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on friday welcome to bomb cast revengeance on march 14th 2025 happy pie day sean happy pie day nicky surprise if you go to your front door right now i ordered you both a lovely pizza pie i don't know why i was here buds i i'm tethered uh you're doubled by the way jay and i don't know know if you knew that oh wow i know that now thank you very much uh it was very easy when we were able to check microphones live but now i gotta get it right from the get -go but it's fine now welcome to bobcast for vengeance joining me gb kids uh the the ultimate formation uh of giant bomb the most agile arguably
the most um the the most malleable the most flexible group you can can just say the most virile well i mean that was gonna be the last thing i said but yes the most virile uh part of the crew here uh i'm your host janna choa joining me today nikki grayson hello and turbo sean sean mcdowell you're an honorary gb kid what i i assumed i was part of gb kids i mean like get to open and close the door on you whenever we feel yeah like in terms of the show you're not on this show but we're like no jan hangs he's young like yeah i'm like how many years older am i than like the oldest one of you uh well
we're roughly the same age so you're what three and a half years older than both of us oh now i do feel legit old oh my tongue hurts but that's not because i'm old um well happy okay fine fine fine uh i was gonna ask y 'all how y 'all all celebrate are planning to celebrate pi day but now i have no interest oh okay well i'll tell you anyway um i'm going to a party tonight which i'm like kind of dreading i went a lot the same party this happens every month this is a monthly party and it happens every month and last time i went i felt like it's relevant because of the the theme of the party the theme
of the party is like 2000s pop but because i am on the cusp of this of a generation because i was born in december of 95 which is effectively 96 like the the old young oldest youngest you can be while still being a millennial yes that is correct which puts me in a weird spot because then i have a sister who was was born in 2004 you have a sister uh -huh this whole time i have a sister who was born in 04 so like the my childhood yeah i feel like was very long and deeply influenced by gen z culture on account of the fact that i have a sister who was like firmly gen z anyway i went into this room
at this party and everyone in there was like older than you jian by like maybe like a year or two so So, like, in their, like, early to mid -30s.
One foot in the grave, you know?
Is this what it feels like to be Baccalar?
Just catching strays?
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Am I?
No. What's up? Am I the Baccalar of GB Kids?
Yes. You're not not the Baccalar of GB Kids.
I don't want to do this anymore.
Anyway, the party made me feel weird because everyone in there was old and I felt like a baby in there, which was crazy because I'm almost 30.
Yeah. So I'm going again today to see if it still feels like that, and if it does, then I won't go again.
Do they have fun snacks at the party?
No, of course not. It's at a bar called El Cid in Silver Lake, so that's where I'll be.
Not to blow up my own fucking spot.
spot um wait didn't you say this whole shebang was themed oh yeah it's it's like pop girly themed is like it's a queer pop girly themed party um but now i'm like do i gotta like do i gotta because i went out yesterday also and now i'm tired i mean you have plenty of time to nap between later today and then and that might be enough to recharge your batteries.
I guess. Perhaps. We'll see.
Because I could go to a happy hour after work, you know?
That's true. That's true.
And then I would lose the recharge time.
Great. Paul is Nikki washed.
Yes. The answer is yes.
I need to be so clear.
I understand. My neck still hurts.
I slept on my neck wrong last week week on monday and it hurts today on friday yeah that happened to me a couple of weeks back i slept wrong in my back i was like hunched over all day like the oldest person on earth i understand and sean i feel like it doesn't help because you are very tall so i assume you're like bones like have more space to hurt yeah more space to hurt i suppose but you see they're strong because calcium Because milk, y 'all can get fucked.
Okay, that's true, that's true.
Here we are on the left coast just drinking oat milk.
And I have no idea if that has much vitamin D.
It doesn't. I think it's actually, like nutritionally, I think oat milk is not good for you.
Because I think it's mostly sugar.
What about soy milk?
Well, you know what that does, Jan. Right, right, right, right.
It turns you into a woman.
Yeah, it gives you vagina bones, yeah.
gives you vagina bones jan well i mean wouldn't that make me technically stronger than because then i have more bones you think it grows the no because like i'm thinking like okay what you know like let's let's let's fortify the area yes load -bearing vagina bones right that's what the weebs are into yes i think this is uh gonna be my old man speech for this podcast because i'm coming to terms with uh my life and your mortality the fragility of it uh after talking to you two for like five minutes um you brought this up no i know i wanted to know how you both were doing uh please make this a thing
and this goes to everyone out there if you are under the age of 35 and you are like going to a party or you're throwing a party just start having food there please like i agree like food and water you can have as much alcohol or other substances you want have your board games bring your card games uh if you want to play smash on the tv sure but just have some type of like hydrating things i actually i am deeply in favor of this opinion jane if you are throwing a party at a venue that has an outdoor space you then have enough space for a taco man and not having a taco man at the function is actually
if you think about it homophobic transphobic and racist and it's classist also because you say as the party host that you don't value small business enough to support and share the wealth and spread the wealth to feed the to feed the freaking free the folks okay i know that we've come up with like a lot of uh zany ideas for keely's summer birthday and then his winter birthday okay um and now i'm on the email chain with glam bot uh because of nicky yeah yeah i was thinking of email is very confused like why are why is nicky okay right right yes me you said i want a glam bot on and then what did
i do i got them in touch no that's what i'm saying because nikki opened the door to get the shit done exactly and we weren't able to get the hot dog roller going during the awards yeah because of the government because of the government but if we wind up doing uh gb at night in a similar location that has like an outdoor part as we did last year we should have have a taco man this time we're also gonna get sean uh in in there this time crucially that'd be nice someone has to hold the leaf blowers um we i think we should get a taco dude i think we gotta get a taco man why would we get a taco man it
doesn't make any sense to not just have a taco man at our thing because very critically it's la and i've said this a million times yes exactly It's fucking Los Angeles.
The number of times people come to this great city and they say everything fucking sucks here because they go to the worst parts of the town.
It's like going to New York City and saying, well, everything that I have to do happens on 34th and 6th or whatever fucking Times Square is that it's like, yeah, dog, you're going to think it fucking blows is the it is the worst place in the world because it is.
What what is like the best part of L .A.?
anywhere else oh okay um not this this will make some friends of the site upset but i don't think hollywood is hollywood fucking blows okay hollywood sucks i like where la sucks i like where nicky is at i love where i'm at northeast la is lovely there are parts of the valley that if you get into a situation where you're like i love to be sleepy if you're the kind of person who says i'm i'm gonna go out but i'm going to be in bed by 10 30 the valley like the valley is for you and i actually love that about the valley um koreatown i enjoy for the most koreatown is great if you don't live there i
would never live in koreatown but going to and leaving koreatown huge yes beverly grove is nice it's just really ritzy it's pricey i used to live over there and then got priced out after the pandemic um the west side is kind of a dead zone i think the west side is culturally bereft and depresso town where were we when we did uh secret santa shopping when that was little tokyo so little that there's a there's a little chunk of downtown la that is fine like the arts district is ritzy and too much money and gentrification to fuck but like it is is nice over there and then little tokyo which like
juts up against um the arts district those those little necks of the woods are fine but then like as soon as you get over to la live then it's like it's just fucking times square it's just times square but worse somehow there's not even a big toys r us what's the point right there's no olive garden in either i'm assuming no there's just there's that well they're they do have that southern place that we ate at which which was all right.
Oh, yeah, that was the hard but the hard, right?
Yes, yes. The hard Kool -Aid.
Always love when hard Kool -Aid is an option.
Have y 'all been playing anything?
I have a couple. Who wants to go first?
Well, you you brought something to the class.
Yeah, you have a show and tell.
Oh, I just have been talking a lot.
Well, OK, people like that, though it's a podcast. Yes.
okay great um the fine folks over at cmyk games makers of monikers is that true let me look it up while you we are checking we are checking games view all yes they did make monikers okay okay okay so the makers of monikers wavelength the fuzzies which is like jenga except they're like um it's like jenga except they're soft pom -poms and you are pulling them off to try to not have them fall over which is delightful um they make a game a game called daybreak which is really cool i've heard people talk about wavelength you've almost certainly heard of um it's also an app on your phone okay they have a board
game adaptation of wilmot's warehouse which i have Oh, and have not played, but they just came out with a new collection of games called Magenta, and there's four games in the collection.
There's Fruit Fight, which looks like this.
Whoa, the box of Magenta.
Yes, there's Fruit Fight.
There's Duos. There is Fives.
Oh, Duos just fell.
There's Fives, and there's Figment, and they are all really quick to pick up, easy to learn how to play um card games um with like delightful beautiful art i really think um and i reached out because i was like oh these things seem really cool and i would like to play them and then they were kind enough to send me the collection um and i so far have only played fruit fight because it requires the least number of people okay um it fig uh fruit fight is two to five so i was playing it it with a friend and then um oh i've actually just learned that figment i can play by myself so i'll play figment
later that's exciting the solitaire of board games the solitaire of board games figment is one to six players fives is three to four players and duos is i think uh four to six players duos isn't two i don't think that's a spoiler well that's not going on yeah because it needs because it needs um it's duos because it's teams it's two teams of two oh okay oh that makes sense yeah yeah i the one that i have played is fruit fight and i've played it a bunch it's really good it's a push your luck game where you all you do is you draw cards on each turn and each of the cards has a fruit on it and then
a point value um so like the strawberry Berry is worth 10 points and then the cherries are worth 2 points what if they're not in season though it doesn't matter it's an American grocery store that doesn't matter either Nicky it's increasingly mattering less and all you do is you draw and your goal is to get the biggest number but the second you hit the same card 2 times you bust so you're trying to get the number as high as possible when you're done you end your turn the next person next to you goes or the next person in the game goes and if they draw so say I have like a peach right the person if they
draw a peach they can pull every single peach off of the board and claim it for themselves but then they can either stop their turn there or if they they pull again and they pull a peach then they lose the entire hand and so basically fruit fight this is fruit fight yes um it's really low stakes high stakes stuff which i really appreciate like you're not it's not complicated there are not very many systems that you need to pay attention to um but it really does get intense because it's like am i going to just kind of go crazy and try to burn this deck in an effort to be like i'm just going to
keep pulling and keep pulling and keep pulling and keep pulling or am i going to like try to play it strategically am i looking at the board to try to determine how many cards are left in the deck because there is a card counting element because the fewer cards there are sorry the higher the card value the fewer cards there are in the deck so there's more one value cards than there are 10 value cards um Um, it's really fucking fun.
Like I, it's so, so, so much fun.
Um, and all of these games have, um, have really great tutorials on YouTube.
There's a QR code in the instruction manual.
Okay. That's good. Cause that can be one of the hardest, which is so great because it's yeah.
Really deeply. It is like, they are five to six minute long videos better than a person reading the instruction manual.
The instructions are great, but it's like, no, like obviously it's going to be better or if a person, a person who's an expert at the game explains the game to you.
Yeah, they just show you how to play it because that's how you want to play.
Yeah. And those videos are great because they are, they are like, here are mistakes that we found people were making in play testing that were making people have a bad time.
And then the video is like, don't do these things.
Like your natural inclination will be to do this, but don't because it's going to make it not fun.
And I was like, yeah, that's fucking huge.
Like, I really, really appreciate that.
that um so i'm excited to crack in to more of these i'm gonna bring at least figment and duos to gdc next week jan and maybe we can play them on a on an in -person oop if or something um but yeah that's that's what i brought this week uh is the magenta collection from cmyk nice uh i know that we don't normally talk about news but oh huge breaking breaking not quite breaking i don't know why my mic keeps blowing up uh not quite breaking but uh this was news to me this this bro uh a friend shared this with me because i was notorious for this but the uno company confirms that you cannot stack a draw
two on each draw two what do they know they make the game nikki it's not fun but why would you not be able to it's the same card same card right for folks unfamiliar with Uno go play a game of Uno I'm not going to explain that $6 gang yeah but it comes with your Xbox I was of the understanding that if someone draws or puts down a plus two and I have one I should be able to let that stack because ultimately that messes with whoever is at the the end of that plus two trade um right okay cool now do y 'all think you should be able to stack a plus four wild no i think so i think so because it is it
counts as a wild and it's the same card so that almost double counts but does yeah no you're right you're right yeah but who gets to a chain who gets to determine the color is it the is it the last person in the thing the last person in the chain yeah so the person who gets hit with the plus four or the plus eight or plus 12 or whatever they get to pick or the last person to put it down gets to pick last person that puts down the last wild got it yeah yeah because you can play a wild on anything right yes that's like that's the point and so why would you not be able to do you play it i would the first
time when i was in college the first time i played uno in public had me fucked up because these white people had new rules um they were like they always do nicky they always fucking do they were like you have to if you have a wild in your hand you cannot elect to draw instead of playing it is what they told me wait say that again so if you if there's a green on the board yeah right but I have a wild plus four but I don't want to play it yet I would prefer to draw and hold the wild plus four they said that that was not allowed no you should I think you should be able to hold on to the wild yeah
I agree yeah that's a because that you know I'm bringing my tcg knowledge here uh if hand the hand is not public knowledge then you can't enforce anything that someone rules upon the hand yeah yeah because because then you're you're kind of giving your hand exactly exactly you're holding on to that thing because that's it's the strongest card in the deck so the idea that i would blow it early when i could use it to win the game is kind of nuts to in me yeah you're putting yourself at disadvantage in order to potentially do better later it's risk reward yeah yeah yeah you should be allowed to play
the games however you want i'm glad that the three of us are on the right side of history uh of course yeah nothing better than it exactly speaking of the right side history is the wrong side of history jan would you like to talk about it um are we talking about the thing you saw me pull up yeah yeah okay uh shout out to uh uh Wizards?
Wizards of the Coast?
Yeah, that's what they are.
Because I was sent and I received a foundations box for Magic the Gathering.
It's a beginner box here.
It's still sealed. Comes with two instant play decks to learn to play guides and eight jumpstart decks and more.
I haven't opened it yet because I thought, oh, I should open this on content.
okay uh but i don't know which not this content okay i'll put it back down you talked about a card game different yeah my card game is cool both of you talked about card games just now um what what about that he's he's like a lion man you don't even care he's like leomon huh who cares all right well there should be cigarettes in that box yes it's a big you know what jay magic is good for you open the magic um but uh uh yeah shouts out to wizard of the coast i'm excited to pop into that uh the problem is i don't have anyone in my like immediate circles that i hang out with on a frequent basis that that play
magic. You do not live far from blessing.
Yeah, hanging out with the kind of funny people.
That's true. Blessing is getting everyone into it.
You literally know where blessing lives and blessing is a magic influencer now.
Yeah. Yes, yes. I know where blessing lives and I know where blessing works.
And I know where he sleeps.
So if you wanted to take down blessing and play Magic the Gathering with him, I think that's possible.
I don't think that's difficult.
That's true. uh matthew rory did message me and did want to to hang out and play magic the gathering you've got so many people in your corner yeah i think if you if you if you open this deck by the time i get there on wednesday next week uh -huh i think you and i can set up a card table at the moscone center and you'll get one of those fucking nerds to play magic the gathering with you someone's carrying their deck with them oh and they'll miss their talk to play match of the gathering man i was looking i was looking at the calendar i was like wait a second when does the final fantasy magic stuff
come out the week after sgf what the hell is this wow that's annoying why would they do that that feels intentional but okay send us some then we'll have it early i assume we So actually, we've always loved Magic the Gathering here at giantbomb .com.
We've never said anything bad about it.
Oh no, I've never had a problem with magic.
I had a problem with Jay getting into magic.
I'm more of a dual masters kind of guy.
I also did like the swipe and then all the cards went into defense mode.
But I don't know what that is in dual masters or whatever.
Dual masters is weird. I don't even realize how bad it was.
had a I had a like it was the screen was just a big tamagotchi screen but it was a dual masters like child's pda and I could store like emails it had like an address book and a notes document and it had like the shittiest keys you've ever seen in your life and then it was also supposed to be able to like track your cards and your it was also a big calculator to track your like life points and damage and stuff i wonder if i can find it on the internet um probably but they should bring that shit back y 'all ever have one of the yu -gi -oh dual discs in real life no one so bad my mom said you don't
you can't have one because she didn't love me um no it's they were fucking expensive yeah my mom said it was really expensive 60 what are you talking about yeah they were really plastic and like they also it was if you were trying to play yugioh about it because Because in my brain, I was like, oh, I'll just go to school and play Yu -Gi -Oh like this.
But nobody else can see the cards.
Yeah, it's so bad for actually playing Yu -Gi -Oh.
Yeah. But my rich friend had them growing up.
So we absolutely just like, you know, you walk around and then you like reload your arm and it comes out.
It's great. That's awesome.
It's really cool. They should have made that.
Remember in the anime when the first iteration of the dual disc, which was a circle attached to another circle.
It was a yo -yo. Oh, yeah, the yo -yo.
Yeah. why didn't they make that one they should have made that one for kids because that was a really bad design no no no no just to skip it except it was a child throwing the other end of the skip it it's a really good idea i think yeah with their hundred dollar yugioh card i was an idiot no yeah i didn't know what the fuck he was doing i don't want to say is is kaiba elon adjacent because that would be besmirching kaiba because Because he kind of has moments.
But he also has pretty dumb moments.
He has some pretty dumb moments.
Remember when he stood on the edge of the castle and was like, what are you going to do?
Kill me? And Yugi's like, I kind of want to.
Yeah, I could. My friends are right there.
Sorry, chat's asking about dungeon dice monsters.
I did have the physical version of dungeon dice monsters.
But I don't think I ever played it with anybody because nobody wanted to play it with me.
so I just kind of played it with myself which was a frequent occurrence it wasn't very fun even by myself it was crazy to say um real quick about Magic the Gathering yes everyone has been very kind as to offering offering me tips and how to get acclimated to the game I do think we may have to do some Magic the Gathering content because can y 'all explain or understand why it seems to be taking over games media it always had been yeah but they're all and now it's just people are louder about it this is like when people were like oh I can't believe what's happening on video games twitter it turns
into wrestling twitter like 10 years ago everyone's like oh what's happening it's the same circle astronaut with the gun always has been yeah always has been i think people are just loud about it now right right same thing happened with f1 i feel like games media got really into basketball for a second as well that's true they did drop basketball in favor of formula one yes yes formula one ultimately won that race but um i'm curious to see what uh look can we get our own magic cards like as in like us us and everything us you can print whatever you want yeah well it's paper dog there we go um
i do blame emma fife though this is emma fife's fault because emma needed someone to go with her to an appointment at summer game fest not last year but i think two years ago and i was like yeah sure i'll tag along with you what is it and she says it's magic the gathering for the longest time i had kind of poo -pooed on the franchise and also it was a double whammy because they were showing off the lord of the rings set where i had also long time poo -pooed uh but after talking with the art director um and then watching the game be played i'm like oh i get it now oh these hobbits want second breakfast
i love the idea of second breakfast what if i went back to mcdonald's and got a sausage mcmuffin this time with an egg whoa mix it up exactly and then peel it off despite ordering it like dan does that's so fucking crazy two dollars yeah exactly it's just way cheaper to not order it that way just imagine the egg is there because that's what he's basically doing already do you think he likes the residue like he likes no that's that's his logic his his logic is that he likes the essence of the egg on the mcmuffin the lacroix of mcmuffin yes the LaCroix of McMuffins.
Speaking of LaCroix...
Do you have more in Magic the Gathering?
Yeah, I was going to say that.
Yeah, I'm wondering.
How is this whole thing going?
I have a really stupid question.
Please, stupid question first. Are all of the cards in these foundations boxes the same?
Or is it random in there?
I actually have no idea.
Is that the same...
If I went to Target right now and got that, do I get the same cards in there?
If it's pre -constructed decks, they come with the same thing.
Okay. Yes. yes i would i would assume yeah only only packs are randomized packs are the only ones that are okay yeah which sometimes you know packs come in a box or mix and match but i don't know as much about magic to tell you which products do that yeah um jacob decker a couple years ago bought i guess two years ago bought a draft box for lord of the rings and we were supposed to do an office uh magic the gathering draft with everyone that was there and due to schedules it never happened but then jake comes to me yesterday and was like i think now we got to make it happen lessen's down snow
black mike's down we have an overhead camera you're here you're down and it's like okay okay jake i don't know what how a draft works but i'll do it um well vietnam but i i know who's ultimately on the right side and it isn't me baby um la croix la croix la croix they have a soda now a cola flavored la croix oh no i don't know this is like when dan was like there's cola flavored liquid death i'm like that's just cola dan is watered down cola i haven't had it yet oh yeah because i can't i don't know where to to buy it okay i've tried two targets and made neither of them have had it and i think
actually that's as far as i'll go like i'm not gonna really try any harder but i was going to ask if you think and i now i understand where you're where you're both standing how you feel about cola flavored sparkling water very critically it doesn't have sweetener in it like at all then what is the flavor yeah like half of cola is the sugar or the artificial sweetener yes but this one doesn't have sugar in it or sucralose or splenda or whatever the fuck yeah doesn't have any of that should I keep trying I already again I've already kind of resent myself to not finding it I think that's helpful
that's helpful thanks sean if you if you find yourself by a liquor store that you don't normally frequent yeah maybe it could be there yeah yeah okay i'll pop in there uh sean have been playing anything yeah okay the big one was well i i'm like how much can i talk about that one not very much so i'm not gonna bring it up um i played that sonic unleashed decompilation recompilation recompilation if you're doing that uh the the upper portion janet's sonic unleashed recompiled i messed up the first time um this is an interesting one mostly because i bought a modded xbox 360 so i could play xbox 360
games are not easily accessible and then a bunch of really smart people said yeah but what if we made a tool that just allowed you to port 360 games to pc i was like cool glad i could be the scapegoat here glad i'm you know there's always a sacrifice usually it's mike manatee buying something and then it gets put on the e -shop for five bucks uh this time it's me buying a hard mod 360 and now we have a tool that lets really smart people just pull that shit on pc so you're welcome you're welcome um this is really cool decompilation recompilation all that stuff uh you know i won't get into the exact
specifics but basically it It allows people to take a game, reverse engineer it to get source code or, like, close to source code, and then you can port that to our platform.
So, like, with this, they're porting the Xbox 360 game to PC, and that's really cool because that means that you can have it natively run, high resolutions, high frame rates.
You can make it look better.
It's easy to mod just like, you know, a PC game would.
They even have, like, a new menu for it where it just has a PC settings list, and that's really cool because, yeah, I can just run it at 4K, 60, with even better shadows and motion blur and everything like that because it's just a PC game now.
It just happened to release in, what, 2008 or whatever.
Now, Sonic Unleashed is not a very good game.
I was going to ask.
They picked that one because there's not a great way to play it on PC because 360 emulation isn't quite there yet.
PS3 emulation, ironically, is better, but the ps3 version is also kind of but so you don't necessarily want to use that one unless you crank the resolution and everything that's harder to do on an emulator so they're like all right sonic fans here we go we got this now uh it's like have y 'all ever played unleashed before uh yeah briefly and then i said i don't think this is good yes yeah that's the right reaction to have because you play see you're fired up it has a really nice high budget cut scene that goes on a little too long yes but then you get to us you know playing the game and the daytime
stages are very fun and sonic moves really fast and you know he's like homing attacking all over the place and it's just a blast of a roller coaster ride and then he gets turned into a werehog and you have to trudge around a boring god of war clone not even that bad really because like it it's functionally fine it's just not what you want in a sonic game so it was a wild they've said for a long time that the problem with sonic in 3d is you go buy everything so fast it's like well why are we modeling this shit so that's how they slowed them down with the werehog stages that take half an hour each
sometimes it's half an hour bad yeah Yeah.
Listen, too slow. Is there a good Sonic game?
Yes. Which one? Like half of them.
Are good? Yeah. All of the GBA Sonics are very good.
The Genesis games, the GBA games, the DS games, Generations, Colors.
Sonic Rush is good.
Colors is good. Frontiers.
Yeah. Frontiers. Everything else is middling to bad.
and that's why it gets the reputation of being bad just like us yeah just like us um what i want to see though is that uh that that's mainline chat calm down chats like you know at one person one time said sock is bad now that's all the hive mind can repeat over and over sonic boom rise of lyric yeah that's a bad one sock oh six it's a bad game you know this game mostly bad like yeah there's some bad games i'm not saying it's like a great series or anything but yeah sock mania it's good one i came across someone streaming sonic adventures no no sonic 06 because silver was there um and their whole
like demeanor about them i can't quite put a finger on it but you could just tell oh if you weren't playing sonic i could tell you were a sonic fan though oh yeah yeah look i ain't here to defend sonic fans either trust me as a sonic fan i ain't here defense sonic fans it's very big of you thank you thank you thank you uh what i want to see is i want to see an unleashed mod since it's basically a pc game now to just strip out the bad shit so like what if sonic unleashed the bad levels but it was just the fun levels sure it's only like an hour long at that point but hey a good hour should be an hour
long a good hour i'll take that over mediocre 14 or whatever you know for sure yeah uh that's that's fantastic sean speaking about something that has been uh recompiled uh this has been we've we've chatted about this very loosely around the website uh but i finally downloaded and got up and running thug pro oh hell yeah wow for those not in the know thug pro is uh sean would you say it's like a modded uh version of thug that combines thug thug one yeah i don't know the specifics of it because i actually learned about when grub brought up the other week i i think it's like a mod of the pc version is what it
is yes yeah it's a it's a mod and a crack of the pc version yeah um but i i own both games so don't come at me yeah tony's tony was about to knock on your door and that would have been sick for you that would have been fucking awesome for you but now he's leaving he would have sold you his cholesterol medication because you're old he would give you a sick high five okay but now not i needed that sick high five to get me through the rest of the day but anyway thug pro um it also has multiplayer it's it's and so you enter an instance much like you would with like your friends locally um and let
me tell y 'all i thought i was pretty tricky with a stick when it came to uh tony hawk games i thought i was very good at it and then i saw someone flying around the map much like someone flies around the map with an insect glaive in monster hunter where you are so used to your um how how physics and how the world works when you are kind of in the zone with how you perceive the game and then you see someone with the same tool set has defied physics in such a way within the confines in the same sandbox as you and you have no clue how they are doing it yeah they never stopped playing it yes yes they
never stopped playing it because I saw someone hit a corner and they were grinding towards the corner or a wall and then they wall plant which is when you are about to hit a wall you hit X or bottom button to jump off of it this person wall plants off of it the wall they're heading into and then somehow adds a little bit of juice to it so they spin to the other wall that would have been the corner wall plant off that and then i guess they had jango fett's jet pack move yeah why not just jet pack away wall plant again and for the thing is in thug you can get off your board and like do some loose
parkour this person didn't need that at all um and then I see them like wall right up a wall get on top of the building and then what I thought was an invisible wall they jumped towards it doing a grab move and I don't think they did a trick I think they just bounced off the invisible wall because they knew where it was because they knew where it was and they knew if they hit it from a certain angle it would not like stop their movement and absorb the impact back it would just shoot them off and then they continued doing their combo away from me and then i i kind of wanted to stop playing the game
yeah no for sure people who know how video games work are sick yes feast of violet puts it perfectly tony hawk is like if belatro was a platformer uh yes sean uh do y 'all play tony hawk with an analog stick or d -pad oh i'm so happy we could come to this great question um primarily the d -pad but i am okay playing it with the stick okay nicky i don't like these games i like skate this is as far back as i can go what i like skate more i like skate more nice nicky skate feels better gang i don't know what to tell you no i don't know if it feels better it feels different yeah it's like it's like putting
on like a sweater when you want to put on like a starter jacket comparing crash and spyro like they don't need to be compared they're different things i i'm excited for three plus four i need to grab one plus two these games i didn't have have them when i was a kid they were like were not okay in my my oeuvre when i was watching x games at the time i was amped about street luge i was not watching skateboarding that's you know um that kind of proves my point though that kind of proves my point because you're all analog stick because i am analog stick yeah that's the divide between the youngs and the olds
because did you first play towing ox pro skater on the ps1 where there was no analog sticks with the controller you might have had or did you play it on like ps2 or uh gamecube first where it was by default that's why the analog stick that's analog stick is the right way to go there's more tricks there um yeah i'm sorry that broke my brain but i do okay no the thing is i also enjoy skate and the people that have stayed playing skate are also insane yeah um i i saw a video like Like, I forgot that hippie flips were a thing that they added in three.
Three. And for folks that don't know, a hippie flip is kind of when you are you're going through a rail and you jump over it while your skateboard is still skating underneath the rail or through the little gap there.
That's always a fun time.
Oh, well, you know what?
Tony Hawk said the skating community was the most inclusive.
So we're not going to we're not going to hate.
We're going to embrace it.
everyone we're gonna embrace you talking about a different game i like anthony hawk i like what he does i like his work his blood i was in the building when danny brown fell 150 feet out of the air on the mega ramp that was cool it wasn't cool i thought i watched a man die oh can we watch that video right now there's another slot can we no can we watch it please no no please please link it and then maybe we'll do it after the quick okay Christ Danny Brown falls mega ramp sorry Jake Brown oh okay I was like why is Danny Brown on his skin oh no sorry Jake Brown it's been a long time since I thought
about it anyway we're all going to watch it right now it's it's pretty good actually it's a great video nothing bad happens really uh all right well let's just do yeah okay i need everybody to understand he's fine i'm gonna preface it by saying he's okay he's fine his arms up he's fine he's fine nikki this video says skateboarder jake brown in freefall anytime freefall is like like brought up i don't think people are fine he's fine he's okay no bad happened to him in the long reaching future after this now in the immediate aftermath was it good for him no i think after most accidents in the aftermath
you are not okay Sean I'm gonna ask you to describe what we're seeing for the folks at home you want me to watch it again yeah okay man goes down a ramp man flies up the half pipe portion of the ramp man loses everything is flailing hits the ground so hard his helmet flies off and his shoes but the way the video is cut two seconds later arms in the air he's like yeah i did it i don't know what i did if i did something now he was down for quite a while his helmet flew off before he hit the ground yeah he walks away he's fine okay you know what if i pause this video as he's midair jake never falls
he never falls he's still up there he's still up we just we just we just made another spoke in history all right yeah oh you know i i've been playing some crazy taxi let's talk about that let's change subject video people see that on my tv in the background how's crazy tax man economy remember when games are fun barely actually yeah it's been a while uh crazy taxi takes me back to a simpler time where it It was just arcadey fun.
You pop a quarter in, the dude's like, hey, hey, come on over.
And you like, you know, pick your car and drive her.
My mom told me to ignore those people.
That's probably right.
Crazy Taxi's a ton of fun because it's just, it's so pure.
It's just arcadey goodness, you know?
You hop in the car.
You go backwards first, because that person will take you all the way to Bottom of the Hill, pro tip.
and then uh you just do laps around the city around what not san francisco picking people up and just trying to get the best run and so that's what i've been doing is um i need to kill like 15 minutes i'll just do a crazy taxi run because i'm like you know preheating the oven or whatever i gotta do that night ah the vibes are just immaculate especially now we're starting to to get into warm well y 'all always have warm weather when we over here it is 45 degrees outside right now that's messed up because it's like 50 here yeah no it's it's fucked up it is cold it should not be as cold in la as in northeast
wisconsin yeah i do be thinking the climate maybe a little no no show me the science what is i i fucking love crazy taxi what is the the the there's a stand there's another stand -up cabinet with steering wheel except it's a safari one yeah i also think it's a sega joint yeah yeah i forget what's that one called i'm i don't know wild safari or something but yeah they have safari one and like a firefighter one that nobody remembers because everyone just remembers crazy taxi probably because crazy taxi the best one it's the one that fits the like wild driving formula or whatever the best oh jambo
safari thank you merlin jambo jambo safari feature you're gonna play the whole game we're trying to fill out the power block jam you know what okay i'm looking at this now jambo safari yeah yeah yeah yeah uh okay all right yeah let's do this there you go what it's really short it's good good um it's like crazy taxi except you have to catch a zebra games used to be cool games used to be so cool uh anyways i'm trying to get better back to where i once was a crazy taxi my best run is a little over nine thousand dollars so wow try to get there and that comes out of the dreamcast right when you're
when you're done oh yeah the cash cash money yeah yeah yeah so i get he'll do a check oh my god i need to get into jambo safari right the game whips yeah they we had a stand -up uh cabinet of this in america yeah there's one at the bar near my house okay all right well we can go we can go during sgf yeah oh yeah that it's been well since i've seen that's just a crazy taxi cabinet that they added yes that's yeah yeah it's the exact same cabinet yeah um no i am deeply trying to get everyone to come to my house for sgf i'm trying to get us to go to the pinball bar by my house and then i'm trying to
get us to go to the arcade bar also by my house i live at a in a really good triangle of our collective interests the coffee place a little bit further away was that is a little further away the the place with the bad onion rings i can take everybody there i've always had bad onion rings yeah that was that was nice the the clothing store next door was was fun ladies yes uh man jambo safari looks like nintendo was like well we have all this tech from the fishing game and this taxi game what if we did post Nintendo did that oh sorry Sega Sega they made a DS version hold the fucking phone of Jambo
Safari oh wow it's four weeks long Animal Week Animal Week Animal Week hold on Zoo Tycoon for the Xbox one Connectimals yes Jambo Safari yeah sick of bass fishing okay that's an animal yes yeah uh and then we play smackdown here comes the pain as dave batista the animal the animal that's it that's fine there we go oh starfox is good yeah you know what sean yes it's time yeah starfox adventures though because there's more animals in that and you talk to them more um what if we do on the other ones uh tokyo jungle actually nicky um maybe in like a week or two we're gonna play starfox assault all
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kind of piece it together for so long like nikki's playing the we yeah he is overthrowing the government with mike i can't i couldn't figure it out okay If I'm going to trust two people to politely do it, it's going to be Nikki and Mike.
Nikki's just going to go behind the velvet rope, and then Mike is going to be like, Oh no, Nikki, no, don't do that.
Oh, okay. That's your Mike Bonatti.
No, hold up, that's your Mike Bonatti.
Oh no, Nikki, no, now we have to, I guess I'll have to overthrow the government now.
That's just a South Park character.
I couldn't tell you who, but Jan. i'm listen i'm very good at voices all right i have that uh maybe a kermit yeah you're lucy is very good yeah oh yeah my lucy is very good uh people keep accusing me of being dr game facts but it's him and i have never been in the same stream you're in the same room yeah exactly uh anyway we i guess grubb came up with this topic but grubb is a uh preoccupado right now so we're going to uh do the mount rushmore of co -op games i almost typed mr rushmore and that's something very different i've learned yeah it's yeah i'm gonna say while we're getting started that please
suggest things in chat because i did not prepare for this one because i think i was doing it uh yes because i assume i i thought since grubb came came up with a topic it'd be here but it's okay it's okay it's okay we talked about it last night there's very important things happening okay uh so folks please drop in your suggestions I'm gonna try and look at all the other chats that's right you too YouTube we're gonna look at you as can you use the ask a question button about it chat yes instead please I guess um all right I'm going to look at the YouTube chat as well okay do we have the Excel stream
sheet up, because I already have some in my brain we're just waiting on you oh I need to come up with a shoot Excel sheet Nicky can you make it and then link it yeah absolutely no worries sheets well now it's time for things I bought at everyone remember that remember that classic classic best oop games you don't remember things i bought at sheets things are you a macaroid boy or no were you off that train oh well that's why you don't remember it it's not a good or a bad thing it's just why you don't remember it what hey restream what if i want to see all of the chats what about that oh you pulled
them up individually jay and that's why i do every day oh why did hey you know what's what's the point of clicking share this link if it doesn't actually give anybody access okay it's in this it's in slack gin copy copy thank you very much nikki you can start occupying that while i get yeah i will thank you halo oh i'm seeing some good suggestions from people okay yeah where are we starting nikki talk this out crash castle crashers battle block theater halo reach is the one you're going with huh um that's the one i have the most fond memories of personally but i will take any okay now very critically
on the list it's not best it's uh jeff grubbs signature mount rushmore slightly different slightly different emblematic emblematic of what co -op is rushed more yeah more sword okay well then i'll put halo 2 on there uh jeff grubbs game mess in the youtube chat is asking if we read the youtube comments no no stop asking stop asking uh i like tmnt arcade i think that's good call you're that or simpsons yeah oh uh the lego star wars games lego star do we have to pick should we just put the skywalker saga because that's all of them well skywalker saga i don't what's the first one multiplayer oh that's
huge huh really i pretty sure lego start before lego elgo star war okay it's on the list okay uh portal 2 oh duh obviously i put portal 1 and i deleted it that just says one there we go overcooked it's called yeah i was about is it called overcooked it's called overcooked yeah i think about overcooked is that i don't think it's very good wow no you know what i'm kind of with you but i really don't think it's good um i don't like games that promote yelling i think there are so many better ways at all it like the and i'm fine actually if it ends up on the list because there are so many people who do
love it but i would prefer i would rather us put moving out on there over overcooked okay yeah sean is it because you're the one who always gets yelled at yes is that because i get bored and i don't think it's very fun yes and i check out because i want to do something else yes yes uh what about left for dead i was gonna say okay now is it are we putting the first one of the second one i think the first yeah first one like okay more memorable cast right yeah yeah no i don't know i don't i don't know any of the fucking guys in i don't know their name i don't remember their name that's that's why
i give it to one by default because i don't really don't care about the people i just think it's fun i'm putting rock band on here yeah i'm putting oh this is uh four swords adventures okay on here um let's see okay i'm getting yelled at now monaco maybe we should do left for dead too okay that's what i was thinking i have literally no memories of playing left for dead one but i have a million and one memories playing left for dead two you think that one hit harder i think left for dead two hit harder all right um you can also put the minions in left for dead two oh well okay i don't know if you
can do that um people are saying it takes two which i feel like you gotta put it on i guess yeah again i don't the the vibes of that game game are fucking rancid yeah divorce sucks um do you do anything else but for folks out there sometimes divorce is all you can do no for sure divorce is good if you're at the point you're like i think we should get a divorce like yeah you probably should get a divorce the process of divorce is not necessarily it is why i'm getting there yeah um do we put a borderlands game on nah nah yeah no i don't think we need to i did put perfect dark zero on here because i
saw that in chat that's good i want to get a little spicy okay that's the evil five sure yes i'll sure yeah yeah not a great single player game but cold that's fun gears which one who okay nope fuck me running i don't use more 12 that's right well we're not supposed to say that sorry sorry sorry um did people like those army of two games um it's not memorable enough they made three of them we'll put it on so we can take it off oh that feels my favorite I like that uh hear me out gang yeah Mario Mario Party.
Is that cooperative?
Is Monopoly cooperative?
You depend on each other to keep playing.
Is a knife fight cooperative?
That's a great question, Sean.
You know, Sean, when you frame it like that.
We'll put it on so we can take it off.
Lethal Company or what's the other one?
Content Warning. Yes.
Which one are we putting on here?
For the modern era They're a lethal company, definitely.
Okay. Exploded. Do we want like a battle royale kind of like wrap on there?
Sure. Is Fortnite cooperative?
Can be. That's what I'm thinking.
Like the squad aspect, but I almost feel like it's kind of not really in the spirit.
Should we put it on to take it off?
Well, that's your baby.
You want to? Oh, no, I don't mind either way.
I don't think it should be on there.
Cookies and cream. I feel like we have to put on I myself have never played it because I'm not that old is it cookies ampersand cream or cookies and cream and four sand okay I probably should have specified a game it's the adventures of cookie ampersand cream oh he ho is a good shout cookie singular cookie yeah Well, it's not cookies.
Heave Ho. Her name isn't cookies.
And also Snipperclips.
Snipperclips is a good shout.
Sean, we have to put a beat -em -up on this or more beat -em -ups.
Oh, yeah, like a double dry -edging?
When I think of beat -em -ups, I really do just think of TMNT and Simpsons.
I guess because better ones have come out.
Right, like a phenol fight.
um the streets of rage okay okay like i guess streets of rage too it's on there like four is better obviously but see if this is a great shout from twitch see if this is a good shout uh grounded fuck a bug okay well but it's on there uh four swords adventures do we have that yeah that's number 12 on the list right now okay are we at the point where we don't have much left off um i think we got it i'm oh i feel like we're missing some gamecube games what's i like uh diablo diablo or like some like uh arpg which one i don't know two or three i know mike plays with his brother sometimes so i'm like
oh yeah let's go two okay i feel like i'm trying to think of of cooperative games i played on the nintendo gamecube that i may be forgetting i feel like um the four player consoles we played more versus multiplayer you know yes i i think so as well yeah okay so we might do we I think we should have one more to get to a nice round 30 right yeah we're getting a big list here do we do we want to stick to Jeff Grubbs stupid Mount Rushmore idea or do we want to do something else what I have up at the top is Mount Rushmored which could open us up to a different legally distinct not how many guys are up
there four five yeah four okay how Do we include an MMO?
Yeah, like Fusion Fall or a Club Penguin.
Yeah, I guess Star Online 1.
Yeah, something kind of like one of those.
An Anarchy Online. Yeah.
Maybe EverQuest 2. An EverQuest 2.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Defiance game.
Monster Hunter. Which one?
World. Okay. All right, well, that's it.
That's 30. All right, that's 30.
let's put let's put uh deep rock galactic do we want to put no animal crossing i don't think it's co -op no no no because it it fucking sucks to play with another person the process of do they don't well no because they don't want you to like the if they wanted you to do it yes if they wanted you to do it it would be easier but like nintendo doesn't want you to do it minecraft hmm yeah okay so here's what i think we should do yes we should do a mount rushmore but we should do the nar the boruto mount rushmore of hokage was that seven or so i think okay that's one two three four five six seven yes
seven okay so we need seven all right we're doing the which ones okay so i think we halo 2 is on here twice i think this one was reach initially um i will we'll take halo halo 2 over reach i think personally yeah yes um should i just i want to keep all of these so what i'm going to do them to the next column yeah i'll just do this yeah and then i'll delete them oh smart smart smart yeah I'll delete him we have to pick one between Castle Crashers and Battle Block Castle Crashers okay goodbye Battle Block Halo 2 is staying TMNT and Simpsons we got to pick one I feel like more people in general talk
about Simpsons yes right TMNT have the big TV wait me but oh like the widescreen yeah X -Men has I don't think TMNT has a wide one i think he has does simpson you know there's only four players so i don't think it ever going okay well now hold on do we want to put i would prefer x -men because of the big television over simpson i feel like i didn't i i never played x -men in the arcade i have played more tmnt and simpsons i feel yeah okay okay okay so we'll do we'll do simpsons then we could well Well, what do you two feel?
Do you two feel TMNT?
Because I think they're pretty even.
I think they're even.
They're functionally the same game to me.
Yeah. And in terms of popularity, I don't think it's super big one way or another.
They're functionally the same to me, but of the two, I would pick X -Men, which is not one of the options.
That's not of the two.
I really think, unfortunately, gang, I think it's X -Men over both of these.
okay it's kind of how i feel okay sure there's a it's got a big fucking tv in it so here's the crts next to each other they use a mirror to make you think that it's one big tv hear me out hear me out tmnt has the teenage moon ninja turtles yeah the other one has cyclops who Who cares?
Me. Cyclops is a fucking cop.
No one cares. He's not.
This is just like when someone said Sonic games are bad.
Someone said Cyclops was a cop.
I know. He's quite the opposite.
I know X -Men is very definitively non -cop.
I know. We're putting X -Men on there.
Okay. I think we could cut Lego Star Wars, but I do want to shout it out for what it's done.
hesitant to cut lego star wars i think that was important if we're doing like another round i think it stays for this round i think it should stay for this round portal 2's gotta that's a lock overcooked gang i've already been my my allegiance is clear i don't like this game more popular modern games right i i also think this brings up it's similar to the argument of of mario party where sometimes you have a friend that either becomes disengaged or unfortunately is antagonistic in the game making it not fun yeah all right it's gone left for dead two has to stay what's up oh you're pointing to
you no for sure rock band stays four swords adventures is very good now how many people have played it get out here you need to make cables and shit nope It takes two.
Divorce is okay. Divorce can hang.
We'll keep it. Perfect Dark Zero.
Really funny. And I do think, I do, Sean, we are going to play it.
This was a bad suggestion.
You and me, Sean, are going to 100 % one Dark Zero.
That is not a terrible suggestion.
We can do that. I really do think we should play this game, but it does not need to hang.
No, it does not hang.
RE 5. Next round at least, I think.
I think so too. Human Fall Flat.
No. nah what the hell is that game uh it's one of those games where you're a little rubber guy and you flop around gears of war two years of war two i think it stays for now army of two is gone mario party is gone lethal company stays stays okay i think we can go yeah yes adventures of cookie and cream funny funny but it is gone all right sorry dan no no i was gonna say I don't think any of us three have played it so we can't speak to it I haven't played it I was born in 1995 screw reputation we're going with what we're feeling Steve Ho is really funny and important to the history of this website
but I don't think anybody really has played it I don't think it's important enough to has a very good fart button great fart button and I do think we need to appreciate that but it is gone Snipperclips Grubb talks about this game a lot a lot grub talks about how he and I don't know what it is so okay well then cut it yeah that's good like in super clips super clips is making a game that is completely nuts right now or the studio that made super clips is making a game that's oh they made crow country yes oh which is like incredible that's a great pivot that's awesome but yeah shout out to SVB games
um destiny to i snuck that one on here while y 'all were talking i think it should hang till the next actually not by suggestion i think so too destiny to also important to this website yes for sure dark bottom streets of rage to you know we were hesitating to even include it all right it's gone see a thieves i don't think see a thieves i think we gotta pick i think we gotta pick between sea of thieves and destiny 2 on this layer and i think see if thieves doesn't hang both both again i think important to this website yeah both good games too they're both great they're really really good um but i
think destiny 2 is better than see if thieves i think so as well yeah yeah grounded did is gone yeah diablo 2 i'm i'm gonna trust like if the audience has strong opinions on here because that feels like one that none of us have really engaged with but yeah i have i have no allegiance i don't worship the devil you know oh fuck what oh yeah skate 3 okay now cut it please no no No, no, let's keep Diablo 2 for now.
OK, we'll probably wind up cutting it in the next round.
Monster Hunter can stay.
Yep. Deep Rock Galactic and Minecraft is going to lose to Minecraft. Now, can someone explain to me the co -op side of mine?
Yeah, I don't think of Minecraft as a co -op game.
I just know you. can huh what are you talking about you can play because i haven't played minecraft what are you talking about i don't know you just play you just play the game minecraft with another person okay that's the whole that's it what's different about journey is such a better call journey greg miller's journey i feel like that has to be on this fucking list is it just because you could build with other people and you like i can help y 'all dig a hole you can help me dig a hole yes okay the entire game is built to to be played with yourself or another person like a integral to the experience
is doing it by yourself or with another person.
Here's where my mind is at. And yes, Chad, I didn't forget that we played it once.
I think of it kind of like Fortnite or a Battle Royale where it's like it feels like almost a different vibe overall.
It's gone. Are you happy?
Are you fucking happy?
I wanted to talk it out more actually.
Are you fucking happy it's gone?
You're cutting me so oh quickly yeah listen we got 40 minutes to fill do you oh shit okay hold on minecraft it's back on the list okay all right next round yeah okay take them all over to the next one because we got seven spots this is why it's great we have seven spots naruto or whatever yeah the hokage mounted what the how do i i don't know how to collapse you just copy just just control fucking control yeah we really yeah we really got to fucking pad these 40 minutes this is good radio this is good radio yeah i'm doing cell management this is our hokage rock yes yes yeah we're chipping away
at it now yeah i just copied and pasted in an empty box it's good um you know someone made a um what's it called a a pretty good case in the youtube chat i don't know which one for x -men and that has six player co -op that's almost the most guys you can have that's why i had the big screen yeah yeah right right i think that needs to be in there okay i i do want to give a a special shout out to eco which is that game that Jeff Grubb loves oh ECO yeah that being said we can cut it or not even bother to put it on no no watch this oh oh yeah oh yeah yeah scroll down Jim's heart okay I'm down okay there
it goes all right it was on there it goes we all saw it all right so now according According to Google Sheets, we have 18 entries.
Yes. So we have to count a little over half.
Yes. The Hokage Mountain is seven spots.
Okay, I think it is going to go good if...
Okay, which ones are...
Do you think out of this 18, we can pick...
Some locks? Some locks.
Portal 2. And then put the rest of them up against each other.
Okay, I agree. Portal 2 is a lock.
Can you cut from here and put them over?
just control yeah thank you uh rock band i think is a lock yeah yeah i i think that's a good shout because i never thought of that as a co -op resident evil is on twice so nice um i think x -men arcade i think that's a lock i yeah i think whatever beat them up we decided on it was x my arcade so yes yeah okay okay that's it those are our locks okay now it's time for these to fight uh four spots left four spots um yeah there's four spots in 15 games so we can do one easy cut and then we can have them fight it takes two should go against it takes two and i think it It is a double...
Double elimination.
Double elimination.
They're both out. That being said, this whole discussion is because of Joseph Forrest's new game, Split Fiction.
For sure. Which is not on the list because the writing's not very good.
Yeah, we probably should have mentioned that if we didn't at the top.
That's why we're doing this.
Not for nothing. Not for nothing.
Okay. Now, should we seed this in a way that makes any sense?
Or should we just do one versus two, three versus four?
No, I think we... All the way down.
i think we just start cutting shit like okay yeah we don't really care that the audience watching live didn't seem to care too much so i'm saying diablo is probably gone okay yeah yeah i saw i saw some people saying like no i prefer diablo single player actually between the zombie games left for dead has to stay it's prom it's left for dead it's gotta be left for yeah i for for the goof factor i would love for resident evil 5 yeah that's really funny yeah okay now remember we have time to pad out okay so okay here's a great question what the fuck happens in gears of war 2 is that the one where don's
wife dies no idea is that three they're all the same they're literally exactly right side of history they are all the same just hung some meat with chainsaws that's kind of cool sometimes but I don't remember anything happens in any of those which one is Dom finds his wife Dom finds his wife I'm having Gemini analyze the data cool I don't remember which one horde mode was introduced he's in two and he gets swallowed into the worm oh yes okay i don't like i think it's got to be halo 2 between the gears of war 2 and halo 2 i think it's got to be halo 2 yeah if we're framing it that way i think gears
is gone goodbye yeah okay so one two three we need we hit four of of these can come over right destiny 2 is really good and i think it has to go up against monster hunter world in a fight we don't need to pit things against each other i think it's the only it's the only way well nicky they're all against each other when you think about also you picked a game you like and a game you don't like i know how this is gonna go listen i don't make the rules actually i think you just made the interesting that's so weird how that happened um here's my my push for monster hunter world okay is that it has a longer
tail than unless you cut it off to then destiny 2 i think there is but there's but well no monster in a world is kind of like what if they built the entire game out of the destiny 2 raid and i think there's a lot of stuff in destiny 2 that is not i think monster hunter came a little bit before destiny nikki just a little sure it was quite sure you know what what about we we pause on this conversation i think we can cut lego star wars oh i was gonna say lego star wars has to go over it has to go over lego star wars is important the family co -op yeah it's the co -op game castle crashers is not the family
okay i would put i would take lego star wars over castle crashers any day of the week oh if that's the math we gotta do gang i don't because castle crashers is a beat them up in the the vein of like the konami beat -em -ups the other one has yoda yeah castle crashers has a slightly raunchier slightly more mature uh humor and everything and again the other one has yoda in it okay now if we're going with the original lego star wars games where they didn't talk and they just kind of yeah then okay okay i could see cutting castle crashers for lego star this is tough it's really hard the thing is we
can meander a little bit we got time we can meander a little bit we can all agree though journey probably doesn't hang i was gonna say let's cut journey i think we have to it's a very good game i like that experience but yeah now i think that minecraft is a lock i mean if you say so jim this is one of those where yeah i i just don't have much of an opinion if you say so but minecraft has made several people's careers it's at least two at least two people have gotten rich off of the back of minecraft not even like making minecraft but playing minecraft yeah no off of the back of minecraft at least
a couple of people have made made money um lethal company what we think yeah that's the thing i wonder how much recency bias we're experiencing on the video because it exploded like to the point that they made a million knockoffs we're playing one after this yeah yeah um i think it's important but i don't know if it is all all time carve it in the mountain no i i would not yet at least not yet yeah if i carved it into the mountain i'd be like oh should i have done this yes exactly maybe we should have waited another like 10 years before we did that nikki can you add to column a and then i guess
we can keep it there um phasmophobia oh yeah absolutely phasmo for by a all right cool it's on time all right so we got three spots and six games three spots six games halo 2 gang halo fucking 2 the thing now here's the thing about halo 2 yeah it fucking whips it fucking whips that's the thing about halo 2 is that it fucking bangs you can hold two guns in it that's true they let master chief hold two guys so like made a second character for that yeah yeah oh yeah how do we not lock halo 2 already i don't know i was waiting for y 'all yeah jan if you're cool with that i think me and nick you're
saying oh very much so i feel like a halo has to be there i got rid of castle crushers yeah yeah against these these remaining games okay okay I think Left 4 Dead 2 is also a lock yeah yeah okay so so I think Left 4 Dead is a lock because I think at least with Monster Hunter World that is still a game where you don't ever have to play with anyone else with anybody else and no for sure and Left 4 Dead is a game that is not good if unless you're playing it with other people yeah yeah okay goodbye Monster Hunter underworld destiny 2 you also could conceivably play it by yourself if we're using that line
of logic to to be fair bringing it back a little bit though castle crashers is a game that you like need to play with our people all right that's just back on the list now would we prefer fur halo this is the last or destiny 2 oh halo or destiny halo absolutely it's not just because here's the thing quality plays a factor here but if this is the list of all the hokage like yeah it's their impact like what they've done for us for sure but you don't oh and because because of this right you don't have destiny 2 without halo 2 correct okay literally my destiny 2 thank you for your service bungo i
didn't expect this to get down to lego star wars and castle crashers if i am going to be brutally honest me neither because i think i think jan i think we need to have a talk yeah no please fight fight for castle crashers please okay now i would like like to i would like to say by the way i'm someone who prefers castle crashers yeah i like i like and i like and love both but i don't think we're carving that like weird rectangular helmet into the rock yeah we could carve yoda's head into the rock now i would rather carve lego quaggan jins head into the rock if i'm being honest uh okay you know
what let's look let's look at column column B real quick yeah see if anything that we didn't carry over anything slipped through the five I think that going to your point about impact I think that had a negative impact because that went to Resident Evil six now hang on but anyone who's played Resident Evil five will tell you that game sucks as a single player game but co -op co -op I'm half joking I made a poll on giantbomb that's not how this works giantbomb .com they don't get a say I'm putting my finger in my mouth and putting it in the air I'm getting the temperature I know our metrics it's a bunch
of old dudes who didn't know about shaving their balls yesterday I know what they're going to say I was on that podcast don't let me in with them folks go listen to the voicemail dump truck if you want to learn too much yesterday good dump truck yes um we we did have gears of war folks it was represented but then we cut it because we couldn't remember we couldn't remember anything about it and it wasn't as good as halo 2 yeah halo 2 is pretty good yeah in terms of like that xbox co -op shoot oh hold on gang what's up here's another one we should add to column a yeah what's up and i think it could go
to column b okay the payday games someone mentioned that payday 2 and i didn't know how i feel about it yeah now because i think payday has an impact they made a third one and they people hated the third one so much that they started supporting the second one again yeah that's crazy that's an interesting one also if anyone else thinks there's like a dark horse here that we really ignored at this point yeah now it's time to put in a baldur's gate 3 i'm sorry i didn't play it that i so i can i actually take a brief play um um can you hit the games music wow so I started playing Baldur's Gate 3 with friends
and did you know that that game is actually a fucking nightmare to play co -op yes yeah because we've done it here actually fucking sucks sucks it's really really bad well the the process of you can't it doesn't let you carry over it's one save so everyone's progress is on one save right which is the opposite of how a drop in drop out dnd experience should work i think like well i in my in my world in my brain this This thing should be we should be able to drop in kind of as we go and be able to play the game together kind of at our own speed.
But the way that this works is that it's like the game doesn't like joining another PlayStation.
It just hates that.
It'll kick you out if you kind of hang out for too long before doing anything.
It doesn't like that.
If you have too many people in the party, you can't get the companions and the companions are like half of the game.
which i guess tracks but it's also like it doesn't feel very good like i i like oh shadow heart is here and it's like okay actually bye she's like oh there's too many people here i gotta leave yeah like no what like i'm trying to play the game to hang out with the characters um twitch was a bummer i just have had i was really really amped to play it with my friends and then i started playing it and i was like actually i don't think this is a good multiplayer experience for four people for two people i think it's probably fine but for four people i think that's too much especially if it's your
first time playing the game i yeah i feel like balder's gate three is so tailor -made how you want to create and craft that story that adding like three more heads that will not have their progress carry over can be frustrating okay yeah now question nikki yes have you ever played dungeons and dragons in my shoot life a couple of times okay never a campaign's length of time but that's what balder's gate 3 is doing yeah that's what they want well I think dungeons and dragons might be bad that's okay you can think it's really our kids also comments are down below y 'all I don't think that they're
all regular y 'all at me no I'm dragging you down with me oh okay okay hold on hold on oh yeah yeah Yeah.
Helldivers 2? That's a weird way to pronounce Crackdown 2.
That's just a bad call.
Oh, okay. No, we just got quiet.
We're just waiting for someone to break the silence and congrats, Jan. Yeah, I think all the games just mentioned, again, it's like Lethal Company.
They're huge. They've exploded.
It's just like we're not carving them into the rock you know right right yeah they were that character in that one filler episode and like he's really cool the list is done we're not putting crack down to there why not at the end you find out that actually the whole time the agency was bad and then you start fighting freak agents right and then you get the glider suit and then you have to go you get your friends together so you can do the achievement achievement where you jump off the top of the tower and you glide over all five of the islands and you come back to the tower and then everyone's
like fuck yeah i love 50 gamer score don cheeto's right i just hate orbs why are you anti -orb don cheeto was like in the chatters for a second he was in crackdown 2 and i forgot um okay okay let's each pick one let's each pick one for the last spot nikki do you actually think it's crackdown 2 or do you i don't think it's actually i'll take the 2 out of there i do want to put it on the a list though okay sure yeah okay i really did like absolutely i thought i think in this listen bad takes nikki's at it again i think crackdown 2 is better than crackdown 1 interesting that yeah oh fuck saints row
3 now hold on that one actually i will go to bat for okay go to the b column and then stop okay that's fine yeah jan okay jan what you want there uh see now i'm thinking about families now and as much as i prefer castle crashers right i think lego star wars we have to hit the family aspect of that as well right we don't have family representation other than rock band right i feel like that's you know that we don't need you don't need the list to be a diverse widespread of different games but i do think that that's kind of what we're doing so far we're kind of hitting the different genres a little
bit or something like that lego star wars just encapsulates a huge huge audience that isn't like represented on a list really yet like a more modern a more family friendly angle it was awesome to unplug the keyboard out of the Mac at the Apple store um on sit on the big the big black orbs you know you know everyone knows what I'm talking about no you know I'm talking about no no fucking way okay at the Apple store every Apple store in America before they the co -op stuff we're talking about lego star wars which is where i i played all of lego star wars at the apple store okay because they had they
had the imax on child tables that were about as why would they do that tall as that one because when you were your parents were there or your parents were at the mall or your parents were rich and buying an iphone or whatever the fuck they said go away so i can listen to this man talk to me about a computer um you would send your kids upstairs and they had max at on the table and they had these these incredible soft black orb chairs that you would sit down on and god knows what fluid and detrius was on there yes um but you would sit on those chairs and then you would play they had like a selection of games
on there and i was always playing lego star wars and you could unplug one of the keyboards out of one of the computers you could plug it into the other one and then you could play like the star wars on there two people um which was which was delightful um yeah i do think that there is something magical about the early lego star wars games yeah um like deeply deeply deeply deeply deeply important um so i'm happy to see it i guess if crackdown two can't make it lego star wars unfortunately you know there's only so many spots yeah yeah i mean until like the series continues and then who knows we'll
be crackdown four is going to really bring everything back back to the peak all faith absolutely okay okay I think we can put our hammer and chisel away we can blow the dust off of this mountain and I think we have found our Hokage uh Mount Rushmore Hokage Rock this is it Hokage Rock of Co -op Games um Sean Nicky would you like to trade off reading the list please sure thing whoa okay what's happening oh nikki's making the rock it's so big it's getting bigger they're chilling i just said we're putting the chisel away oh oh and when you put away it shrinks that makes a lot of sense okay anyway starting
from the top uh oh in a nice font we have portal 2 i think that's what it says I can't read cursive yeah rock band uh x -men arcade minecraft halo 2 left 4 dead 2 and lego star wars now just for posterity's sake I want to since we have a little bit more time I want to see or hear what y 'all think is would be the number one out of this list rock band rock band rock band i'm like it's the one that is the most over with regular people yeah regular people i do think halo 2 is huge portal 2 got more mainstream than you would expect but i think it's still fairly niche portal 2 was everywhere and also if you
ask somebody what what portal 2 was nobody would talk about it yeah it was like a gigantic time and place thing for the course of like five years everyone their mother knew portal 2 i think anyone before after doesn't know it as well now i know i was down on this before nikki you have an epiphany no we put the hammer chisel away we can't add anymore anyway um no i i thought about it colonel sanders and john bomb chad said we sports but i don't think we sports is cooperative because that's like there is one co -op in tennis but yeah no yes it's competitive but now i just had i had to i thought about it
i was like oh my god we forgot about we sports but it's not competitive now out of these seven right yeah only one of these is going to have a movie featuring jack black that's That's true.
So let me take it off the list. Goodbye, Minecraft. Okay, well, I guess we have an open spot now.
No, I'm joking. I think, yeah, okay, I can be convinced that Rock Band is the number one.
Can I actually ask y 'all a question?
Yeah, please. What do y 'all think?
I know what the Minecraft movie is about because I watched a sponsored IGN video about it last week.
can you tell me what you think the plot of the minecraft movie is i'm assuming it's like a jumanji it's an isekai yeah yes it is but how what do you mean how does no wait how you get isekai does god give you a smartphone no it's not pokemon ship uh you want me to walk you through uh please take my hand steve jack black is a child who quote yearns to work in the mines he keeps he keeps going to his local mine as a child and tries to work there and they keep saying no you can't so then eventually he grows up gold becomes old enough goes down in a shoot mine on on earth and finds a rock that he puts
inside of another rock and it takes him to the minecraft world and he fucking loves it there's so much that he never goes back home this is i swear to god gang this is real years later years later we're still going we're still years later a different two kids do they also yearn they do not their parents are dead the their real estate agent and jason momoa who is just the the donkey kong guy who sucks what's that guy's name billy hatcher billy hatcher yes yeah billy mitchell so he's there also for some reason the kids find the rock they open the rock and then all four of them get sucked into minecraft
as well steve hasn't seen a human being in years because he's been in minecraft and now they need to get out of minecraft world that's the flick that's the that's the conceit and setup for the motion picture i i'm sorry i i tabbed away mentally to fix something anything else yeah for sure did you mention how Jason Momoa is part of this equation yes he is a Billy Mitchell style oh okay I'm sorry I'm sorry he owns a bar and is in debt or owns an arcade and is in debt or something got it that's the movie and then it looks the way it does which is to say awful all right well we have our Mount Rushmore
and and I'll put rock me at the top yeah please okay I'm very proud of this list this Hokage mountain this Hokage rock this Hokage rock band of co -op games make you think all right folks friends and family lovers and friends Ursh or John and Luda gonna do this again and we'll do this again next week on the the the bomb we'll do do the bomb cast and then we'll do the bomb cast revengeance and it's all going down on the power block I'm gonna hit enter for this so I can send a link to everyone else gang you so much for joining us thank you for listening us to gab for two hours about cards and then
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