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This is But Why, a podcast for curious kids from Vermont Public.
I'm Jane Lintholm. On this show, we take questions from curious kids like you and we find experts with answers.
Today we're talking about music and primarily answering this question from Harlan.
I'm seven years old. I'm from Buffalo, New York and my question is how are electric guitars made?
Luckily for you, Harlan, I happen to know someone right here in Vermont where we're based, who makes electric guitars.
I'm Crestin Lee and I'm a guitar builder.
We're at my shop in the south end of Burlington.
So when I build a guitar, I start by cutting out the wood and shaping it just how I want it.
And then I prepare it to spray paint on it.
When the paint's all finished, that's to dry out for a while and I polish it.
And then I put it together and I wire up all the electronics and then I play it and make sure it's just right and adjust anything that needs adjusting and then ship it off to somebody so they can have it for the rest of their life.
Electric guitars, the kind you might see played in a hard rock band, use electricity and an amplifier to make sound.
An acoustic guitar doesn't need electricity.
Acoustic guitars are usually made of thin wood that's cut and bent into a guitar shape with a thin back.
They have a hollow cavity inside the body.
When you strike one of the strings with your finger or a pick, the string vibrates and that sound goes into the hollow cavity where it reverberates or echoes around and is naturally amplified.
But electric guitars get amplification from an electronic amplifier so they don't have to have a hollow body.
Both electric and acoustic guitars can still use speakers to make the volume louder if the musician is playing in a big concert hall or a stadium.
So both of them might be wired to make sure that everybody in a place can hear them, but electric guitars use electric amplification and acoustic guitars use natural amplification by the way the body of the guitar is made.
Now Harlan's question was about electric guitars, so we wanted Creston to explain his process to us.
At his shop he makes about 60 to 65 guitars each year by hand.
It smells like a wood shop when you walk in.
You can just smell all of that sawdust and wood, which makes sense because he makes the guitars out of wood.
But he's got a room with all kinds of electronics too and a room where he sprays color and other coatings out to the guitars and he even has a room where he can plug the guitar in and play it to make sure it sounds cool.
I don't know about you, but I love seeing and learning about how things are made.
So let's go on a tour of Creston's process.
The guitars that I build tend to be made of solid chunks of wood for the body with a neck attached by screws.
But if you aren't very familiar with musical instruments, you can probably picture what the body of a guitar might be, that rounder, bigger part of the instrument.
And the neck is the long, thin part, kind of like the neck of a giraffe maybe.
Creston has a couple different typical shapes for his guitars.
When I first got started I would make all kinds of, you know, sort of, want off kind of shapes and then I decided that I wanted all my guitars to be different from each other, that I sort of work within maybe seven or eight established shapes for the bodies.
So I have these plywood templates that I made.
So your first step is to take the wood and then put the shape that you're going to cut it out onto it.
So I would, yeah, I would, with a template, I would trace the shape on there and then when my band saw, I would roughly cut it to size maybe just like a 16th or an eighth of an inch oversized.
And then using that same template, taped to the wood, I would bring it over here to this router table and use this cutting bit that has two ball bearings on top of it.
So that rides along the template and the blades cut the body or the neck to shape or the plastic parts that it go and talk to the body.
It's kind of like using a stencil.
So you're cutting out exactly the shape you want.
This question has the outline of the guitar.
He has to use some other saws and tools to cut into the wood, to cut holes and grooves into the main body.
That's to make room for the electronic parts.
And then he's got to make it all very, very smooth.
Standing by hand, usually with sticky back sandpaper on like a rubber block or something, and sometimes a rasp.
And then I started the finishing process, which means going to my spray room and spraying sealers and color, if there's color, and then clear coats of lacquer.
And lacquer is like a kind of a shiny finish.
Yep, that's right. And it's sort of a old fashioned kind of finish that you'd find on instruments or furniture or something, you know, 70 years ago.
And that takes a while spraying a few coats a day for several days.
And then it gets a little bumpy as you apply the coats.
People call that orange peel, because it's got that sort of bumpy texture of it.
Citrus skin. So when I have the right number of coats on there, I'll sand it so it's flat.
And then I spray a couple more coats of lacquer that's been thinned with a lot of lacquer thinner.
But it's not over yet. And you have to sand it with finer and finer sandpaper.
And from there I take it to buffing wheel.
And with two different kind of wax polishes, I shine it up so it's really glossy.
Most of the time. And here's the room where I polish them.
Which is maybe my least favorite part of the job because it's stressful.
Like, you've put all this work into these guitars.
You had the very, maybe the very last day before you assemble the guitar.
And then you're standing in front of this pedestal buffer with two wheels on it.
And at any moment you can burn through the finish and have to start over, or the wheel can catch the guitar and smash it on the floor.
And you're really starting over.
How often does that happen?
Well, knock on every piece of wood in here.
I've burned through finishes but I've never had one get smashed.
But pretty much everybody I know who builds guitars has that tail of woe.
And it's also sort of hard on your body.
You're holding this thing.
It's either too high or too low.
And it's tricky to feel like you're in a good control posture.
So I try and do a couple at a time and then take a break and do other steps.
It's really the part I like the least.
You in this workshop also have some guitars hanging up and one of them is purple and shiny kind of sparkly.
And we're standing in front of what looks like a big container of glitter.
This sounds like you're just having fun playing, making things, painting, using glitter.
I mean, this doesn't even sound like an adult job.
Some parts of it feel like playing around in sandbox.
The glitter, I really love these metal flake finishes.
But when people order them, I have this conflicting emotion of like I'm so excited to spray gold flake all over something.
But it's such a nightmare to keep those flakes out of every other guitar's finish.
So I actually now have two spray rooms and one's just for metal flake, which is sort of an embarrassment of riches.
But it's so nice to be able to just spray and then shut the door and walk away until I'm psychically strong enough to go in there and clean up because it's really, really, really messy.
So what I'm hearing is for any of the adults who are listening, what we need is not to ban glitter from our homes, but just to have a separate glitter room.
You need a whole separate house and that's the glitter house.
And then before you go to home to your other house, you need to spray yourself off of the air hose and then vacuum your clothes and then leave all your clothes at the front door before you go in because it gets everywhere.
I went to the dentist recently and she was working in my teeth and she said, is there a reason why you have glitter all over the back of your neck and up your head?
Yes, because yesterday I was painting a guitar with glitter.
Okay so now we know how the woodworking part of the guitar making goes.
Next up we need the electric components.
And oh yeah, strings. This is But Why and today we're learning how guitar maker Creston Lee makes his much sought after electric guitars.
We visited him in his workshop in Burlington, Vermont a few weeks ago so we could really see what the process is like.
Once Creston has built the base of the guitar, there's still a long way to go before someone can play it.
At this point it's basically just a cool looking piece of furniture.
But it still doesn't have any strings and it wouldn't be an electric guitar without electronics of course.
So we walked across the hall to a room that had a whole wall of shelves filled with little red labeled containers.
This is where I do all the wiring and the final assembly of stuff so I have these racks over here with all the different electronic components, the potential amateurs which are the electronic part underneath the volume or tone knob on an instrument and resistors and capacitors and switches and all the little pieces like that and these bins that have the name of the client on them and those bins hold all the parts on need for the final assembly.
Yeah this room kind of looks like your ultimate Lego fans room where it has little bins and you could put all of the different Lego parts or each different color in them or a space to put all of your crafting crafty stuff.
I think I have all these a couple of bins with lots of different plastic knobs in them because in many cases I don't know what knobs will look best on the guitar until I've completely finished everything else, often the very last step of making the guitars picking up the right knobs so I try to keep a lot of those on hand so I have a lot to choose from.
Can you say some of the names of some of the things in here because I'm seeing some ones that I really like the names of and just looking at them and saying them would be fun?
One of my favorites is the bin that says switch craft which is a brand that's been around for a really long time that makes switches among other things but I like that if you get rid of the essence of witchcraft and then there's three way switches and five way switches there's some four way switches there's all the potentialometers that control the volume of the tone.
I was looking at neck plates I like the idea of neck plates and electro sockets and then I was amusing myself wondering whether that bin you say multi meters or multimeters because it could go either way and then one I saw is a mastery but for a minute I thought it was mystery and that was my favorite box.
I say multimeter but I think maybe if you're British you say multimeter.
Mastery is a brand that makes bridges and vibratoes that I use and the bridge is the part that the that's on the body the string passes over that and every guitar has a bridge and that's you know the two contact points of the string are the nut that's out at the far end of the neck and then the bridge and the string rings between those two points.
So mastery makes kind of bridge that I use a lot and the vibrato is the use that's a piece that sits behind the bridge and the strings anchor in that and has a handle that comes out from it that's attached to a spring and if you wiggle the handle it wiggles the springs and it wiggles the sound.
So this is you're doing the electric in here.
Yeah, this is right do all that all the all the wiring all the assembly and then once it's all put together and I tune it all up and all the measurements are just right then I bring it over to one of these amplifiers and I plug it in and and make sure it works and and get to hear how it sounds for the first time which is always fun and then I can sit there and play it for a while and with a screwdriver will metal around with the electronics and how close they are to the strings and get it just where I like it and then it's finished.
What's it feel like that first moment where you plug it into the amplifier and you get to hear what all of this physical work sounds like?
It's fun because I you know all the guitars that make are different but I've used all the different components so many different times that I sort of know what to expect but it's always just a tiny bit different you know so it's a little bit of a surprise like I just made two guitars the next were both cut from the same piece of wood the two bodies maybe were from the same plank and they're identical except for one little detail but they sound no different you know the reguitar just sounds a little different than every other guitar so it's it's always fun to see where it's going to land.
Do you have to be a guitar player to be a guitar maker?
No in fact there's kind of a long tradition of people who don't play guitar making guitar so it's hard to explain why that is I don't know why they want to spend their lives doing something but I know a bunch of guitar builders who don't play and they're starting that long is a rich history about it too.
Did you start making guitars because you were a guitar player or a woodworker or both?
I was doing both before and then the two interests merged and it never occurred to me that I could do this until I started doing it.
Hi my name is Ruby I'm six years old and I live in University Park, Maryland and I want to know how they make guitar strings.
Oh yeah good question. Well I know a guy who makes strings and the way that he does it is on the lathe which is a tool that is most commonly used for wood or metal and it's like a motor on one side and a spindle on the other side so in case of strings you're taking a long wire, long thin wire and you're stretching it between two points on a lathe and they both spin and then another wire is wrapped around that core wire really tightly so it's a tight coil that goes the whole length of that core and then it's sort of wrapped in the end so it doesn't unfurl.
And one end on most guitar strings they call it the ball end it's not actually a round ball it's a little tiny ring that the string wraps around and that anchors the string either on the inside of a acoustic guitar or in the bridge of an electric guitar.
And why are the strings different?
I guess we would call them not a width of circumference, it's like some of them are thicker and they go thick to thin or thin to thick depending on how you're looking.
The thicker they are the lower the note so like on this guitar that's the lowest, that's the thickest string and then the thinest string there's no one that's tuned to the higher pitch.
And how do you tune the strings or tune the guitar because you have to some people might know or have seen somebody tuning a guitar and their hands right up at the very top of the neck and they're turning some knobs so what are you doing and how does it work?
Yeah on most guitars so the ball end of the string is anchored down by the bridge and then the other end goes around a post that's attached to a gear that's attached to a little handle so like if you turn that...
And you can turn that little handle the knob which turns the post and you get it to just the right pitch so all the strings sound right together.
How do you do that? People can do it in their heads and some people use a little pitch pipe.
Yep well I don't use either one.
I plug mine into an electric tuner that tells me if I've got it just right.
But I've worked on enough guitars that I don't know that my pitch is super great but I sort of somehow between the feel and everything else.
I usually can come pretty close before I plug it into the tuner.
Okay so once you've got a guitar all tuned how do you play because you're not just strumming those six strings?
No you have to get your fingers all in just the right place and that's the hard part of learning the play guitars.
You know it feels super awkward at first and it's frustrating because it seems like everybody you know plays guitar so it should be easy but it's...
I mean you can make some cool sounds pretty quickly as you're learning play guitar but to really get comfortable with your fingers on the strings and holding them down just right so all the notes ring out perfectly that takes a little while.
It takes a little while to learn how to just hold a guitar so that's not uncomfortable.
That's in some ways the hardest part I think for a beginner but you can...
If you hold several strings down and strum them then you have a chord, different notes that sound good together or if you just play sort of one note at a time you can play melody that way.
So one of your hands is strum usually is strumming the strings and sometimes you do that with a little device or sometimes you can do it with your fingers and then your other hand is the one that is moving up and down the neck to change what notes the strings are making right?
Yeah so the string is anchored between the bridge and the nut, those are the two points that the string vibrates between those two points but the nut is like if...
That's just the string played open meaning I'm not using my left hand at all to hold it down.
But then if I put my finger on there...
My finger sort of becomes the nut.
So as you move along and there's these little bars that go across the fretboard that are called frets and each one of those...
That's the point that the string then rings between the bridge and that fret, whichever fret you're pressing.
So the higher up you go the higher the pitch and the lowest each string goes.
It's just played open or it's ringing off the nut.
And then you can decide if you're kind of style you're playing in whether you want that to slide up and down or go note by note by note.
I mean that's all part of the art of playing right?
Yeah and that's how every player sort of expresses themselves differently and sounds like themselves and not like everybody else.
So that's how a string is made and how it makes noise.
The thinnest strings tend to be just one bare wire and then the thicker strings are the ones that have those other wires coiled around them.
So now we know a little bit about that part and here's one more question to help us wrap it all up.
My name is Kavan. I'm from Ireland.
My age is four. And my question is how does guitar work?
Yeah, we've spent a lot of time learning about how an electric guitar is made but how does it actually make the sound?
Well one thing a lot of people wonder about is sort of how the sound of this plinky little string like this is what the amplifier turned off.
It isn't very loud and then if you turn it up, you can be as loud as you want to be.
You know you can shake the house down and that's these things that are called pickups that sit on the body of the guitar and there's all kinds of different pickups.
You could put a pick up in an acoustic guitar or any kind of guitar.
It can be amplified and the pickups are magnets with wires wrapped around them and if you've ever messed around with a magnet you know that you can feel it pulling on something before it actually makes contact with a piece of metal.
So that's a magnetic field.
So the magnets have an invisible cloud around them that's magnetized.
So the strings I'll pass through this magnetic field and sort of the magic of electric guitar or any guitar with a pick up is when you pluck the string and it vibrates it kind of disturbs that invisible cloud and that gets that disturbance gets kind of read by the tiny little wires that are wrapped around the magnet and that's sent out to the output jack of the guitar through a cable and to an amplifier which takes that tiny tiny little signal and amplifies it and blows it up so it's a big sound.
Is there a difference between an amplifier and a speaker or could we kind of say an amplifier is like a speaker?
An amplifier is the part that sort of gives power to that little electronic impulse and makes it bigger and the speaker is the part that actually sends it out into the world so you can hear it.
But when you see some guy like parading around on a stage and like leather pants you know on a giant wall of amplifiers making all this huge sound the actual sound is guitar is making is that's tiny tiny tiny tiny little like mousey squeak that that amplifier is turning into this you know thunder storm.
I love that idea of thinking about playing an electric guitar like a thunder storm.
I hope you enjoyed learning a little bit about how electric guitars are made.
Preston says if you want to learn how to make guitars yourself there are lots of great books you can use and some schools you could even go to.
He says the internet can be great too but there are a lot of people who know a little bit about guitars who try to tell you they know a lot so find someone that you trust to give you good advice.
Also if your high school has a wood shop you might want to learn some basic woodworking skills when you get into high school and if there are any looothiers people who make stringed instruments who live or work around you see if they'll let you check out their studio like Preston did with us.
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