online by sega, which i i think is the only place you ever got to see morpheus's canonical death was as an in-game event in the matrix online.
If i'm wondering well, he's like took all that stuff seriously.
They all took that like all this stuff is canon yeah, and and stuff like that.
And then and then and then the final boss fight of was it enter the matrix was not canon or maybe this is path of neo.
And they're like so the wachowskis came on screen and were like hey, We're going to break canon, but we want you to have a fun boss fight.
So here you go.
It's like, oh, okay, cool.
Yeah.
It's a good time.
I know that the Wachowskis are listening, because I'm just going to boldly claim that we are their favorite video game podcast.
Can you just make another Speed Racer movie, please?
Yeah, boy.
How about that?
Man, that movie rules.
Go Speed Racer.
I think it's like the most recent, most timeless movie.
You know what I mean?
It just feels like oh, that could have been made at any point in history.
It's just like swag, do it.
Yes, swag popping off the screen.
Um, all right, that's it.
1999, though.
That's that's like before.
Kojima was like like everyone knew we was.
That was a lot of stuff before metal gear solid that was right through metal gear solid.
So that was like yeah, i mean that would be like make.
I mean, matrix one was 98 99 99, i think you're right.
So yeah, that's like.
Yeah, i feel like they're all too busy with other things to be worrying about collaborating already.
You gotta make a bunch of sequels for the next decade or so.
Have fun with that.
That does it for the news.
I'm handing this show back over to you, Jan.
Folks, we're gonna take another quick bricky break and we will be back with emails and YouTube super chats right after this.
Lord of the Crabbles, right.
Make a Ridge Racer movie.
Do that.
Ooh.
Okay.
I'm right on it.
I mean, yes.
Go do that, Jan.
Emails, bombcastatgiantbomb.com is the email address to send your emails to.
You can write in about and in everything.
We appreciate all of the lovely emails that have been coming in to the website post-bombathon.
Love and appreciate y'all.
Thank you for the very, very kind words.
We do read them, or Chuck will read them and then send them our way, and then we'll feel all warm and giddy inside, and then we'll have the affirmation that we so desperately crave.
Yeah, it'll be enough.
It'll be enough to get me through the day.
First email comes from Travis and Fargo.
Like always, Travis sends in five questions and I choose one of them.
Travis writes in if you had no milk-like substance available, what liquid would best get the job done for assembling a bowl of cereal?
Travis and Fargo.
So no alt milks, nothing like that.
Can't I just go dry?
I'm with you, Mikey.
You can go dry.
I'd go dry.
Well, that's not the question.
The question is what liquid?
I mean, I think it's fine as an answer to get us started, but then let's say you did have to put a liquid on there.
Would you be okay with water?
No.
Something about that feels wrong.
Would melted ice cream be too close to milk?
Yeah, that's basically milk.
People put beer in their cereal in movies and TV shows.
They're not normal.
I've never done that, but I wanted to.
I feel like I should try because I bet it's better than I'm expecting.
To me, it sounds repulsive to me.
Ice coffee?
Maybe.
Coffee.
I think coffee.
Yeah.
There's something to coffee.
Maybe coffee.
Everything else sounds very gross.
Let's go with coffee.
Show me coffee.
You get one of those breakfast cereals that's like, oh, this is a donut.
It's like donut O's or something.
And then you're just dunking your donuts in coffee.
Speaking of donuts, guys.
No.
We had too many donuts.
When did we have donuts?
We had two donut deliveries.
At Main Gear, we had available to us was, let me count, five dozen donuts.
What?
I'm sorry, I will not accept your indignation.
There's no way you could have possibly not known we had donuts.
There's 100% possible because I was just flooded in nugs.
That's striking.
You were possibly still deep in your nug coma.
Yeah.
I think I was notified the donuts arrived.
Did not realize it was all like that.
They were like, they're there.
Went over to the room, found one.
I had one donut and it was very good.
Well, I felt so bad because Sean from main gear, who uh helped design a lot of the art for the packaging of like everything um, brought in two dozen like Oh, I don't know.
14 minutes after the finale donut.
And I was just like, Oh buddy, I'm so sorry.
And he's just like, uh, I'm like, ah, well, someone will eat them.
Shit, I want donuts real bad now.
No, no, no.
Shouts out to Brent, though, and Brent's wife.
Those chocolate chip cookies.
Oh, my God.
I forgot about the cookies.
They're very salty, which I like.
You know what they do with them?
The sea salt.
Yeah.
He puts sea salt on top.
That hits so good.
Oh, my God.
Easy peasy.
Oh, my gosh.
Can I just hang out there to get free snacks occasionally?
Jesus.
Apparently like they've got days where where shit pops off and like some real serious pizza shows up.
Damn.
If I have a potluck here, it's just, it's just me.
Yeah.
It's just a pot.
If you know what I mean.
Oh God.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Uh, alternatively, I would say yogurt or cereal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I was thinking that too, but that's kind of milk.
Is that kind of milk?
It's kind of milk.
It's kind of not a liquid.
It's not really liquid.
It's not really milk.
It's a plasma.
It's a plasma.
Do you guys hear Earthworm Jim say plasma when you hear the word plasma?
Plasma.
No, I think.
But now that you said it.
I think of one of the Godzilla movies.
I think Godzilla 2000.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
They announced Godzilla.
I think of the video game Plasma Blade.
They announced Godzilla minus zero.
Oh, baby.
Oh, I'm so fucking ready.
Inject that shit into my veins.
Do you think... Coffee's our answer.
Coffee's our answer.
Jan, who's going to be the other monster who shows up in Minus Zero?
You think they're going Mothra?
You think they're going to go King Ghidorah?
Phil.
They can't go to Ghidorah this fast.
It's too soon.
It's too soon for Mechagodzilla, but they might do... It's too soon for Mechagodzilla, right?
You think they would do Mechagodzilla in World War... I'm assuming it's around World War II.
Imagine if it was real industrial... Who's the crab?
Yeah, they could do it A military industrial complex sort of style.
Who is the crab?
Who's the crab?
I only know this from the football machine.
That's the giant enemy crab from Kenji 2.
Ibarra.
He owns a burger store.
Ibarra.
It's Ibarra.
What's the... The pterodactyl, the bird.
That's Ralph.
Rodan.
Rodan, right?
Yeah, I think Rodan.
I think Rodan could be a good villain.
Just...
Let's just finally get that Gamera crossover for love of God.
Yeah, now's the time.
You know what?
Come on.
If I were to trust anyone, I would trust the Godzilla minus one team to introduce Ultraman.
I need to watch Shin Godzilla still.
We went to the... There was like an anime figurine store in Times Square we walked in.
And the one thing that I almost wanted to get was the Gamera figurine that looked amazing.
He was shooting lasers out of his mouth.
Looks so freaking cool.
Who's...
Who's the?
When I had the machine in my house, there was.
I thought it was fake, but it was real.
There was one that, like, eats smoke.
There's... He, like, sucks on, like, a tailpipe.
He sucks on, like... Okay.
Who is it?
Is it the one with, like, spikes?
It's Adora.
Yes.
Chat had that.
That's not me.
Adora.
Yes.
Literally sucking the smog out of, like...
An industrial plant.
He looks like, yeah, he looks like toxicity come to life.
Oh, this thing, this thing's fucked up.
I like, do you have any room in your heart for like new Godzilla monsters?
Do you like want to see them try to do something new or you just want to play?
Yeah.
Why not?
Yeah.
I think they could do like one of each, right?
Like bring back a classic one in the movie and then introduce a new one and see what sticks.
I'd be fine with that.
Yeah.
I love this shit.
I got, it's fun.
I love Godzilla.
Yo, that's always fun.
Fucking love Godzilla.
Yeah, I would only want them to introduce Mothra if Mothra is just a friend from the jump.
You don't want any like, oh, Mothra might be bad.
Mothra's got to be chill.
Mothra's good, right?
Mothra should be the Vegeta and become good.
Mothra's more like a Bulma.
I need to see the original Mothra movie because apparently it's actually quite a banger.
Even before Godzilla's involved.
Most of those are available on Max, the one to watch for HBO.
There's also those free channels built into your TV.
The Tubies of the world and Google TVs.
There's usually just a Godzilla movie channel.
These are just playing constantly.
I try to put that on every once in a while.
I really dislike where they went with the new Godzilla movies, like the 2014 series, and how now it's just pulp with Kong.
And I like Kong, but that last movie was terrible.
Yeah, I liked the first Kong Godzilla movie.
I did not see the second one.
Just bad.
Just bad.
And then it inspired that terrible video game that we subject to one of our friends to play.
Did it inspire?
All right.
Next email comes from Mike from Loveland.
Hello, Bombas Grandes.
The funniest name for a drink is Cheerwine.
It's named like root beer from an alternate reality.
Your challenge is to cheerwine some video game names, like hit new release Conflict Pasture 6.
Love the show.
Love you all.
Mike from Loveland.
Punch Out should be called Stereotype Fight.
Oh, Stereophyte?
No, that sounds not good enough.
Still like it.
I like Stereotype Fight.
The most.
One of those is when people would get uh, my dear friend moises taveras mixed up with austin walker on the bombathon yeah, and then someone just called him houston runner and he's just gonna stick with me forever.
Now there's austin walker and houston runner.
Uh, there's our boys.
Um, i like this exercise you call nhl 2k or yeah, you call that.
Uh, iced canes simulator 2026.
Um okay yeah, I feel like Ball Pit is already doing it.
Yeah, it's kind of already.
Ball Pit just went straight for it.
I respect things that just do that right away.
Monster Train is close but not enough because that is just what it is.
Yeah, there's no cheer.
It's just the wine.
Mario Brothers is also like this because it's like that's already just Italian Siblings.
Right.
Already the name of that.
Italian Siblings.
Italian Siblings.
All right.
Moving along.
Let's read two more emails.
Mike from Long Island writes in.
I just remembered Oklahoma is a state.
Any thoughts on Oklahoma?
Ever been?
Everything tracks.
Yeah.
I think the only time I ever think of Oklahoma is when J.R. from wrestling was talking about it.
And otherwise, not so much.
I think apparently he's got some stuff out right now.
So I don't know.
I'm sorry to say I'm not thinking about Oklahoma.
But there's that musical, right?
Where is that musical?
Yeah, but are you thinking about that musical a lot, Mikey?
You know me more than you might think.
For whatever reason, that play comes up as a plot point a lot in stuff, I think.
I agree.
You're just sort of like...
It's like, oh, I was in an off-Broadway version of Oklahoma.
I think the climax of that movie is like a citizen's trial and it's like, framed as a It's the Oklahoma City bombing.
It's really weird.
Something about the citizen's trial of Sesame.
I just saw a recording of it and it was... Hugh Jackman was the lead in it.
I'm like, oh, he's nice in that.
He's a nice guy.
He loves to sing.
Oh, what a beautiful morning.
I do think of the Oklahoma City bombing first, because that happened when I was just kind of like starting to pay attention to the world and it was like oh this, this is possible.
Yeah, next door building and destroy that building.
Yeah, one of the first bad news things.
I can remember that.
And yeah, oh yeah, fertilizer does this.
What do you mean it's like?
Yeah, it was a very strange event.
Um, oklahoma is the pot state or the pan state.
Yeah, it's a pan, it's got a pan handle.
Yeah yeah, sorry the handle.
Yeah, It's like right next to Texas and the flat part of Texas creates that handle.
It's probably the state I think about the least.
It's North Dakota or South Dakota for me that I think about the least.
I think about Fargo.
I think about hockey up there.
Yeah, the Badlands.
One of them has Mount Rushmore.
We constantly are doing that.
Right when we were moving to Denver, Steph had to spend a couple of weeks doing some training in Tulsa.
So she lived in Tulsa for about...
Almost two months.
She has some experience there.
Aren't that so cool?
It's fine.
That's the city motto.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Yeah, folks write in about a state or a region of the world that you barely think about.
That occasionally pops up in your head.
Tell me more about Vermont.
Vermont's amazing.
Is Vermont a state?
Yeah.
You're nuts.
I am.
You know Vermont is that, you know about Bernard Sanders.
Oh, oh, oh.
Okay, okay, okay.
I just associate him as just like this omnipotent being that I just want to hug.
The Holy Father.
He's that too, but he's also Senator Vermont.
Yeah, Vermont's dope.
There's everything.
Apparently Vermont has the best, I think Vermont has the longest life expectancy in the country.
Low bar, but yeah.
I think I respect Vermont because it took a while for it to be a state, even though it was surrounded by states.
I think, like, for a while, they're like, nah, we're good.
Like, they just wanted to be a country.
And I think eventually it was, like, peer pressure got to them or something.
I don't know.
Something like that.
When did it become a state?
Let's see here.
1981.
1981.
That's pretty early, actually.
But, like, it was, you know, it's right there with everybody.
It's right there with all the other.
Right.
Exactly.
There's something about Vermont.
It's up in the mix.
There's something about Vermont, like, holding on for a little bit.
It held out.
Yeah, it looks like the last of the original, because that was a 13 colony, right?
I believe so.
No?
No.
Vermont is not one of the 13.
Oh, I thought I would have lost that.
Oh, yeah, you're right, because it's the 14th state.
It wasn't.
It was the first state added, so yeah, that's it.
Even though it's like, yeah, it's just right there with everybody else.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
It's hanging on.
Yeah, yeah.
It's hanging on.
There are five states... that became states after the Nintendo Corporation started doing business.
Well, that was like 1890.
That was 1890-ish, yeah.
So, I mean, Alaska and... Alaska and Hawaii.
And Oklahoma wasn't a state until 1907.
Really?
Really?
It's the 46th state, yeah.
Really?
Was it just a part of something else?
What are the states that you're... Let's see, Oklahoma Territory and Indian Territory.
I don't know.
I'm not looking at the specifics.
I'm just looking at a list.
What are the four states after Oklahoma, guys?
Four states after Oklahoma.
Okay, the West Virginia split happened before that for sure.
Wyoming is two before.
That's 44.
What was New Mexico?
That is 47th, Mike, right after Oklahoma.
So then Arizona.
That's 48.
Eight.
Okay, then Alaska, Hawaii.
And then the last two are obvious, right?
Yeah, Alaska, Hawaii.
There we go.
Yep, that's right.
Let's go.
Animaniacs.
Yeah.
Good job, guys.
There you go.
I've had the Freakazoid theme song stuck in my head.
You like Freakazoid too?
I love Freakazoid.
I think that's one of my favorite cartoons.
It's great.
I liked Freakazoid, and then as time went on, it was like, oh, I like that way more than I realized.
Same thing.
That's why they only had two seasons, because all the kids didn't realize they liked it until it was canceled.
No, I realized back then, even then.
Remember the villain with his arms were always akimbo?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
His sidekick was just like that cop played by Ed Asner who would show up and be like hey, you want to go to the fair.
Hey, Freakazoid, you want to go to the fair?
Yeah, yeah.
Check out Baxter.
What's his name?
Baxter?
Check out Baxter Brackman.
Their computer ace was surfing on the internet, then got zapped in cyberspace.
He turned into a Freakazoid.
He's strong and super quick.
He drives the villains crazy because he's a lunatic.
Dexter Douglas.
That's it.
Thank you, Sun Guy.
Alright, last email of the show comes...
From Jacob.
Jacob, thank you for writing in.
And Jacob has prepared a quiz for us.
We also got another quiz, but I'm going to save that one for next week.
I hope it's not what were the last five states added to the United States.
That would be shit.
Such a bummer.
If you were to open a bagel-themed restaurant.
No, that's not what they're writing about.
Oh, I got an idea for you.
The other quiz we'll save next week when Dan is back from assignment.
But Jacob writes in as a fellow New Jersey resident to Jerf.
I'm sure he is aware of the dumb names our neighboring states have.
If he's on this week, please have Jerf answer last for these.
Particularly, Pennsylvania.
Here are groups of three town names, and you have to find the fake one.
Have fun.
Alright, first set of three.
Blue Ball.
Intercourse.
Foreplay.
So we're One of these is fake.
I think there is an intercourse.
No, Christian, I can't play Ark Raiders with you right now.
I got the invite too, Christian.
Clearly not listening.
I'm going to say foreplay.
I think foreplay is the one that's not real.
You are correct.
Foreplay is fake.
I'm just shit here.
I have no input.
No, you answer last.
That's what he said.
Got it.
Next group of three.
Big Dump, Bird in Hand, Rough and Ready.
Oh, this is tough.
Boy, Bird in Hand almost for sure.
I'm going to say, me too.
Bird in Hand sounds so much like one.
What was the first one again?
Big Dump.
Big Dump's got to be one.
I think it's that third one again.
What's the third one?
Rough and Ready.
I don't think there's a Rough and Ready.
What do you think, Beck?
Yeah, I agree.
I don't think there's a Rough and Ready.
All right.
The fake one is Big Dump.
Shit.
We were right about that.
Yeah.
All right.
The next group of three.
I don't know how to pronounce this.
Oh, Latitz, Brown's Hole, Virginville.
Which of those three?
Beg for the Brown Hole?
Is that what it said?
No, Brown's Hole.
Brown's Hole seems right.
I know Virginville is real because that's where you're from, listener.
Blap, blap.
La Tits, that's a joke from Celebrity Jeopardy.
I don't know if there's really a La Tits.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Wait, is La Tits real?
There was the La Petite.
Yeah, La Petite.
I'll take Ape Tit or something.
Ape Tit.
Oh, that was different.
Uh, maybe let's see.
That's a funny show.
I don't know if anyone ever said that it feels real.
Yeah, let's hit.
Might be real.
And where are the other two?
Again sorry, brown's hole, brown's holes, just brown's hole in virginville.
I feel like he got brown's hole because he saw a naked gun recently.
I bet brown's hole is not real.
I'm gonna say let's hit.
I'm between virginville.
I think that's just.
Yeah, you are, All of us are at some point.
We're on the Browns Hole Virginville spectrum.
We fall there somewhere.
Yep, I live right on the border.
The answer for the fake town is Browns Hole.
Let's go!
All right!
I knew it!
Couldn't fool me with your Brown Hole.
Shouts out to all my virgins out there.
All right, a couple more groups here.
The next grouping is Normalville.
Cake.
Pillow.
These are all very believable.
I guess pillow is dumb.
You know what?
You won me over.
I'm going with pillow.
In New Jersey, there's also so many.
I don't know half the town.
What was the first one again?
Normalville.
I'm going to go with Normalville.
Did anyone else roll?
I like control, but did anyone else roll their eyes when she's like I'm from a town called Ordinary and it's like yeah, I bet nothing ordinary happens there.
Yeah.
I was fine with it.
Of course.
Too much on the nose, sure.
All right.
Y'all's answer is Pillow and Normalville?
I said Normalville.
I'm Pillow.
Team Pillow.
Backlar?
Pillow.
The answer is Cake.
Oh, nobody thought it was Cake!
Is Pillow spelled... p-i-l-l-o-w or is there some weird like pillow like the pillow damn ass town cake i thought there would absolutely be a town named cake i mean why not of course there has to be a cake in the well maybe not yeah maybe not in pennsylvania um all right next one is next group is little kansas east texas jersey shore Why would there be a Jersey Shore in Pennsylvania?
If there's a town in Pennsylvania called Jersey Shore, I don't know what I'm going to do with myself.
I'm going to say East Texas because I believe in beautiful things like Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania.
Yeah, but although there could be a town, I guess, in the most eastern portion of Pennsylvania that would call itself Jersey Shore, because it butts up against, I guess, New Jersey,
So chaos is back on the menu, boys.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I feel like there might be a Jersey Shore.
The idea of East Texas does sound really stupid.
No, there's that kind of shit all over this dumbass country.
Sure, yeah, but this one I'm saying there isn't.
The mouthfeel is so bad.
There's like so many things that are so stupid.
I yield my time here.
I don't know.
I'm going to the E.T.
I'm going with E.T.
East Texas is fake as shit.
Okay, I'll get on that bandwagon.
Trick question.
All of those are real.
What the fuck?
I hate Pennsylvania more than I thought I could accept.
It's not another thing we have in common.
Jersey and Ohio is hating Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is just so unnecessary.
It's long.
It takes forever to drive through.
It's enormous and mostly forgettable.
I don't know.
It's funny because we have very different ideas of Pennsylvania, because the Pittsburgh side and the Philly side are so different.
I do love Pittsburgh.
I love the city of Pittsburgh.
Whoa.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
And you know what?
Philly, for the most part, is pretty cool, too.
I'm too clear.
I'm joking around.
No, I'm not.
Everything else we can just delete.
Just delete.
I still need to go to Gettysburg.
I could just drive and go to Gettysburg.
It'd be interesting.
I should do that.
That's what everyone is saying.
I got to go to Gettysburg.
Do you need the address?
Hang out with some union ghosts.
All right.
Let's see.
Four more groups here.
Let's speed through.
Next group is Fauxville, Shartlessville, Lickdale.
Lickdale?
Shirtlessville is just, come on.
Was it Shirtlessville or Shartlessville?
Shartlesville?
I thought it was shirtless, though.
I thought it was shirtless and it's like okay well, that's good, it's all on the money for PA.
I think I need Charlottesville.
What was the last one?
Lickdale.
I need Lickdale to exist by default.
Say that the first one wasn't real.
Whatever that was, I'll go with Lickdale.
Why not Lickdale?
The fake one is Fauxville.
Oh, that's the one I picked by default.
I win.
Pennsylvania is getting me mad here.
Next group is hazards, youth, climax.
I bet there's a climax.
Hazards.
Youth, Pennsylvania sounds right, actually.
It does sound right, but it sounds too right.
I'm going youth.
I'm going hazards.
I want there to be a hazard.
The answer is youth.
All right.
I'm starting to detect the pattern here in this game.
You are?
Yep.
Too late, but I am, I think.
All right.
Next one is Natty Glow, Peach Bottom, Down Dog.
Peach Bottom?
Can you even grow peaches in Pennsylvania?
Natty Glow is what my answer is.
I'm going to say Peach Bottom.
What's the other one?
Down Dog.
I'll say Down Dog.
Peach Bottom.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
None of the above.
None of the above.
I'm going none of the above.
Natty Glow.
The answer is Down Dog.
I thought I figured them out.
Two more here.
Second and last grouping is Broad Top Light Purple.
Grimes.
Grimes?
I'm going with light purple.
That's insane.
Yeah, light purple.
I love that.
Oh, my God.
Light purple is probably insane, but I love it.
No way.
I'll do the Mikey thing.
I'll say none of the above for this one.
The answer is light purple.
Wow.
Yeah, light purple is wild.
Come on.
I thought we lived in a beautiful world.
Somehow it was more unhinged than brown hole or whatever.
Light purple.
And then this one is specifically...
You may have the advantage here, Mr. Bacalar.
Jacob writes in, finishes off, and one New Jersey one, so I'm not just ragging on PA.
Buttsville.
Trash.
Purgatory.
Uh, boy, is there really a trash New Jersey?
There has to be.
You know, you can change names.
Be proud of it.
Uh, I'll go with Buttsville, because that one.
Of course there should be a Buttsville, but I'm going to say there's not.
Out of sympathy, I'm going to say Trash.
I don't know the answer.
I hope it's Trash.
Trash is the correct answer.
That'd be a bit much.
I'm going to start with Trash, New Jersey.
Come on.
Not even like Trash Town.
I can see Trash Town.
We take care of your trash in Trash Town.
Just Trash.
No way.
Very good.
I honestly could keep going, but don't want to eat up too much time.
Thanks for all the laughs, and congrats on Independence.
Thank you.
Love, Jacob P. from the mountains of New Jersey.
And once again, folks you at home can write in an email about any and everything bombcast at giantbombcom.
Mr. Minotti, any super chats delivered throughout the pod?
We do.
Just a few here, though.
This is how I found out about Dick Cheney dying was in Big Fish 37.
Said, heart goes out to grub today.
Can't be easy to lose a fellow member of the oops, I shot my friend in the face club.
Stay strong.
Big up the dick.
America lost its dick, and I'm so sad about it.
Alkavish says, off topic, but Grubb, what were the PC specs used for the Outer Worlds 2?
Quick look, love, ya all.
Yeah, I know that quick look looks a little chuggy.
I don't remember it looking like that when you were playing, though.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
It was.
Yeah, something must have gone wrong with the capture and I'm sorry for not getting that fixed.
It was right before we went out to the trip, everyone.
Yeah, we were trying to do it last minute.
I must have not double-checked the settings.
So yeah, the PC specs were fine, and it was running fine for us when we were looking at it.
And then Chris Quinn says, is Juiced Fruit Racing blight-worthy for a Mikey?
I don't know much about that game.
What the heck is that?
Juiced Fruit?
I think that's like a bad Switch kart racer.
I don't know.
I think I might have it.
Probably do much for that.
Fruit-themed?
Yes.
Resident Evil.
You could race as an apple in this game, I think.
Oh, not yet.
Like Richard Scarry?
Richard Scarry, that fucking worm?
Is there a Richard Scarry pinball board bacalar?
Nope, not yet.
Not yet.
They'll get there.
What can I be the fucking worm for Richard Scarry in Fortnite?
Give him a gun.
I want to see Arthur from PBS with a gun.
Arthur's about to be coming because they cut his funding, you know?
Yeah, that's right.
Oh, wow.
Is that a sign for the protest?
All right.
Thank you Mike, for reading all of those Super Chats and thank you, folks at home, for sending those along.
What do we got going on the rest of this week, boys?
We got Game Mess Mornings Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Yes.
Play Club tomorrow.
Going to be ever so slightly earlier in the day.
It is going to be right after Game Mess Mornings.
Right after Game Mess Mornings Thursday.
It looks like the dump truck is also going to be a tad early as well, just an hour earlier.
And then for Unprofessional Fridays, we have UPF
Fox hunt Fridays.
Uh, and then I think we may have a special guest for that.
Uh, folks, keep your peepers peeped for potential.
This is the run popping off.
We got to get some things sorted out.
So that uh may be up and down this week, but also, if you missed the giant bombathon, all of it is now on YouTube.
The archives are there in full.
If you want to catch the inter, uh, in between segment shenanigans, uh, as well as we have a bunch of breakouts of those cut out if you just want to revisit a specific portion of the Bombathon.
Hey, thanks to y'all for checking it out.
I really appreciate it.
I had a lot of fun.
I'm still recovering.
I'm not joking.
No, I should have said there's a lot of penis in that dispatch game.
I failed you, everybody.
Yeah, and there's a really funny sensor mode where the black bar just has to hover all around the screen because the penis is just everywhere.
It's great.
Is it like human or is it alien?
It's like a superhero green skin penis, but I didn't see the penis.
Is there either genitalia?
So this is not a dib game?
I think if you were on the sensor bar you'd have to see it, because it's kind of funny at that point.
But I'm imagining that is a portent that it probably deals with some spicier subject matters.
So I would say it's probably not a dib game.
Although I have not seen that myself.
Excuse me, you ignored my question.
Is there other genitalia?
Yeah, I was like, you mean other than penis?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's vaginas.
Wow, okay.
All right, well.
All right, well.
You know, I'll shut up.
I'll be on Dump Truck Thursday.
Bye.
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