Welcome to English as a Second Language podcast number 141, a brainstorming session.
This is English as a Second Language podcast number 141.
I'm your host, Dr Jeff McQuillan, coming to you from the Center for Educational Development in beautiful Los Angeles, California.
Today's podcast is about people who are trying to come up with new ideas at a brainstorming session.
Let's get started.
I've called this meeting so we can brainstorm some fundraising ideas.
As you know, we're in danger of closing.
Any thoughts?
I thought that Juan was working on getting donors.
He is, but we can't count on that coming through.
How much do we need to raise?
What's a ballpark figure?
We need at least $50,000 for next year.
That's a lot of money, but I think we'll come up with something.
How about a benefit performance?
That sounds promising.
Who can we get to perform?
It would be great to get someone like Barry Manilow.
I think we're shooting too high.
I was thinking more like a local band or comedy group.
I've got it.
My brother works for the improv.
He knows a lot of comedians from this area.
Maybe we can get a few of them to perform.
That would be great.
I like how this is shaping up.
We're out of time, but let's meet again on Friday to hammer out the details.
Thanks, everybody.
The title of this podcast is a brainstorming session.
To brainstorm, be our...
A-I-N-S-T-O-R-M as a verb means that you and someone else, perhaps a group of people, get together and you try to think of ideas to solve a problem.
That is to brainstorm.
And a session, S-E-S-S-I-O-N, is simply the same here as a meeting session.
Well, there are three people in today's podcast having a brainstorming session.
Judy begins by saying, I've called this meeting so we can brainstorm some fundraising ideas.
The verb to call means, of course, you can call someone on your telephone, but we also use the verb to call with words.
The idea of a meeting, I'm going to call this meeting, means I'm going to organize this meeting.
Well, the meeting is to brainstorm some fundraising ideas.
Once again, that verb to fundraise, F-U-N-D-R-I-A-S-E, all one word.
To fundraise means to try to make money, usually for an organization.
A volunteer organization, for example, would have a try to do fundraising.
And the noun for that is fundraiser.
Someone might say, we're having a fundraiser for my church.
So you are trying to make money.
The verb would be to raise money for your organization.
Judy says that their organization is in danger of closing.
In danger of means that it hasn't happened yet, but it could happen.
And it's always a negative thing that could happen.
So, for example, you tell your boss that he is an idiot, that he's stupid.
Well, you are now in danger of losing your job.
So that's the meaning of in danger of.
It's when something bad may happen, there's a possibility it could happen.
Well, in this dialogue, their organization is in danger of closing.
And notice also that we use the ing form of the verb.
So not in danger of close, but in danger of closing. or shutting down.
Stan recommends that, or comments rather, that he thought Juan was working on getting donors.
A donor, D-O-N-O-R, is, as you probably know, someone who gives money.
The verb is to donate, D-O-N-A-T-E.
And Judy says that, yes, he is.
Juan is working on getting donors.
I should probably explain he is working on, and then the ING form, getting.
I am working on finishing my paper.
That means I am trying to, I am in the act of finishing my paper.
Well, Judy says that they can't count on that coming through.
To count on, C-O-U-N-T-O-N, two words, means to depend upon, to rely upon, to think that it is going to happen.
People sometimes say, don't count on it, meaning don't rely on that.
It may not happen.
To come through here as a verb to come through, T-H-R-O-U-G-H means that we use that expression, that verb to come through, talking about someone who is going to help you, usually out of a difficult situation.
And they haven't yet helped you, but you hope that they will help do what they promised to do, and so we would say well, i hope he comes through with that money, meaning he says he was going to find the money, so let's hope he in fact does.
And it's usually used when you're trying to help someone out of a difficult situation.
Dominique says what's a ballpark figure?
For how much money they need.
What's a ballpark figure?
Ballpark B-A-L-L-P-A-R-K all one word.
A ballpark is a place where you play baseball, for example, or football.
It's a big stadium.
But the expression ballpark figure, and figure, F-I-G-U-R-E, just means here number.
We use that expression, a ballpark figure, to mean an estimate, an approximate number.
Someone says, well, I'm not really exactly sure how much.
And you say, well, give me a ballpark figure.
That means an estimate, a guess.
It may not necessarily be true, but it's a guess, a good guess.
That's a ballpark figure.
Judy says they need $50,000.
Dominique says that's a lot of money, and she suggests a benefit performance.
A benefit, B-E-N-E-F-I-T, performance.
A performance is usually a show or, for example, you could have a symphony orchestra or a band or a play.
All of these could be performances.
It's when they actually sing or dance or whatever it is.
Well, a benefit performance is a special performance where people pay money to see the entertainment, the performance, and that money goes to the organization to help the organization.
Stan says this sounds promising.
That expression, it sounds promising, means it sounds like it's a good idea.
It sounds like something that will actually work.
You can also say it looks promising.
For example, I went on an interview for a new job.
Because I told my boss he was stupid and he fired me.
And the person, my friend says, well, how does it look?
And I say, well, it looks promising, meaning I think I may get the job if I can keep my mouth shut.
Dominique says, we're shooting too high because Judy recommends getting Barry Manilow as a singer.
Barry Manilow is an American singer from the 1970s and 80s.
I guess he is still alive.
And Barry Manilow must be in his 90s, I think.
Anyway, he is a famous American pop singer.
And Dominique says, I think we're shooting too high.
To shoot S-H-O-O-T too high means or we also say to aim A-I-M too high means that you are trying to do more than is possible, trying to get a big, famous singer.
That's not going to be possible.
It's shooting too high.
It's too difficult.
Stan recommends that they try another solution.
He says, I've got it, meaning I have an idea.
I have the solution.
His brother works for The Improv.
And improv, I-M-P-R-O-V, is short for improvisation.
And it's a place where you have comedians, where people get up and tell jokes.
And there's actually a place here in Los Angeles called The Improv and it's a place where you can go see famous comedians.
Well, Stan says he knows a lot of comedians, and a comedian C-O-M-E-D-I-A-N.
Is someone who tells jokes better than me.
Judy says, I like how this is shaping up.
To shape up, S-H-A-P-E, up, U-P, two words.
To shape up means you like how things are developing.
You like how things are turning out, are progressing, are coming along.
All of those are the same.
To shape up, things are shaping up.
Now there's another use of that verb to shape up, and it's sometimes used to mean to improve yourself.
If your mother says you need to shape up, it means you need to behave better, you need to act better, you need to improve yourself.
Judy says that they're out of time, meaning they have no more time for their meeting, but they agreed to meet on Friday to hammer out the details.
To hammer, H-A-M-M-E-R, out, O-U-T, two words.
Well, a hammer is what you use to put a nail, a little piece of metal in wood, for example.
You hammer it.
It's long and it has a little, usually made of some sort of metal, and it's hard and it's made for hitting.
Well, to hammer out, however, means to figure out, to go over all of the smaller details.
You can use this verb, for example, when you are talking about an agreement or a negotiation.
We're going to hammer out the details, means we're going to figure them out.
We have the big general idea.
Now we're going to talk about each individual item and all of its details.
Now let's listen to the dialogue, this time at a native rate of speech.
I've called this meeting so we can brainstorm some fundraising ideas.
As you know, we're in danger of closing.
Any thoughts?
I thought that Juan was working on getting donors.
He is, but we can't count on that coming through.
How much do we need to raise?
What's a ballpark figure?
We need at least $50,000 for next year.
That's a lot of money.
I think we'll come up with something.
How about a benefit performance?
That sounds promising.
Who can we get to perform?
It would be great to get somebody like Barry Manilow.
I think we're shooting too high.
I was thinking more like a local band or a comedy group.
I've got it.
My brother works for the improv.
He knows a lot of comedians from this area.
Maybe we can get a few of them to perform.
That would be great.
I like how this is shaping up.
We're out of time, but let's meet again on Friday to hammer out the details.
Thanks, everybody.
Thank you for listening to today's podcast.
It was written, as always, by Dr. Lucy Say.
We also want to thank Dr. Marlene Rodriguez, who helped us with reading the dialogue today.
Thank you, Marlene.
From Los Angeles, California, I'm Jeff McQuillan.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next time on ESL Podcast.
English as a Second Language podcast is written and produced by Dr Lucy Say, hosted by Dr Jeff McQuillan.
This podcast is copyright 2006.
