What does it look like to face so many challenges on your path to fluency and still achieve your goals in English?
This is what you're going to hear in my conversation with Laura, my lovely student.
Laura is a graphic designer from Barcelona Spain, And she went from being an avoider in the language and not using it at all to using it confidently and helping others communicate confidently in English inside our communities.
She's going to talk about all the mindset blocks that she faced and her fear using English.
And she's also going to share how saying yes to opportunities, even though they terrified her, made a huge difference in her life and in her English.
This is such an inspiring conversation and I can't wait to get into it.
So let's go ahead and listen to my conversation with Laura.
Hello, hello, Laura.
How are you doing?
Hi, I'm doing great.
I'm excited to be here.
Nervous?
Nervous.
But I'm here.
I love that.
And thank you so much for doing it and for being here, for being willing to share your story with my audience and to kind of like talk about your journey.
Thank you for having me and yeah, to allow me to express myself, to tell my story and see if it can help others too.
I'm sure it will.
I'm sure it will because I know your story up close and I cannot wait to dive in.
Yeah, so hi everyone.
I'm laura.
I'm from a small city around barcelona spain um, and i'm a graphic and web designer, and the truth is that i don't need english for anything yet, you know, but i always felt this need to learn the language.
You know I was bothered about like spending so much years at school and not being able to say a word in English.
That frustrated me.
And that's, you know, like how I started with the journey.
Why do you think that was?
Like why do you think, after all the years that you've studied English in school, you were still not really able to communicate confidently in English?
Because it was only grammar, and I felt that it wasn't for me.
It was just all these rules that I had to understand, but I wasn't really.
I was studying for the test and trying to pass them, but that's it.
I didn't have the chance to speak like speaking opportunities or learning the language in another level.
So I think it was because of that.
Mm-hmm.
So what got you to even start exploring the idea of working on your English?
Because of that, like i feel um, you know, like i always had this desire and i don't even know why.
You know um, i just started, like consuming a lot of content and surrounding myself, i knew it was something important, you know, to have.
Like i, it's something i had always there.
It's true that i was working from, like making a lot of projects with american brands, but i never needed the you know to speak because I could communicate with them in Spanish, or just because it was like writing emails and that's all.
Yeah.
So I think I saw that like, okay, in the future, maybe I need to do something about it.
And I knew how I was feeling and just this, yeah.
So I want to talk about it a little bit because...
I think that there are people out there, maybe even now watching this interview, who are thinking to themselves, who feel the same right.
Like who have that desire.
But then there is that voice that says well, you don't really need it for anything, right?
Like you don't live in an English speaking country.
Why do you need to work on your English?
You're not going to work in English.
So what's the point?
And they're trying to navigate these like practical voices, right?
Like the voices of reason, don't waste your time on something that is not going to help you versus that desire or maybe intuition around the fact that English is going to serve them one way or another right.
And I think that this is where you're at.
So what would you say to those people who, kind of like, push away that passion because they don't think it's practical enough or it's needed enough?
Well, I think it's.
You know, like you never know what's going to happen in the future and what you're going to need to have.
I think it's way better to start now and to have this, that having like the need to learn the language and then like rush into it.
You know, like I feel it's better to start to take your time to feel the language and then be prepared for anything else.
Right.
I always say like, When the opportunity comes, like it doesn't give you a notice before, right?
Like, the opportunity comes whether you're ready or not.
You might as well be ready when the opportunity comes.
Otherwise, you know, you'll keep pushing it away.
You'll not even see the opportunities.
But when you're ready and you're right like I think English is something that is you never know how it's going to open doors or what opportunities will come.
And I also think that there is know like, when i'm looking at you and your journey and i've known you for for quite a few years i think that there is like that inner drive that gives you joy outside of, just like the practical aspect of english right, because we'll later talk about mindset and about getting out of your comfort zone and about challenging yourself personally as well.
You know, and i think It's all a part of our personal development journey.
And I want to connect language learning to that.
Like it's not separate from who you are and how you develop as a human being.
Would you agree?
Yeah, totally.
And I feel like you know, like sometimes you jump in like or you miss opportunities because you are not like that ready or you don't feel confident.
It's what you said.
You don't know when it's going to come and you don't feel confident.
And it's true that I don't need it.
I'm, you know like, I'm looking for new opportunities and now I'm open, you know like, to.
Whatever it happens, I'm here.
But it's true that I enjoy.
You know, like I use English daily now and I have I don't think about like, I'm just practicing my English.
It's a tool that I use to communicate with many, many people, and it make my day, you know, like every single day.
Yeah.
And that's the powerful thing to know the language and to be able to live all these experiences when it comes.
So tell us a little bit about what is different for you from, let's say, a few years ago to today, now that English practice is an essential part of your day and your life.
What has changed for you?
How does that look like?
Like in terms of habits?
Yes, in terms of habit or like how you show up in English?
It changed me completely, not only in English, but also in my life.
Before just having a phone call.
It was a nightmare, something that I had to manage, or just to go to the store and ask for something.
It was something.
That it was hard and if I could avoid it, I just did it, or not look into the eyes of the other person?
It was so hard for me.
I was feeling this kind of social anxiety.
If I went to one place, I needed to know how to get there, how to open the door, how or what to say to the person, and everything changed.
You know, this softened with with this kind of process, with the journey and and now I feel better in these small things that made sound, you know, like silly, but for me it was like a huge thing.
Um, so it's not just English it's, and I'm able you know what I said?
I'm able to speak every single day in English, and that makes me happy.
But also, like all the things and challenges that I'm facing, that now it's possible, and before I couldn't think about it.
So I want to talk a little bit more about that social anxiety that people who have that, regardless of the language, like how does that, where does that meet you?
When it comes to speaking English.
Even think of the beginning, the first.
You know years of you studying English or, and then how do you navigate social anxiety and speaking English as a second language?
Like what makes it harder for you?
Because again, like I think, a lot of people who have confidence issues maybe are coming with with kind of like that burden as well.
And I want you to maybe share a little bit more.
Yeah.
Well, I think you know, like I was always with this level, I carried this level of the shy, you know quiet, to sensitive kid.
And I believe that it was, you know, like it was something that I wasn't able to do.
Like, okay, there are certain things that are not for me, that are not meant for me.
I can do a lot of things, but this I can.
And when you say this, you mean speaking English?
But in English, like especially because it's it was this wanting of you know, like be able to speak, but also like thinking yeah, but I can, you know, like I can just show up and do what all these people is doing.
You know, like I felt like that I needed.
It wasn't for me.
It was safe to think about this and to know, okay, this is not for me.
Even I want more, but it is what it is and I have to accept it.
How does it make you feel when there is that voice in your head that says, this is not for you?
I can't imagine. something broke in me, like, inside me, like, every single time, you know?
And also especially because I had this and I don't want to say it like in a bad way, you know, but I had these feelings.
But it's true that people around me also like if I said something about, like I want to do this, like people said like yeah, you know, like this kind of making jokes, but like I understand the point because I was the first that I wasn't believing in myself, but it was hard.
So you're saying that they, they supported this, this belief.
Like if you said, I want to do this, I would be like, yeah, right.
That is what, okay.
Because you've kind of like not you, it's not your responsibility, but but but it's kind of like.
That was the the assumption.
So in a way you kind of like fit into that.
Or I think that's how it was showing myself, you know, and they could see that and yeah, that the the thought and and then it was like okay, they are right, you know.
Like I started like overthinking everything and it was like maybe they are right and I can like broke this until I discover you, you know.
And everything changed.
What has changed?
And how?
Everything.
You know, like, I...
I feel like I was following all these voices and yeah, I think we are not like explaining a lot the, the the journey, but after going through the, the mindset program, you know everything like something shifted me.
Like I.
I was and I think it was the moment you know, because I spent a lot of years in your programs and seeing what was possible for a lot of people.
And you know like, I wonder what that couldn't be me.
You know and, and when I went through the 30 days and listened to to it, I realized that I had, you know like, a lot of limiting beliefs and and the problem that I had it wasn't with my voice or, you know, like my personality or the way that I am, it was about my mindset and yeah.
It's been really like so rewarding for me as a coach or as a teacher to see that you are like you came to work right.
Like you said to yourself, I'm not happy.
You know, like that description that you had you being locked in.
In the situation where like there is this whisper, I want to do more.
Like there's like, I deserve this.
And then it's you, right?
Like the conventions, the thoughts, the parts in you that want to keep you safe and the environment around you that knew you only as a certain person, right.
And they kept you small.
But what I admire most about your journey is that you didn't let that whisper quiet down too much.
And that led you to find the content that you needed to make a change.
And you made the change because you showed up and you said like I'm here to work and I'm here to push myself, no matter how long it takes.
You know, I look at you and I look at the first conversation that we had in person in the meetup in Barcelona and our recent interaction and inside our community, like I think that it has been such an incredible shift in how you show up.
And let's talk about it a little bit, because you and I know and they're like, the people are watching, like wait, but what happened?
And what is she doing?
So you came, you know, like you started with not having the confidence to think in English.
And then the first interaction with my programs.
You joined like you started being more interested in pronunciation, work right.
Mm-hmm.
Right, that was the first thing that drew you into this kind of work.
That is a little different, right?
It's like not the grammar, vocabulary, starting with spoken English.
What helped you with pronunciation work?
Oh, I think it's what I said.
You know like I was bored about the traditional methods.
You know like it was boring for me, but I didn't know better.
I thought that I had to went through the grammar and the rules because that's what I knew.
But then I came across your channel and started like watching the videos and consuming more content.
And that's when, you know, I realized.
English had sounds that Spanish don't have.
Like that was the first time.
And then everything started like making sense.
And I wanted to know more.
And I think I become passionate about it.
You know, and that's what drew me to your program and decide to jump in.
And you started with Accent Makeover, which is like the program that I initially had.
And then you joined New Sound, which is my current program.
That is more holistic and has mindset integrated into it, which is where you, kind of like, started to dive deep into mindset work.
So you mentioned that you realized that the problem wasn't you, which is...
That's always the case.
Like the problem is not us and our English.
It's really the way we think about it and the way we limit ourselves.
What is the one, if you can, kind of like I know that you mentioned it already, but kind of like come back to for people who are struggling with mindset and limiting beliefs and you can't do it and what's the point, and all of that, like all of these negative voices.
Maybe name one or two things that really helped you move away from that limited mindset into a more growth, fluent mindset.
I think it was a process.
It was about taking action.
I feel like deciding, you know, like it's enough.
Like it's what you said.
I joined Accent Makeover and I went there like for two rounds.
And then I jumped in like it was a long, like a lot of years, when I realized OK, you're doing things wrong.
You know, like you're putting all this effort and you're not doing the most important thing.
So now you have to do it.
You know, like believe that you can do it.
Give it a try.
Try like six months and and see what happens and allowing me to do this, to say okay, now i'm gonna do it and and taking action and taking this small decision is what?
Like change everything.
Wow, i'm so happy that you said that, because changing your thoughts is not going to do anything.
Changing your thoughts around, taking action and believing it would work.
That is the change in thoughts that we need to have, but then also to take action, and consistent action, which you have been taking right and like if i'm thinking also on the uh interview with katya that we had not long ago and katya has also had an impact on your journey.
So it's kind of like there is no way around it, like change and transformation happens to people who take action.
We tend to kind of like to procrastinate.
You know, if no one holds us accountable, we're probably not going to do the things that we say we're going to do.
Things get in the way.
So how has the community and the structure of the programs?
Because you are in New Sound you've taken New Sound in the past, which is my signature pronunciation program for those who don't know and you're also in Beyond, which is my English practice community.
So how has that served you when you said to yourself I need to take action and I'm willing to trust the process?
Well, it's what makes it possible.
Community, it was and is everything in my journey and for myself.
It's true that I decided in that moment to join and to take action, but I truly believe that without the community, I wouldn't be where I am today.
The time that I decided okay, I'm going to show up, I felt like it was in a safe space, that I could be myself.
And I think that's so important.
You know, and in every step like I find someone that there was supporting me and rooting for me.
And at the beginning, you know, like I was, as you mentioned, I was with with Katia and I remember that I, you know, like I wonder always how that many good people could be like in in just in one place.
Now I understand why um, but yeah like, for me, it's like their support, their kindness, their believing in me like I was.
For months, I wasn't believing in myself, but this belief and these conversations with them like make me start like to gain the confidence and start believing in myself.
You know like, and to be where I'm now and I'm grateful.
You know like it's amazing to be part of a community like this and and i don't have words to describe how grateful i feel about you and the community well, i'm grateful for you and for your presence because you've also been contributing so much right, like just by showing up for others as well, because you're doing now the same thing that, like all the support that you've received, you are kind of like giving it back.
Even now in this conversation like, I think, that a few years ago, if I were to tell you Hey Laura, how about a conversation on YouTube?
You'd be like uh, I think if you would have asked that, you would say you know, like in, in five years, you're going to be this, you're going to be doing this thing.
But without knowing the journey and everything that would happen, I would say I don't have you know, like it's not that important for me.
I don't want to learn.
So two things.
First of all, I want to hear more about what it is that is possible for you now.
That wasn't possible five years ago.
That's the first thing.
I'm saying that so I don't forget.
And the second thing I just wanted to mention something interesting about what you shared regarding the community, because it's almost like you reinvented yourself as an English speaker, like in English right.
Like as someone who is capable for more, because you were boxed in.
You know, like in the life and the environment that you had and what people had expected of you.
And sometimes like it's almost like we don't want to disappoint people by actually achieving the things that we're achieving right.
Because people are like, They're saying, yeah, you can do this or you can't do this.
And they have certain perceptions of you.
And I'm talking about people who love us the most, right?
People like our friends and family.
And it's like, everyone is a, like they're used to things being the way they are.
No one likes the status quo to be challenged.
This is why things stay the same.
It's really hard for people to get out of their comfort zone.
But because you created for yourself this new space where no one knew you before, and it's a new language.
So it's kind of like you're saying, I'm not going to let English limit me.
I'm going to let it be the aspect or the facet of my personality that dares more, that is more courageous, that speaks more right.
Like, and you've kind of like created that for yourself.
Does that sound like something that, yeah and no, like i feel like the change was inside myself.
You know like it was in spanish and what in english too.
You know like it's not about i just create this environment, or maybe it is, you know, like having the, the environment and and the, the thing to succeed, or to to show myself that i was capable of more than i ever imagined.
Um, maybe give me, you know like, all this change in in my life too, but i think, And then it impacted everything in your life outside of the community.
That's what you're, yeah.
Yeah, like everything.
I'm different.
I think I'm a completely different person.
And the weirdest thing is that I feel like more myself than ever.
So I think that's growth.
I love that.
When you say growth is to feel more myself than ever to me I hear like To get rid of the parts that were just getting in the way of you being you.
Yeah.
I've never been, you know, a huge fan of myself.
But it's true that in that moment, like I was going through a tough situation and it made me more small and you know, like being here it made me change this and all the light, you know, i i was letting the light uh, get inside me and i feel like that's the answer.
You know, that's the the reason what i can grow like in i don't differentiate like this kind of the two languages or three.
It's about like um myself, like yeah, i love that, i love that so much and like i really wish that For everyone watching.
Like I think that this is like the biggest gift that you can give yourself just to be closer to yourself and to recognize what's not working and to change that.
So Laura, what is possible for you now that wasn't possible five years ago?
What are you doing regularly now?
Well, it's basically talking, speaking English daily, that it was something I never thought it could happen, and enjoying it.
You know, like I have fun and I speak about different topics that make me like think and it's changing me.
Like I feel like that growth that I was talking about, it's changing.
Also about the topics, because we are reflecting and things that you never thought it changed your perspective.
And it's helping me a lot in this.
Also, like you know, like having the co-host sessions with Mehdi and Moniko and my own, like hosting by my own.
So just for context, for people who don't know so, Laura is in Beyond our English practice community and there we have conversation groups every single day.
We have several.
So when she says, I'm speaking every day, right?
Like it's mainly there in the community with people from around the world.
And...
She started co-hosting sessions with other hosts because our hosts in the conversation groups are beyond students who are seasoned, who build their confidence by hosting.
And now she's also hosting her own sessions.
What limiting beliefs did you have to overcome to host?
Not just to speak, but now I'm saying... to be a leader inside this context?
I never thought like I never had as a goal, like I saw these amazing people hosting sessions but I never saw myself like that wasn't my goal.
You know, I thought I can improve.
I can be like have better level without doing this.
You know that's not for me um, but i have to talk.
You know like the the change was with with the meetup, barcelona meetup that was like um, knowing that i was there face to face for the first time, you know, talking with people in english and me being like as a shy person, you know an introvert, and and just like i decided to go, just like step by step.
You know like i i decided to okay, i'm going um one day, and then ended up like being two uh, and and seeing myself there talking with so many people and having a great time.
It was it changed me, something in me and and I decided that I didn't want to hide myself anymore.
You know, because it's true that it was having a better time.
You know like I was more confident, I could like enjoy the conversation, groups and talk in English, but when I had to talk, like in the memory room or with more than five people, I couldn't, I was frozen and I couldn't do more um, And that changed everything.
And the funny thing is that I
When I heard about the meetup, I said, I'm not gonna, no.
No way.
Really?
I'm not doing this.
Laura ended up like.
So there was this small action group of the Barcelona students not Barcelona Barcelona in the area who initiated everything around the meetup.
Like the day that we walked around and we had like all these different locations and you created this beautiful game around it and and activities at night.
And they kind of like curated the entire experience on their own.
So it was like an incredible group of women and you were a part of it.
And then to hear that you didn't even think about joining is mind blowing to me.
I would have helped.
You know like I would do that, because I felt like Yeah, I needed to be part, but I was thinking about not joining.
And that's how I was acting, you know?
Like, that was my pattern to follow.
Like, every time that some opportunity came, I said no right away without thinking.
And I miss, like... during my life, a lot of opportunities.
And then you know, like after going through the experience and knowing that I was able to, you know, to do more, it's when I decided okay, next time, you know, I promised myself, next time I'm not going to say no, I'm just going to think about it and then let the person know.
And that's how, you know, like, Mary asked me, Mary, we love Mary.
Mary, yeah.
She took me by the hand and she never.
That was a project.
She was like, I'm going to take you with me.
And she did it.
But she asked for the second time.
And this time I said, OK, you know, like I'm not saying no.
I just want to know more.
Tell me about it.
Yeah, to co-host with her, let me, explain me what you have in mind, and then I'll decide.
And that's how everything changed, you know, like what made me to, yeah, to decide to do it.
I thought I wasn't ready, but yeah.
You're never ready for anything big and new.
Never, ever.
So, you know, like this is the thing you do before you feel ready.
I want to outline the stages, right?
So we have like in Beyond and in New Sound, like the way we think about the fluency journey.
Instead of going according to levels, we we talk about the stages as a speaker and then the beginning is an avoider right.
Which is how you started.
I don't speak right.
Like before, you like avoiding, like being able to communicate, but avoiding as humanly possible every situation where you would be required to speak English.
You described it where you had to make a phone call.
You were like, ah, you know.
So from an avoider to an anxious speaker, which is someone who is already saying, okay, I'm no longer going to avoid, but it has like an emotional toll, very stressful, very nerve-wracking, overthinking, editing, right?
Like that's the next stage.
And then the following stage is a brave speaker.
And a brave speaker already starts to manage their mind and to be like, I recognize the feelings.
I don't let it drive the, like be in the driver's seat.
And then from there there is a challenger where you start like to push yourself more and more and more right.
Which is where, like the community meetup, joining more regularly and taking more action and doing all the activities.
And the last stage is an influencer, which is your stage now, where it has become less about.
What do I get out of it?
And how can I use English to make an impact? and to share it with others, which is where you're at.
And, I think, being a host in Beyond and everything that you do in New Sound as well, where you show up for everyone.
I think it's also a mindset shift from moving away from the spotlight being on me than it being on others.
So I want you to talk a little bit about again.
Like you know, this entire conversation is about this journey, but about the influencer part, about making an impact.
How is that?
What has that changed for you?
Everything, because as I said, I never thought, like I never consider it, you know?
And it's what you said like I feel it's not that I'm not nervous like I have the same, you know, feel anxious sometimes and the experience of hosting it was like I felt all the emotions, like in all the process, but it's true that i don't allow myself to to stop from you know, like i don't let myself to not do things because of that, and when i understood, you know like okay, i'm here, i'm doing this um, and it's a way to to give up, you know, to not give up, Not to give up.
To give up.
To give, yeah.
But to give all the support that I had to other people and to create these spaces where we can share and practice together and make the connection.
And I feel like that opened everything else.
Now I feel more confident in the way that I face challenges.
I feel like today, saying yes to this, it was because of that, you know, because now i don't overthink.
I know um, that i'm gonna do it, like i'm gonna be nervous, but i can handle it, and i truly believe and trust myself and my english that i can um, you know, accomplish it and i feel like that's the yeah, everything that it's bring me, you know, like to to be part of the community, to create this, those spaces, but also like, keep growing and and understand uh, what it's changing.
Yeah, so if i, if i kind of like put it in again, like this entire transition from an avoider to an influencer First of all, recognizing the need, right.
Like I have a passion, I want to be ready, right?
Like, so you recognize the need.
Then you started taking action, right?
Through pronunciation work and spoken, which gets you to feel the language and to see the language from a different perspective, right.
So it's kind of like taking regular action of pronunciation work and speaking regularly.
And then...
Being like doing the mindset work to understand the shifts that you need to make to be able to stay consistent with your practice, but also to battle with the demons that tell you you're not good enough.
Your English is not good enough.
You should be quiet.
This is not for you.
Right.
So that is the mindset work.
And finally, being in an environment that constantly challenges you to take action, to show up, to be supported right.
Like you use the metaphor of light, like they got that light into you so that they see the best in you and they make you feel that.
And then you do the same for others, which is the beauty of the community.
Yeah.
Tell us about the vocabulary journal.
Well, that was a challenge to just to explain what it is.
It's a journey, a journal where you can write vocabulary.
You know to start learning new vocabulary and you write words.
The definition, the iPad, the sentences, and then you create your own.
And there's also like a space to take notes.
Because it's true that since school and when I was trying to learn with the traditional methods, like I never opened a grammar book or a vocabulary.
And I felt like I had this gap and I had to work on it.
And the thing is that I a perfectionist, you know, and i always spend a lot of time just creating the templates to everything had to be perfect and and i was more like look into the margins and like all had to be perfect, and then spend more time doing this than learning the.
So i had the idea just to to create this book where i can just open it and like, sit down, work on on the vocabulary and and do the next thing.
And it was important because i feel like for a long time i was just doing the same, you know, like i had a lot of ideas but i always needed to share it with someone, looking for validation or just permission i, i don't know uh but, and Most of the time I ended up like not doing anything, you know, and this time I thought I think it's a good idea.
I think it could be helpful, not only for me, but for others.
And I just did it.
I designed it and I didn't show it to anyone until, you know, it was a product.
And then it's when I show it, you know, to Maddie and magic happened.
But yeah.
Magic did happen.
So I have it and we'll show it right here.
So first of all for like, just to kind of like clarify, it's like it's a really a plan to learn vocabulary.
It's beautifully designed.
So people who like it to be inspiring as well and not to use like a random notebook that you kind of like forget what you need to write.
So it really guides you on how to learn vocabulary in an effective way.
Where you write the word, the definition.
Example sentences, transcript of how you pronounce it.
And I love it so much because it really combined.
First of all, it's a project that you had to again, it's that whisper.
It wasn't easy, but you listened to it and you executed it, right?
Like, which is huge.
Like any creative project, like I know what it takes to put it out in Into the world, like you have to deal with, like whatever is it like, worth it?
And the judgment and what's the point and the time invested in all of that.
Like.
So you managed all of that, which is proof for the incredible transformation that you've been through.
But also like, it's really a combination of your creative passion, which is graphic design, right?
Like, and, and like having something that is like so well packaged.
And then connecting it with your other passion, which is learning English, which is another thing why I love this so much.
And I have a copy and a lot of students from our community have a copy and you guys can get a copy.
We're going to put a link to it in the description.
So if you want, like I, I really recommend it because it's it really keeps you motivated on learning vocabulary in a healthy way, right?
Not just like the old school, traditional lists of words.
What surprised you about this project and making it happen and come to life?
I think people you know like the acceptance first of all, like Mary, you know like that what I was talking.
Mary is another community member.
She was also very active in our Barcelona meetup.
And this is how you initially met, right?
Like the first connection that, you know, like beautiful, incredible, inspiring woman.
We keep referring to her because she's a big part of this.
And she told you do it, do it, do it.
You have to do it.
Yeah.
No, because I it's true that I had, you know, like I wasn't letting anyone to know, you know like, and I was focused on do it and I it's what I wanted, you know.
But it's true that, at the end, I had like some, as I said, I'm a perfectionist and I was.
I have other things in mind and and i was worried about the quality and she was what she said.
You know, i needed this extra push and and she was who, show it to to all of you um, and and yeah, like this amazing power of the community that you uploaded the video and everyone reacted and I wasn't expecting that, you know, and and I knew how was the community and how amazing they were, but I wasn't expecting that and and not feeling it's what we were talking.
You know, like I'm a graphic designer and and a lot of time I was like worrying about this, like showing my, my things my, my work, and and worried about judgment and you being free, for the first time, to don't feel this, like knowing that okay, people like it, they are using it.
It's been like helpful for a lot of people.
It was like the biggest thing, you know, the biggest win for me.
Amazing.
That's a huge win.
I think, and it's a huge win for us, because they think it's it's again like you created it for yourself to begin with, right.
Like this is something that I wanted doesn't exist.
And then when you do that, then this is where people relate to it the most.
It's not just another product or just another journal.
So I absolutely love it.
And again, we're going to show it and link it so that people, whoever feels that this speaks to them I think it would be a beautiful gift for themselves.
All right.
So, as we wrap up for people who are now where you were Before you started your journey with us and with AXA, Makeover and New Sound, and then Beyond and the community.
And they're not sure.
Maybe they've tried other things before.
Maybe they feel stuck.
Maybe they feel like it's not going to work for them.
What would you tell them?
Try it.
You know, like you don't have anything to lose.
You know like, i feel like it's important to take this, this first action.
You know like, if you see or you heard something that you think it's gonna be positive for you, just try it.
Don't wait until you feel ready, because the truth is that we always want something else, we want to learn something new or we want to gain more confidence or like and, and that moment may never come.
You know and, and i feel like it's about taking the the, the action, the moment, a small step every time.
And and just yeah, trust the process, because it's not like.
You know like, overnight doesn't happen.
You need time and, and you need to put the work um, but you don't have anything to lose.
Just try it and and you'll see.
You know like, especially in the community, you'll see what amazing communities and and how you're gonna feel and what i always say you know, like i'm not special, like if i could make it possible for me um, you can do it too.
It's about that believing that it's possible and doing it.
I love that and i agree one billion percent, And I want to say a huge thank you for being a part of our community, for letting me be a part of your journey, for all the validation that I got from you about what's working, and mostly about what's working, and even sometimes what's not.
But this is so important for me as a teacher and a coach, to always hear from my students and to remember that I am on the right path and you always took the time to tell me, to share with me your progress and to share with me the impact that this work has had.
And just so you know like nothing inspires me more to continue and to kind of like do this than hearing this and to seeing the outcome of your experience.
So I admire you so much.
I love you.
I really do love you.
I love hanging out with you and the gang.
And and thank you for being a part of my life and the community.
And thank you for now sharing your story with our audience.
Thank you for letting me become my, or turn myself again, you know to, to make possible this amazing change in my life.
And yeah, thank you for for the community, for the team and for all the people who was there by my side helping me.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah.
So let's keep going and make more magic happen.
Sure.
Thank you so much, Laura.
Thank you.
