Hey weirdos, I'm Elena.
I'm Ash.
I'm Sam.
And I'm Colby.
And this is A Very Special Morbid.
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Yeah, it is.
Let's go.
We have special guests, Sam and Colby.
You might know them from YouTube.
Maybe.
Unless you're old like me.
When I found their video for the first time, I was like guys, you have to watch this YouTube channel.
Thank you so much.
They're so funny.
Their names are Sam and Colby.
And our listeners were like, yeah.
Alina, they've been around for like 100,000 years.
100,000 years.
They have a million zillion followers.
And I was like, oh.
Well, thank you for having us.
Thank you for being here.
Good to have you in our real podcast studio.
Yeah.
Not that bank vault that we were in.
That we were all sweating in.
This is a beautiful studio.
Thank you.
We've really, you know, we've added to it.
We've made it a little more plush and cozy.
Got the spooky vibes for some haunted October stories.
Hell yeah.
What were we calling it?
Because it's pre-October now.
Oh, I'm calling it Proctober.
So we were saying Proctober, so we were saying Goody Proctober.
Yeah, no one needs September.
It's Proctober.
We've branded it that now.
We know what we're doing around here.
It's no longer September.
It's Goody Proctober.
Yep.
That's the end.
Don't question us.
No one really likes September.
It's just all about October.
Because everybody's just waiting for October.
Have the leaves changed yet?
Come on, let's pick some apples.
Let's go.
Let's get to it.
Are you an apple picker?
I love picking apples.
Wait, I love that that's like a classic.
Like, are you an apple picker?
Have you guys gone apple picking?
Never in my life.
Shut the fuck up.
You're missing.
Why did we not take you apple picking?
Okay, we're adding that to the itinerary next time we hang out.
Okay, let's do it.
We have to.
Never picked an apple?
That's like a New England thing we take for granted, I think.
Yeah.
I was going to say, driving out here in New England, this is a whole different world.
You were in the forest.
It's crazy.
I mean, you went to a Longhorn for the first time.
We did.
We collectively got that Longhorn.
That's true.
We were all in that Longhorn.
What?
I'd rephrase that.
We ate at Longhorn Steakhouse, guys.
Just kidding.
You were like, um, to clarify.
It's a steak place.
Restaurant.
It's very cowboy themed.
It was a wild ride.
It really was.
But yeah, we need to take you apple picking.
It's an experience.
You get your apple cider donuts.
This is just getting me so excited for all the holidays.
Pumpkin patches.
Okay, so you do do pumpkin patches.
We do pumpkin patches, and we do an annual Halloween party.
Oh, hell yeah.
I'm so stoked.
Every single year.
You guys are invited.
Oh, thank you.
We'll fly out for it.
Love that.
Fly out, go for a rager.
Iconic.
LA in October is insane.
Really?
There's like 100 costume parties all the time.
Oh, I'm sure.
People go all out.
I've never seen anything like it.
It's the only social time of the year for LA for some reason.
Really?
It's like everybody hides in their home all year, and then Halloween happens in all of October.
Yeah.
It's a party after party.
And you can like hide in a costume.
We prep our costumes months in advance.
We have them set up.
We have at least five.
It's like crazy.
Oh my God, I love that.
That's really fun.
So is it just like the one party or do you do like a ton of dressing up?
I mean there's a lot of other parties but we do.
Our annual Halloween party is like one big event at the end of October, which is a celebration of our end of like season.
Because for us, October is like our Super Bowl.
Oh yeah yeah honestly yeah, i would assume too.
Yeah, oh yeah, i know october, now that i'm a mom, has become like because i'm obsessed with making my kids costumes from scratch.
No matter what you make them, i will not buy a costume.
She makes sick costumes.
That's awesome, like sew them and everything.
Yeah, i like learned how to sew for that.
What have you made before?
Like what's your favorite one?
So I made, when they were little, one of my twins wanted to be the moon.
And I was like, okay.
We'll show you pictures after.
She was like, I want to be the moon.
And I think she was like two or three.
And I was like, all right, how do I make this?
So it's not just like the moon.
And it was, I like made like a plushy moon that her face fit into.
So she was like the crescent moon.
And then there was a bunch of like ribbons coming down from it.
It was very proud of that one.
What was the other... We've done... Oh, she was an owl.
An owl.
Yeah, she was an owl.
That was a cute one.
We're doing K-pop Demon Hunters this year, though.
Oh, that's huge.
Good idea.
I had to make a roomy costume, so now I'm making spangly outfits.
There we go.
Yeah.
We need you to make ours like this.
I know.
Tell me what you want to be.
I have an entire like craft room downstairs.
That's just all like costume making things now at this point.
Yeah.
I love how serious you guys like take Halloween.
Oh, I take it so seriously.
Yeah.
Yeah.
From birth, essentially.
And I know there's going to be a time where they're eventually going to be like Mom.
I don't want you to make my costume anymore.
I'm just like, why?
Like, what do you mean?
I'm insulted.
But yeah.
Next time you're coming apple picking, so that you can bake an apple pie with fresh apples that you picked off a tree.
100% down.
Then you guys come to the Halloween party.
Apple pick, and then go to a rager.
Love it.
We show you ours and then we go over there.
Exactly.
Our two different worlds collide.
We swap Halloweens.
Yeah.
There we go.
I love that.
Well, honestly, everybody probably knows who you are and probably knows your YouTube channel.
You have like nearly 15 million subscribers.
Am I correct?
Something like that.
Yeah.
Getting close.
That's absolutely insane.
That's wild.
That's wild.
How many years have you been at it?
Um, we started our YouTube channel in 2014, I believe.
So 11 years.
Wow.
That's the year I graduated high school.
Holy shit.
That's crazy that that's 11 years.
Damn.
That's insane.
Wow.
It's been a wild ride for sure.
But we've been only doing like the haunted stuff for about five, six years.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So what'd you start off as?
So at first we were starting on Vine.
We did a bunch of like comedy videos and stuff like that.
Oh my god, RIP Vine.
Exactly.
I loved Vine.
It was amazing.
We did like public pranks like back in the day.
Oh yeah, I mean.
So we'd like run around on Walmart and like get on the intercoms and stuff like that.
That's fun.
What else are you going to do on Vine?
Exactly.
You only got six seconds.
Then we moved to like YouTube and we started doing like all of like the tags and like I don't know if you remember 2015, 2016 YouTube, where there's like boyfriend, girlfriend tags, like question and answers things like that all over the internet.
All over YouTube.
We were doing like a lot of those types of videos, but ultimately decided to like do what we loved, which was going to abandoned places.
Fun.
We grew up in Kansas City and on the weekends there was not much to do besides like go and exploring abandoned places with, like your friends.
And so we decided to film that out in LA, when we were trying to figure out exactly what we wanted to like genuinely do.
And then that naturally led us into Haunted.
Haunted.
Of course.
Makes sense.
It feels right.
Yeah, right?
It feels like you were made to do this.
It really does.
Exactly.
And you guys have an escape room now?
We do.
Yeah, it just opened up on Hollywood Boulevard, which is insane.
That's badass.
It's wild to think about.
That's crazy.
I remember visiting Los Angeles in 2014 like six months after we started and being like dang, one day we've got to move here.
And walking around Hollywood Boulevard, being like, dang, this would be so cool.
And now we have an escape room on Hollywood Boulevard.
That's crazy.
It's a big full circle moment.
Yeah, for sure.
Seriously, I love an escape room.
I know.
How did that idea come about?
Um, so we had been there in the past.
We actually got, uh, invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there.
I love that.
It's at the, a venue or like a spot called the Escape Hotel.
And so it's like a, just a giant, like, yeah, venue.
It has like a stage and everything.
There's people that perform.
It's like a bar on top and stuff.
And it has a super like creepy ambient vibe to it.
And so like, when we went there to shoot uh, we met like the managers and then our management got in touch, contact with theirs, and we came up with the idea and it took, took a little bit of time but we um, we finally got it.
Like, this past like six months and it's been amazing.
That's so cool.
We've been really interested in trying to get like in person with a lot of these types of events, because i think a big part of why people watch our videos is they feel like they are coming on these adventures with us.
Yeah, and so we're like okay, like how can we actually give people some sort of adventure, some sort of like story?
So, between the escape room and the year before we opened up a uh, a haunted venue, or we bought a haunted venue called for our school in Iowa.
And like so we're just trying to like over over the course of time, just like get people in person and like how do you actually give this experience to people?
Uh, and it's been really an interesting ride.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
It sounds like such a cool idea.
That's such a perfect way to connect with your audience too.
Because it's like a perfect combo of everything.
Yeah.
Because I feel like even people who are like a little hesitant to do like haunted things and are scared, I feel like an escape room is like a safe way.
Exactly.
I love escape rooms.
I don't know about you guys, but it's so good.
I haven't done one since like middle school, but I want to go to one.
You just did one.
We do them so much.
Yeah.
I'm so competitive with them though.
I always want to pick like the hardest level.
When they give you like the levels that you can do them like hardest yeah, i would end up getting locked in there for days.
Yeah, obviously they end.
But if they didn't imagine like our escape room's, like you have to escape, you stay forever.
That's the next step.
Speaking of you, guys should like come out, you should try ours anytime.
So let us know.
And uh, we made it extremely hard for a reason.
Oh hell yeah, and so there's.
You know the percent like success rate.
I forgot, it's like 30.
30%.
Oh.
Mikey's like, I know.
I love that.
Let's go.
That makes me want to do it more.
The lower the success rate, the more I'm like, I'm going to get out of there.
Yeah.
I'll go with you and I'll get it by association.
There you go.
We've put out a challenge that the fastest time to complete it, with no clues by Halloween, gets to be a part of the escape room.
Oh, shit.
So we're putting their faces in there.
So it's going to be really interesting.
No clues.
My face is going to be in there.
You'll have to now.
It's going to happen.
Put the challenge out there.
It's just me.
Zero clues.
Here I am.
Yeah, i love it.
We did one in new york once, john and i, and it was like a it was actually like an old hotel kind of theme and we didn't make it out and i think about it to this day.
I'm so angry.
You're bitter about it still.
Are you blaming john?
I feel like it's your fault.
I'm like you were too slow on that one puzzle.
It was your fault.
Every morning like I remember that escape room.
I'll never forget.
Never forget.
I love it.
Oh, so cool, though.
So, going back, you purchased an elementary school in Iowa Farrar, Iowa and you lived in it for like a week.
We did.
Yeah, that was our way to announce it to the world.
It was like...
We bought it.
We realized there was a lot of renovations needed, because one of the biggest reasons that we bought the place is because it was about to be demolished.
There was threatening of demolition because it was kind of breaking down.
It was a really old building, over 100 years old.
And so we had to repair it.
And then we're like OK well, we want to open this up for investigations because again, one of our big goals is to give these people the experience of investigating themselves.
And so, okay, how do we want to announce this to the world?
Well, let's just do the craziest investigation we can and lock ourselves in our own school.
I cannot leave for an entire week.
That's wild.
It was wild.
Yeah.
And it's pretty interesting there because there's a lot of different spirits.
There's a bunch of like children's spirits who were students like back in the day.
But there's also like a principal sort of like figure who –
Owns the school.
He's a nice guy, but he's also very strict.
Principals.
Exactly.
An elementary school principal.
Exactly.
But then in the gym, there's a boiler room to like the left side of it.
And that has something very, very dark in there.
We believe that there is like a portal.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
We weren't able to close, but yeah, something's definitely dark as well.
Oh, damn.
That's like Frank Krueger energy.
Yeah.
In the boiler room.
It's cool.
Like over the you know perks of owning a spot.
Now we get to see all of the other investigations that are happening there and like react to them.
Oh, that's cool.
And there's like, we have security cameras over there that capture all these things.
We can capture so many like really interesting paranormal evidence.
The energy's gotten darker and darker.
People have been sprinting out of the school, getting threatened all the time.
And we're like, God dang, it's worse than when we came.
God dang, it's insane.
What is in there?
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
But it's been really interesting.
Because unlike...
You know, most of the places that we get to go to are just like for a couple hours at night or maybe an overnight stay.
Like being able to not only go there for the week, but then continually see everybody and then being able to go back whenever we want.
It's just like a much different experience to see.
Yeah.
It's like an ongoing investigation.
Exactly.
We're always used to just like going in for one night, like you guys experienced, and then just filming it, and then that's it.
But like having like a 24-7 like camera system.
Yeah.
Like we're able to like actually conduct research and like, when nobody's there if like, a door opens, like we can see that stuff.
That's so cool.
And we're definitely going to be talking about like that sort of security cam footage, like in the future.
Yeah.
Like those security cameras is like literally caught some crazy stuff, like we've seen full-on shadow figures, We've seen like footsteps.
You know, almost like I didn't get seen Harry Potter.
Yeah, like that map Yeah, like literally things like that, like balls moving out of nowhere where no one's in the room and it's like oh Oh, okay.
Like owning a haunted building, you see some wacky stuff.
I guess so.
Like this was a great idea.
It's super cool.
Last story, like our buddy exploring with Josh, he was filming a video there.
So it's on his channel.
But there's an intercom that goes like around the entire building.
Oh, yeah.
The principal obviously uses to talk to all the students.
And it's only like able to be like turned on in the principal's office downstairs.
And they were all the way upstairs.
And just you could hear it turn on the entire school.
Oh.
And so it's, there's some stuff going on there.
And like, did anybody say anything or was it just like the click on?
No voices.
It just clicked on and had that kind of like loud.
Yeah.
Oh, what the fuck?
That's so scary.
I would hate that a lot.
It's messed up there for sure.
That's so cool though.
It reminds me of like I don't know if you guys have seen Hell House LLC.
I don't need to watch that.
Okay, movies it's a found footage movie, but it's like an amazing one.
It's fun, like very good, and they have to stay in later.
They're like coming up with a haunted house for halloween, but they like buy an old haunted location and they stay in it for a week.
That just made me think of it.
It turned out differently, so i'm glad.
Yeah, it went better for you guys definitely watch that.
Yeah okay yeah, we'll check that out.
That's really good, because as soon as you said you stayed there for a week, i was like you survived.
That's great.
Yeah, thank god, you guys survived a bunch of ghost hunting.
Now we didn't realize since you know our last podcast.
Yeah, ghost hunting more and more often.
Yeah, we got inspired from our uss salem trip.
We had so much fun.
Let's go.
It was so fun.
We were like, as soon as we left that we were like when can we do this again?
Yeah, this was so fun.
What was the first thing we did after that?
Is that probably lizzie borden again?
Right yeah, we had already gone before.
Yeah yeah, we went back there and then yeah, we've done a few Talk about true crime right there.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
It's one of the biggest stories.
I still want to know what happened there.
It's just so heavy when you walk in there like immediately.
You can feel it.
Yeah.
That was one of the darkest places.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially the stepmother's room where she was killed.
Yeah.
That's a gnarly room.
That room and then like the kids room where all the toys are.
That room freaks me the fuck out.
Yeah.
You're talking about like the attic.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So creepy.
Yeah.
There's something weird in there for sure.
Wait.
So with all the places you guys have gone to, do you ever feel like anything follows you or comes with you?
Because you've been to a ton of locations.
I'm like, did you bring something into our office?
So sorry, guys.
We're just going to leave you with a present.
Leave you with a little friend, you know?
A lot of people say that.
It's actually really creepy that sometimes we'll walk up to a place and someone will be like hey, I'm a psychic and you have something attached to you.
And I'm like, oh, I don't like that.
There was one time too, where it wasn't even like.
I think she claimed to be a psychic, but do you remember the story?
We haven't talked about this in so long where we went to a Ralph's one time in LA and there was a random worker there that was just like hey i'm, i'm a fan, like i've been watching your channel and like you have to tell sam that something's following him.
I see it like i saw it in the store and like it was like to our faces and we were like all right, like thanks, thanks for the bananas.
Damn yeah, i remember an old guy and like uh, in a parking lot stopping me and being like you're not gonna be okay.
Oh, and i was like yo do not tell me that just out of nowhere.
And that's it like period, you're not gonna be okay.
Uh, why?
And he's like no, you need to get cleansed.
And i'm like, oh god, have you guys been cleansed before?
We we, we do that a lot more now.
Yeah, i bet yeah, we're taking a lot more precautions and like making sure we're a lot more safe with our investigations that we do.
That's so scary.
But definitely to answer your question.
There's been a lot of people saying things have followed us.
There's been a lot of random people in parking lots and grocery stores.
I don't understand it.
Holy shit.
And definitely, we have a spot in Vegas.
We stay there most of the time.
And that house is definitely haunted, for sure.
Your spot in Vegas, you said?
Yeah, our spot in Vegas.
It's our main residence.
But we'll see shadows going underneath the door and stuff like that.
So sometimes I'll think Sam's walking around, like by my door, and i'm like oh, like he needs to ask you a question or whatever.
Like why not just not open it up?
Nobody there.
We hear noises all the time.
There was one time like we were all like playing a game with some like friends and um, there was like a how do i describe it?
Like a Somebody hit our blind shade or whatever.
You know the ones that you can pull down?
It's not like the shades like this.
It's like the horizontal ones or whatever.
We have that pulled down or whatever and then just somebody punched it.
Randomly.
Imagine this shade has been completely still for like an hour while we were playing this game and then boom, it's like it got punched.
Impacted.
Whoa, we all just turned around like, what just happened?
And not like somebody punched it, like you're punching at the window, but like it's coming this way, if that makes sense.
Oh, like at you?
Through the window, yeah.
Oh, okay.
So it was not like a concave, it was like a convex.
That's perfect.
Wow, that's terrifying.
Did you need to get a new shade?
Well, no, thank God.
Shades are expensive.
Exactly.
Damn.
Wow.
Holy shit.
We've had some like weird things happen in this room.
The other day, in fact.
Yeah.
We were filming, not filming, we were recording like a poltergeist episode.
And in the middle of it, we just have a calendar over there that like never goes off.
And it will like if we complete a task, but we had not completed a task that day.
No, never.
So in the middle of telling the story, it just made this like, like musical sound.
It was like a lullaby sound.
I usually sit where you're sitting, Sam.
I almost went through that.
I was like, oh my God.
I went over there and nothing was on the screen.
It hadn't like given a notification.
It just was like this creepy lullaby sound.
And we were like, it was so loud.
It was like do do do do yeah yeah, we've had weird shit happen.
I'm trying to think of other weird instances in here.
The tv it won't now, but the tv, very slowly yeah, you thought that was hilarious fell on ash's head in the middle of the tv, is like attached to the wall, like it's like it's fully up there and it literally i again i sit where you're sitting and it just crashed onto my head.
What nobody moved, it was like slow motion.
There wasn't a bang, it just literally was like attempted murder yeah, and you were like lol, i could not stop laughing.
You said it was the noise i made.
It was yeah, but we've had little things and i mean this house has a few things, because my youngest i don't know if i don't think i've told you, have i told you guys about skeleton?
I don't think so.
It's like an honorary thing that we tell every guest.
So our listeners are going to be like, Jesus Christ, we're going to hear about Skeleton again.
No, you'll never stop hearing about Skeleton again.
Skeleton, okay.
My youngest, when she was three, I would say.
Maybe even a little younger.
Maybe two or three.
She would come in and tell us that she saw something in her room which we were like oh great, here we are.
And we were like, who is it?
And she was like, his name is Skeleton.
But she would say it like that, like not skeleton, Skeleton.
Like French.
Oh, Skeletone.
His name is Skeletone.
And I was like, Skeletone?
Okay.
And I'm like, what is he?
And she was like, he's a skeleton.
And I was like, oh.
And she's like, and he sits on my bookshelf and watches me.
And I said, okay.
I was like, is he mean?
And she was like, no, he's not mean.
He's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
That's what she said.
I was like, great.
And she said, his bones look old.
And I was like, how do you know that?
Because like you're two or three.
And she said, they're like brown and dark.
How does she know that?
And I was like, why would you know that?
Like, you don't even know what real bones look like.
She's wild.
Oh, my God.
She's the one we were telling you about.
That is my worst nightmare.
And I asked her, I was like, so she sits on your bookshelf?
Like, how does he sit?
And she was like, oh.
She said, he lays like this.
Oh, God.
Which I was like, what are you doing?
Why are you watching my child?
But he's gone now.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He would leave every once in a while.
And I was like, oh, he leaves and comes back.
I was like, he comes back though.
And she goes, yeah, he leaves sometimes to go visit his family.
His family?
He has a family.
Yeah.
And one day he left to see his family and didn't come back.
And I was like, stay with your family.
I was like, found your family.
Even scarier, because who showed up then?
Yeah, so we got rid of Skeleton.
And we upgraded.
She was kind of, she was like, she was like a little bummed.
She was like, oh, Skeleton didn't come back.
And I was like, all right, that's fine.
And then one day...
In the middle of hide and seek, right?
Yeah, my husband and her were probably in hide and seek.
And they were like hiding under a blanket together.
And she was like, oh, I hope the mister doesn't see us.
The mister what?
And he was like, what?
And she was like, the mister.
And he was like, you have to explain to me what the mister is.
Well, and he said like, oh, no, he won't find us.
Yeah, because she explained like he's a guy with no eyes.
Oh, God.
Sometimes he takes the snacks in our pantry, apparently.
What?
Which I think is just her.
Which I think is just her.
She's just like hovering up.
But she said, like, he's a little scary.
She doesn't like him.
And so John was like, oh, he won't find us, like, trying to, like, maintain composure.
And she goes, oh, no, the mister will always find us.
Oh my God.
And he was like, all right, game over.
That's the most ominous shit I've ever heard in my life.
That is horrifying.
Damn.
Yeah.
The mystery will always find us.
She doesn't talk about him anymore though.
Yeah, but if you bring him up, she's like, oh yeah, I remember him.
Yeah.
Like she remembers him.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
And skeleton.
Yeah.
We have a history of like creepy children in this family.
I was a creepy child.
You were a creepy child.
Were you a creepy child?
I don't think I was.
No, actually, yeah, you were because you used to just like sway and talk about flags.
Oh, I used to sleepwalk.
I just sleep.
I was a sleepwalker.
But you were a creepy sleepwalker.
I mean, all sleepwalkers I feel like are pretty creepy.
Yeah.
That is very true.
Yeah.
Sleepwalking is always.
Yeah.
4 a.m.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, thank you.
Yeah.
I used to see a ton of ghosts when I was little.
Yeah, you did.
I saw I used to live at Elena's parents' house because we're like aunt and niece technically but really like sisters.
And that house is haunted as fuck.
Yeah.
It's like an old farmhouse.
I think it's like a hundred years old.
Oh.
Maybe a little more.
I think it's over a hundred years old, yeah.
Yeah.
And I would see like I saw like a little boy one time, like a farm boy, with like a cap and, like you know, like those like old timey pants, and then the socks would be like up.
I saw him like in the corner of our shared room just like reading a book.
And I like woke my mom up.
She was so little when she said this.
I think I was like five probably.
And I still can see it in my head.
Whoa.
I woke my mom up and I was like, the boy is like reading, like there's a boy in here.
He's reading your book.
And she was like, no, no, no, like go back to sleep.
And she woke up and her book was wedged in the closet and she had not left it there.
No.
No way.
Yeah.
And I like hadn't gotten out of bed or anything like.
Jeez.
Yeah.
But it was non-threatening.
It was just kind of like an apparition doing his thing.
Oh, he was chilling.
Yeah.
Okay.
He was just reading the book.
He was probably like, what the hell is this?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
He probably saw you too and has like a story to tell his like ghost friends.
I saw a girl there.
It's crazy.
It's like this girl saw me.
She was telling her mom.
Her mom didn't believe her.
Yeah.
What do you think?
I feel like when we're kids, we are so much more open to seeing spirits and other things like that.
I don't know.
Obviously, every kid has had their imaginary friend, but I don't know.
A lot of me thinks that sometimes they aren't imaginary friends.
We're just much more open to it when we're kids.
Because you're not scared yet, I think.
And you're open to everything.
Kids have no biases.
Society hasn't told you what you have to believe and stuff like that.
So I think they're just totally open.
Did you guys see shit when you were kids?
More so.
Not as like vivid, I think, as those types of things.
But like I used to especially, like you know, fifth grade and below, I'd get like deja vu, like once a week.
It was super weird.
Like to the point where I was like predicting things that were about to happen.
Oh wow, i've seen this thing.
She's about to say this okay, yeah.
And then she just said this it was like super fucking weird, happened all the time when i was a kid.
That's interesting, like less i don't know.
That's weird, yeah.
But now i don't see much.
I only had one really haunted kind of scary experience when I was like super young.
I think I was in sixth grade.
So what, 11, 12, something like that.
And I was really getting into like Christianity for like the first time in my life.
And I was, this was during a time in my life where I was like going to like a Bible like camp.
And I was also like during the weekdays, like I would have like a Bible study on a Wednesday and then go to church on Sunday.
So I was like really just involved with it.
And it's hard to explain, but like...
I had a loft bed, right?
So like it was one of those where you had to like climb the ladder to get on top.
There's like a desk underneath.
And it happened like three nights like in a matter of like a week or two or something like that.
But right before I was about to fall asleep, like right before I was like losing consciousness, I just heard like a – like right in my ear and it like woke me up.
And then I would try to go back to sleep.
And then, like, right in my ear.
Like, to the point where, like, I knew I wasn't, like, dreaming.
I wasn't, like, going crazy.
I ran to my mom's room.
I told her the story.
And that happened again, like, two other nights in, like, a month maybe.
And you're, like, older at that point.
Like, you just said, like, 11 or something.
11 or 12.
Yeah.
Something like that.
And, yeah, still to this day don't know what it was.
But like part of me believes that, like because I was getting into Christianity and stuff like that, like it was something trying to scare me.
Or, like, I don't know.
I have no idea.
But I've told that story like once before.
Oh, that's so creepy.
Yeah.
I don't know what it was.
I want to know what that was.
To this day.
And this never happened to me for the rest.
Speak up.
Yeah, exactly.
Of my life, yeah.
And it was just like a couple nights that it happened?
Yeah, it was...
Again, this was so long ago, so I'm not going to lie.
I don't know.
I think it was, like, it happened, like, two or three nights.
And then, like, it would happen, like, three times.
I mean, that's significant, I would say.
To the point where, again, I went and woke up my mom at 12 years old.
Yeah, no, exactly.
In middle school, like, obviously you don't want to do that.
I'm like, hey, mom, like, there's something breathing in my ear before I, like, fall asleep.
That's so scary.
And it was so bad that I had to wear headphones.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, to go to sleep because I was afraid of something, like, breathing in my ear.
Yeah, yeah.
I would have anxiety.
I couldn't, like, sleep.
Would you, like, feel it, too?
Like, hear it and feel it or just hear it?
It would just be, like, a loud breath.
No feeling.
Yeah.
Damn.
And that's it, too.
No words.
It was just kind of like a, like, wake up.
That's so annoying.
I really hate that.
Someone, like, shitting himself.
I don't like it scary.
No that's, that's terrifying.
And it's the worst when you're a parent of a child who does that because you have to like, keep your shit together.
That's something i'm not looking forward.
To traumatize them by being like that's fucking terrifying.
Like, are you serious?
Like when they first told me about when, oh the when.
The twins yeah, i didn't even think of that My older ones, they haven't really had a lot of things, but they had one.
They just knocked it out of the park.
Yeah, they had the home run with the one thing they had.
We lived in a house that was from like 1860.
So it was like crazy old.
We always felt some stuff there.
It had like a lot of history.
That place was scary.
I used to sleep on the couch in the living room when I would come over and I would like hear shit in the dining room.
There's a lot going on in that house.
And they happen to be in their like first like bed beds, like toddler beds.
So they weren't in like cribs anymore.
And they were like next to the door.
And they just started yelling one night.
And John and I run up the stairs because we're like, what happened?
We thought one of them like fell out of bed or something.
And they're both sitting there like up in bed.
And one of them says like, please get them to leave.
And we were like, what?
Like, what are you talking about?
And she was like... people came in here with scissors and we're trying to cut our sheets.
Oh my God.
What?
John literally, I love John's reaction.
We're standing in the doorway and John just goes, I'm out.
Like he was like, he was like, this one's you.
Okay.
Cause he was like, I'm going to fuck this up.
I can't.
So I was like, okay.
And I'm like, what?
And I'm like, is it a lot of people?
And they're like yeah, a lot of people came in and we're trying to.
A couple of them were trying to cut our shit.
And they're like, I burned my house down personally.
I was like, okay.
And so I'm like, the doorway was right next to their bed.
And then there's this little nook right here where the attic was.
It's like a door to the attic.
It was a very spooky little area.
So I was like, yeah, I wouldn't be scared to.
Yeah.
So I stood in the doorway and I was like, are they in the room right now?
And she was like, no.
And I was like, where are they?
And she goes, right there.
And she pointed behind me.
In the dark ass hallway.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
And so I didn't know what to do.
You're a brave bitch for this.
So I stepped backwards into the nook and I was like, so they're like around me right now?
And she was like yes, i was like okay and i was like listen, guys.
And i just like talked to them and was like you're scaring them, like their kids, this is their house, that's not cool to do.
Like you can't scare them like you can.
And i was like even if you want to come in our room and fuck with us, you can, but like you can't be in this room, this is not okay and like please leave.
That's horrifying and it never happened again.
Like they do, set your boundary.
I do feel like spirits somewhat listen to intentions, you know, or like boundaries.
We had to sleep in their room that night, but it never happened again.
No, we've been told that, like um, even if you can experience really scary things like that um, spirits do have to listen to you.
You can demand them.
Like we always say like, do not follow us home.
You cannot touch me.
That even happened to us like the other, the other night we can get into.
But, um, yeah, like if you, if you tell them like firmly, um, They have to listen.
Yeah.
Yeah, I believe it.
You have the power over them.
Wait, on a scale of like 1 to 10, how much do you guys believe in the ghosts and the paranormal stuff?
Oh, like 350.
Really?
Okay.
I'm a full believer.
Okay.
I just don't think.
Even if spirits, like, quote, unquote, aren't actual people, I think energy goes somewhere.
You know what I mean?
Energy doesn't die, yeah.
Yeah.
It's a fact.
I think I'm, like, a seven or eight now.
Okay.
There we go.
When your kids are saying these types of things, like, are you not, like, just getting bricks?
Yeah, I think when they were saying these, like when the scissors one happened, I was probably like a four or five.
Okay.
That's why I felt a little more comfortable being like, hey, don't be in this room, assholes.
It is so crazy to me that we grew up in the same haunted ass home and that you are not more of a believer.
I know because I just want to like explain it.
I think it's just energy.
I think that's how you explain it.
Yeah.
I think that's why I'm getting more like.
What were mainly the things that brought you from a four to a seven, right?
I think now that we've gone through some of these, like I'd never really done it that much.
So I didn't.
I had like things going on in my own house but I could kind of explain them away in some way.
Yeah.
Or just in my brain, explain them away.
I was like, it's fine.
But these kinds of things like, even like getting touched by something.
I think when we went to the USS Salem, something like blew in my ear.
Oh yeah.
And I fully felt it, like forever.
Fully felt it and did not expect to feel it.
So it like scared the shit.
I think I jumped like 40 feet.
You did like you definitely did, for sure that was terrifying.
I think those kind of things I just can't.
I can't explain that.
How do you explain that?
You know, and feelings now, like going into certain, like Lizzie Borden, going into that house, I was like This feels different.
Right.
We've both been told before.
And I think you were recently told again, like that we're intuitive.
Yeah.
You know, so I do think your start, I think you're more open to it now.
So you're starting to feel it more when we go to these different places.
Yeah.
I think before I was like, no.
Yeah.
No, I don't want it.
You were like blocked off a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah, which kind of goes like full circle to like the kids and stuff like experiencing this, because it's like you're just more open in general.
I think like spirits or the energies, whatever you want to call it out there can like tell if you're like closed minded?
And there's actually a term of it called like a blockhead where you just won't believe it.
So they don't even try.
So they're like, oh, this guy's not going to believe.
But if you are open to it, that's when stuff starts happening.
That makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense actually, because i try, when we go into these places, to be as like open-minded as possible, because i'm like well, if i'm gonna experience it, i should experience it right yeah yeah, don't try to be like the asshole who's like i'm not gonna believe it.
Yeah yeah, like i'm just i'm not gonna try to debunk everything.
Yeah, that's what we tell all of our guests, that when we walk in, it's like hey like if, if we notice them being like kind of like a blockhead, it's like well, you're not gonna get anything if you're literally going out to deny it.
You know, when we first started ghost hunting, we both like really didn't believe in the paranormal side of it much uh, and we didn't get much, you know.
But then when we really were out there like okay well, you know, put the cameras off, let's actually try to get something to happen, just purely out of interest.
Yeah, that's when we started getting stuff.
Yeah, so it's like that's always the best way to go about it when ghost hunting and all these different things.
Yeah open-minded, like let things happen, Makes sense.
That's the thing.
When you just let it happen, it happens.
It sure does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like when we were at Lizzie Borden and we'll get into our little game in a second.
But when we went to Lizzie Borden, we were all sitting.
We were with Corinne and Sabrina from Two Girls, One Ghost.
And we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room.
That's where we were.
Yeah, the dining room.
And we were all just reading from the guest book where people have put their experiences.
And I think Sabrina was reading them out loud.
And she was like let's just see what happens if I read these things out loud and see if anything happens.
We were alone in the house.
We had booked the whole house just for the four of us.
From upstairs, a woman's voice yelled something so clearly.
It was like, who's there?
Wasn't it?
It yelled like, who's there?
And it was a woman's voice.
And you can hear it on the camera because we had like a camera just sitting on the.
I literally got chills just thinking about it.
Because you can see us on the camera, all of us, just be like, what was that?
And we searched.
Nothing was up there.
No one was up there.
You were so scared to the point where, like, Elena thought somebody broke into the house.
Yeah, I was like, is there somebody in here?
That is terrifying.
That's what I was more scared of.
I was like, is there, like, a real person in here?
Way more afraid of real people.
Definitely.
It was so clear, though.
And we weren't really trying to do anything.
We were just reading the experiences and just sitting there.
And I was like that was the clearest thing we had heard all night.
It was gnarly yeah, horrifying.
It was so scary.
Were you guys filming too?
Yeah yeah okay, i think we have that on camera, we do.
Wow okay okay, i was eating starburst so i didn't hear it.
Like, did everyone hear that?
Yeah yeah yeah, it was terrifying.
But on the on the thing, like the recording back, you can hear it fully.
Oh yeah, you can't.
Yeah oh, my god, you just can't make out what she's saying.
Yeah, but you can hear like a voice in the distance.
It was terrifying.
Horrifying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God.
It's the noises when they're like outside, like even like when we were doing it, and the noises that were happening like in the distance.
Yes.
Those are the things that freak me out.
And you guys still get scared.
Oh, yeah.
Which is like surprising in a way.
Yeah, there's some some things that were like okay, like we've heard these types of things before, but there's always stuff That's new.
Yeah, it's like, you know, like jarring.
Yeah, it's the story that really freaks me out.
So, even though I've been doing it for years, like some would think that we'd would get used to it But it's, it's not the case, cuz I will spend like a week beforehand like researching it, studying it, watching YouTube videos, all that, and so like we're kind of prepping ourselves to let go.
And so when we walk in we're like, oh man man, we've already learned so much about this place and that's what makes it freaky.
That makes a lot of sense, yeah.
Because you're just so familiar with every facet of the house.
You know everything about the story, and so when you've heard that there's, for example, a door slamming or something like that, and then that happens to you, it just ultimately makes it ten times more scary.
Yeah, for sure.
And you're like, what's coming?
When it's outside the room, I'm like, is it coming here?
And what are we going to do when it presents itself?
How do I fight this thing?
Exactly.
Of all the places you've gone to, do you have a favorite?
Like in terms of like most scary?
Yeah.
Or just like one that I would say most scary or that you like had the most crazy experiences at.
Oh, that's really interesting.
Hmm.
I mean one like personally, the thing that scares me the absolute most is an upcoming video that we have.
We went to the Paris catacombs.
Oh, stop it.
It's 200 miles of the largest graveyard in the world.
Six million dead bodies buried underneath Paris.
And it's just miles and miles of a labyrinth of dead bodies, different like caves, systems and everything like that and there's no map, and so you can get lost so easily, so easily.
We know so many people that got lost that you know got threatened to be robbed.
There's gangs down there, people die down there.
It's really rough uh, in terms of just like the physical danger, and then you got to think it might be one of the most haunted places in the world.
Oh yeah, six million dead bodies down there, for sure, all the ritualistic stuff that's gone down there.
Oh yeah really really uh, dark things.
But i we've known about that for a long time and i've pushed off that video for i think five years now.
I was like i cannot do it this year.
I cannot do it this year.
I need to muster up some more courage.
And we finally went for uh, this year's like how weak series and like it was genuinely terrifying, like literally walking around next to hundreds of bones that you know used to be people and like, just like us, and it's really eerie feelings.
And not only that, like our investigations were like absolutely horrifying.
We got a little crazy.
We like tried to record evps basically just sound recordings.
You play it back and sometimes there's, you know, recordings of things that you can't hear with a human ear and And there was literal guttural screams back at us.
And then sometimes like saying full sentences back to us.
And we're like, what is going on here?
I've never heard anything like it.
It was genuinely terrifying.
And like that place didn't just have paranormal danger but obviously it was like illegal to go down there.
And then there's these people that like live down there called catified.
And they'll steal your map and your flashlight and shit.
Yes!
I am so obsessed with that idea.
Did you come into contact with anybody?
We ran into one guy.
Shut up!
What's really scary is we went down there with a couple buddies and they were like we're not going to tell you certain things that we know about this place until afterwards, just for the sake of your mind.
Oh my.
That's really creepy.
So we leave and he goes, okay.
His backpack, his food, his water, everything stolen from him.
And he got left deep in the catacombs by a guide, purely just like, I just want to rob the guy.
And all he had was 10% left on his phone battery.
Stop it.
And then one little flashlight.
And he was down there for hours and hours and hours just waiting aimlessly walking around, before someone luckily found him.
And he made it out alive.
But he could have easily died.
Oh, yeah.
No food, no water, no nothing.
And I was just another random YouTube explorer that just went down there.
I'm like, I want to go film a video just like we did.
And his guide left him?
Is that what you said?
Yeah.
The video's on YouTube.
Holy shit.
Shout out Nightscape, I believe his name was.
I have to see this.
You have to watch it.
It's like... probably one of the scariest youtube videos i've ever seen because it's so real yeah like he's by himself completely no food no water and he needed he was like uh from england so he didn't know like obviously like the french language or anything you can't even communicate yeah so scary i would just sob i think i would just sit down like i'm just sit down and cry And, like, if your light goes out, it is pitch black.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's a cave.
Not only are you in a labyrinth and you have no idea what's going on, it's pitch black.
So you literally can't see anything.
And it's like a pitch black you can't conceive of.
Oh, yeah.
Because it's like we don't exist in that pitch black.
Uh-uh.
Like, you could have your finger right next to your eyeball and you could not see it.
Not even, like, sense it there.
It's insane.
That's horrifying.
Claustrophobia.
Yeah.
And, like, wading through waters that go up to your chest and stuff that's freezing cold.
Did you guys have to wade through water?
Yeah.
Wow.
So we were completely soaked.
We had to like, it's so funny.
You basically like in public on a busy street, like climb through a manhole.
Yeah.
And you're just like out of there.
It's like when we were like making our escape finally, we were like, crawling out there like completely dirty drenched like soaked and people were like looking at us like oh my god they probably see it all the time just like people coming out of manholes like all fucked up exactly yeah that's crazy like a army crawl like on our hands and stuff like that for probably a football field or more like at a certain time just to get from one cave to the other was it like tight yeah like you had to essentially cave dove yeah basically you had to push your backpack what's that movie um the descent the descent have you ever seen that where they go like cave dive oh you gotta watch i don't like those movies that's so scary to me they are so scary there is a movie based on paris catacombs as above so below we covered it on scream oh my god yeah horrifying i watched that on the plane going i was like i want to be fully immersed and you were i bet i was like no thank you i'm just gonna take a nap real quick do you have a favorite um There's so many, like, cool spots that we've been to.
We've been all, like, around the world doing this stuff.
So there's, like, really cool locations, like castles and stuff.
But in terms of, like, just one that comes to mind is... Have you guys been to Villisca?
No.
Or talk about Villisca?
I... That is...
Yeah.
That's like my bucket list.
Initially, I said that I wouldn't go, but I think now that we're getting more into it, I would.
Yeah.
I'm really, I'm dipping more into these things.
Like I agreed I'll do like a Ouija board now and stuff.
Whoa.
I know.
Let's go.
That's a big step up.
We covered Villisca.
Okay.
Like the case.
So you know the story behind it.
Yeah.
I kid you not like out of all the haunted places that we've been personally, that one Talking about feeling.
When I walked in there you can feel how evil and heavy it is.
I'm sure.
Because it involved a lot of children and stuff.
Like a lot of messed up things happened in that house.
And like, what was it?
Eight people?
You guys remember?
Yeah.
It's been a while since we covered it, but I think you're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's still like blood on the ceiling and stuff, right?
Yeah, and the axe marks.
Yeah, because he used like the blunt side to murder.
So you can see like the chops in the ceiling.
And what's interesting, like what makes it scary is it's like just in a random neighborhood.
So it looks like just a normal little community, a tiny little neighborhood next to a bunch of other houses.
But then you walk in and it's dark.
It's like a different world.
Yeah.
It feels so dark.
I feel like the energy in there.
I want to go actually.
Yeah, you guys have to.
Gnarly.
You have to try it.
I know we have to.
All right.
So obviously you guys have worked with like a lot of psychics and mediums throughout your endeavors.
So we wanted to tell you some of the most wild techniques that we found from throughout the years.
Okay.
Okay.
So just a couple of like interesting like Victorian era seance.
Nice.
Yeah.
They used to do some weird stuff.
And they were like diabolical.
There was a couple that I'm like, you guys are assholes.
Really?
Okay.
So we're talking about some like scam artist type of stuff.
Yeah.
Big time.
Big time.
So I'm going to start with possibly the craziest one that we saw.
Yes.
The ectoplasm of it all.
So mediums in the early 1900s.
What?
The ectoplasm.
So mediums in the early 1900s said basically, when ectoplasm started leaking, that was the signal that they had tapped into the spirit world.
That's how you knew like shit was going down, you know?
Damn, that happens to us all the time.
Just all kinds of goo.
So it would sometimes include a gauzy substance leaking from all kinds of places on the medium their ears, their mouth, their nose, their eyes and apparently sometimes even their genitalia.
And I have a picture of that.
It's safe for work, but kind of.
Oh, what the...
How do they do that?
It's a lot.
Yeah.
Damn.
Has that ever happened to you?
Have you experienced that?
I had some goo coming out of my pants at all.
It was insane.
It was crazy.
Almost that much.
We were wild.
It was wild.
Dope.
You were like, damn, the ghosts are here.
Yeah.
Please stop.
Something is happening.
Please stop.
It would not stop.
So eventually when this like really got popular, the term ectoplasm was coined.
I don't know what the fuck they were calling it before.
Oh, God.
God only knows.
But yeah, that term was coined by French physiologist and psychical researcher Charles Richet.
So as soon as the white viscous fluid started leaking from wherever it did, that's when you knew that the spirits were in town.
I guess what the medium said the purpose of the fluid was during the seances was that it would turn into like the face of a person trying to be contacted from the other side.
Yeah.
It would face in the goo.
They'd see faces in the goo.
And we'll get into why.
They really investigated the goo.
Sometimes the goo would be like a limb.
Like it would look like an arm, like a disembodied arm.
Or sometimes it could be like a full body figure.
Oh.
Of the goo.
That is a lot of goo.
Damn.
A lot of goo.
I did not know this much ectoplasm existed.
I didn't either.
Yeah.
So now?
The interesting thing about this though, is that apparently, the mediums would tell you this would only work in the dark.
The lights could not be on.
And you could not get close to them while this was happening.
Can't see.
And if you turned on the light, they were like, oh, it's just going to disintegrate.
So we got to keep it super dark up in here.
So Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic of this practice and he called out mediums and basically how they got to getting the ectoplasm to come out.
He said they were swallowing all kinds of things like cotton mixed with goose grease cloth gauze, muslin and sometimes sheep's lungs, what they would like.
Mix all this shit together like it makes me think of just like paper mache yeah and, but they would ingest it, or they'd like stick it in their ears and they'd have like wires that they could pull like, obviously without showing whoever they were reading, and that's when it would start to flow.
I don't know about how they like how that picture came to be.
Imagine being that committed to the bit yeah, like you, are that committed to the scam?
Yeah.
That you're willing to swallow chiffon and sheep's milk.
Or put it in places.
Yeah.
Or put it in places.
Put it.
Yeah.
And just allow it to like.
I'm not committed to that bit.
No.
Yeah.
Because they would essentially just like make themselves sick in the cases where it came out of their mouth.
They would just like throw up sheep's lungs at you.
Like regurgitate it out.
Yeah.
So one of the mediums who was famous for this was Marthe Barad.
She was also known as Eva C. or Eva Carrier.
She was actually said to be the first person to introduce this practice.
And sometimes she would even include like little pictures of people so that when it started leaking out, people would look at the photos and be like, oh my God, that's my grandma.
Oh my God, that's my cousin Beth who died like seven years ago.
What?
But she eventually got exposed when people realized that the photos were of celebrities from magazines and she would cut them out and like disguise them somehow.
What?
Yeah.
Eventually, somebody during a seance was like wait a second, this is like a king from like another country.
This is not my grandpa.
Whoa.
And she got called out.
Wait, so you're saying they would like eat the paper and then like regurgitate it?
Yeah, so she would.
Basically she used, I guess, sheep's lungs mixed with like other stuff like muslin and that kind of thing.
And she would like crinkle up pictures into it.
So then when they would, you know, go through the goo, they would see the pictures.
Oh yeah, now was she someone who like puked it out, or did she like piss it out?
Was she one of which?
So i think she was.
This isn't her.
Here's another one.
So some people were puking.
Yeah, i think she did all kinds of things with her ectoplasm.
I think she was one of the uh, These people.
Oh, my God.
As well.
Okay.
I think it was just coming out of everyone.
Imagine somebody peeing out your grandma.
Yeah, that's insane.
That's kind of insane.
Or what you think is your grandma.
And then you're like, that's just the king of England.
Yeah.
That's a man, not my grandmother.
That's a man.
Yeah.
So that was our girl.
That's crazy.
Wow.
Eva.
That's ectoplasm.
It's so funny.
We were doing this investigation in Australia at a prison.
We did this whole investigation.
Three o'clock in the morning, the owner walks in.
He goes, you guys want to see something cool?
Hell yeah.
For sure.
He goes if you don't tell anybody, i have ectoplasm.
I have never heard of someone having ectoplasm.
I keep it in a jar.
Of course you're a jar of liquid.
I have to see like we gotta do this.
We're the couple other buddies, and so 4 am walk into this guy's like back office and he pulls out this jar of clear, looking weird goo liquid and it's in this, like you know, mason jar and he's like i've been keeping this for ages.
Where did you get this?
You're like i have a lot of follow-up questions.
I'm like i i don't know if i want to know, but like also what i've never we've.
We've seen a lot of interesting characters, but we've never had someone present their ectoplasm.
Ectoplasm in a jar and we might keep this special just to show people.
Damn.
Did he say where he found it?
He said it was like he found the goo on some table, right?
Yeah.
Like after, just like the Seance stories, like after like a big investigation, like there was just goo that appeared.
It was just goo on the table.
And he just said, you know what, I'm gonna keep this.
He just scooped up some of this goo and threw it in a jar.
He got on a spatula and just got it into the jar.
No, the vibe I get from him is just straight head.
Just straight head.
Yeah, he didn't even.
Yeah, give me that goo.
So you held it?
I reached for it.
The jar, that is.
Yeah, and he was like, you're going to touch my goo.
And I was like, I'm so sorry.
You're going to touch my goo.
I'm so sorry.
He said, you can look, but don't touch.
But he was like, yes, sir.
Mysterious.
Oh, damn.
How do you leave that conversation?
We were like, thanks.
We're going to go do our last investigation.
Yeah.
That was so bizarre.
Damn.
It was exactly the color that you would imagine.
At least he presented it in a jar and didn't present it in the lake.
He didn't just lift it up.
Or just leak it out of their nose or something.
Yeah, that's wild.
Also, I'm now hearing him say that in an Australian accent in my head.
Oh, I didn't even think of that.
You want to see my goo?
Don't touch my goo!
Please!
You're going to get roasted for our Australian accent.
Oh, no.
Sorry.
Damn.
I want to see ecto.
No, I don't.
I changed my mind.
I kind of do.
I'll hear about it.
I just don't want to.
I don't want to experience it happening, but I'd see that guy's jar of ectoplasm.
I'd look at that guy's jar of goo.
I'd be like, please, let me see.
Damn.
Well, mine are not nearly as like wild as that.
So I was just going to talk about spirit trumpets, which just seemed to me like silly.
They were like these little cone-shaped trumpet things.
They would be like cardboard or metal.
And they used it.
It just made me think of those like cartoons where, like they would put like a giant horn to their ear.
Yeah.
And they would put a horn to their ear and say that they were like hearing the spirits talk to them.
And then they would use the horn to like, distort their voice and pretend that the spirit was speaking through them.
And sometimes they would levitate it with like wires and shit.
And if it was an audience, they would have it levitate over to the person that was getting the message.
So they would just like, and it would be like little kids, sometimes under a table, who were like controlling.
At their night job.
Yeah, just like you know moonlighting as a scam artist, and they would just have it float over to the person that the message was for and like it would just come plop by your ear.
That's pretty high tech, that's pretty awesome.
I kind of want to see that.
But it had to be dark so you can see like always yeah, when you're scamming it's dark always yeah, always.
So there's that one that was just silly to me, that i was like i just pictured this little like trumpet floating through the air.
It's like you got a message And then one that was diabolically evil to me and they did it a lot was sometimes they would embed, they would like make the candles themselves and they would put if they were doing a reading for, like specific people, they would put the perfume or cologne of the person's loved one in the candle wax.
So when they burned the candle, they would smell the cologne or perfume and they would think that the person was there.
That's a crime.
And I was like...
What?
That's fucked up on another level.
That's so messed up.
Also, how do they know the person's perfume?
I don't know if they would do like a... There was only three back then.
Maybe that was it.
Luck of the draw, I guess.
Yeah, they didn't have to worry about like the whole perfume center.
Sephora, I guess.
There was like Chanel.
Worry about, but...
Some oil.
Just like a flower.
That is pretty messed up.
Can you imagine?
And they'd bring it up.
They'd be like, oh, I smell something.
And the person would be like, that's my husband's cologne.
And they'd be like, well, he has to be here.
And I'm like, you have to be the nastiest person to go with that.
I won't commit to the bit enough to piss out ectoplasm.
And I will not commit to that bit either.
I'm glad that you're not willing to piss out ectoplasm.
That's a good quality about you.
I'm standing on business right now and I will not do that.
Just hold it in a jar.
Hold it in a jar.
But I will not produce it.
We were just talking about that.
How it is so fucked up to think there are people that make money on telling you about your dead loved ones when they have absolutely no idea.
Yeah yeah, that is fucked up like sylvia brown, because it's like how do you?
How do you just go to sleep after that?
Yeah, you know, because you know you're lying.
Yeah, exactly how do you?
How do you live with yourself?
Or do you think they get to the point where they think they're onto something?
I think that happens to a lot of people.
Yeah, definitely.
I think they might know that they're deceiving, potentially, but they're also helping people out.
They probably justify it in their head by being like oh well, it's making them feel better to get these answers, when in reality they're just lying to you.
Yeah, just muddying the water.
Yeah, that's how they justify it.
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
I've been getting... I'm like on a Sylvia Brown kick right now.
I love it.
Because I'm getting them on my TikTok for some... I don't know where they came from.
I don't know how this happened.
Now you're going to get more because we're talking about it.
Oh, I already am.
I'm on like Sylvia Brown talk all of a sudden.
It's like people just started like She was like this psychic from.
She used to be on all these talk shows, like she was always on, like Montel Williams or like Sally Jessie Raphael, like you know those kind of daytime talk shows, and she would go on there and she would like, but she would help with like investigations and like tell her she wouldn't help with investigation, she would give her input, she was helping And she would like talk to like family members of people who are missing or murdered and like give them information.
And there was a couple of times that she was so wildly wrong that it was like crazy.
Like one.
There's a clip of her and it's one lady talking about her husband or her boyfriend or fiance.
I forget which one.
And she was like, he died.
And, you know.
I just like I need some closure.
I need to know where he is.
We were never able to get his body.
And she doesn't tell her anything else.
And Sylvia Brown looks at her and says, well, that's because he's in the water.
And she was like, and you can see her.
She loves telling people that.
Oh yeah, she loves that.
She'll throw you in the water no matter what.
But she says, she's like, water, honey.
And so she's like, honey, he's in the water.
And you can see the lady be like, what?
And she goes, well, it was 9-11 and he was a firefighter on 9-11.
So like, so how do you get in the water?
And you can see Sylvia Brown be like, She said, damn, my go-to is not working.
Yeah, I don't know.
He's in the water.
Like, she just commits to it, but you can see it.
She's like, fuck.
Like, she's like, I fucked that up.
But she just commits, and you can see the lady's like, okay.
And just sits down, and I was like, you asshole.
Yeah, that's so bad.
Like, you just throw that their loved one's in the water to them.
Like, the worst kind of outcome that you can think of.
She said that to another parent of a case that we covered.
And wasn't the girl, like, still alive and being held captive?
I think so.
She's done it a couple of times.
Yeah, like...
Once the water trick doesn't pan up for you one time, you think you'd move on.
Once you fail at it like that, you need to retire the water.
Don't use that one again after you hear that.
It was 9-11 when he died and he was a firefighter.
I was like, what?
How do you fuck that up so bad?
Sylvia, honey.
Sylvia, I'm telling you, go on Sylvia Brown TikTok.
I'm about to.
You'll get all these awful clips.
That actually would be so cool to see a compilation of all the mediums just failing horribly, just catching them in the act.
Oh, God.
Because you can see it on there.
You can see the panic set in for a second, but she recovers so fast and just commits.
That's crazy.
So personal.
That's a thing.
I would die.
I would just start crying.
I would never be able to do that.
I couldn't deceive someone like that.
No naming names, but have you ever worked with a medium and been like, I don't know.
There's definitely a lot of like interesting characters.
Yeah.
I mean, we've been doing this for years.
That's the thing.
There's a lot of people that like, there's like no way that that can be correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So definitely a couple.
Yeah.
But then on the flip side, have you had things be like, holy shit.
Yeah, one thousand percent.
Yeah, i mean, we've experienced that, i was gonna say as a group, but yeah, one thousand percent.
Yeah, so it's like.
Yeah, i believe in some, and then i think some are scam artists.
That's what i think.
That's pretty much what i think too.
I do think people have that ability.
Yeah, like mediums especially, i feel like.
But i think there's a lot of people who are just kind of looking for the money.
Yeah yeah, i think i'm like by 90, maybe 80, 85 are fake really, and then honestly, i believe that because i think most people do it for the money.
Yeah, i think the people that are out there that are doing it genuinely to help people and you can tell that they're either not taking it for the money or like it's not their main gig, it's just like a side thing that they do i think those people are a lot more believable.
Yeah, the people that are doing it for the research and stuff like that, i think that's much more believable.
But like all little mom and pop shops that are like a psychic, 50 off today yeah okay, how are you right, you're just trying to make ends meet actually.
Yeah uh, so it's.
It's much different.
I've definitely been to psychics and had them tell me things and i've been like what?
Yeah, that's not accurate at all.
Yeah, yeah.
But then on the flip side, i've been to psychics and they've like predicted things in my life that have happened and i've been like holy shit yeah, oh yeah.
When we first started i was like yeah sure, someone can tell the future.
But now i'm like, oh wait, someone can probably tell the future.
What is going on here?
This is insane.
But I heard someone describe it as like it's just another one of the human senses and some people have more dormant than others, just like some people have perfect pitch.
You know, it's like very rare, but humans can't have that.
And then it's like people do, it happens.
You know, it's just one of these things that, like you know, a very select few people have that ability to see certain things or frequencies that others can't.
And so with that logic, I was like, Oh, that kind of makes sense.
Like the idea of something like a perfect pitch, or like you know the people that are like the fastest people in the world, or something I was like there are people with superhuman type of talents and it isn't too farfetched to believe that some talents can help you see things, or hear things, that are not necessarily uh, accessible to everybody.
Yeah definitely, each medium too, has like a different sort of skill that we've we've found it seems like so, like we've met some that are only able to see figures or people, whatever.
But then there's some that, like, can feel it.
There's some that use, like, the claromancy and stuff that use, like, the bone throwing.
Right.
So cool.
Yeah, just a lot of different techniques to contact or see the afterlife.
It's interesting.
It is interesting.
I feel like the ones who do like and this is just me when they do like a big audience of people.
Those are the ones that I'm like.
I don't buy it.
I do not buy it.
I just can't buy it.
My girl, Teresa Caputo.
I oh, do you believe her?
Long island right, she's long island medium.
I don't know.
I i do believe her.
I don't want to.
You know i believe her period.
Yeah, i believe her okay.
Yeah, i just love her.
I'm skeptical.
Yeah, i've seen her show when i was like little.
I loved it.
So i loved the show.
I hope she's real.
I know i do too.
Yeah, it's just the audience, the big audience ones.
I'm like it's hard when you see like shows of, like mentalists or like illusionists that like you think whoa, how in the world did they know that?
But then it's just like, you know, a trick that they've done a hundred thousand times.
Yeah.
Like sleight of hand or.
That's the thing.
Some quick thing that we don't see.
And when you really break it down, sometimes when they do like the big audience things, when you break down how they get to the answer, it's like so clear how they get there that you're like oh.
Like in the moment you don't think that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like people give information and they don't realize they are.
That's very true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're really good at doing that.
Cold reading and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I love seeing the people who like won't give information though.
And the psychic is actually for real.
And they're like, I get it on basically nothing.
Yeah.
You are one of those people.
I always go, whenever we go to a psychic or any tarot card, I'd give nothing.
She's literally like, I'll just sit there.
I want to see.
I take my rings off.
I won't like even show that I'm there.
Like nothing.
They're like, does that make sense?
And she's like, I'm like, maybe.
I don't know.
I'm like, you tell me.
I don't know.
Keep going.
You know better than I do.
Meanwhile, I'm like, yes.
And when my husband said that and my dog from four years ago.
We lived here.
I start crying.
I'm like, that's so, yeah.
She's like, I'm on to something.
Oh, great.
So we're going to, we'll move on to, we'll do a little game.
Hell yeah.
Games with guests.
Love games.
We'd love to do a would you rather.
Okay.
Yeah.
We're going to start off with that.
Are you guys participating or is it just us?
We always participate.
Okay, cool, cool.
Yeah.
All right.
So would you rather let a Ouija board spirit possess your right hand for 24 hours, or you both wait a second.
That's so specific it is.
Or would you rather let zach bagans narrate a few months of your life in a dramatic voiceover?
Oh, that's a dream come true.
He's the king of paranormal.
If he was like now you're going to go downstairs and eat some cereal, I would actually be so happy.
He can make literally, like, a puppy terrified, you know?
No, it's actually so true.
His narration is, you know, His narrations are, like, top tier.
They are.
Because they're crazy.
They're intense.
It would be, like, a slow narration, I feel like.
He's just like, now, we're going to the car, and you're like, Come on.
You're like, come on.
I have to go.
Drive you a little crazy.
I feel like, I mean, having someone narrate my life.
Would drive me insane.
I was going to say, I kind of, I would think it's hilarious for like maybe a couple of hours.
Like I'd be like, this is so fun.
I wouldn't even make it a couple hours.
I think hour three, I'd be like, you can fucking leave now.
I need alone time.
Yeah, that's true.
But I also don't want my hand possessed for 24 hours.
You know what though?
What if you like kill somebody?
That's the thing.
It's like idle hands.
I didn't think of that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It could be.
Okay.
Your right hand can do a lot.
It's true.
Your right hand can do a lot, but also Zach Bagans narrating your life for a few months or 24 hours.
Oh, months?
Yeah.
Months could be kind of crazy.
Oh, shit.
That's true.
So you could fix this if you've ever seen the movie Idle Hands.
I have not.
You can at least try to fix it.
So if it's 24 hours, you could lock yourself in a room.
Ooh, true.
You could...
Maybe, like, handcuff your hands somewhere.
Ooh, you could handcuff yourself.
Yeah.
And I would just watch some motherfucking TV.
Yeah, just sit there.
Oh, that's a good idea.
And your hand's just like... Yeah, your hand's just going crazy over here.
Let's go.
You're just, like, letting it do its thing.
I'm doing that.
Yeah, that's smart.
Okay.
I'm changing.
You're changing?
Yeah.
You're changing?
Just because the length of time.
You're sticking.
I need my narration, dude.
I would use that time to record a documentary about my life.
All right.
Pre-narrated, you know?
That's pretty smart.
There you go.
Yeah, you've already got the narration down.
All right.
So next, would you rather accidentally summon a Victorian ghost who refuses to leave until you let them co-host a vlog?
Or would you summon a demon who only communicates through Sam and Colby fan edits on TikTok?
Yeah.
I love how specific these are.
Who came up with them?
That is hilarious.
We tried to tailor them to our guests, as you can see.
I feel like we are being communicated by Sam and Colby edits on TikTok all the time.
I mean, that's so funny.
I want to choose that one because it's so funny, but practicality I'd probably be the first one honestly.
Because think about it.
If you had a ghost like co-vlog, like that's so viral, you're breaking the internet.
Yeah, you also essentially already do that.
Like they're kind of like background stars in your videos, you know exactly.
But like imagine we're like hey guys, sam and colby like what's up, like we're here with and he's like paul.
I actually love that.
I get that.
What are you doing, sam?
Yeah, I think to your point.
The viral vlog is there.
Plus, I feel like a ghost could get other ghosts to get active.
That's true.
He summons the other ones.
Yeah, exactly.
The ghost would probably be the best ghost hunter out there.
Probably.
Hunt what you know.
Because he'd be like, you're doing this all wrong.
Let me tell you how to do this.
He's like, this is what we respond to.
It's like working with the perfect translator.
Or is he like us, where?
He's like what was that imagine?
He's scared.
Did you see that?
He's freaked out by you.
He's like why are you here?
Like what's going on?
He's like oh my god, it's freezing in here suddenly.
I thought that was you.
That's awesome.
All right, i think i would want to.
I would want to have a third voice on the pod.
That's a ghost.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah for sure.
I mean we do nicholas.
Oh, we do.
Yeah, when we do our listener tale episodes, we do ghost tube, and there's a ghost nicholas, who like fucks with us while we record them.
He just like has things to say about the listener.
He doesn't like me.
Uh, we're not.
We're not best friends forever.
No, he loves you.
Yeah, running theme in our life wow yeah yeah, i don't know what i did.
I don't know what I did either.
I don't know why.
Beef with Nicholas.
Beef with Nicholas big time.
We've been friends like the last couple.
We've been amicable the last couple times.
Dead men love me apparently.
Dead men have a thing for you.
I don't know what that's about.
All right.
Would you rather use a possessed doll as your permanent cameraman or have to share your bed with a ghost who won't stop whispering?
Smash that subscribe button until dawn.
Until dawn?
Until dawn.
All night.
Oh, man.
I would film that.
That's so funny.
These are so unique.
These are amazing.
I've never heard any of these before.
Probably smash the subscribe.
Like, that's only like a, what, 12-hour thing?
Yeah, and then you don't have to say it for a whole day.
Yeah, there we go.
The ghost has it for you.
But you're sharing your bed with them.
Oh, true.
And you're trying to see what you've experienced before.
I have experienced that.
Yeah, full circle moment.
I just hear him and you're like, smash that subscribe button.
Yeah, but imagine giving a camera to a haunted doll.
Are they even going to be able to hold it up?
That's a shaky cam moment.
Exactly.
Are they going to throw it at your head?
Yeah.
And then you're getting the double chin angle all the time.
Yeah, that's true.
Because they're kind of short.
They're never going to give you good lighting.
True.
Not the good angle.
Not true.
Would be sick.
If the possessed doll was like a cast member and like, just like, hanging out with us all the time.
But the camera man not cool.
Is Annabelle, like, running next to you or whatever?
I mean, imagine, like, it was me, you, and little Annabelle.
And just Annabelle with the camera.
That is a really bad angle from down there.
They're B-cam, you know?
Oh, yeah, she's, like, the B-cam.
We're like, Annabelle, just go film the porn.
Can you get the outside shots?
She gets pissed.
Go take our thumbnails.
She's like, oh, dang it.
See, we wouldn't have to really worry about that.
Yeah, we really don't.
We could have a possessed doll be our camera person for one episode a month.
Yeah, in guest episodes, we'll be like, this is just our possessed doll.
You don't buy them, okay?
Yeah, we'll have to worry about that.
Yeah.
But I already have, my kids are already jumping in my bed.
I don't need a ghost in there as well.
Yeah, I'm not.
I get too hot.
I'm cranky in the nighttime, so I don't want to deal with that.
Yeah.
You'd punch the ghost.
I would absolutely punch the ghost.
My husband says whenever he wakes me up that I, like, go into a fight position.
He's like, how do you wake up like that?
When he woke me up yesterday, he was like, are you okay?
Are you dead?
It's like 4 p.m.
Yeah, 4 p.m.
I'm ready to fight.
I just wake up angry.
I just wake up like, what the fuck?
Every time.
I do that thing too, like I'll be ready for motherhood when it comes because I go, and I wake up.
Oh, you have to do that.
Oh my God.
That's like the mom thing that you have to do.
My kids tell me all the time they're like you sound like you're dying when you wake up, because they'll be like mama and I'm like what?
They're like, it's fine.
Drew's always like, why do you do that?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm not like trying to.
You're getting ready.
I was asleep, question mark.
Getting ready to terrify your children in the middle of the night.
Yeah, I'm ready.
Let's go.
Actually, yeah, I would definitely not have the ghost in my bed.
No, no.
It would be much more useful for you.
Yeah.
So mine is, would you rather accidentally marry a ghost through a botched seance wedding ritual?
Like, oops, I married one of these.
Whoa.
Or have a poltergeist that insists on being your chaotic third roommate and constantly messes with your editing files.
Oh, my God.
So you're either getting married in a botched seance.
To a ghost.
To a ghost.
Does that mean 50% of our assets are going to this ghost?
Well, you maybe could sign a prenup, I guess.
Unless you do the... You could do a postnup.
A postnup.
Yeah, you could do a postnup.
That is a thing.
A postnup.
It's a prenup, but after the fact.
What was your thinking, Mason?
I have no idea.
Or because, because this poltergeist is fucking up your editing.
Oh yeah, like you get to the point where you're happy with the video and he's like, how about I add a laugh track?
That is the literal worst fear of my life.
Yeah, and honestly, like who's to say, even if you accidentally marry this ghost, you don't fall in love?
Oh, that's beautiful, that's true.
I like the optimism there.
You know, people are marrying everything now.
Yeah, you don't know, people get married to like cars and shit.
Oh, you can marry yourself.
Why not marry ghosts?
Yeah dope, i'm trying to think, though it would be a really hard conversation with our girlfriends.
You know, like just being like hey, like you know, i feel like it was an accident.
Like hey, we got to talk about an open relationship here married, what do you think about?
Um sister, wife life?
Yeah, exactly with the ghost.
Can we introduce a third?
Because i did, by accident, my bad and now the ghost has to be.
It was a wild weekend, guys.
It's kind of like a corpse pride thing actually it is.
That's actually exactly what it is very much that.
Can we ask like, how long are you roommates with this poltergeist trickster, ghost through editing season?
Yeah, once you're done editing, the rest of your editing career?
Yeah, you just get screwed up files that would ruin.
Like he pops in.
He's your roommate, so i guess you could like buy him out of the lease, but i don't know it'll be that easy for you.
He like deletes the most important investigation, every video.
He's like that's the thing, that's what you're, that's what you're facing.
He adds like old timey car horn sounds in the middle of your video.
Just like, almost every now and again.
I feel like apparently I already have, you know, extra ghostly friends around all the time.
So I wouldn't mind, you know, having one in the relationship too.
All right honestly oh man, i mean i i would hope that when i get married it would be for life and so, like i'm trying to, i'm not divorcing, even if it's a ghost.
So i think i might choose the, the roommate.
Honestly yeah yeah, because i don't know if i'm gonna be like editing until i'm like That's true.
That's honorable.
You just deal with it for a while.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think marriage is more important at the end of the day.
Yeah.
It's true.
That's beautiful.
I respect that.
I would.
Sam's like, okay.
Optimism of, you know, inclusion.
Maybe falling in love with this.
They were both beautiful answers in different ways.
I like them both.
Real nice.
I don't want another husband.
No, God no.
I like mine.
I like mine as well.
But I don't want any more.
I don't.
I don't edit.
So never have, never will.
I know it would be Mikey who would really be.
I know well, back in the day you used to edit.
I know I used to edit.
I've never touched that shit and I know how annoying that would be to have somebody touching it.
I know Now it would just be Mikey's problem.
Dang.
So I guess I'm going with Poltergeist.
Poltergeist.
Poltergeist will live with Mikey and Dave.
But here's the thought.
Oh, okay.
So they're Mikey's roommate?
Yeah, now they're Mikey's.
Oh, God.
Wow.
That's pretty easy.
Sorry, Mikey.
Just kidding.
Correct.
Off camera, Mikey's like, fuck you guys.
Damn.
Yeah, because I'm not getting married during a ritual.
No.
It's a no for me.
Yeah.
No.
Accidentally or intentionally.
No.
All right.
So we're going with poltergeist.
All right.
Sorry, Mikey.
Love you so much.
So the next one is, this one's going to be hard, I think.
Would you rather have Bloody Mary show up every time you say subscribe?
Or have a demon gently bite you every time you plug merch.
Just a little love bite every time.
Do we say subscribe or do we plug merch more?
I think we plug merch more than we ask for subscribe.
That's true.
You don't need as many subscribes now.
You're like, well, you got 15 million.
You know what?
That's actually like, that's a good point.
Whoa.
Yeah.
So I would probably say, oh man, actually.
But what do you want to happen?
Well, it's like, like I'm trying to think about like how hard.
So Bloody Mary is just going to show up.
I don't know what she's going to do.
That's the other thing.
She didn't let me know what she was going to do.
She's just showing up.
So basically, like, are you into stalking women or bites?
Or demons.
It's just a gentle bite.
I feel like a gentle bite is like...
At least you know what's coming.
It's not going to be hard.
Finishing myself.
It's not breaking skin.
It's just like a little nibble.
I would probably do that because what is Bloody Mary going to do?
I get the gentle bite then.
Gentle bite.
I like the gentle bite too.
Gentle bite.
It would be really cool if we started every video and we were just like...
Like watch this and you like filmed a gentle bite, Explore merch, and then you're like two birds one stone, you know, then every viral clip is us plugging our merch.
How do you get ghost to bite?
How to get a ghost to bite.
Oh, shopexplorer.com.
That's fucking awesome.
Gentle bites only.
That's so funny.
That's the important part.
I would take gentle bite too because I have a puppy, so I do have a demon biting me.
That's true.
Not that gently.
Wow.
Yeah.
You're all used to it.
I'm so used i have like scars and shit at this point.
Dang, you put it up with it.
Yeah, i would say gentle bite.
I think i'm going with gentle bite because again, it's a gentle bite.
Yeah, i can't.
I want to, i can't.
Part of me wants to see what bloody mary is up to.
That's a gamble, i know.
I don't know if i'm that reckless.
I'm also with you a lot so, can you not?
I was gonna say, like how long she's showing up though, you know, that's like one bite is like boom, but the subscribe could be like visiting you in your sleep.
That's true.
Yeah, what if you like talk in your sleep and you're like subscribe, she's like there.
Yeah, all my sleep talking is just like.
Yeah, i think you know what i'm going with demon.
Yeah, because i don't think me and bloody mary would get along very well.
Nah, she seems too strong gals.
Yeah, she seems too too angry.
Yeah, you know, i was so scared of bloody mary when i was little.
I still remember the first time i did it.
Yeah, i like screamed and ran downstairs.
I got in trouble too, which was lame yeah, stupid.
Yeah, I've never done it.
You've never done it?
I've never, like, I've been around people who have done it, but I refuse to do it.
Oh, it was like such a sleepover thing.
We absolutely should.
Bloody Mary in my bathroom.
Let's do it in a haunted location.
Oh, yeah.
Next haunted location.
Yeah, yeah.
Pick an apple and then Bloody Mary.
Let's go.
Halloween party somewhere in there.
Itinerary down.
Maybe at the Halloween party.
Ooh.
We invite Bloody Mary to our Halloween party.
Honestly.
That's a draw.
It is.
Well, would you rather have a cursed Ouija board that will sometimes randomly spell out your most embarrassing memories for everybody?
Embarrassing and upsetting memories.
Oh, and upsetting.
I added to it.
I added to it.
Because this one's pretty wild.
Or would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost, but that Victorian child ghost is only going to refer to you as Daddy Colby and Papa Sam? definitely i'd just be like i don't i think it'd be just funny honestly like i'm not your dad i'm not your dad but uh i guess i'll be your dad why not did a ghost child That would be so funny.
Yeah, I feel like that would be awesome to have an extra character in the video.
Just your ghost kid.
Papa Sam.
I think that's a valid choice.
Do you want another kid?
Why not?
Another ghost kid?
Yeah.
Call you Mama Alina.
Yeah, Mama Alina.
All right.
Why not?
We'll go with it.
Because I don't want my shit spelled out in a Ouija board.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want that.
Because you have to do a Ouija board with other people.
That's the thing.
And so other people are just seeing your stuff.
It's like the ghost was lying, I swear.
Yeah, that wasn't me.
They're messing with us.
Yeah, I'd go ghost kid.
Victorian ghost.
For sure.
Yeah.
No one needs to know those secrets.
No.
Those are locked up.
All right.
Would you rather spend a night alone in a pitch black asylum with a Ouija board, or spend a night in your own bathroom?
But every mirror shows a cursed, clown version of yourself.
Oh, God.
I loved your reactions.
And you're alone in the asylum with no one else, just you by yourself with a Ouija board.
With a Ouija board.
The first one sounds like an intense version of our normal YouTube videos.
Yeah, it does.
And the second one sounds like I'm going to have nightmares forever.
Like a fever, yeah.
For the rest of your life.
Trauma, traumatic experience.
It's just one night, though.
Yeah, I would agree.
The first one, you said one night?
Both are one night.
Oh, both are one night.
You just have to stay in the bathroom all night.
And just look at the mirrors.
Yeah, dude.
I just feel like that's a great idea for a vid.
Yeah, just kind of like extreme Sam and Colby.
There we go.
Let's do solo challenges with a Ouija board.
Like we're turning all this into like a business idea.
Yeah, you're like, wait a second.
Do you have a pad of paper?
Let's do that.
You're like TM.
I'll probably do the first two.
The Ouija board.
All right.
Yeah.
I think I would do my own bathroom and probably just, like, not look at the mirrors.
Oh, just close your eyes?
Yeah.
Blindfold yourself and just fall asleep on the floor?
Yeah.
I only have two mirrors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
I mean, I didn't know you could just, like, not look.
Yeah, I feel like maybe you have to look.
You have to look?
Yeah, I feel like that's too easy to avoid it.
A cursed clown version of myself.
Maybe you have mirrors all around your room.
Oh fuck, i just added to it.
Damn okay, i was like that.
We gotta make that harder cruel.
I don't want to be in a pitch black asylum alone.
At least, if i'm in my bathroom, i'm in my own house.
Yeah, don't knock it till you try it.
Yeah, that's true.
Alone though, Scary.
But the views.
But the views.
Let's do it for the likes.
I think I'm going to the bathroom.
It's one night.
I can do it.
I want to say the asylum, because I want to do that really bad.
But I know myself and I would absolutely panic.
The other night you were like, if we have to do anything alone, will you do it with me?
I was like, I can't go in a room by myself.
I will lose my mind.
Oh, that's awesome.
And then when we were in there, I was like okay, i could probably go in a room by myself.
But then i was in the back, going up the stairs and i almost crawled over all of you, like i was about to like parkour above you.
You were like grabbing me, you were like pulling me back.
It was like pitch black behind me.
Oh, walking at the end of a line.
Yeah, in a pitch black area, it's the worst.
And it was towards the end of the night and i think i just felt way more on edge.
At the end of the night i went to grab something by myself and i was like why the fuck did i volunteer to do this?
Oh yeah yeah, i was like it's freaky.
I remember it was like right at the bottom of the stairs, so i was like i can do it.
But then i was like, oh no, it's scary, it's a different feeling, for sure.
Yeah, i literally almost scaled all of you and jumped.
That's so funny because, like you know, like they're everything you like feel behind you, but then in front they're going so slow.
It's always like go faster.
Oh yeah, i felt like you guys were at a dead halt and i was like i'm dying back here.
Somebody's gonna kill me back here.
Yeah, you're not moving.
I know, that was scary, um.
So i would say bathroom, probably.
Yeah, i would do bathroom yeah, and just deal with the consequences of that.
Yeah yeah, Yeah.
Well, we've also, again, we've had experience being in one of these places.
So I think it would just be cool.
Yeah.
Or like been there, done that.
That's the thing I want to.
I would do it if I was with one other person.
The asylum.
But you're not.
Just one other person would make me feel better.
Yeah.
I would do it with one other person too.
Yeah.
Me alone, no.
No.
All right.
Would you rather be locked in Waverly Hills with a spirit that mimics your best friend's voice?
So probably each other's voices, or be chased through the woods by a skinwalker holding a kfc bucket and calling you dinner?
Oh my god, that's so sadistic, would you rather?
Oh my god okay well, how did you come up with that?
You know what's insane this?
This sounds crazy.
So many kfc buckets literally all the time at paranormal locations.
Well, not kfc like specifically, but the, the doppelganger sort of voice mimicking has happened to us like two or three times with each other's voices.
Yes yes, we were in far elementary and um, it was late at night and we were done filming.
I was like on the phone with my girlfriend and i could have sworn that sam was like yo like three times like calling me because it was like super late and like voices echo in that like gym.
So i thought he was just like yo get to bed and so, like i came in, i was just like why were you calling me?
And he was like that was not me.
Oh, that's wild.
I hate that a lot.
I hate that.
The idea of mimic yeah, so as much as i want like a skinwalker with kfc to chase after me, that's hilarious.
I'd probably do the mimic because i've experienced yeah, you've done it before uh-huh.
The mimic is really scary.
We've had that happen at the conjuring house before, some other places as well, where we just hear each other's voices or like evps will sound like our voices, sometimes like we'll have uh on the spirit box.
You know, like the things that work, the ss method type of stuff like the, the voices that come through the radio sound like us and each other and it's like no way.
It's super strange.
That's scary.
There was like a really scary um Time in the Conjuring house that we were sitting on a couch just doing research and I forgot exactly what I said.
But I said a word and it repeated it back to me.
It sounded like it was coming from outside or whatever, and it happened on camera, by the way.
So we have it all filmed.
We posted everything where I'm like yo and it's like yo or something like back to me multiple times and then I say it in the same amount of volume, I try it louder, I try it softer or whatever, and then the echo just stops.
But it just, like, three or four times before it stopped.
Yeah.
Like, it was, like, coming back multiple times.
And later that same week, because we stayed a week at the Conjuring house, I heard the same type of voice in the basement when I was alone.
Colby was not even in the house.
And I just heard, like, his voice, like, ring.
And I was like, oh, what?
Like, he's back?
No, he's out in the woods.
It was insane.
But mimics are horrifying.
Well, because they also feel like very diabolical, because they're like trying to draw you in and it's like why?
Most people believe that like mimics are like evil spirits.
Yeah, for sure.
I've had an experience in this house where I was in the bathroom and I was walking out and I saw Elena like in the doorway and I went to say something to her and then she was gone.
And I came in here and she was sitting right there.
She's always sitting right there.
And I literally, I was like, were you just in the bathroom?
And she was like no, like you were just sitting right here.
I was like, and you saw, i was like sheet white.
I was like no, i just saw you, oh my god.
And mikey's experienced it too.
Like he's seen her in, like a like out of the corner of his eye, or like in a doorway somewhere, and then she'll like appear and he's like, were you just there?
And she's like no, that's so scary, really terrifying.
Yeah, and i don't know why you're just showing up everywhere.
I've been trying to figure it out.
You're in three places at once.
Yeah, i'm doing the most, let's go.
I'm like damn yeah, i don't know why it's scary, it's freaking me out.
I mean, maybe in this case it's like residual energy or something, because this is your house, yeah.
So i mean, it felt fucking weird.
So i don't know.
It's just sinister that they'll disguise themselves as people you love or know, best friends, whatever.
It's crazy.
It's really scary.
I know because I've seen these videos.
I don't know which ones are true or not, but where they'll have people outside their door speaking like someone they know and being like open the door.
I'm outside.
There's a whole like, you know, series about that.
I don't know what it's called.
I would never recover.
Yeah.
The one that we saw in particular and it was like the girl thought it was her mom.
Oh, yeah.
And then she, the like guttural noise that she makes, she like screams or something.
Yeah, because I think she says like, you're not my mom.
And it starts to make this horrible sound on the other side of the door that ruined me.
My goosebumps hide goosebumps.
I want to pull it up later.
That's so scary.
It was horrible.
It was wild.
Wait, there's a video of this?
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
I fucking hate it so much.
Isn't that horrible?
Then she said she called her neighbor for help.
Every time they get really close...
Oh, I hate that so much.
I hate it.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's scary.
Even if it's not real great acting.
Yeah.
Damn.
I would not open that door.
I would jump out the window probably.
And burn the house down.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
So scary.
I hate that.
That's disgusting.
Yeah, it is disgusting.
Yeah, it really is.
That's a burn your house type thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's over.
All right.
So next, would you rather?
Yeah.
After that.
Anyway, would you rather wake up every morning with a new cryptic symbol tattooed on your arm by ghosts, or be cursed so that every mirror shows your future funeral?
Oh, God.
That's so dark.
Yeah, every day you get a new tattoo.
Yeah we, who knows how big it is every morning it's a cryptic symbol.
Whoa yeah, free tats.
That's true.
Hopefully they're good artists.
Hopefully yeah, that's the thing that would freak me out.
Yeah, what if they're shitty?
Yeah, i was gonna say what's the worst.
I have dreams all the time where i got like a horrible tattoo and i'm like what do i do?
Imagine trying to explain that to your friends, though.
Like you wake up and you're just like, I swear demons.
They're like, okay.
But seeing like your funeral.
That's like so mentally messed up.
You guys are sadistic.
You guys are fucked up for this.
I kind of want to see my funeral to be like, who came?
Who was there?
You know what?
Then if you saw it every day, you could see who your real friends are.
Yeah.
That's actually kind of like a great tool.
If things change, you all of a sudden see somebody not there.
You can edit your funeral plans.
Like, no, everybody looks like shit.
How about you wear this?
True.
Yeah.
This co-op's a little lame.
Let's get a DJ up in here.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Get a better embalmer.
I look like shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just feel like it would be like a constant, like reminder that you're going to die, like eventually.
And so it's, like, just... Might be kind of good, though.
It's, like, a good perspective.
Yeah.
So, like, you're, like, at a... Better live today well.
Bar or whatever.
And you're just, like, having a great time.
You look in the mirror and you're, like... And you're, like, oh, shit.
I'm going to die.
I'm going to die.
Let's kick shots, everybody.
Yeah.
But, like, with the tattoo thing, you can become, like, an experiment in a way.
I'm big in business.
Yeah.
And, like, you can just be, like, you can be, like, hey, government, like, check this out.
Like, keep me in, like, a lab or whatever and watch what happens to me every single day.
Yeah.
You want to get the government involved?
Yeah.
That's brave.
That's a good point, too.
That is brave.
That is a good point.
You want the government to lock you in a lab?
Yeah, I don't know about that.
They'll never leave.
You run your own experiments.
It's a hard one.
Put it on YouTube for views.
Yeah.
Views.
Not the government.
Yeah, not the government.
Never the government.
If I could profit off of it on YouTube.
Yeah.
Always be closing.
Remo.
Hell yeah.
Always be closing.
Always be closing.
That's funny.
All right, so you're going...
I think I'm going to do tattoo.
I'm doing funeral.
I think about my death all the time anyway.
Yeah, I'm doing funeral.
I mean, I love tattoos.
But you only see the same artist.
I know.
And it's not a demon.
That's true.
He's not a demon.
Could be.
His name is Matt.
He's not a demon.
All right.
Sorry, Matt.
Hey, Matt.
Yeah.
I would say the funeral.
Funeral.
Because I also always think about my own death.
And I assume.
Same.
I'm one of those people that's like, you might die tomorrow.
So I do that thing.
And I tell everybody else that.
Eat that cupcake.
Eat that cupcake.
I guess you could avoid mirrors.
That's true.
Yeah.
You could.
You could.
Yeah.
You'd run into them every day.
I don't look in mirrors a lot anyway.
Yeah.
Not like every day.
That's what I was just going to say.
It would be like a morning thing where I like start my day being like, oh, mortality.
And then it would just be like, I can avoid.
It would be kind of weird like doing your makeup.
Oh, driving.
You have to look in mirrors a lot driving.
That would actually be so dangerous.
You see your funeral every time you're in the car.
You're like, oh God, is this it?
Is this it?
Or does cameras count too?
Like if you're looking at your phone?
Any reflection probably?
I feel like we can't do any reflection.
That's going to curse our lives.
I think your bathroom mirror.
Bathroom mirror.
Only bathroom.
Not the rear view mirror of the car.
If it's only bathroom.
That's too dangerous.
Okay.
Then I'm switching my answer as well.
I think I would just like come up with a routine, like get ready every day.
Kind of like expect like I'm going to see my funeral.
Yeah.
And then just you would get used to it.
Yeah.
You're going to be a part of your mortality for a minute.
That's a good point.
I switched.
Every day.
Yeah.
You convinced me.
There we go.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The tattoos I feel like could get Wiley.
I'm a control freak and I need to pick my own tattoos.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And I feel bad going to Matt later and being like, I'm so sorry.
Can you fix this one?
So we have two more.
First one is, would you rather hear a demon whisper your name every night at 3.33 a.m.?
Exactly.
Or have a Victorian ghost lady follow you into every bathroom you enter?
Intrusive.
That is intrusive.
Both are pretty intrusive, honestly.
Probably the Victorian lady.
Really?
I did not expect that.
Really?
I mean, I just feel like, would, I'm thinking like long-term here with like the demon.
Well, first of all can you wear headphones when you're sleeping and then kind of like cancel it out.
Nah.
Okay.
Does your wife or husband like hear?
No, they're fine.
It's just you.
So you're the one that has to live with it?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's your problem.
It's your problem.
Do you want interrupted sleep or interrupted bathroom times?
So is she like watching you while you're doing your business?
I feel like she is.
I feel like she's not modest.
She's like, you should light a candle.
She's like, come on.
What'd you eat?
You know?
Oh, man.
I mean, that's more of, like, her problem.
You know?
Like, that's my problem.
Well, the demon's my problem.
I think you get really comfortable with her and be like, yeah, I'll wash this one, bro.
Can you hand me some paper towels?
I gotta wash my hands.
If she wasn't able to, like, communicate with anybody else, it's kind of like...
How do you know that's not happening to you like right now?
Yeah.
Like that's your little thing.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
With her.
Yeah.
I would share that moment with a Victorian ghost and that would be her problem.
And I would just feel like sucks for you.
Yeah.
But then if I'm sleeping and there's something in my ear every single night, that sucks for me.
I'm waking up every night.
Interrupted sleep.
I mean, that's pretty cool.
I kind of agree.
Instead of scrolling TikTok, you're like talking to a ghost.
Yeah.
You got in her up.
Yeah.
It's kind of cool.
Yeah.
You're just talking to yourself.
Someone walks in and you're like talking to yourself.
Throwing ideas to her.
You know what?
That does kind of sound nice.
I'd do the ghost lady.
Yeah.
I don't want to be.
Is ours a ghost lady or is it a ghost man?
No, ours is a ghost lady.
The question was ghost lady.
Ghost lady, sure.
Yeah, totally.
Ghost man, no.
No.
Throw that out of there.
Yeah, ghost lady, I'd just be like, all right, girl.
Hey, girl.
Yeah, let's talk about stuff.
I like that.
I love it.
Yeah, that's an easy one, because I don't want my name's whispered in the middle of the night all the time.
By living people, yeah.
Children all the time.
No, thank you.
You don't need to add to it.
I don't need someone else.
Yeah.
So the next one is would you rather get trapped in a haunted mirror dimension with a ghost version of yourself?
Whoa.
A haunted mirror dimension.
That's good.
Or have a poltergeist that only like forever, that only communicates with you by throwing tacos at your head.
That's awesome.
Free tacos.
Oh my God.
I would love that.
Right?
Just wear a helmet everywhere you go.
Try to grab one.
Just try to catch.
Oh sorry, thank you.
Imagine how viral that is.
If, like four or five times throughout every YouTube video, we just get a taco smack.
It's like where did that come from?
Is it like hard shell or soft?
You can choose whatever your preference is.
I think you would be able to talk to them about it.
It's a beefy five layer burrito, bro.
Oh, I'm down for that.
Yeah, throw some nachos at you, yeah.
But if it's like hard shell, I feel like that could like poke out your eyes.
Yeah, that could get dangerous.
It could get ugly and messy.
I feel It's all looking messy.
Yeah, I would do like a soft shell beefy five layer burrito from Taco Bell.
You're getting a little choosy here.
I'm like, are we ordering that after?
Yeah, we are.
We're getting Taco Bell today.
And it will be thrown right at our face.
I would definitely choose the tacos.
Oh yeah, i love tacos big time.
I'm a yeah, big taco people, so i'd be like talk to me all the time, let's go.
Yeah, i know, unless he's like humming it at your head, i know what.
If it ruined tacos for you, could it would tacos for you that could that, could that.
What's the other option?
Trapped in getting stuck in a mirror dimension with your ghost self?
For how long?
For a week?
A week?
It's not that bad.
I think we're good to continue.
I feel like Mr. Beast would somehow in the future come up with that challenge.
You're getting trapped here for a week.
You're inside the mirror.
With a ghost version of yourself.
I might do a ghost version of myself.
I feel like you could learn a lot in that instance.
That's true.
And then I could continue just having tacos when I want to.
At your leisure.
At my leisure.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
A ghost version of yourself could be cool.
Yeah.
It's to know yourself.
What if they're an asshole?
Well, they're you, so.
And then you're stuck there for a week with an asshole.
Are you an asshole?
That looks like you.
Sometimes.
Not to yourself.
I'm willing.
You're changing it.
The mirror version of yourself is the asshole version of yourself.
It's the asshole version.
It's like the bad part of you.
Yeah.
Oh, you're living with the bad part of you.
Oh, that's scary.
You have to come to terms with the negative side.
That's a lot.
Maybe that's like a therapy session, though.
That is kind of like a therapy session.
I'm sticking with that.
I think that'd be a cool experience.
You might come out a better person.
Yeah, we don't know how hard the tacos are hurting your face.
We don't know.
And we love tacos, so we don't want them ruined.
Yeah.
And you don't know when they materialize in the air.
Like if they just materialize as they're coming at you, so you have no time to stop.
I don't eat in my bed, so I don't want tacos on my bed.
Oh, true.
That's very true.
You drive and you just get smacked in the head with a taco.
That's dangerous.
Trying to take your everything shower.
Oh, you have like the music on and everything's nice and calm, and then, like a giant burrito hits you in the face right after you finish your shower and then boom, and you have to go back in the shower and you're like god just washed your hair and you get like queso in your hair.
Oh no, that'd be awful.
No.
No.
Mere dimension.
I'm facing the shitty version of myself.
So are we all doing shitty version of ourselves?
I think so.
Yeah.
I was going to go for the taco.
You're still doing tacos?
Even after all that, you're like, I'll take another shower.
It's like you may kiss the bride like taco in the face.
Taco in the face.
You just start getting to the point where you're like catching them in your mouth.
I know.
Got to get them gains.
I like it.
So we got three mirror dimensions, one taco.
One taco demon.
All right.
All right.
We'll just take your tacos that you don't want.
True.
You know?
Yeah, give us your leftovers.
I'll share.
Yeah.
See?
I could feed the homeless.
There you go.
Here you go.
Just toss tacos wherever you go.
That's great.
All right.
I think we learned a lot.
I think we did.
We definitely did.
We know ourselves much better than each other.
Yeah.
So let's do the two truths and a lie ghost edition.
Oh, yeah.
To end it out.
You guys are going to tell us two truths and a lie.
Okay, so I'm just gonna be looking straight here so you can't look at my eyes.
I know, I'm already poker face.
Yeah, seriously.
One time I went to the Villisca Axe Murder House and during like one of the last investigations, there was a spirit that tugged on the back of my crew neck that I was wearing.
And it scared me and made my eyes tear up instantly.
And yeah, it was one of the only times that's ever happened where I've felt like a physical sort of touch like that.
Another time I was in a spot called Bowers Mansion.
It was in Texas.
And I was speaking out to a ghost named Bernard who was known specifically to slam doors.
And after I asked him to directly slam a door, it happened in front of my face.
And I instantly also broke out into tears, but this time down like my face.
And it was one of the most traumatic experiences jump scares i've had in my entire life.
Damn um, these are all convincing so far, yeah.
And then, when i stayed in a week in the the conjuring house, i was forced to stay in the basement on the last night and uh, was uncontrollably sobbing the entire time um, until sam was able to get me out at 5 am.
All of those seem so terrifying and real.
Mm-hmm.
And they all involve crying.
Yep.
Oh, that's true, they do.
He cries a lot.
Hey!
What's your astrological side?
I'm a Capricorn.
Oh, Capricorn.
That's weird that you cry a lot.
I don't cry that much, guys.
I cry a lot.
Extreme options, okay?
All right?
It takes, like, ghostly intervention for you to cry.
Exactly.
That makes sense.
That's what it would take for me to cry, for sure.
I think the last one is a lie, because I think that was Sam.
Okay.
What do you mean?
Do you know something?
Are you working off of Intel?
No, I'm not actually working off of Intel, but I'm working off like a possible memory of something I saw online.
Oh, okay.
I didn't see any full videos or anything, but I remember when you guys were teasing it.
I don't know the second.
I'm not going to pick that just to be different.
Okay.
I'm going with Bernard.
Okay.
The second one.
You were right.
It was you, right?
I went to the basement one time, but I didn't cry.
I don't cry every single time.
That was me in the basement crying until 5 a.m.
Holy shit.
Wasn't it something where you saw your grandma, right?
Yeah.
In the basement?
Um, it was, that was the reason why I was crying, but that was earlier in the week.
I did go in the basement till 5am and it was really, really terrifying.
And you cried cause it was so scary.
Not in the basement.
I just made that part up.
Oh, but he yeah, he had an experience in the living room, the basement.
In the middle of the night till 5am was where I heard Colby's voice, the mimic that I was kind of describing earlier in the podcast, where he was outside actually like in the forest and I was like holy shit hearing his voice like call out when I was like alone.
It was really really creepy.
Oh, my god, We haven't been to the Conjuring house yet.
I really want to go.
I want to go so badly.
You guys have to go.
I was supposed to go.
I know.
My husband actually got me, like he knows me very well, for our anniversary.
He was like, we're going to go on a tour of the Conjuring house.
And there was like supposed to be a medium there and it was going to be really, and I think he got sick right before and we weren't able to go.
He got like vertigo too.
He gets vertigo and it like knocks him down for like a week.
Oh, damn.
It was weird.
Well, maybe you weren't meant to go.
Yeah.
You guys got to go.
I know.
Because it's not far from us.
Yeah.
The Conjuring House is actually going up for auction.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
On this Halloween.
Really?
Yeah.
The last owner is, yeah, no longer like a part of it.
And so they're like literally selling the house.
Oh, my God.
Oh, shit.
So did we, did Matt Reif not buy it?
It's up for auction.
He wants to.
He wants to buy it.
He's going to be in the bidding, I'm sure.
Oh, okay, I see.
Yeah, Matt Rife just recently bought the Annabelle doll.
Yeah, in the War Museum.
In the War Museum.
So that's like a different thing.
Wait, I thought Annabelle was missing.
The same Annabelle they took on like tour and then yeah, allegedly it went like missing yeah, but then it was halfway through.
But then they got her.
Yeah, but then they found her.
Yeah, it was all kind of like a hoax, though like the fact that she went missing, it was kind of blown out of proportion.
She went on tour and then like, because she wasn't at the house, people thought she was missing.
Well, she wasn't missing, she was on tour.
She was kept in busy.
Because she went to like New Orleans, people were like alert, she was filming for people.
Yeah, she was that possessed doll, you know.
Yeah, she was the B cam down the hallway aiming at a corner, great footage.
Oh, we have to go.
I know.
Sabrina and Corinne have gone there.
Yeah, they had crazy experiences there.
Yeah, they had crazy stuff.
They did like the Estes method there.
Oh, nice.
And got some like really crazy things.
Yeah, you guys have to check out Two Girls, One Ghost.
Yeah.
I think you would like them.
They're like super spooky paranormal stuff.
Sounds good.
They're our besties.
Yeah, we love them.
All right, for sure.
Yeah, we'll do.
Alright, Sam, you're up.
Okay, I got it.
So, I'm also going to look at the coffee.
Alright, there's been a paranormal story of a ghost who caused a disease that actually ended up becoming a virus that a lot of people got.
There has been a confirmed death by a ghost.
And there has been an Illuminati cave that turned to be haunted.
All right, we know the middle one is true, because we covered that case, yeah shit, but we still have two to work with.
What was the first one?
It was the virus, the virus, and then an illuminati cave that was haunted.
I'm going with illuminati.
I am too, because that's like, i feel like that's a conspiracy.
It's the first one.
No ghost virus.
So there really is an Illuminati cave?
It's called Hellfire Caves in England.
It's basically the Illuminati of this thing.
You guys know that?
We covered it.
Damn.
Yeah, I covered it on because it's like the Hellfire Club.
Hellfire Club.
Oh, I do remember that now.
Damn it.
They did a bunch of satanic rituals down in there and then it ended up becoming really haunted.
Yeah.
What are the odds you picked two cases we covered and were still tricked?
And I didn't remember the one that I covered.
I mean, that's a lot of cases in our lives.
I forgot you guys were the experts.
I guess not.
My gut was saying the virus too and I didn't go with it.
I felt believable.
Yeah.
Good job.
Thank you.
Well done.
Let's go.
Well done.
All right.
Well, we're going to move on to recording our next episode.
Yeah.
If there's anything you guys want to plug.
Yes.
Plug away.
Hell Week's coming in October.
Our biggest series of the year launches on October 5th.
And the finale.
This is going to be an exclusive for you guys' podcast.
Okay.
So for our Halloween finale, it just has to do with a really famous movie.
I think it's the most famous horror movie that's happened recently.
Like in the past month, the most famous horror movie we were able to get to go investigate.
Everyone at home will know.
But maybe you guys aren't horror movie fans.
No, we are.
We have a horror movie podcast.
There's been so many.
I know.
I'm trying to think of what it could be.
Will you tell us off camera?
Yeah, of course.
Very cool.
Okay.
I'm probably going to feel stupid afterwards.
No, I will too.
It has recently become the number one horror movie to hit any box office.
Damn.
So that's pretty cool.
Anyway.
Oh, I'm excited.
That's so cool.
Super Halloween.
Yeah.
Thank you for giving that exclusive on Morbid.
I know.
I'm so excited.
Anything else you guys want to plug?
Thanks for having us on.
We love hanging out with you guys.
Thanks for coming.
So thank you guys so much for listening.
We hope you keep listening.
And we hope you keep it weird.
But not so weird that you don't go check out Sam and Colby's YouTube videos.
Let's go.
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