Morbid｜December Bonus Episode: Secrets of the S.K. Pierce Mansion with Special Guests Sam & Colby

Hey weirdos, I'm Ash.

I'm Alayna.

I'm Sam.

I'm Colby.

And this is Morbid.

I feel so weird when I look at the camera.

I'm like, hello.

I know.

I'm like, hey.

Hi.

Thanks for having us on again.

Stoked to be back.

It's been so long since we recorded that episode.

If you're watching, it has been a very long time for you.

So here we are.

We can officially announce that we did a haunted investigation.

Let's go.

Another one.

It was sick.

Another one.

It was so fun.

Yeah.

We did.

And completely unlike anything we've ever done before on our channel too.

Yeah.

I love that.

You guys got a whole different experience.

I know.

That was such an honor when we actually sat down and you were like okay, so this is what we're doing and we've never done it before.

I was like, okay.

Our first investigation with you guys at the USS Salem was a very traditional thing and a lot of crazy stuff happened.

Yes.

But this time it was like yeah very, very different, like we were even kind of throwing off like whoa, you don't even know how to do brand new concepts.

Yeah, so we went to the sk pierce mansion and basically your whole, you know, like vibe for the night was testing psychics.

Yeah, that's correct.

So how do you know these psychics?

Like, tell us a little bit about the psychics, the whole shebang.

There were three of them.

Yeah, there are three of them.

So our whole goal of this year of 2025 was to try to kind of push the bar with ghost hunting.

We've done a lot of the same type of investigations.

It was really fun.

Like there's a lot of different stories, but we're like what if there's just different ways to get answers and, especially in places like that, have unsolved mysteries?

You know, you guys dive into that all the time and like, you know there's ways to get answers on ghost equipment.

But what if we could use psychics and mediums as our quote-unquote ghost equipment or tools to the other side?

And so when we're brainstorming, like what would be, that would be really cool to bring a psychic, you know what would be even cooler if we had three different psychics that use three different methods of communication.

We see which one works best.

And then also, what if all three of their answers line up?

Wouldn't that collaboration like make it so much more believable?

If we did get an answer uh, which is kind of what happened.

Wow yeah, and it was absolutely mind-blowing.

I didn't expect that.

Yeah, we wanted to basically like run an experiment where we had like each one of these individual psychics come in without the other ones around, and then so they they weren't influenced by each other, and so what we did is we actually this sounds really bad.

We actually like blindfolded all the psychics and they had no idea like, where they were at all.

And we had like one producer on this trip that was helping us out with like transporting them, like to and from the haunted location.

But yeah, they had zero idea besides like obviously the hotel that they were in.

They kind of knew like the area of like the state that we were in.

But that's about it.

Um, and then at the way end of the investigation, the end of the video, we had all of them come together for one final investigation to see if, like they were going to maybe contradict each other or like fight for who's like opinion, was right.

Or maybe all agree.

We didn't know.

So it was just a massive, I was hoping for that to be honest.

It was just a massive experiment.

We were just like really curious about it and thought it was a cool concept.

Yeah, it really is.

It was so much fun.

Yeah.

And also we're going to say this like a million times during this but go watch the video, because – Yeah, you've got to watch the video.

You need to watch it on Sam and Colby's page.

It is crazy.

Thank you.

When we say it was unlike anything we've ever experienced before.

I was – because we were sitting at the Longhorn Steakhouse –

Let's go.

And you guys are like asking us like what are your thoughts on mediums?

Do you believe?

Are you skeptical?

I mostly believe.

Yeah.

And you were super like pretty skeptical.

Yeah.

I'm one of those people that believes like most of them are probably lying and just trying to get money or, like you know, whatever from it.

But I think they exist and I think there are some that are real, especially like mediums.

I'm more apt to believe, I think.

I don't know why.

So I went into this like totally, I was like three.

I feel like three, we're going to get like maybe one that works.

I was shocked.

We kind of believe the same thing.

Like both Sam and I kind of believe like 85, 90 of psychics are all fake, just doing it for the money.

So, yeah, we, like, specifically chose the three psychics that you guys met for a reason.

The first one was Patti Negri.

She's actually been in the paranormal field for years.

And she has experienced sensing ghosts, like specifically through, like her hands is what we researched.

Which is why when we were walking around, she had her hands out a lot.

Yeah, she did, yeah.

Since childhood.

And she's been on every single TV show you can even think of, so she's very, very credible.

We were like okay, we gotta, we gotta test her.

She's been around, um.

And then there was a guy named mystic dylan.

Mystic dylan, five ever.

Yeah yes, i love mystic dylan.

He's insane.

He's been going so viral recently just because he does a special technique called claromancy, which is like throwing objects.

He specifically uses animal bones and other totems, I think is what he called them.

And he's able to throw these bones onto a table or onto the floor and then, depending on how they fall, onto this mat that he had, he's able to read what's going on in the room or what happened in the past or the future.

I'm not going to lie.

When you told us that at dinner, I was like, I don't know how that's going to work.

I'm not sure about that one, actually.

I went into that one very skeptical.

I'm like, as a non-skeptic, I might be a little skeptical about that.

That one was by far the one I was just like, there is no way this works at all.

But I feel like out of all of the different methods, that was the most mind-blowing.

Absolutely, it was.

Which we'll get into, but that was 100% crazy accurate.

That was nuts.

And then the last was our good friend.

Her name is Pythian Priestess.

She's Her name's Ashley.

Same.

Yeah.

She's been like our personal, not personal, but like she's helped us personally as like our spirit guide for the last, like two, three years.

And her expertise, at least what we found, is like tarot.

Definitely.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

And so she.

We wanted to bring her last so that it was a familiar face to the channel and that she could help us solve this like mystery once and for all.

And she did.

She was incredible with the tarot jumped right into.

It was like okay, where are we going?

Let's go boom.

Yeah, it was wild.

And that was a little like interesting too, because we told them absolutely nothing and they literally took off their blindfold as they were walking up to the sk pierce mansion.

It was kind of just like uh, all right, we want to see what you guys get.

Yeah, we didn't tell them any information, You know, we just kind of like had them go find a room, find like the areas that they felt the most activity, and just like went for it.

Yep.

After they would get something, we would tell them a yes or no.

That kind of lines up with the research or not.

But it was really interesting to see, like from scratch, like literal, nothing like blindfold off.

They're already feeling and and sensing the things that lined up with the history of the location.

You guys have been to the location, to ghost town, before too.

Yeah, we had gone with um sabrina corinne and pain lindsey.

Yeah, and we and i, like these psychics came from like all over.

Yeah, they weren't like massachusetts based and even if they were, i didn't know about this k pierce mansion until ash covered it on one of our episodes.

I'd never heard of it and i've lived here my entire life And I hadn't heard of it until, I think I like Googled, like most haunted places in Massachusetts, and it popped up on a list.

It's not something you would just know.

It's not like the Lizzie Borden house that like is pretty well known.

Or like the witch house in Salem.

Yeah, like I felt like so all of them were like, yeah, I don't know what this house is.

And I was like, I fully believe that because I wouldn't have known what this.

And even if you did, like we've gone to this mansion before.

You guys have too.

And to recall all the different nuances of the family history and everything would be impossible.

Like we didn't even know.

We had to like restudy for all this.

And so the fact that they were picking out things that were like so detailed.

Yeah.

And it lined up perfectly.

It was just really mind blowing.

Also for like the skeptics out there like yeah, you could say like they knew what hotel we were staying at, so they can go on their Google maps and like search up haunted places and make like an educated guess and like study or whatever.

But then how did the methods that they were doing line up with everything in the story?

That's the thing.

Because the tools, like, Patty's, like, the queen of, like, dowsing rods, you guys were saying.

And, like, her tools were making sense with Dylan, his bones.

Like there was no way he could have thrown them into a perfect alignment, for what had happened there.

Yeah, because even we could see the story that they were showing.

That was the thing that I loved the most, that like he wasn't making up like what these symbols meant.

Like, they made sense for what they meant.

And then they would fall in a way that I was like, oh, yeah, that does say that.

Yeah, you could confirm it yourself, like he couldn't fake that.

And then with tarot, even like with ashley, the things that were popping up, i know a little bit, a bit of tarot, so i was like, oh yeah, like that does make sense.

And we saw her like shuffling the cards every time, like she was not picking.

No, you know right yeah crazy, it's pretty insane.

So yeah, like the whole premise of the video was hey, this place is really haunted.

So we obviously want, like you know, just you, ghost hunt in general, but our main goal was to figure out this unsolved murder.

Now there was this bone that was found in the basement of the sk pierce mansion house and they think that it was from a 16 year old girl.

It was like a pelvic bone, but they have no idea who that person was and the killer.

Now the people that have been investigating for a long time have their thoughts on who they think it could have been, but nothing has ever been confirmed.

And so we're like okay, What better to do then?

Get all the psychics to figure out their answer.

And if all those things line up, that is Really insane, because we were not telling all the information that we got from the previous psychic to the next psychic independently, Like finding these answers, and we were the ones that were like, you know, Corroborating.

Yeah, I kind of feel bad because it kind of felt like I don't know if you guys got the same vibe, but it kind of felt like each psychic would come in.

And then we were just like go, and yeah, do it?

Go, tell me about it.

That's the thing like when you say it like you feel bad.

But they just got right to it.

Yeah, you know because, like patty walked in and we were just like, where do you want to go?

She was just like, she just like led us somewhere on the spot.

Yeah well, she got hit with like a wave when we like what?

When she first walked in, she literally did like this.

Yeah, she did like Yeah,

What was funny about Patty's investigation was, I feel like almost immediately everything started pointing to you, Elena.

Yeah.

It was like, okay, get called out.

Yeah.

Right off the bat.

I was like, great.

And it was saying, like, Patty kept hearing, like, Wanta, Wanda, or, like, something like that.

And I was like, is it, like, want her?

Like, I want her?

Want her.

Like, what is happening?

And I kind of think it was, actually.

Well, I think one of the main things that we, like, understood about that was...

They found some sort of correlation with how you looked versus the you know supposed like wife, first wife of SK.

And when later on, like we didn't even know this at the time, like later on, we went and talked to the caretaker and she was like, oh yeah, the first wife of SK had red hair.

And we're like, what?

And she specifically brought that up.

She was like, he likes your hair.

I kept saying that.

When the caretakers confirmed it, I was like, whoa.

And we didn't tell the caretakers anything.

We were just like, oh, hey, what color hair did SK's first wife have?

We said, what did she look like?

Or we said, do you have pictures?

And she was like, oh, we don't have pictures, but we know that she had red hair.

And we were like, oh, fuck.

And what's crazy about that too is like SK remarried pretty shortly after, like his first wife, Susan passed away to a much younger wife, like 30 years younger.

Yeah, he was getting it.

Named Ellen.

And so, yeah, it's rumored that SK like did that for potentially the wrong reasons.

And that's why he might have been drawn to you as a redhead because, you like, reminded him of his first wife.

It's crazy.

It's so creepy.

And he likes the younger gals.

Yeah.

And you're just a couple hundred years younger.

Just a couple hundred years.

I mean, you seemed to be targeted, like, almost the entire night.

Yeah, you really were.

Honestly, I thought it was when Patty did it, I was like, okay, like, this is funny.

And then afterwards, I was like, that's not going to happen again.

Like, I thought that was just a Patty thing, and maybe that would just be the end of it.

I was like, the other ones aren't going to confirm that.

And then it just kept happening.

Each one of them did.

I was like, is this real?

Like, what is going on?

Even to the point of, like, at the end of the night, like, when we were, like, sitting in the basement, you got... touched right yeah so we were this was um with ashley yes in the basement and we were sitting in a circle and she was doing the tarot and i had my jacket on like my leather jacket and i i was just like paying attention to what she was doing and it felt suddenly like someone like grabbed my shoulder and you're kind of explaining that it wasn't just a tap or a pull it was a grab a grab yeah like a firm grab and i've never ever ever felt anything like that like i haven't been poked i haven't had any of that stuff happen when you had such a visceral reaction like you jumped and you like went into like fight mode immediately i'm like i'm ready to punch it yeah because it wasn't it was not like a brush or anything like that you could be like oh maybe like my hair or something brushed against it was like bull on like something did this to my shoulder like a clock In that moment, Ashley so casually was like, well, it's because you look like her.

Yeah.

And she was saying like you, look like the girl who we believe was killed in the house or near the house.

I was like, damn.

And she said it so casually.

She was like, oh, yeah, well, like, you look like her.

Yeah, that was scary.

And once again, we didn't tell Ashley what we had found previously.

So she was just coming up with that on her own accord.

Yeah.

And she just it was so spooky when she just turned and looked at me and was like, because you look like her.

I was like, oh.

Yeah.

What?

It was wild.

And I think Dylan had already said something to that effect too.

He later, he was like, he was like, I knew she had red hair.

I said that.

Like, he was like, I was going to say that earlier.

So, yeah.

It came to him too.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think, just so we can go chronologically, like more of the things that Patty had said while we were there.

Mm-hmm.

Well, she, we initially got that we were talking to SK.

Mm-hmm.

So I think that's where we first got, um.

You felt like we weren't, though.

So that's the thing.

When we got down to the basement and we kind of started to learn like more about the family dynamic and that kind of thing, I feel like, whoever we were talking to, like whoever was, you know, like doing the dowsing rods with Patty I think they were pretending to be SK.

Mm-hmm.

Because it felt a little, the more it kept pointing at you, like it felt creepier.

And S.K. didn't seem to have like a super like nefarious spirit.

Like he seemed pretty chill.

Yeah.

And it didn't really sound like he was involved in the murder or anything like that.

So I was like, could it have been like Frank?

Because he liked how you looked.

And then like.

I hate that a lot more.

Do you know what I mean though?

I would have rather S.K.

I just feel like S.K. wouldn't have been as creepy.

Yeah.

For a little backstory, like the Pierce family, like SK was the guy that built the house.

He had two different wives and he built the house for the first wife but she died immediately and they've moved in.

And so he had one, one older son with the first wife and then two more sons.

And so the three sons were married, most likely the three suspects of the person that would like have killed somebody in the house, because the family lineage still owned the SK mansion while this murder occurred.

And yeah, so there apparently was a female that was not in the family that was found in the basement buried under like a kiln or a furnace or something like that.

So basically we're like the whole.

The whole gist of it was which family member and why was would they kill this random person?

And what's the relation to the family?

Yeah, and they were stepbrothers too, like you were saying.

The first wife had just the oldest son, but then he remarried and it was the other two.

And so there was already kind of some conflict.

When Ellen died, everybody had to figure out who gets the mansion.

And so obviously Frank being the oldest son is just like, it should be me.

It should be me, but Stuart and Edward Edward's the youngest also were fighting over it, but Edward ended up being the one who got it.

And not to make things more confusing, but after he acquired it, I guess in the early 1900s, like 1902 specifically, it turned into a boarding home, to where now not just its family history is there, but now there's a bunch of random people just using this house Debauchery.

Yeah.

From random things like gambling, whatever.

Yep.

Yeah.

All the things.

Yeah.

So I think what's so interesting is how complex that lineage is and everything like that.

Like how many family members are a part of it versus not versus how many wives.

All these different things.

It just makes it so much more impressive how accurate all these readings were from the psychics.

Yeah, like talking about sk and all this stuff is really really interesting.

But then uh, one other aspect which i think we were getting at is it said that like 17 spirits are haunting this house.

Yeah, but a lot of people believe that there is some sort of non-human spirit in the basement which could be, like you said, maybe tricking people and yeah, saying i am sk and stuff like that, which uh obviously just throws a wrench and everything.

Yeah, well then patty was saying too, like there's a what was she calling him?

Like a creeper, a creeper.

She's saying there's a creeper and like he keeps like poking his head out and then like fall, but he's following us, but he doesn't want us to know.

So that threw me for a loop too.

I was like i don't know.

I just my like intuition is saying like it wasn't sk, That was victimizing you.

Damn.

You know?

Which is crazy because if it was the murderer who was like victimizing, that's so like messed up.

That's even scarier.

Yeah.

Because he did.

He told us he was just like like, if it was him, he was just like it's somebody in the family, but I can't tell you who.

Right.

Yeah.

Which would make sense because he wouldn't want to rat himself out.

Because he's not going to say he did it.

And it's like maybe SK, like he probably knows in the afterlife, but he wasn't alive whenever this happened.

So

Yeah, correct.

You know?

Exactly.

It is interesting.

Which means do you think the creeper that Patty saw was this negative entity instead of the murderer?

It was just like a negative creature?

Well, I think she was saying that he was a human spirit and he was just like lingering around to see if we're going to figure it out.

Yeah.

I think she was saying it was one of the stepbrothers.

Interesting.

So do you feel like it was Frank like trying to see if we were going to figure it out?

Could have been.

Yeah.

Or it was Frank was the one answering and the creeper was like Edward or Stuart.

Yeah.

I hope it was Stuart.

Yeah, Stuart doesn't get talked about.

Stuart was so handsome.

That was Edward.

No, that was Stuart, she said.

Oh, I thought she said Edward.

She said that was Stuart.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, the little picture that we saw.

I was like, oh my God, look at this man.

Whoever that was was adorable.

I could see him just peeking around.

Exactly.

Are you going to figure it out?

Yeah, being like, hey, my brother was such an asshole.

Figure it out.

Sorry, he's still being a creep.

Yeah.

I think it was really, really cool to see what pieces of the puzzle we were able to find out through all different psychics.

I think the main thing we figured out with Patty was this idea of protecting the secret, which I think became a huge core storyline for the entire thing.

They would not give up the secret because they were afraid of their image.

The image came up so much.

Patty kept saying that's specific word and it went through the rest of the psychics too.

They kept saying the image they were like okay, we have this like really like high-end family and we're the kings of the town, we have this big business, we want to seem like we have everything figured out.

And if we had this like turmoil with our family and like some of our like you know sons are bad apples, that's bad yeah, and so it's like yes, like i'll give you enough that it was in the family, but i don't want to talk about who it was or Or how it went down, because I didn't want to sacrifice this like you know image they had.

Right, right.

It's so true.

Which is really, really interesting.

And then what's wild too, like kind of like a side note from like that sort of plot.

So we went upstairs and you guys had been to the SKA Pierce Mansion before and in a specific room.

There was something traumatic happen where she, Patty was like, there's definitely a portal in here.

Yeah, and we had already been told there's a portal in there.

Yeah, so that's on the third floor?

Yeah, it's on the third floor.

In the back.

And it was the game room.

Yep, the billiards room.

And it's where they used to like, you know, debauch.

Yeah, debauch.

I thought it was interesting.

Gambling.

Exactly.

Dylan kept bringing up gambling.

Yeah, that used to happen in there.

And that was a billiard room, game room.

Yeah, big thing in there.

Yeah, and there's like a big walk-in closet in that room and there's like stories that like really bad things used to happen in that closet, especially with, like women that they would bring into the house.

Yeah, because women weren't allowed in the room unless they were brought into the room.

Yeah, that tells you everything.

They weren't there by their own consent right, and when we went um the last time we walked into that room and immediately we're like all of us felt off, this is off.

And then we went in the i think I didn't go in the closet.

You didn't go in.

I went in.

I think Payne went in.

I think Sabrina might have gone in.

And I think Sabrina went in.

And all of us were, like, this feels yucky in here.

I was, like, I don't want to be in here at all.

One of you guys felt, like, suffocated.

Like, you felt, like, short of breath.

Yeah, we were all feeling really gross about it.

And I think later we came back to it, and it was still, like, something was off.

I think we had like something was happening with our lights.

Remember the camera was like oh yeah, making something happen.

Yeah, it was something like pain was looking and there was like a white like grid, just like yeah, it was weird yeah, it was very strange and it was only happening in certain places.

And so when we came in here with patty, immediately her saying like there's a portal in here, we were like yeah, and then she starts saying like there's good, like good energy and bad, or like it feels good but it feels bad at the same time, which like makes so much sense because there were so much celebration and stuff in there.

Well, there's so many men having so many pleasurable experiences in there, but there's a lot of women who are having terrible experiences in there.

So it's like, when she said that, I was like, that's literally what happened in this room.

Yeah, it's a balance.

It was like every bit 50-50.

And I think all three of them said something about cigars.

And I think SK was like big on cigars because they're throughout the house.

But specifically, they were smoked in that room.

Yeah, that was interesting.

All three of the psychics said like, I smell cigar smoker.

I feel cigar.

Like...

Cigar business.

I feel cigar vibes.

Cigar vibes.

Yeah.

I remember specifically too, like Patty, maybe it wasn't on the third floor.

Could be wrong.

But like the second floor, she kept being like, it's like hard to breathe.

I'm like, I just want to like speak, but it sounds like I'm being like silenced or whatever.

It feels like I'm being silenced.

And so I wonder if that was like her, like feeling the women who wanted to speak up back in the day.

Yeah.

Probably.

Because it seems like it was a theme in that house that especially women were silenced.

Yeah.

Or like we got with Patty like controlled.

Yes.

Yeah.

We went up to the third floor.

Yeah.

We went to the quote unquote servant's room.

Mm-hmm.

And she got a lot of like oh, I feel like people were silenced, people were controlled in this room.

Yeah, they were doing things against their will.

Yeah, she even brought up like possible, like drugged or something like that, like that kind of feeling.

Yeah, she said like um, feeling like i'm in an altered state, but like it wasn't my decision, i think she said yeah, which is really creepy.

That was terrifying.

And that was where, because that's supposedly where like, the 16-year-old girl was staying and, I think, another girl, right.

Yeah, I think there was two maids, right?

Yeah.

That lived in that room.

Susan and Sarah.

Yeah.

And Susan was the 16-year-old girl who was also like a prime suspect or victim.

Yeah.

I thought she might be the pelvic bone.

Yeah, the pelvic bone girl.

Mm-hmm.

And when we were in there with Patty and she was using the dowsing rods they like flicked over to you really fast.

Yeah.

That was the weirdest experience.

Like one of the weirdest experiences I've had, because I think when we walked in there she was talking about like feeling pressure in her head.

And as she was saying it, I felt it.

But I was like, maybe this is like a placebo effect.

Like I think I'm just feeling pressure.

Yeah.

And then she was trying to talk to whoever was in there and we felt like it was like a young person.

And I, like, I love kids.

And I think the last time we were on the USS Salem, like, I got followed by a ghost.

Yeah.

I was like, I don't know.

Like, I'll just say something in my head.

I was like, like, you're safe here with us.

And the dowsing rods flicked to me in that moment.

And she said, what'd she say?

Like, she just grabbed on to you or, like, she just jumped over to you.

Yeah.

And it was, like, they flicked at me right as I thought that in my head and she said it.

Yeah.

And then she was trying to get more information and I said something else in my head and she said, like she grabbed on tighter, like something like that.

Yeah, it happened multiple times.

Yeah.

Where you're like, you're going to be all right, and I think the second time it was like, I got you.

Yeah.

And right after you said I got you, I like flicked over and was like oh, they're over with you now.

Yeah.

It was really interesting.

It was weird because I didn't like feel anything on my body or anything like that.

But having the confirmation of the dowsing rods like flick at me, that was weird.

Yeah, because how could she have known that?

Yeah.

No, that's... In your head.

Exactly.

Exactly. my favorite part of the whole patty investigation was the machette you know the machette was i felt bad because i was like i'm taking it seriously but it just sounded so silly that i'm cracking up on camera i think that's like kind of the point it's like you're putting so much energy that it is kind of like like basically we were screaming for like two minutes we're like Whoever was downstairs was probably like, what the fuck?

They were like, we heard you guys screaming up there.

Yeah.

It was insane.

I've never done anything like that.

But it was cool.

It definitely brought up the energy for sure.

Yeah.

It did.

And she said that it will like bring more spirits out.

And it definitely felt like it did.

Because in the beginning, it felt like we were kind of only talking to SK maybe.

And then the like girl in that room.

But then when like the rest of the psychics came in, we definitely got more, I felt like.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

Because we heard some weird noises, like shuffling noises happening.

We were trying to follow it, but we didn't find where it was happening.

Which, yeah, full disclosure, there was a guide downstairs.

For the first half.

Yeah, for the first half.

Then she left during Mystic Dylan.

But also our producer was bringing the psychics there and back.

So we were a little confused at the beginning if it was that person or not, the guide.

But after Dylan left, the noises, I feel like they didn't stop.

Yeah, they kept going.

Yeah.

They're everywhere.

Particularly when we were in the fire room, I think.

Yes.

We were like really going.

And you had texted your producer and you were like, was that you?

And some of it was, but not all of it, you said, right?

Yeah.

He just said like, oh, the owners were just leaving.

Like it should be quiet now.

But we heard more.

Yes.

There was more like right after that.

For a long period of time.

Because every single time we try to start talking.

Yeah.

It was every time Dylan would try to speak that all of a sudden it would sound like craziness was happening.

Let's talk about Dylan.

This was insane.

First of all, the second he walked in, you and I, I think, like, shared a telekinesis moment.

We were both like, I love him.

Yeah.

Like, as soon as he walked in, I was like, yeah.

I was like, new best friend unlocked.

Love him a lot.

Yeah yeah, his look and his demeanor was awesome.

Oh, he's so charming, i love him.

Yeah, so apparently he had studied like a specific version of cleromancy and like mediumship in egypt, in new orleans too, in new orleans, voodoo and all that stuff anteria right yeah, it was.

It was really interesting, something we had never even heard of before.

Yeah, much less.

Like you know what are we gonna, if we're gonna believe it or not and, to be quite honest, i was highly skeptical, just as we were talking about this, when we first like, like talked about this with her uh, like creative team, like hmm, is this even a good idea?

Like i don't know if it's genuinely possible at all for for this to work.

But they assured us that like, the reason why mystic dylan is blowing up is because his readings are so incredibly accurate.

Right, All right well, let's give it a try.

The whole point of this video is to test the psychic.

So like, why not?

Let's see it.

And so we immediately go upstairs to the wife's room, the second wife's room, Ellen.

And they called it the red room because all of the wallpaper was red.

And he was like, hmm, let's immediately do a session right here on her bed.

And that, I think, was the highlight of that.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

I agree.

The first time he tossed everything, I was like, whoa.

No expectation at all.

Like, what's going to happen?

He basically got all these bones and totems in a shell.

Yeah, a shell.

I don't know.

And then threw him onto the bed, onto this map.

And within this one toss he basically explained everything to a T about the story of the escapeeers mansion.

Yeah.

The pelvis bone, which he had a pelvic bone, first of all, was nuts.

Like an animal pelvic bone.

An animal one, yeah.

And it went right into the center.

So it was like the center of our story.

I was like I just remember like slowly backing up and just being like no, this can't be real, real.

And he even had like a totem that had, like you know, playing card symbols on it that were like the gambling things.

He had like a bunch of like little penis totems.

Yeah, he was like something about this murder has to do with sex or something like that, or an affair or anything like that.

Yeah, and then there was even like a frog on its back and he said, like the frog represented fertility.

But because it was on its back, it was like like yeah yeah yeah, something to do with fertility stuff.

Yeah, that was my favorite part of the entire night, because i was just watching like all of our faces and like i'm like hidden in a hoodie, like i look over at you two and you're both just like backing away, like mind blown, and like dylan has no idea like yeah, that we're freaking out so much.

He's just like yeah no, because again, like it's not, like he's just um, like pulling this out of nowhere, like he's he's reading what he threw out.

Yeah right, and so he's just like well, this looks like this and we're just all reacting, trying not to confirm.

There's a lot of uh, this is like a family house with like a lot of spirits that are in the family here, but there was a murder of someone outside the family, you see over here, and it seems like there was oh, the dice says, two.

There's two wives, and one was much younger than the other one and we're like oh, What the hell is going on right now.

I can't believe this.

Because like the dice, like how do you throw a two?

Yeah.

And then be like, yeah, there's two wives.

Yeah, like two wives.

He said one was more like a matronly energy, like older.

Yes.

And then the other one's like more energetic and more like, and he's like youthful.

Maybe like age.

And we were like, oh.

And then like off to the corner over here, it says like there's one thing about this house that is like a message that isn't uncovered yet right yeah, he was like like a mystery and we were like that's exactly what we're doing, like what is happening at this point.

We had not told him anything and so it's just like okay, on your very first throw you just get all the history right.

All right cool, let's figure this out.

See what happens.

And he's like smelling of like smoke and he's like huh, I don't know.

What is that smell of perfume and smoke or whatever?

And Colby's like, oh, let's go to this other room.

Let's just, I don't know, do another reading.

And immediately his like, first throw was on, like the same map.

But he put out some cards with symbols and like, this promise ring was landed right on a fire.

And what's crazy is, in that specific room, out of all of the different things and deaths that happened, that was the only room that someone died because of a fire.

Yep, he did not know this, we didn't tell him that anything, and it literally had a symbol of a guy who died that was not part of the family.

Yeah, he was from the fire and it was like Wait, what am I looking at right now?

How is this possible?

To your point.

It's kind of hard to describe this mat, but there was basically a circle and then a bunch of little symbols on it.

When he threw all the bones, most of them, basically 95% of them went into the center.

Of the circle, but then only the ones you were talking about, like this totem pole sort of looking symbol thing, and then like a skeleton, then like a promise ring and then like a card that had fire on it.

Yeah.

Like, which was basically just saying like hey, it's not part of this story that you guys are looking to find out, but somebody else died.

Literally on the outside.

And then we realized that, in the time that it was a boarding house, that there was a guy named Eno Sari who was a mechanic.

And he one night came home super drunk, was smoking a cigarette and lit himself on fire and actually died of smoke inhalation.

So he also suffocated, which makes sense why Patty was like, I feel like –

Yeah.

I can't breathe.

And then Dylan was also like, I smell smoke up here.

And we all smelled smoke too, which was wild.

When we walked into that room, it was like a bonfire smell.

Like shot up my nose.

Yeah.

It was insane.

You have a deviated septum too.

You can't smell shit.

Yeah.

So that was wild yeah, it was crazy yeah, and it was funny too because he was like he.

You could almost see, he was like i like, because it was so clear, and he was like i'm not necessarily saying like somebody died by fire, but like it looks like somebody died, and we were like no, like someone died.

Yeah, we were trying so hard not to be like you guys.

Keep going, keep going.

Well, then we went downstairs and that was when he threw.

I forget like what we were asking.

We were just trying to get like a little deeper into it.

And that was when one of the bones went on the floor.

Yeah.

And he was like, oh, something wants us to go in the basement.

And he was like, I'm not going in the basement.

And we hadn't said like anything to him about like, well, they found a pelvic bone in the basement.

And like that is ultimately where we're going to end up tonight.

And he, like, he was like, I'm not going down there.

Like, I do not want to go down there.

Yeah.

But something wanted us to.

Uh-huh.

And like not to like confuse people.

But going back in the video Patty, also in that same room, was like I don't know what it is, but there's something like with the fireplace.

Yes.

And so, even though it wasn't in that specific room, the pelvic bone was found the 16-year-old girl in the furnace downstairs.

Yeah.

And so her and Dylan's findings, like, actually matched up right there.

They lined up.

Yeah.

That was crazy.

Crazy.

And she said, she was like, that's I think like where you're going to find your next clue.

And we did.

Which we did find it.

It was wild how they all like synced up.

It was like we needed multiple parts of the story to really understand, like who this person was and who the killer was.

And it was like little pieces from each investigation all coincided and told the whole story together.

Yeah, it really did.

But then so many things overlapped definitely.

Yeah, it was crazy, it really was.

I'm trying to think if there was anything else like huge that dylan said.

There was just so many things that were like spot on with him.

Yeah, one thing that i thought was really interesting was a time that he wasn't doing his claromancy.

He was walking around at the front and we didn't know this at the time.

But uh, like he pointed out a little piece of the history that like apparently it was like more recent and he kept looking over the pianos and he's like hmm, there's a guy that really likes to play the piano.

And he really likes sitting there and just like washing over people and stuff.

But yeah, just an older man.

And then, like later on throughout the night, we went and asked the caretaker and she gave us a sheet of paper.

And right there there's a guy named James that they were seeing recently, that plays the piano and washes over people.

And it's like, what?

Are you like, And he just did that casually.

Yeah.

Like, he was just walking around.

And that was, like, such a random detail of the story, you know?

Uh-huh.

It didn't have anything to do with the story, really.

It was just kind of like, oh, here's another ghost.

Right, yeah.

It was just feeling that off in the distance.

It was like, how do you... Like, that's so specific.

Yeah.

And, like, how do we know that that's even part of it?

At first, we were like, we haven't heard of anything like that.

Yeah.

Lo and behold, you go and do a little more research, boom.

It made sense.

Right there.

And I do want to, like...

What was interesting about that is, like at that point the caretaker had left, like when we were upstairs.

And so we actually found that just from like an information packet that was on like the kitchen table.

Sam and I did a lot of research on this place and had no idea there was, like, a James character.

Yeah.

That was this piano player until we were just like taking a little break, like read through this packet.

A James who loves to play piano.

Like, there he is.

What?

Like, boom.

He had said it.

It's crazy.

It was funny too, because at first I was like what, that doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

And then I was like, oh shit, it does.

Not our specific story, but the story of the ghost.

It's still a story.

Yeah, and that's when we had Ashley come in.

And we took her straight to the basement.

She was so down for anything.

She walked in, you guys introduced us, you kind of told her what we were doing.

And you were like, so we're going to the basement.

And she was like, alright, where is it?

Let's go.

And she just started right away.

Like she went into it.

Yeah.

We like went through all the rooms down there.

We get down and immediately in the room where there's the furnace, she goes, don't like that room.

Like immediately.

Yeah.

Like she looked at the corner exactly where the girl supposedly was like buried.

And he's like, I don't like that corner.

It's like, it's like seven rooms downstairs.

And she points exactly to it.

It's like, no, right there.

I'm like, okay.

Yeah.

What is going on?

She also opened a door at one point and just went, nope.

And then I was like, what's in there?

I know.

That was like a closet.

She didn't tell us.

We just moved on.

I was like, you know what?

We don't need to know.

Let's move on.

When she says no to a door, you're like alright, I'll respect it, it's fine, we don't need to mess with it.

But then she's like okay well, my main thing is like rituals.

So you guys want to start off with like a ritual and I was like that's cool, let's do it.

She pulls out this mat and she's like Don't look at the mat.

Oh, my God.

And then all you want to do is look at the fucking mat.

I could not stop staring at that.

I kept looking at it and being like, stop looking at it.

I was so scared that I was going to go into a trance or something.

I love it, though.

She's like, don't look at it.

Yeah, she's like, don't look at it too long.

If you look at these symbols, you're going to fall into a trance.

I know.

I was so scared.

And we're like, uh, okay.

It was a giant like circular, it kind of.

Yeah, it almost looked like it was like a big like pentagram thing, but it just, it was just like a giant like black circle with like one big symbol on it.

Like a moon kind of thing.

Yeah, a bunch of like moon banana looking things.

Yeah, literally.

And before she laid it out, she looked at me and Elena and she's like, what are your signs?

We like told her.

I was so scared.

I was like Capricorn.

She goes, okay, you'll be fine.

And I was like, uh.

What?

Yeah.

It's like, would I not be fine?

Yeah.

I think she said, like if you were water signs, it would probably, and you were like I have a water moon.

I have a water moon.

Is that all right?

She's like, that's cool.

You're chilling.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

We had never done that sort of, I guess you can call it like exercise or ritual with her before.

So that was new to us, by the way.

I don't know if we explained that.

But yeah, she basically had us all stand into the mat and then plug one nostril.

Yeah.

And breathe in slowly.

Nine times or something.

Yeah.

Nine times.

And then she, after we did that, like obviously we were like woozy a little bit.

Yeah.

It gets you into like a state for sure.

Uh-huh.

And then she just said now just start like close your eyes and start saying like what comes to mind?

Yeah.

That worked really well for you, Ash, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, it worked so well that I was like doubting myself though.

What happened?

At one point I got a pain in my side, in my right side, and I was like, I have a pain.

And she goes, what side?

I said, right.

She goes, me too.

I was like, okay.

And then I saw.

So I saw the name Kathleen flash in my head.

But I just said I saw the letter K because I was like I don't want to sound like an idiot if it's like not Kathleen.

Yeah.

So I was like, I saw a K, and she was like, okay, you guys saw stuff too.

You saw fingernails.

Yeah, and I think like full transparency.

I'm thinking about it now and I'm like it might have just been like the weird little like things when you close your eyes and you can kind of see shapes.

Oh, yeah.

You know, if you like close your eyes and you just kind of sit there for a second.

I was like I don't know.

It kind of looks like fingernails.

No, but it could be something.

But I don't know.

She might have been, like, dragged down there or something.

Because after that, I was like, I don't see anything.

Yeah, you guys saw some stuff too, like...

Yeah, because I was filming.

I was not doing the whole thing as much, so I don't even think I saw anything at all, but you did.

I remember you said, I see fire.

Yeah.

And then I saw a tear on a cheek.

Yeah, yeah.

I remember that, but I can't remember.

Remember what else i saw.

To be honest, it was only like a minute that we were throwing.

It was rapid fire, literally.

Yes, i don't know.

She asked me how i was with meditation before we did that and i was like i have no experience.

Yeah, i was like i'm the most.

I'm so stressed.

I took a witchy class recently and we would do like a couple meditations every class, so i weirdly got good at it uh-huh, uh.

So i do feel like i tapped in for sure.

Yeah, you were like That is the purpose of it.

It's like she wanted us to become in a trance.

Yeah.

And like have that intuitiveness.

Yeah.

And that's how a lot of these investigative methods like occur is like we're supposed to be in a trance.

You're supposed to be open to the spirits that communicate through you.

Right.

Because otherwise you will second guess.

Yeah, exactly.

Like I was second guessing myself.

And if you're open to things.

It's hard not to though.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, the same thing like we're talking about too a lot is like kids versus adults.

Like if you're like I don't know, I'm doubting myself all the time.

Versus kids are more open to things.

And so, like when you put yourself in a trance, you are like a little more open and susceptible to influence.

Yeah.

And so when you feel something, you really can actually like understand it and go with that gut feeling as opposed to like turning it off.

Yeah.

And being like, nah, we got to face reality.

Right, right.

Yeah.

Which was really interesting because what did this K have to do?

Yeah, so then we moved back into the furnace room and Ashley started doing tarot.

And we were really trying to determine a name.

And we had a name at first that we thought it was.

Well, she said she got a gut feeling that was Catherine.

Catherine, that's what it was.

So we asked the tarot, and the tarot said no.

And then I was like, okay, I'll put myself on the line here.

Was it Kathleen?

And she goes, yes.

And I was like, that was like a crazy moment.

I was like, oh, wow, I should have said that back there.

Because that was the original thing that you saw, not a K, Kathleen.

I saw Kathleen like flash in my head.

But it's also my grandma's name and we've been taking care of her.

So I was like, maybe I'm like influenced somehow.

Maybe.

So you were second guessing.

But I was second guessing.

It's so easy to.

Yeah.

So she was like, yes, it is.

And so we confirmed that the girl who was like possibly murdered and thrown down there was Kathleen.

Kathleen.

Which is really interesting.

Which was different than Susan who we thought potentially could have been upstairs.

But yeah, to kind of like paint a picture for like the people like listening, we didn't know that you could just do yes or no answers using a tarot.

But, yeah, she still used the entire deck.

And then with intention, we would just ask the question.

Any of us could have asked the question.

And she like put down a bunch of cards and still was able to like flip a certain one that was like yes or no.

And so it was, like, direct...

That was crazy.

What was it?

It was, like, she said the major arcana was the yes or no.

And then when we wanted to get more specific, she put, like, the full deck in.

And she had this cool thing where like, she lays out the cards and then she tops them on one another and then she flips them.

Which I was like, that's so cool.

Yeah, and there was one point where, like I noticed, she like she went to grab one and it like stayed.

And she grabbed it.

And she literally said, don't block me.

And then grabbed it and I was like, you tell them.

I was like, good for you.

She was firm, she's awesome, she's like no, i'm not gonna take any bullshit like we got this.

Yeah, and that right there in that circle is where you got touched.

Yeah, that's where i got to.

And i i almost second guessed myself of like, am i just being freaked out?

But it was so strong when you jumped and i made like a bit like a visceral movement that i was like i need to say what just happened.

And ashley said she was like what just happened?

Like she caught it.

Yeah, It was crazy.

And then we all like set more intentions where you're like, you cannot touch us.

I got so weirdly protective of you in that moment.

I was like, don't touch her.

And actually in the other room when we were doing the meditation, she said something about brownish red hair.

Yeah.

She did.

And I clocked it because I was like, damn, that's the third one that has said that.

All three psychics called out the red hair.

All of them did, because I made sure to remember that.

Because then, when she brought it up again, when I said I got touched, and she was like well, because you look like her.

I was like, oh, you did already say that.

I'll never be over the way she was like, yeah, well, you look like her.

I was just like, oh, shit.

That's so casual, as if she just knew.

It's like, what?

She's talking about the victim, though, right?

Yeah.

So that means, just so it's not confusing, S.K.

Pierce's first wife had red hair, and this 16-year-old girl had red hair.

Yeah.

Okay.

And that's why I'm thinking that it's not SK upstairs with Patty, like you're saying, and it's actually the guy who did it.

That's why I thought that.

Exactly, once we got to that.

Because that would mean his... We're getting into mommy issues here.

His mom had red hair and his mistress did.

Well, that makes sense because to kill you, you usually have mommy issues.

Oh!

Dang.

So did you just give away who the murderer was too, if you guys remember?

I mean, that's what we asked.

I mean, we're about to be there, yeah.

Yeah.

So we thought, some of us thought it was Edward, right?

I thought it was Edward.

You thought it was Edward.

I initially felt Frank.

He's the youngest.

You felt Frank.

And the reason why we got that is because Patty originally had confirmed that it was part of the family, but it wasn't SK.

And we knew it was a girl that was murdered and we got from Dylan that it was a lover or a mistress.

Yeah, there was like a dark romance going on.

And it had to be a part of the family that lived at the house.

So there's only really three suspects at that point.

And so that's where we're at down to like those two.

So we asked if it was Edward.

It was a no.

We asked if it was Frank and it was a yes.

And that's actually interesting because that goes back to something Patty said when she was saying like she wasn't sure if it was one of the brothers.

She felt like it was like a distant family member.

But i almost wonder if she got that feeling because, like sk built the mansion for his wife but then she passed away and like barely lived there and then he married ellen and had two kids, so that was kind of like a new family and frank was on the outskirts of that.

So i do wonder if that's why patty got that feeling.

The stepbrothers yeah outcasted yeah, and he also didn't get any like partaking in like the mansion and the state.

So it's like okay, he's also outcasted there.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Yeah, damn.

Then we started diving deep into like okay, well then, who was frank as a person?

Yeah, and this is when we stopped the yes or no questions and actually started getting details and every single one was like this guy sucks, he Literally.

It was like the lovers in reverse.

He's a cheater.

He had, like, you know, just a bad past.

He got into trouble a lot, which is really, really interesting because at the beginning Patty was saying that she believes that whoever did it, whoever had killed this girl, had a past of maybe killing again, but definitely a troubled past where they had, you know, dabbled and maybe got in trouble with the law, those types of things.

So again, another overlap yeah, of the multiple psychics and that he had like chances to be a better person along the way, but he chose not to.

Yeah, that was interesting.

And then we got kind of into the motive for killing.

And we actually, I think we asked Kathleen, did you, did whoever this was know you were pregnant?

And she said, no, they didn't.

And that basically, we found out that it seemed like she was just going to make their relationship public.

She was going to expose it to the wife.

And that's when they came up with this plan to murder her.

And going back to Dylan, he threw the frog on its back, which is fertility like symbol.

It all makes sense.

All of it does.

And he kept saying, like, there's a dark romance here.

Like, there's some kind of dark, dark romance.

So with Patty, we understood, like, who the killer was.

It had to be part of the family.

And that there was some sort of, like, darker entity there.

And then with Dylan, we understood, like, the nuance of the killing.

Like, it was a mistress who, like, you know, got found out by the wife.

And then with actually, we found out the name and then like how it all went down.

So it's like all the different pieces of the puzzle with three different psychics.

It was really interesting and they never met each other.

You have to say that that's to that point yeah, yeah.

So then we ended it on the Estes method in the basement with all of them.

Yeah.

That one I'm so interested to watch back.

I'm so interested too because we were blindfolded and had headphones on.

So I was like, I don't know what happened.

Yeah, Colby and Ash did like, had the actual like headphones on.

Yeah, the whole ss method is about like, sensory deprivation.

So not only were they blindfolded, they also couldn't hear anything, and all they were hearing was uh this, the static of a spirit box.

Go through and possibly like some, some words through the radio, and so you didn't understand our whole conversation.

But me and elena and the three psychics were asking questions and it was a full-on conversation that you guys were collaborating on.

It wasn't like You were telling a different story than Colby.

It was like Colby would say something and then Ash would follow up and everything would make sense together.

It was shocking.

The only thing I ever heard was just you guys going, oh, like I couldn't hear Colby.

I couldn't hear like the questions you were asking.

I just heard like, I was like, oh damn, like they're freaking out.

Because at one point you said stop and then Colby said recording.

That's so crazy.

And then I think at one point you said like stop and he said now.

I got so many stops at the end specifically.

Yeah, and then bye.

It was just saying bye.

You said something about like time and then you said like eternal or something.

No, that was the weirdest one because, like it was the same idea that you both were just like piggybacking off of each other back and forth.

It was like forever.

It was like time, always, eternal, forever, forever.

And you just kept going back, like, different words for, like, forever.

It was, like, forever, always, eternal, never-ending.

Like, and each one of you would do one, and I was like, what was happening?

How did you feel during that, when that was all happening?

I felt like...

I was kind of like in a, like a little bit of a trance.

Like my head was like down a little bit and yeah, just kind of like a dream state.

Yeah.

It felt like I felt weirdly, almost like I was like spinning, but I wasn't like, I wasn't dizzy, if that makes sense.

Right.

Yeah.

Like almost like a drowsy kind of, I'm not here right now.

Yeah.

It was heady for sure.

It was weird.

And at one point one of you said like, you're mine.

And then the other one said like, like, repeated it or said something similar to it.

And we kept trying to get, like, what that was.

We were like, who wins?

Like, what's going on?

It happened so fast that I, like, don't remember the words that came up.

Yeah.

I mean, especially when you don't know what they were answering.

Yeah.

But what was really interesting about that whole thing was when we were talking to at the first half it was like oh like, keep my secret, those types of things.

Like, I don't want this stuff out.

The main gist of our conversation was, like, Now we've figured it out.

What's going to happen?

It was just like, no, don't do this.

Get out.

Again, protecting the image.

Always protecting the image.

What was interesting is three-fourths of the way through, it kind of changed energies.

It was almost like something else came in and the psychics were like, I don't know about this one.

This is a little darker.

And that's when you were like, you're mine.

It was like, oh, God.

Do we want to be messing with this?

Oh, God.

That's messed up.

So we think we made contact with not only the Pierce family but also whatever is said to be, this non-human entity in the basement, which is really interesting.

The psychics were actually freaked out about this.

They were.

And all their things were going crazy.

They were doing a pendulum and all kinds of things.

They were doing a bunch of tools.

That's great.

I'm so excited to see it.

I know.

I can't wait to see that.

I can't wait to watch that one.

I told Drew that when I got home too.

I was like, I can't wait to show this to you.

I know because I was like, you didn't get to see it.

Yeah.

It was crazy.

I know.

It was funny because like they – all the psychics like obviously are very, very into all this.

They live and breathe the paranormal like just as much or more than we do.

And all of them were like, we have never seen an S's method like this.

They all said that they were like the fact that they were like – intelligently kind of piggybacking off of each other.

It's like not something that happens.

They were like walking away in awe.

And at the end, I think it was four or more times you guys said stop.

And they were the ones that were like, guys, we should stop.

And we're like, what more questions?

No, I remember toward the end, I was getting a little freaked out because it just kept saying stop.

Yeah, you said it a few times.

And the voice that was coming through was like, stop.

Like scary.

Yeah.

And it was getting more intense every time.

So I was about to tap out when whoever tapped me and I jumped out of my skin when whoever tapped me.

Oh yeah, my bad.

That was all good.

But it was, yeah, that was crazy.

It was wild.

The spirits definitely did not want us to talk about this secret, but I don't know who exactly was saying don't tell the secret.

But what they were okay with is they were like okay, if you think that Kathleen, this spirit that might be still there, that had a pretty rough ending to her life, wanted to leave this place, you guys could help her yeah, and so we decided let's end the night um, like let's cleanse everybody in there and then we'll have ashley, who's like practiced in like getting rid of spirits and letting them move on, like do some sort of like ritual, like a cleansing ritual to let the spirit go, which i think was pretty beautiful.

Yeah yeah, it was really really cool.

Yeah, she did a giant banishing ritual.

It was probably like 4 am at this point, 430 maybe.

Yeah, we left at like 345.

I think our producers took like everybody else like back home.

You guys drove, which is crazy, but like yeah, this was insane, this is funny, so fucking funny, and we don't even know this part.

Yeah, we have no idea anything.

Yeah, Ashley told us that it was against like her code and her like order.

I guess you could say for us to like include like the audio, because it was so like crazy of this banishing ritual, of what she was saying.

Okay.

But she let us film it.

And basically Sam was filming and I was tasked with holding like another sort of shell thing with a bunch of like I don't even know what it was like an herb in there.

Was it the pine needles?

Yeah, pine needles.

That she gave you?

And also something else.

Yeah, I don't know.

It was like a whatever.

It was like a big herb or whatever that would help banish.

Yeah, Kathleen, I guess, or like save her.

Banish is a crazy word.

Get out of here, Kathleen.

Get out, Kathleen.

Do you need to help her?

But then she also, there was like a little rock like in the middle of it that she was like, and then at the end you're just going to stick.

I had like a flame and like kind of like a punk or whatever.

And she was like, you're going to stick that into the rock and it's going to like, make a little boom.

Yeah, oh my god, i would be freaking out.

That's how we ended.

She just described it as like a pop.

She's like don't, don't worry, it's not gonna be a lot crazy, but just like a little pop.

And so i was like okay, like sounds good, i'm just gonna light this herb and then pop it at the end.

And so we're there for like probably five minutes and she's doing like reading from a book and like Which was very intense, by the way

Screaming into the furnace.

And it was really intense.

Even when she blessed us, I was terrified.

Because she blessed us so that nothing would follow us home.

And even that was scary.

And I got holy water in my eye.

I was so thankful for it.

Your eye is protected.

I know.

We're good over here.

But yeah, without giving away what she said or whatever, for her sake, basically it was my turn to light this thing on fire oh no um and i was trying to do it and i couldn't get it to work i had like the punk and i was like and she was like come on and she was like ah like whoever we were talking to like like doesn't want you to do it i'm gonna do it so i was like okay she grabs it from me and then obviously first try she does it this thing did not it's not a pop dude this was a firework oh my god this was like a like it like went up in flames for like five seconds it knew you weren't prepared it was like colby is gonna freak out with this uh-huh she was gonna make me do that picture a flare like a like a road flare like that's how intense it was And you're like, ah, we're in a house.

I know we got this on camera.

We're still debating if we want to even include this in the main channel video or not.

So this could be something that's just exclusive for you guys.

We don't know.

I'm dying to see this.

I cannot wait.

I know the camera was pointing at me because Sam was filming.

Smoke just went everywhere.

And I look up and I'm like, uh.

The smoke detectors were right there.

Even when she had the incense going, I was like looking at them.

I was so nervous about that.

And so you guys can imagine what happened next.

They went off.

Every alarm in the entire house started burp.

And there was like fire.

It was blaring loud through all three levels of the house.

Did, like the caretakers come, nobody came.

Like the fire department didn't show up, like nobody came.

How'd you turn them off?

They just turned off on their own.

We ran upstairs and there was like a panel that said fire control or something like that.

So we were trying to click reset but it wouldn't work.

And so we went and we uh, we just ran around the basement, we found a fan and turned it on and then, like we're was just fanning the fire, oh my god, the smoke, the smoke.

And yeah eventually, like after like probably five, ten minutes,

It was, yeah, at least ten minutes.

That must have been so overwhelming too because they're so loud.

That was my fear with the incense.

Same.

Because I was looking up and I'm like, if those go off, I'm going to lose my fucking mind.

It would be overstimulating.

Just because I'm going to be so overstimulated.

It was bad.

And I'm going to be like, get me out of this face.

It was so loud.

I've never seen, and Ashley, if you're listening, sorry about this.

It's just so funny.

Like I've never seen like Ashley so like scared.

She looked at me and she was like, what do we do?

Yeah.

And I was just like.

She like sprinted upstairs.

We're like, okay, we're just don't panic.

Like sort of a thing.

Cause it was kind of like a, what do we do?

Yeah.

These bolts shut off.

We thought the fire department was going to.

Oh my God.

Was going to come.

Can you imagine?

So did you finish, did you get to finish the ritual?

Um, it was done.

Like that was the end.

So you finished with a bang.

Yeah.

Exactly.

She was like, I'm out of here.

That was a big deal.

She's like, I'm out of here and you guys should too.

Get out.

That's so funny.

That was it.

Like we did our own cleansing afterwards and left the house.

That was it.

That is bonkers.

I'm dying to see that.

I know.

It's just like if four in the morning and three people are running around frantically like what do we do?

That's so funny because, especially being in the basement, that would have sent me like i probably would have like climbed out the the barred windows.

I figured a way out.

I was so on edge in that basement, like that basement did not feel good.

It's creepy, especially after being touched in that basement.

If those alarms went off i think i would have died.

Yeah, i would have just went into cardiac.

It was like 4 30 am.

You guys saw the street.

It was kind of like a Yeah.

Semi-busier street.

Yeah.

In a small town.

And so we were, like, afraid that everybody around there could, like, hear.

Yeah.

It was loud.

Oh, my God.

But we're good.

We got cleansed as well and dipped out of there.

So hopefully Kathleen is good.

I know.

I hope so.

I'm interested to see like, if the caretakers like experience anything.

Yeah, like that makes it feel like yeah different, that makes it feel like she's yeah, still there.

Yeah, we'll see.

Because ashley's cleansing felt like it worked because i didn't feel like i was followed.

I thought i was gonna come in the house because it was 5 am.

At that point it was like pitch black in my house and it's like dead quiet and i'm like now i have to walk upstairs and like the pitch black and like I'm scared.

I wasn't even freaked out.

It was weird.

No, I was just going to say it's so funny because usually when we get home from things I like stay up a little bit longer and kind of like decompress.

And like I'm freaked out usually and like on edge.

I was not at all.

No.

In fact, you slept for 12 hours.

I literally slept.

You knocked.

I got home at 5.15.

I ate some spaghetti.

I went upstairs and I slept until 4 p.m.

Drew was like, are you dead?

I was like, no.

It's just the ghost.

I chugged some water and then got woken up an hour later by my youngest.

But you went back for a little bit.

I did.

John was like, go to sleep.

How did that change the way that you guys think about psychics?

I'm still a firm believer.

Okay oh yeah, there we go.

I think i still feel the same way, where it's like most of them yeah, are i think not right?

But i think we got, we got three goodies like i was like wow, how did we manage to grab three that like because they just they made so much sense, all their stories they just didn't feel put on at all.

Like when we, every single one after we left them or they left us, I was like holy shit.

Like that person was crazy.

Like when we left Ashley at the end, I was like, Ashley's like the coolest girl I've ever met.

I was like, she's such a badass.

A hundred percent.

I was like, damn.

Yeah, she's like opening her book and like reading in other languages.

And then the blessing, she's just like saying all these stuff.

I was like, you're the coolest person ever.

I was so impressed by her.

She's awesome.

And she's like accurate 100% of the time.

Like all the tarots that we've done in previous videos with her all come true.

I know.

I want her to like come do a tarot reading with us.

I know.

I'm like, Ashley, come back.

Yeah.

You should.

All of them though.

We were like all of them.

I loved them.

Yeah.

They were all great in their own ways.

Yeah.

Totally.

Yeah.

We were talking about this on the way over.

But in terms of psychics, would you guys, if you knew like, let's say like all these psychics are real, would you want to know your future?

I'd want to know some good things, but I wouldn't want to know like, when I'm going to die or anything like that.

What do you think your question would be if you got like one question about your life from like these psychics?

Because I don't think I would want to know my future.

No.

Nothing?

No.

I just want to... You just want to live?

I think it's playing God a little bit.

Yeah.

I'm Christian, so I'm like I just don't want to Like, I just want to kind of take it as it comes.

So I don't... I think if I know, I'm going to be crazy.

Like, I'm going to be, like, trying to prepare for it or trying to make something happen.

But, yeah.

I don't think I would want... I think I would just...

I'm trying to think of what the question would be.

I know one question is like two truths and a lie again.

If you don't want to know certain things, maybe asking what's one thing I could change about my future or something that I need to prepare for.

Or what's a happy thing that's going to happen in the future?

Just one good thing.

One good thing later in life I can look forward to or something.

Yeah.

That would be nice to know.

Yeah.

But I think a lot of real psychics and mediums, like it seems to be like a thing among them.

Like the more accurate they are.

They'll tell you.

If I'm going to tell you anything, I'm going to tell you the good and the bad.

Like you can't pick.

Like my husband's family, like one of his, like great great, great aunts, was like a well-known psychic.

Yeah.

And, like, helped in police investigations and stuff in Massachusetts.

And the way she was born.

Yeah.

There's this like old wives tale or like some lore with psychics, that if you're born with like a veil of like, almost like boo,

Ectoplasm.

You're born, like, veiled almost.

Like, there's a thing.

Like, there's a goop in your face.

That means you are, like, you have the gift.

And she was born that way.

And she would only tell you everything.

So she would say like, I won't tell you.

Like you can't cherry pick.

I won't tell you anything if you're not willing to hear everything.

It's good that she told people that up front before they like sat down and got into it.

And she's like, well, and you're going to die in three days.

So his grandmother was like, yeah, I don't want to know anything.

But like some people wanted to hear things and the things came true, it's kind of like a mental fuck.

Yeah, it's like i just don't want to know, like i'd rather just live my life.

That's the thing i just want to.

It's gonna happen anyway.

You know exactly.

Yeah, so might as well not like worry about it.

Yeah, it's hard to choose if you would want to know or not.

Yeah, i don't.

I feel like if you had to know everything versus nothing, definitely no no yeah yeah yeah, but i feel like if i cherry pick a question like that would be interesting.

I agree yeah, for sure.

Yeah,

If I could cherry pick, I would do that question.

Like, what's one really great thing that's going to happen?

Does Ashley, she tells you the good and the bad, or yeah uh yeah yeah um, we've got some tarot readings that are good and bad yeah, yeah.

Yeah, i'm not going like too personally in in this, but when i met you guys, i had cancer.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, i had cancer and so, like my i don't obviously i'm not like expecting us to remember this, but my face was really swollen.

I was like dealing with like a lot of like acne skin issues, and i i've never like dealt with that in my entire life, and so something was wrong, like my body was reacting And I had no idea what was going on.

And the month that I got diagnosed, which was in January of 2023, Ashley came over for the first time, did a tarot card reading and was just like this looks really bad.

Like you're about to go through like one of the scariest moments of your life.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

I knew that you had gone through that, but I didn't realize it was like when we met you.

That's crazy.

She said that before.

Two weeks before.

Said that was going to happen.

Two weeks before.

Yeah.

Holy shit.

And the next six months was like a horrible, like scary experience.

But yeah, for both of us.

What was wild is she called it for six months.

She said, it'll be about the next half a year.

Wow.

Until you're better.

And you were... Cancer free.

Cancer free halfway through 2023.

Yeah, like June.

Wow.

I'm like announced in July, but like May, June-ish, I was cancer free.

And so yeah, that's why personally, i'm like i'd rather not know.

You know what i mean.

Yeah, because how did you feel hearing that before realizing you were sick?

I sorry ashley, i didn't know if i uh believed it.

Yeah i, like you know, i was like okay, whatever that could be like cool for, like the youtube video or whatever, and then, like my life started unfolding literally two weeks later, yeah and um yeah, i was like well this, or at least like she is real, um and like, ever since then i was like okay, i'll do tarot card readings and stuff for videos and like to talk about like ghost hunting and stuff like that, but not for personal stuff.

I don't like doing it personal.

I don't believe that's a lot to take in, especially when it comes true.

It's like okay yeah, i don't want to know, i'll just cross that bridge when i got there.

I'm good on that.

How do you feel, sam?

Are you like doing them?

Only doing tarot only for videos, or will you do it personally too?

I've never gotten any psychic reading or anything like that outside of the video thing, but I'm okay with doing it in videos.

I mean when we did our series for our school where we stayed a whole week at our school, we actually had Ashley come out and read tarot about the school and our process of opening that for ghost investigations.

And what was crazy is everything the good and the bad.

Uh was correct as well with that, and even down to weird things like business licenses and things.

Yeah, she was really discussing like how that process was going to work and it played out exactly how she expected it and i was like what?

Like how do you know these things?

It's really, really wild.

Yeah, She was saying specifically.

She was like there's a principal entity here which we had already known and investigated and stuff like that.

And told us exactly, yeah, he's not evil.

He's not a bad guy, but he's very strict and cares a lot about his school.

And so when you guys take over, you guys are going to have some issues with licensing and the city around it.

And we did.

On the back end, everything is great now.

But she predicted that.

And we didn't even know that was going to happen until like two months later.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Crazy.

Well, and one thing that you'll see too, that we didn't even mention, was we had in the beginning of the SK Pierce investigation we had asked for a word.

Oh, we didn't even touch on that.

Yeah.

And Ashley, especially, the word was rib.

Yes.

We just did like a random word generator too.

It's not even like it was planned beforehand.

And we asked her, specifically, is there like a word that the spirits are telling you?

And she just asked for how many letters.

Yeah.

It was three letters, obviously.

And how many three-letter words are there?

Yeah, a billion.

A billion.

Yeah.

And she immediately starts doing the tarot cards and she throws one down and says R And I was like what are the odds of that?

And then in the middle she was saying I And we were all like.

I was like is she about to say rib right now?

I think I lost my shit.

And I think she was unsure of the last one, but I was like, I feel like you know it.

I think she did.

I feel like you know it, but something's trying to scramble you or something.

Like rig or something like that, but not rib.

What are the odds?

How?

That she got R and I. Yeah.

Out of all.

It's insane.

Yeah.

Like that blew my mind.

Even just the R would have blown my mind.

Literally.

When she went to the I, I was like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

Even Patty, though when she walked in she grabbed her stomach and she started talking about her belly.

I was waiting.

I know.

And I was like, you're about to say rib.

I was like looking at you guys like.

Yeah.

As soon as she like got that, I was like what part of your body?

Because she was like right, I don't know, like right here, I was like really crazy.

Yeah, that blew my mind.

We're still also just full disclosure, like debating whether we are going to put that in our channel or not, so that could be an exclusive.

But yeah, it is really really cool just for people to know that like we did that experiment.

Yeah, it was like a personal extra test because like, obviously the main goal was understanding the unsolved mystery, but it was really cool to like have this like isolated test with the spirits that had nothing to do with the house at all, what they could pick up.

And that Ashley thing like I was, I don't know when she was like RI.

I was literally shaking.

Oh yeah, oh god, what is happening?

What is happening like BB so close.

Yeah, it was really amazing actually yeah, Yeah.

It was incredible.

But you need to see it all because this does not even do it slightly justice.

No, there's plenty of things that are just on the video that we haven't touched on.

You can hear the sounds.

You can see the bones throwing.

Like, that's a whole experience.

See our facial reactions.

Oh, my God.

Kobe, like, just going into his teeth.

Oh, my God.

It was insane.

Yeah.

It was wild.

And then seeing the Estes method at the end is going to be so much fun.

I know.

You have to see that.

See the full conversation.

Yeah.

I'm excited to actually see it.

Yeah.

So definitely check it out on Sam and Colby's channel.

Thank you.

It'll be out right now as this is out.

Yeah.

Simultaneous release.

Same day.

Yeah.

Same day.

So go check it out.

Thanks for joining our experiment.

That was so good.

Thanks for having us.

So much fun.

So fun.

It was awesome.

Unlike anything we've ever done on the channel before, you guys got to experience it.

We're always down to ghost town.

Oh, yeah.

Let's do it more often.

Let us know if you want a part two.

All right.

Well, thank you guys so much for listening.

And we hope you keep listening.

And we hope you keep it weird.

But not swear that you don't go check out their video.

Peace.

Woo!

Hell yeah!

Thank you.

[灵媒实验：揭开 SK Pierce 豪宅未解谋杀案与超自然真相]-[December Bonus Episode: Secrets of the S.K. Pierce Mansion with Special Guests Sam & Colby]

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灵媒实验：揭开 SK Pierce 豪宅未解谋杀案与超自然真相

实验设计：盲测与独立验证

惊人的共识：红发女子与被掩盖的真相

拼图完成：Kathleen 的身份与 Frank 的罪行

终极对峙与驱逐仪式

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[灵媒实验：揭开 SK Pierce 豪宅未解谋杀案与超自然真相]-[December Bonus Episode: Secrets of the S.K. Pierce Mansion with Special Guests Sam & Colby]

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灵媒实验：揭开 SK Pierce 豪宅未解谋杀案与超自然真相

实验设计：盲测与独立验证

惊人的共识：红发女子与被掩盖的真相

拼图完成：Kathleen 的身份与 Frank 的罪行

终极对峙与驱逐仪式

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